This thread will be used to give updates on all three teams competing in the Scholastic Duals this weekend. I will post updates as often as I can. Hopefully some others can keep tabs on everyone as well. Going to be a great weekend for Kentucky Wrestling!

Ky blue:

Irvin win

Scheffer pin

Logan erdman win

Duncan pin

Heidorf win

Vasquez pin

Phelps got pinned

Green lost

Cornett lost

Miozza lost

Smith pinned

Grazianni got pinned

Myers pinned

Brown got pinned

45-19 win for KY blue

Ky Mudcats lose to Indiana gorillas.

Klein lost

Hanson lost

Johnson lost

Bindner lost

Erdman won

West lost

Andreoni won

Ackley lost

Overman lost

Nevels lost

Belk lost

Daylen lost

Farris lost

Vinegar won

Faced a very tough Indiana Team. Looking to wrestle back hard against ohio Titans

Ky Mudcats win second dual of the day against Ohio Titans

Klein lost

Hanson won

Johnson won

Bindner won

West lost

Andreoni won

Hoffman won

Titans Forfeit

Titans Forfeit

Double forfeit

Daylen lost

Farris won

Vinegar lost

Two more duals to go for all teams today. Show all three Kentucky teams some love guys.

Ky Mudcats drop their last two duals to Illinois South and Indiana Renegade. Close matches with all of our guys fighting hard. Kentucky is representing very well as a whole. It is great to see so many guys from our state being introduced to these higher level tournaments. It is really great to see how they are improving and adapting to the competition. Really proud of all three teams that are here. I know all the guys are excited to go hard tomorrow in the last day of the tournament.

Looking over the results it appears that Kentucky Blue held its own in most matches.  Congratulations and thanks to the kids who went and got valuable national experience that will make them far better next year.

 

There is one name I should mention, and it's undoubtably the best returning wrestler in Kentucky, and that's ATM.  Frankly, it is unlikely that going to the Scholastic Duals was going to make ATM a "much improved" wrestler.  He is already one of the best in the nation at 220.  The fact that he sacrificed to make the trip and help Kentucky be competitive at that level is highly appreciated.

 

Tarzan - I for one thank you.  ATM did not have to go with the team, he could have done track or spring football.  Most of us in the wrestling community are proud of ATM and very appreciative of what he has done to represent the state at a national level.  Thank you, sir.

 

And for all of you who went, kept your weight in check, maintained your conditioning and competed against some of the best in the nation...thanks for representing Kentucky!!!

 

 

 

I agree about ATM. I think all the young men made a good showing. Hats off to the mudcats awsome job. Kinda partial to that team lots of over looked talent. Good job to all.

where can the results of all the duals be found?

Track wrestling

 

Can't get the link to work, name is

 

Some great wrestling some looked a bit rusty some a lot rusty it's off season no big deal KY should have a more organized assault on this tournament but they did a great job Heidorf Smith and ATM seemed to try and lead the best they could , proud of ATM undefeated there for 3 Yrs in a row beating state champs every time .Not happy with him not getting an ow when it was shared by two lower class men .A bit disappointing looking at who he has beaten there every yr .

Oh well congrats to the kY kids making top ten again .and much thanks to some lesser talked about wrestlers on blue who came through to make it happen.

Surprised no mentioned all the illegal slams saw one kY kid get slammed twice once a belly to back straight over on His head and later getting slammed again -no call made - saw and Indiana kid get slammed and his coaches argue the point and get the call but I'm sure if a kY coach would have argued so vigorously he would have been ejected .

Who knows ?? With 3 kY teams it was hard to see very many of their matches with all mats going simultaneously , a nice venue

KENTUCKY BLUE RESULTS

 

106 Results
Saul Ervin of Kentucky Blue went 2-5
106 - Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) over Ulises Jacobo (Illinois Inferno) Dec 4-2
106 - Justin Stickley (Ohio Mafia) over Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) Dec 3-2
106 - Colton Cummings (Indiana Gorillas) over Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) Dec 1-0
106 - BREYDEN BAILEY (Indiana Blue) over Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) Dec 4-3
106 - Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) over Jack Tolin (Indiana Renegades Gold) Dec 5-2
106 - tucker sjomeling (Minnesota Elite Maroon) over Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) Fall 2:27
106 - kyle ratham (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Saul Ervin (Kentucky Blue) Dec 10-4


