OK.  It has been three whole weeks and I have received a lot of feedback.  Enough in fact that I am expanding to the top 20 at each weight.  So keep it up guys (and gals)!

103

Un Co Aaron Carr  10

Sen Elliott Martin  11

Tri Dan Smith  11

Mc Cen Daniel Bowling  10

JC Zach Salyers  8

FC Tommy Warren  9

Lar Co Joey Henderson  9

SO Brandon Whitehouse  9

Man Scott Deschamp  10

Cald Co Patrick Wimbleduff  9

JH Kirby Goodwine  9

Bou Co Adam Muoio  10

TC Anthony Merkel

Con Matt Brewer

Ryle Austin Palmer  9

Moore Jon Becerra

Cam Co Sean Hammons  8

CH Kyle Terry  8

Wood Co Ethan Miller

Way Co Aaron Dodd

112

FC Caleb Wood  12

Way Co Travis Sullivan  11

Eas Joaquin Luna  10

HC Cliff Cornett  12

Wood Co Shane Parks  11

Un Co Adam Carr  12

PD Jon Voth  11

Bull Cen James Badgett  11

NO Andre Zeppa  11

Lar Co Tritsten Hines  10

Whit Co Dalton Evans  11

Con TJ Bates  9

Sou Patrick Lile  11

Tri Erin McCauley  9

Sen Jeff Warra  10

Vall Mike Miller  12

SK Robbie Vaughn  10

Ryle Casey Chitwood  10

PRP Nick Reichmuth  11

Cen Hien Ton  12

119

Sen John Chui  12

Way Co Bryan Daniels  11

JH Josh Johnson  9

JC Cory Spencer  11

HC Matt Zarth  10

Mon Co Ross Carpenter-Fraser  11

CH Mason Bradbury  10

St X Nick Norwood  12

Cam Co Talon Deinlein  11

Scott Gabe Supe  11

FC Josh Burkett  11

PRP Corey Mills  11

Tri Jacob Barton  11

Ryle Andrew Isler  12

SO Steve Vaughn  10

Con Matt O'Bryan  11

Doss Alan Marksbury  11

Hend Co Bryce Alexander  9

NH JP Rivera  10

Wood Co Kyle White 11

125

PD Tyler Voth  12

Wood Co Coty Lewis  11

Un Co Isaac Ervin  10

Sen Dan Fuller  12

Way Co Coty Vinsant  11

Con Rashad Brown  12

Lar Co Darwin Perez  12

SC Matt Slone  9

Tri Grant Ohlman  9

Moore Steve Willbanks  9

Laf Nathan Speck

NO Antonio Zeppa  12

Per Co Cen Charles Turner  12

Bal Kendrick Jones  12

Scott Ethan Miller  12

CH Ross Engle  11

NH John King  12

Cam Co Caleb Schneider

SK Steve Norberry  10

JC Tyler Grimm  9

130

Old Co Ben Warner  12

NH Matt Eck  12

JC Jordan Freeman  10

JH Justin Pitcher  11

FC Derek Branch  11

Lar Co Lucas Carmen  11

Un Co Jake Wempe  11

Cam Co Korey Shotwell  9

Cald Co Sam Mitchell  10

Moore Crayton McCain  12

Nel Co Forest Rehrig  12

Fair Mike Seeders  12

PRP Steve Horak  11

Bull Cen Chris Pearson  12

Laf Ryan Traylor  12

SK Zach McGuffey  12

Sou Hunter Durden  12

Vall Corey Rader  11

HC Ted Murner  11

Har Co Hank Whalen  11

135

JH Cassidy Veach  12

Lar Co Matt Miller  11

Cam Co Kyle Griffith  11

Wood Co Steven Butler  12

St X Cory Kress  12

SO Cody Hall  12

Eas Paul Marks  12

Laf Alex Allman  12

Sen Zach Poulton  11

And Co Shane Carey  11

Old Co Trey Morlatt  11

Tri Trent Kelley  11

NO Tom Kusnir  12

Chr Co Jake Skinner  11

Un Co Carson Chambliss  12

SK Dusty Brown  10

Ft Knox Cameron Barrientos  11

Dan Brandon Lannum  9

PRP Don Phillips  11

Way Co Jordan Burnette  11

140

Ryle Bryan Peace  11

Scott Daniel Thueneman  12

Har Co Josh Ashbrook  11

SC Brandon Howard  12

Lar Co Evan Smith  12

Tri Ben Case  12

FC Kevin Stewart  12

Eas Blake Kraft  12

Way Co Kacy Kennedy  11

Wood Co Chad Scott  11

Bull Cen Justin Walls  10

Ohio Co Jonathan Miller  12

CH Steven Rivera  11

St X Cole Grant  12

PD Donnell Davis

Vall Ben Edwards  12

Des Alex Pike  11

Fr Co Stephen Thompson