113 Results
Bryce Sheffer of Kentucky Blue went 5-2
113 - Alex Madrigal (Illinois Inferno) over Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) Maj 10-2
113 - Mitch Moore (Ohio Mafia) over Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) Dec 11-5
113 - Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) over Jeremiah Retiz (Indiana Gorillas) Dec 7-1
113 - Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) over Austin Holmes (Indiana Blue) Maj 18-7
113 - Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) over Austen Laughlin (Indiana Renegades Gold) Fall 2:47
113 - Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) over noah buck (Minnesota Elite Maroon) Fall 2:12
113 - Bryce Sheffer (Kentucky Blue) over wade sullivan (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) Dec 9-4


120 Results
Logan Erdman of Kentucky Blue went 5-2
120 - Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) over Jake Silzer (Illinois Inferno) Dec 7-2
120 - Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) over JD Stickley (Ohio Mafia) Fall 0:40
120 - Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) over Ben Cauffman (Indiana Gorillas) Dec 7-2
120 - GRIFFIN SCHERMER (Indiana Blue) over Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) Fall 4:49
120 - Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) over Jake Hartman (Indiana Renegades Gold) Dec 5-1
120 - Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) over riley white (Minnesota Elite Maroon) Fall 3:33
120 - mitchell mckee (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Logan Erdman (Kentucky Blue) TF 18-2


126 Results
Keegan Duncan of Kentucky Blue went 1-1
126 - Keegan Duncan (Kentucky Blue) over Chayce Young (Indiana Renegades Gold) Fall 2:42
126 - quinten berres (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Keegan Duncan (Kentucky Blue) Dec 3-2


132 Results
Hudson Heidorf of Kentucky Blue went 7-0
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over Juan Blanco (Illinois Inferno) Dec 5-4
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over Jake Gutierrez (Ohio Mafia) Fall 5:36
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over Zach Donaldson (Indiana Gorillas) Dec 5-3
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over DEVIN CHILDERS (Indiana Blue) Dec 7-5
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over Jay Franko (Indiana Renegades Gold) Dec 8-6
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
132 - Hudson Heidorf (Kentucky Blue) over tyson leon (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) Dec 9-3


138 Results
Angel Vasquez of Kentucky Blue went 2-5
138 - Jake Tucker (Illinois Inferno) over Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) Maj 16-2
138 - Brent Moore (Ohio Mafia) over Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) Maj 15-4
138 - Drew Hughes (Indiana Gorillas) over Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) TF 16-0
138 - JACOB COVACIU (Indiana Blue) over Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) Dec 5-2
138 - Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) over John Hunting (Indiana Renegades Gold) Fall 0:41
138 - Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) over matthew rustad (Minnesota Elite Maroon) Dec 2-1
138 - james pleski (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Angel Vasquez (Kentucky Blue) Dec 5-1


145 Results
Leland Phelps of Kentucky Blue went 0-7
145 - Jose Champagne (Illinois Inferno) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) Fall 0:51
145 - Cody Ohnmeiss (Ohio Mafia) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) Dec 6-3
145 - Bam Lawrence (Indiana Gorillas) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) Dec 7-0
145 - PARKER FRITZ (Indiana Blue) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) Dec 8-5
145 - Connor Armuth (Indiana Renegades Gold) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) Fall 5:23
145 - lucas jeske (Minnesota Elite Maroon) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) TF 17-2
145 - carson brolsma (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Leland Phelps (Kentucky Blue) TF 15-0


152 Results
Jon Green of Kentucky Blue went 0-7
152 - Jerry Heckathorn (Indiana Renegades Gold) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Dec 7-6
152 - nicholas green (Minnesota Elite Maroon) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Maj 13-4
152 - owen webster (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Dec 16-9
152 - Trace Carello (Illinois Inferno) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Dec 3-1
152 - Tyler Sowards (Ohio Mafia) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Dec 3-0
152 - Josh Garman (Indiana Gorillas) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Dec 7-2
152 - CJ DAMLER (Indiana Blue) over Jon Green (Kentucky Blue) Dec 5-3


160 Results
Casey Cornett of Kentucky Blue went 3-4
160 - Brian Krasowski (Illinois Inferno) over Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) Dec 6-4
160 - Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) over Michael Herbert (Ohio Mafia) Fall 4:00
160 - Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) over Bryce Baumgartner (Indiana Gorillas) Dec 4-2
160 - ISAIAH KEMPER (Indiana Blue) over Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) Dec 10-4
160 - Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) over Sawyer Hallas (Indiana Renegades Gold) Fall 4:43
160 - cory flaata (Minnesota Elite Maroon) over Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) Dec 6-3
160 - lucas westrich (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Casey Cornett (Kentucky Blue) Fall 1:15


170 Results
Lucas Miozza of Kentucky Blue went 1-6
170 - Mason DeLong (Illinois Inferno) over Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) Maj 15-3
170 - Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) over Jack Peura (Ohio Mafia) Fall 3:45
170 - Scottie Sopko (Indiana Gorillas) over Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) Maj 13-1
170 - DILLON JACKSON (Indiana Blue) over Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) Maj 18-6
170 - Hunter Mote (Indiana Renegades Gold) over Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) Maj 11-2
170 - garrett beaman (Minnesota Elite Maroon) over Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) Fall 2:24
170 - mark hall (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Lucas Miozza (Kentucky Blue) Fall 1:21


182 Results
Mikey Smith of Kentucky Blue went 4-3
182 - Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) over Jenner Hecox (Illinois Inferno) Fall 2:41
182 - Jack Harris (Ohio Mafia) over Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) Fall 1:53
182 - Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) over Jonathan Morales (Indiana Gorillas) Dec 2-0
182 - COREY HINKLE (Indiana Blue) over Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) Dec 7-4
182 - Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) over Daniel Wright (Indiana Renegades Gold) Fall 0:52
182 - Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
182 - bobby steveson (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Mikey Smith (Kentucky Blue) Maj 19-6


195 Results
Brett Graziani of Kentucky Blue went 2-5
195 - Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
195 - Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) over Nick Mcdaniel (Ohio Mafia) Dec 8-5
195 - Bo Davis (Indiana Gorillas) over Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) Fall 3:37
195 - KOBE WOODS (Indiana Blue) over Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) Fall 0:48
195 - Wesley Beck (Indiana Renegades Gold) over Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) Fall 2:39
195 - jackson dunnell (Minnesota Elite Maroon) over Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) Maj 13-2
195 - gable steveson (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Brett Graziani (Kentucky Blue) TF 17-1


220 Results
Austin Myers of Kentucky Blue went 7-0
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over Josh King (Illinois Inferno) Fall 0:47
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over Aaron Leciejewski (Ohio Mafia) Fall 0:18
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over Gunnar Larson (Indiana Gorillas) Maj 23-10
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over Courvoisier Morrow (Indiana Blue) Dec 5-0
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over Evan Ellis (Indiana Renegades Gold) Fall 1:36
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over adam evenson (Minnesota Elite Maroon) Fall 0:18
220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over justin cumberbatch (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) Dec 9-6


285 Results
Raynel Brown of Kentucky Blue went 2-5
285 - Matt Allen (Illinois Inferno) over Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) Fall 2:57
285 - Deaken McCoy (Ohio Mafia) over Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) SV-1 6-4
285 - Blake Davis (Indiana Gorillas) over Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) TB-1 4-2
285 - Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
285 - Brian Shaw (Indiana Renegades Gold) over Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) Fall 3:21
285 - Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) over alex nelson (Minnesota Elite Maroon) Dec 4-3
285 - kevin kneisl (Minnesota Elite Golden Gophers) over Raynel Brown (Kentucky Blue) Fall 1:33

Some great wrestling some looked a bit rusty some a lot rusty it's off season no big deal KY should have a more organized assault on this tournament but they did a great job Heidorf Smith and ATM seemed to try and lead the best they could , proud of ATM undefeated there for 3 Yrs in a row beating state champs every time .Not happy with him not getting an ow when it was shared by two lower class men .A bit disappointing looking at who he has beaten there every yr .

Oh well congrats to the kY kids making top ten again .and much thanks to some lesser talked about wrestlers on blue who came through to make it happen.

I think what hurt ATM for the OW award is this match result "220 - Austin Myers (Kentucky Blue) over Courvoisier Morrow (Indiana Blue) Dec 5-0"  Morrow did not make it as far as Indiana's state tournament this year. 

I don't think a 5 to 0 stomping of a staller can hurt anyone ATM beat a Minnesota champ who beat a 2x Colorado champ in this tourney

You don't have to pin everyone in 18 sec just a couple , as I said a 220 going undefeated at nat duals 3 Yrs running to me was easily as impressive as the two who won Co ows but as is with ows they use whatever criteria they want for that particular yr

.wrestling dad's comment meant more to ATM than the ow .