SK Kevin Turner  12

Moore Justin Smith  12

145

Wood Co Harrison Courtney  10

Lar Co Patrick Banks  12

Un Co Mitch Ervin  11

FC Malcolm Jackson  12

Har Co Beau Sanders  11

Hol John Golsby  12

St X Chip Condon  12

NH Johnivon Oggs  12

Fr Co Ryan Tingle  11

Way Co Billy Floyd  9

Con Jake Lee  9

Jeff Phillip White

SC Eric Musick  12

TC Jamal Mohammed  12

Eas Mikal McNealy  11

JC Travis Scott  10

Sou Zach Durden  12

Ryle Will Gilliland  11

Moore Justin Johnston  12

JH Trint Webb  11

152

Lar Co Scott Wheeler  12

Mc Cen Randall Stevens  12

FC Ben Barger  11

And Co Sammy Isaacs  11

Tri Brad Hitchings  9

Way Co Tim Winchester  11

Wood Co Blake Sheehan  11

Bull Cen Jeremiah Walls  10

Har Co Corey Ward  12

Ohio Co Josh Ringkor  12

Hend Co Michael Helsley  10

Chr Co Cory Armstrong  11

Sen Beau Gadegaard  12

Ft Camp Rob Caracillo  12

Con Ryan Dillon  11

PD Nick Quigley  12

Des Kevin Snyder

JC Brady Hamilton

Doss Deshon Batts  12

NH Jerry Ledford  12

160

FC John Wolsiefer  11

SK Josh Cooper  12

Lar Co Bryant Barnhill  12

NH Ty Wolf  11

DH Brad Denham  12

CH Joe Collin  12

Wood Co Justin Mays  12

Old Co Wes Combs  12

PD Josh Drake  11

SC Ricky Burgess  12

Cen John Thomas  11

Tri Josh Lewis  9

Bull Cen Thomas Salter  12

Mc Cen Randy Vanover  12

JH Chris Pitcher  10

Bal Howard Brim  11

Des Robbie Spann

JC Thomas Hardwick  12

Sen Lofton Wright  9

PRP Kevin Turner  11

171

Eas Ben Rupp  12

Ryle Mason Reid  11

NH Matt Baker  12

Tri John Florence  12

HC Zack Guiler  12

SC Adam Dials  11

PD Sheridan Likoy  12

Whit Co Jaron Singley  12

Cam Co Tom Brownfield  11

Mc Cen Ryan Harlow  9

Un Co Dionte Wright  11

SO Cody Lasseigne  11

SK Ryan Vaughn  11

Har Co Bobby Barkley  11

Moore James Schneider  11

FC Kurt Waller  11

KDB Tommy Harmon  12

TC Dan Griggs

CH Richie Enright  12

Ft Knox Sean Garcia  11

189

Wood Co Will Starks  12

NH Mark Jones  11

Laf Matt Green  11

PD Doug Winter  12

Lar Co Jake Shipp  12

SC Ryan Kelly  10

CH Terry Turner  12

DH Steve Benson  11

Vall Joe Raleigh  12

SO Ryan Houchens  10

Mc Cen Steven Watson  12

Ohio Co Jarrod Aull  12

Cald Co Curt Martin  12

SK Michael Haught  12

FC Kyle Hardin  11

Scott Gary Robbins  11

Dan Evan Hester  10

Chr Co Mark Payne  10

JC Ryan Kestner  11

Des John French  11

215

Mc Cen Jacob Watson  12

FC Deon Chaney  11

Tri Jordan Whiting  10

Sen Jordan Dockery  12

Lar Co Joe Embree  12

SC Justin Chaffin  11

Doss Derek Nickel  11

PD Hunter Eade  12

SO Cameron Hartman  11

Ft Camp Zach Rinestine  11

Ryle Steve Bodenbender  12

JH Jesse Kerrison  12

Law Co Jason Delong  12

Chr Co Donnie Thomas  11

Per Co Cen Travis Pennington  12

Bal Naveed Safi  11

AB Andrew Dillon  12

Cen R. Wesley

Way Co Tyler Pace  9

Har Co Seth Hall  12

285

Wood Co Matt Byrd  12

Old Co Josh Young  12

Ohio Co Adam Burdin  12

Scott Adam Patterson  12

Mc Cen Chris Espinoza  12

Fair Robby Brown  12

Cam Co Billy Fuller  11

Vall Will Smith  11

New Devon Boxx  11

Ft Knox Anthony Bailey  11

NH Matt Ballinger  12

Laf Evan Bullock

Way Co Brandon Bell  9

Har Co Austin Murdoch  12

TC Nathan Gray  10

Des John Wise  12

PD Jeff Faulkner  12

SK Tony Turner  11

St X Zach Purol  12

Doss Derrick Lawson

Team

1 Larue County

2 Woodford County

3 Fern Creek

4 Trinity (Louisville)

5 North Hardin