He will get his at the state tournament using whatever criteria anyone would like to use he could have won three there already and no one could have argued it same as scholastic duals

And it looked to me as if ATM had the pin over the Indiana 9th ranked Morrow , good kid good match nevertheless

A better run at nat duals than any 220 from any other state that competed there over the last 3 Yrs got to see a different side of ATM he tried to be a leader when it was needed of him deserving of much more respect than he has been shown in some states .

I did not say it hurt ATM to just  beat Morrow 5-0. I did say that may have been a result that hurt his chances for OW. The guy or guys that pick the OW for the tournament may know that Morrow did not advance to the Indiana High School state tournament. Compare that to Chad Red (one of the guys who was named co outstanding wrestler) Red had a 5-1 decision over Mitchell McKee. McKee won JR Folkstyle Nationals this year at 126lbs. He also won GR Nationals at Fargo last summer and was 2nd in freestyle. Red also beat Townsell from Illinois who was a Fargo champion last summer. Red also pinned two other state champions in the first period. ATM did have a great tournament. Based on the level of competition I think Red had the edge for OW.

Yes and had anyone else raised the fuss red did after his kid got taken down to his back they would have been ejected without hesitation and no points would have been changed like the match I saw red wrestle , on the other hand I saw the most blatant slam on a kY kid I have ever seen go without any call by the ref , had a kY coach / dad ran on the Mat yelled at the ref as red did they would have been escorted out .

POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST EVERy kY FAN THERE SAW IT .

AND WHAT A LIGHTER WEIGHT DOES IN ONE TOURNAMENT MAY BE BEyond NORMAL WHAT A 220 does 3 Yrs in a row in my opinion was extraordinary nationally ranked kids and state champs were beaten by ATM every yr but as I said they can use whatever criteria they want and change it up the next yr .doesn't matter I doubt they see a 220 go through that tournament again like ATM did the past 3 Yrs and the first two he did it in the gold pool the Virginia kid who also beat the Minnesota champ as Austin did , was pinned in seconds last yr by ATM ,

As for all the gr fr accolades this is folkstyle but fr gr season is upon us

ATM will be shooting for a double AA another first for his state I'm sure he hits some roadblocks being in KY without any fr gr training in Yrs but I think he will surprise . Hopefully we see a rematch between ATM and the sole person who has beaten him in HS I will take ATM in a landslide in greco and I think fr would be a great match between them good luck turning ATM .

A nice tourney for red and hall is hall ,

But I still thought the body of work at the tourney would get him some honors , regardless as I said I doubt anyone his size matches his record there against the. caliber of kids he wrestled .

A great tournament that's over now and it's on to the next one !

And Heidorf was straight up slammed right on his head with nothing done about it that tournament is a major accident waiting to happen .glad Heidorf came back and won ,

He and ATM both going 7-0 kY still had some studs floating around even with some names who will get a lot of hype when the season rolls around MIA at this tourney which has been a highlight for the state the last couple Yrs ,

And yes ATM playing spring ball trying track and headed to Fargo could have said I'm setting this one out particularly after what was not his best showing a couple weeks ago but as he did his fresh yr he went where he was needed and wouldn't have missed it for the world .

I did not see that match with Red that you are talking about. Got anymore details?

Let the onslaught commence ,

Seriously were you there , red got straight up 5 point thrown and his coach/ went looney tunes I'm not going to comment because I k ow there were others who saw it and even more KY fans who saw our guys get slammed worse without a word from the refs , UNBELIEVABLE .As a matter of fact I know our coaches had it taped .would love for everyone to see it !!!

no. that is why i asked

He's baaack. Complaining and putting down others accomplishments as usual. Great job by all wrestlers in this tournament.

Seriously were you there , red got straight up 5 point thrown and his coach/ went looney tunes I'm not going to comment because I k ow there were others who saw it and even more KY fans who saw our guys get slammed worse without a word from the refs , UNBELIEVABLE .As a matter of fact I know our coaches had it taped .would love for everyone to see it !!!

All the matches are on ihigh , mat 1 about the 2:48 into the day you can watch it

8224 , I asked if you were there because your comments about the tournament implied you were and anyone who was could not have missed the red match unless they were on the far end of the arena .