6 McCreary Central

7 Union County

8 Seneca

9 Wayne County

10 Paul Dunbar

11 John Hardin

12 Sheldon Clark

13 Eastern

14 Ryle

15 Oldham County

16 Johnson Central

17 Campbell County

18 Harrison County

19 Scott

20 Central Hardin

21 Henry Clay

22 Simon Kenton

23 South Oldham

24 Lafayette

25 St. Xavier

26 Ohio County

27 Bullitt Central

28 Conner

29 Dixie Heights

30 Anderson County

rankings are great alot fo changes i would put derrick corder in there around 9th at 125 and still think jackson will win it at 140 but all in all great set

the 152 from christian county has only lost to ben barger by one every time they wrestle i think he should be either 4th or 5th

The finals should be crazy this year

103 Martin over Carr

112 Sullivan over Wood

119 Daniels over Chui

125 Voth vs lewis good one

130 Warner over Eck

135 Veach over Peace

140 Jackson over ashbrook

145 Courtney over Banks

152 Wheeler vs Stevens

160 Wolsifer vs Cooper

171 Rupp vs Ried

189 Green vs Starks ( GREEN beats Starks at regions but not state)

215 Watson vs Chaney

HWT Byrd vs Young or Espinoza

Great matches could be alot of upsets though in my opion

how can u put daniels over chiu after chiu nearly majored him at state, and has improved to where he is twice as good as he was last year, and i cant see veach coming close to touching peace, he has taken a year off, and peace is becoming a monster, i think he might even become as good as ruschell

103 Martin over Carr

112 Sullivan over Wood

119 Chui over daniels

125 lewis vs. fuller

130 Warner over Eck

135 howard over peace

140 thueneman over ashbrook

145 Courtney over Banks

152 Wheeler vs Stevens

160 Wolsifer vs Cooper

171 Rupp vs Ried

189 starks over jones

215 chaney over watson

HWT Byrd over Young

I dunno about all this rankin stuff...but why are kids that placed at a weight last year in a different weight this year....like anderson Shane Carey at 135 is ranked 12th and he placed 8th at 130 last year and is even smaller this year,,, and me i am weighing 143 but am ranked at 152...personally i think this is some b.s.

And give anderson some respect i mean we arent top 15 but for the last 4 years we have placed 19th or 20th....and are team is more solid then its ever been with our new coach and what not

Well you pretty much answered why you arent top 15, 19th or 20th the past 4 years.............You all have yet to place top 15. You have to earn respect in wrestling, its never just given to u.

how can u put daniels over chiu after chiu nearly majored him at state, and has improved to where he is twice as good as he was last year, and i cant see veach coming close to touching peace, he has taken a year off, and peace is becoming a monster, i think he might even become as good as ruschell

103 Martin over Carr

112 Sullivan over Wood

119 Chui over daniels

125 lewis vs. fuller

130 Warner over Eck

135 howard over peace

140 thueneman over ashbrook

145 Courtney over Banks

152 Wheeler vs Stevens

160 Wolsifer vs Cooper

171 Rupp vs Ried

189 starks over jones

215 chaney over watson

HWT Byrd over Young

Did you actually look at the rankings before typing this response?  Chui is #1 at 119.  And I don't have Veach beating Peace.  Peace is #1 at 140.  I request that you please read the posts before making an uninformed response.

I dunno about all this rankin stuff...but why are kids that placed at a weight last year in a different weight this year....like anderson Shane Carey at 135 is ranked 12th and he placed 8th at 130 last year and is even smaller this year,,, and me i am weighing 143 but am ranked at 152...personally i think this is some b.s.

It is not bs.  I am making an educated guess where I think everyone will end up.  I'm sure I am way off on some of these guys.  But I think this is much better than just taking the returning state placers and putting them on a list.  Please go back and count again, Carey is ranked 10th at 135.  And if you can make a case for him being able to beat anyone ahead of him then I'm glad to hear it.  If he goes to 130 again then great as well.  Getting on this site and sharing information is how the rankings are improved and more accurate.

And give anderson some respect i mean we arent top 15 but for the last 4 years we have placed 19th or 20th....and are team is more solid then its ever been with our new coach and what not

Actually, your finishes the last 5 years have been #56 (2002), #37 (2003), #22 (2004). #18 (2005), #19 (2006).  Great improvement and a good top 20 finish last season!  But that guarantees nothing this year.  Plus, you lost 5 good seniors who accounted for about half of your wins at state and your highest placer.  Plus, your region will be tough this year.  With Larue and North Hardin having awesome teams and John Hardin being a possible top 10 team, state spots will be tough to come by and individual regional champs (and better draws at state) almost impossible to get.

Yea but i dont understand how you are going to state that some wrestlers are gonna stay at there weight from the previous year and leave some at the same weight...i should be ranked at 145 not 152...i believe honestly i should be 3rd or 4th at 145

Well you havent beat anybody good to prove that you should be up there so u might wanna do some "walkin" before you do the "talkin"

145

Wood Co Harrison Courtney  10

Lar Co Patrick Banks  12

Un Co Mitch Ervin  11

FC Malcolm Jackson  12

Har Co Beau Sanders  11

Hol John Golsby  12

St X Chip Condon  12

NH Johnivon Oggs  12

Fr Co Ryan Tingle  11

Way Co Billy Floyd  9

Con Jake Lee  9

Jeff Phillip White

SC Eric Musick  12

TC Jamal Mohammed  12

Eas Mikal McNealy  11

JC Travis Scott  10

Sou Zach Durden  12

Ryle Will Gilliland  11

Moore Justin Johnston  12

JH Trint Webb  11

Lets take a look at this. 

Courtney and Banks 1 and 2 (I don't think there is an argument here)

Ervin 3rd  (if not injured may have placed higher, but still higher than Isaacs

Jackson 4th (Many may think he needs to prove himself)

Saunders 5th (Placed at 140 last year)

Golsby 6th (I believe split with Saunders last year and only lost by a couple at the NKAC against Wilson last year)

I'm like Ranger, no offence but you need to prove you belong. (3rd ????)

issacs is good dont get me worng but i aint sure about 3rd at 145 that mgiht eb a problem for him i think he could place 6th or so but not 3rd he is good but not elite yet and he might be but not no harrison or banks i dont think. I like daniels to beat chui to he is good and is improvinghe is still a work in progress for coach upchurch and will be in the finals i belive also peace might end up bein as good as ruschell but not yet he aint

the rankings look good. if someone doesnt like where they are on the rankings then just prove them wrong when the resalite starts to fly,dont bash the rankings only shows your maturaty level. i am sure they will gladly change them IF you prove yourself.    BEST OF LUCK TO ALL

Did you actually look at the rankings before typing this response?  Chui is #1 at 119.  And I don't have Veach beating Peace.  Peace is #1 at 140.  I request that you please read the posts before making an uninformed response.

i was was talking about what overtimeking said above me, or can u not read

Yea but i dont understand how you are going to state that some wrestlers are gonna stay at there weight from the previous year and leave some at the same weight...i should be ranked at 145 not 152...i believe honestly i should be 3rd or 4th at 145

I am basing the weights on what I have seen over the summer and the feedback I have received from coaches, fans, parents, and wrestlers.  I haven't heard or seen any results or news of what you have done or been weighing this summer.  And typically high school kids grow from year to year.  So I assumed you would be moving up.  I know that's not always the case, but more times than not kids move up from year to year.