And no one was put down saying red was beyond good and Hall was Hall is far from a put down , rather some nice props .

As for the comment about some of the better kids who will get a lot of hype come regular season being MIA in this a tournament that I have seen earn coaches awards at the state tournament and athletes much accolades giving it great bearing in the state as one of the few major national tourneys KY attends in force , I would stick by it , I think some of the other heavy hitters were missed and I am not alone in this kind g it was a shame they were not there .

Anyone who goes to a tourney and sees who I tracts and how they interact with the wrestlers knows who is who and what type of person they are ,

Not going to comment on every instigators pot stirring post , the black sheep can bahh all they want the Lions will simply shut them up usual, by the jugular.

I hope the pride can discern the difference center between a lion trying to be the king of the jungle and a Hyena trying to skulk around and weaken the pride by knocking down the Alpha .

Enough on the subject . I assume win or lose this Yrs Fargo competitors will earn the state at least a glance be it from controversy those wishing for losses or wins or simply from the College coaches who will be interested in seeing how someone who will be a four time champ will do in styles no one has seen him wrestle I'm Yrs .

IN other words the Lion will bring meat to the pride like no other in the up coming year there will be more hyenas and pot stirring Carrion eating scavengers than ever before , the Lion will not change his course regardless of any win or loss those outside his pride wish to exploit in order to see his pride dissolved and him dethroned .

I HAVE TALKed tHE LION INTO STALKING PREY IN Fargo while at the same time he has chosen to pursue his other endeavors at home as well . A bigger task than anyone in this sport in this state has ever attempted I would say , and I still say he gets it done he is searching for the elusive double I think he crushes it beneath his mighty Claws the Lion (Attacks The Mat) ATM .

WOW!!!

You mean bahh bahh lol

I was there and will tell you that Austin looked great. One thing that hurt his chances for MOW is that the Blue team fell to the Silver Pool. This is no fault of Austin but I do think that he was overlooked for that reason. There were several slams and I went to talk to the official about Hudson's. I agree that had I thrown a fit, I would have been asked to leave. Overall it was a great tournament. Team KY lost a lot of strong talent that are seniors but those that went wrestled tough and represented KY well.

I think kY blue being in the silver could have had a bit to do with it but that's not really a wrestlers fault . Had union not won state Brock would still be ow in KY for winning every yr , thought ATM might get that same nod at NHSCA ,

I was there and Heidorf got slammed right on his head and face I'm sure some people heard me complain lol but yes had our coaches went ape $ h/t as the Indiana coach did our coach would have been ejected and our team probably had points taken off , saw tape of another kY wrestler who was put out with a concussion get slammed twice , wth it was like let's wrestle the kY kids dirty because no ref will call it , I am betting had ATM slammed anyone he would have been tossed !!!!

No disgrace hitting silver pool The kY kids gave it their all and still did well , I do think that the teams of the past two Yrs had more top kids on the kY team , no matter those who came did their state proud .

Had a ton of fun hanging out with our wrestlers and talking to some from other states , union must feed Raynel before his matches he has a Hannibal lechter issue lol

.Funny watching someone give him a bit of an overzealous crossface then cry over getting bit and the ref actually give the kid a point that was rich our guy gets hit in the face and the other guy gets a point hahah

I thought it was great that KY Mudcats beat KY Red.  I still don't understand why they had kids on Red that did not place, and also had to forfeit 160 and 182.  A example is Mudcats had Andrew Auckley that placed 3rd and Ky Red had kid from Bourbon county that placed 4th.  Also at 132 they had fern creek kid splitting time with a CC kid that did not place.  This is only 2 examples, there were may more.  Only reason I bring this up is because I am alittle salty because my boy wrestled with the Mudcats at 170 and 182 and weighed in at 160.  He went 3 and 3 but it would of been nice for him to wrestle his weight class.  So I am happy the Ky Mudcats were the 2nd best team from Ky there.

I thought it was great that KY Mudcats beat KY Red. I still don't understand why they had kids on Red that did not place, and also had to forfeit 160 and 182. A example is Mudcats had Andrew Auckley that placed 3rd and Ky Red had kid from Bourbon county that placed 4th. Also at 132 they had fern creek kid splitting time with a CC kid that did not place. This is only 2 examples, there were may more. Only reason I bring this up is because I am alittle salty because my boy wrestled with the Mudcats at 170 and 182 and weighed in at 160. He went 3 and 3 but it would of been nice for him to wrestle his weight class. So I am happy the Ky Mudcats were the 2nd best team from Ky there.