As far as 145 goes, we can't start talking until #4.

i was was talking about what overtimeking said above me, or can u not read

If you are referring to a particular comment then it is a good idea to use the quote function.  Otherwise, I assume you are referring to my initial post.

The rankings are all speculation of what Ranger sees, hears, and knows, there are changes I found out about at our school in the last three weeks I would not have believed. Sami -dude,,,  guy,  settle down, read all of the posts, not just the rankings post and you will understand where all of the ranks come from besides what happened last year, there were a lot of things going on in the off-season; football, cross-country, and lets not forget some tourneys and camps that exposed some weaker and stronger kids.

For a sideline I do not want to have bad karma

I am from Missouri, we wrestled Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, once we went to MI, I wish everybody here knows that 25 years ago, we (KY, there was really stereo typical going on) were not on the map, now because of the Coopers, WC, and many others, I apologize for not mentioning this part that I know. KY is becoming a force in the sport. I lived in Missouri for twenty years, we wrestled in the practice on lofts of hay and we were happy to have a mat' (Outs -Hey sticking out - always stuck us with straw if you landed in the hole.  Moral of this story is I like the technology, some great wrestling people, Ranger takes the time,,,good time, keep it as professional as ya can, we will see how it all works out as it changes after each week of the great matches we will witness!

140

Ryle   Bryan Peace  11

Scott   Daniel Thueneman  12

Har Co   Josh Ashbrook  11

SC   Brandon Howard  12

Lar Co   Evan Smith  12

Tri   Ben Case  12

FC   Kevin Stewart  12

Eas   Blake Kraft  12

Way Co   Kacy Kennedy  11

Wood Co   Chad Scott  11

Bull Cen   Justin Walls  10

Ohio Co   Jonathan Miller  12

CH   Steven Rivera  11

St X   Cole Grant  12

PD   Donnell Davis

Vall   Ben Edwards  12

Des   Alex Pike  11

Fr Co   Stephen Thompson

SK   Kevin Turner  12

Moore   Justin Smith  12

There is a BIG mistake here where it says DeSales Alex Pike.....He is not the Varsity 140lb. at DeSales. He was the JV when I was injured last season he took my place.  Alex Pike is the Varsity 130. He does fair well against DeSales real varsity 140lb. Hector Rosado.

I think K turner will move up the list, just because of his desire to win this year, I think his mental mistakes that allowed him to be put on his back will decrease, unless he slacks he slacks in his training, he will surprise some of the better known wrestlers, Sk always wrestles a tough schedule, it will be the same this year

140

Ryle   Bryan Peace  11

Scott   Daniel Thueneman  12

Har Co   Josh Ashbrook  11

SC   Brandon Howard  12

Lar Co   Evan Smith  12

Tri   Ben Case  12

FC   Kevin Stewart  12

Eas   Blake Kraft  12

Way Co   Kacy Kennedy  11

Wood Co   Chad Scott  11

Bull Cen   Justin Walls  10

Ohio Co   Jonathan Miller  12

CH   Steven Rivera  11

St X   Cole Grant  12

PD   Donnell Davis

Vall   Ben Edwards  12

Des   Alex Pike  11

Fr Co   Stephen Thompson

SK   Kevin Turner  12

Moore   Justin Smith  12

There is a BIG mistake here where it says DeSales Alex Pike.....He is not the Varsity 140lb. at DeSales. He was the JV when I was injured last season he took my place.  Alex Pike is the Varsity 130. He does fair well against DeSales real varsity 140lb. Hector Rosado.

As I have stated I don't hear from every wrestler and coach in the state.  All I know is that he qualified for state at 140 last season.  Thanks for clearing this up, but until you tell me these things I don't know about them.

I think K turner will move up the list, just because of his desire to win this year, I think his mental mistakes that allowed him to be put on his back will decrease, unless he slacks he slacks in his training, he will surprise some of the better known wrestlers, Sk always wrestles a tough schedule, it will be the same this year

I agree.  Those SK kids are always ready for business when we get to Frankfort.

I dunno about all this rankin stuff...but why are kids that placed at a weight last year in a different weight this year....like anderson Shane Carey at 135 is ranked 12th and he placed 8th at 130 last year and is even smaller this year,,, and me i am weighing 143 but am ranked at 152...personally i think this is some b.s.

Dont come on here makin posts like that.If you disagree with something have some respect.

Sammi, what have you done besides for placing 8th last year, to make you believe you deserve to be the top 4 in the state? And how do you think you earn the right to degrade everyone else ranked at 145 like that. Prove yourself down state. These rankings are great and fair, and im sure they are difficult to decide. So show some respect, I'd like to see you make some rankings.

As I have stated I don't hear from every wrestler and coach in the state.  All I know is that he qualified for state at 140 last season.  Thanks for clearing this up, but until you tell me these things I don't know about them.

Its all good...

2 kids i saw low on the ranking are Jarod Aull and Jonathan Niller i saw these to at camp and they looked pretty goood i thought and may suprise some people

i also saw jarrod aull at camp and i think he has potential but i don't see him placing this year

With Mark Jones going 215, I think this should be bumped to the top again.  where will he fall in the rankings at 215.  #1 - #2  I wouldn't put him any lower than that not to take any thing away Chaney but Jones will take him. imho

Jones might go 215 and do good he aint gonna be number one watson beat him 8 -0 at cmap this summer and chaney might be able to take him to i dont know but i dont see him going 215

I have a few questions on this possibility of Jones going 215.

1.  Is Jones a good Football player?

2.  If so, is this what is influencing him to go 215

3.  Can an kid jump from 171 to 215 and be that big of an impact.

remember 215 is in a class of its own.  It takes a combination of straight and ability to be at the top.

Grappler, let me be the first to stop this rumor. It's not going to happen. and to answer question # 1 - yes he is.

I was wondering how long it would take before you chimmed in.  :-D

I was wondering how long it would take before you chimmed in.  :-D

I couldn't hold back any longer.

You spoiled all my fun...it's all a game of what ifs right now anyway right.

So when will the new Kentuckywrestling.com season rankings come out again??Its been awhile...

So when will the new Kentuckywrestling.com season rankings come out again??Its been awhile...

I'm waiting on a little more feedback from the first weeks of practice.  Some teams are just getting started.

The best I heard are rumors, Johnny, Josh could be big, both can stay down @ 160 (or,171, I think an old guy said that first), I really think there are going to be some wild changes! This is what this sight is about - discussion! Keep it UP!

The best I heard are rumors, Johnny, Josh could be big, both can stay down @ 160 (or,171, I think an old guy said that first)

HEY :-o who you callin old young'en?  As you can see by my picture I'm not that old.  :-D :-D

HEY :-o who you callin old young'en?  As you can see by my picture I'm not that old.  :-D :-D

lol you look like ur 12 in that pic...everyone wrestles in speedos these days..gooooosh who dont know that??? :-D :-D :wink: :wink:

Honestly, it looks like he is grapplin with some really weird swimming trunks,,,, underwear,,,,,,,, uh weird drawers of some sort,, Where is Rollie Fingers anyway?      LOL. I am probably older than you, just slower, too!

y is cliff cornett even mentioned in 112??? he wrestled 119 last year!!!!

y is cliff cornett even mentioned in 112??? he wrestled 119 last year!!!!

I think he wrestled 119 because Zarth was at 112.  Now Zarth has grown and Cornett has maintained with the intent to drop to 112.  It wouldn't be the first time someone has dropped a weight from one year to the next.  Derek Sawyer from Eastern was a state champ at 215 in 2002 and dropped to 189 in 2003.  Unfortunately for him he was runner-up that year.

how come harrison is ranked so low. They have beaten alt of teams on the rankings that are above us.

how come harrison is ranked so low. They have beaten alt of teams on the rankings that are above us.

Just because you beat them last season doesn't have a lot to do with this season.  You don't have Kendall, Wasson, Ross, Doyle, or Aubrey in the lineup this season.

yeah ya got a point there. I think wasson may be coming back, but hank aint wrestlin.

yeah ya got a point there. I think wasson may be coming back, but hank aint wrestlin.

I don't know what Whalen's deal is, but there is a much, much better chance he gets on the mat than Wasson this season.

so when are the next rankings coming out?

so when are the next rankings coming out?

I know, I know.  It has been over a month.  It's killing me too.  Let's say tomorrow night.  I'm waiting on one last item and I'll be ready to go.

all right sounds good to me

ya it does sound cool it would be nice to see them with the changes weve been seeing!

Just because you beat them last season doesn't have a lot to do with this season.  You don't have Kendall, Wasson, Ross, Doyle, or Aubrey in the lineup this season.

what happened to wasson?