I believe that some of the kids from the mud cats were not on the red or blue team because the coaches from their teams were not members of the coaching association. But it's great that they still got an opportunity to go.

I was told it had something to do with teams not paying dues not really sure not going there because it's not my thing nor do I know for sure because one team mentioned was Ryle and Logan was on blue so who knows either way there is two ways of looking at it more KY kids got to wrestle there than ever before although the teams placed lower .actually might be a better trade to give some kids some memories and experience in the sport , most states have two teams sort of an a and b with the confusion this yr the a and b were mixed up and the mud cats got to put together a strong team . Perhaps if kY puts together 3 or more teams again they should all have a scrimmage as well as a team kY practice !!!! That would b cool

As a matter of fact they could scrimmage an all sr team that would be very cool 4 kY all star teams scrimmage g before nat duals .

I thought it was great that KY Mudcats beat KY Red. I still don't understand why they had kids on Red that did not place, and also had to forfeit 160 and 182. A example is Mudcats had Andrew Auckley that placed 3rd and Ky Red had kid from Bourbon county that placed 4th. Also at 132 they had fern creek kid splitting time with a CC kid that did not place. This is only 2 examples, there were may more. Only reason I bring this up is because I am alittle salty because my boy wrestled with the Mudcats at 170 and 182 and weighed in at 160. He went 3 and 3 but it would of been nice for him to wrestle his weight class. So I am happy the Ky Mudcats were the 2nd best team from Ky there.

I was wondering how the invites were sent? Did you have to sign up for the team or was it hand picked? My son placed at state and would have been interested in being on the team.

Hopefully he places next year and is able to make the trip.

Great job to all the kids that competed.

Seems like you would want to send your best, wretling all together. As a competitive coach, I would not turn anyone away, but I sure as heck would make sure that my BEST were all on one team. I love as a coach, that wrestling affords you this opportunity. No politics, no favoritism, etc. Just the best! Not sure how this is put together, but like I say, I compete to WIN. Period. Multiple teams are great, but a competitive team is the one that you want to hang your hat on. If you go to an " all star" event, make sure your stars shine. Just sayin.

Yes that's how it should be I was told some teams didn't pay dues or some such thing either way not sure a couple more studs would have made a difference as far as getting into the gold pool Blue had to face Minnesota and they were tough think they won and I think we only won two matches against them Heidorf and Austin , still I agree but I also heard some kids simply didn't come football vacations whatever proud of those who did show up even prouder of those who did every yr even when asked to wrestle up ,

Great memories there goof luck to all the kids in the future , hope to see my baby cub there one day . Probably somewhere between 145 and hvy lol

Ky blue won 3 against minnasota

That's good, I can't remember everything but even with another win and a few more top guy I still think kY blue would have ended up in r he silver because of the draw.

Who else won against Minn

I will be glad to explain hos members were chosen. First and foremost, there were no politics or favoritism involved. We went down the list of state placers and removed the seniors. We than sent invites to the coaches of the wrestlers that finished highest. One of the requirements to be part of Blue or Red was that the Coach needed to be a member of the Coaches Association. The reason for this is because the KYWCA funded the team by paying the entry fee, etc. That being said, the deadline to join the Coaches Association ended in January. Yet we allowed to coaches to join prior to the duals so that the kids could be on the team. If we did not hear back from a coach or kid, we began filling in holes the best we could. I personally had to reach out to several teams to get holes filled. We also had a hole on the Red team that was filled but on the Saturday prior, that wrestler backed out to wrestle for the Mudcats. How is that in our control?

 

Bottom line, we need coaches to support the growth of KY Wrestling and that starts by supporting the Coaches Association. The coaches association has come along way since the days of the past by offering several benefits for coaches who join. We also need coaches to help us with this by getting info out to the kids on their team.

Creating a format for assembling the most competitive team would not be hard...the difficulty comes with getting commitments to participate from the upper level kids.

 

For Folkstyle, just go down the list of State Place Winners from our KHSAA Championships and offer invitations.  The highest placing kid in a weight class who commits is first team, the second highest placer is second team, etc. 

 

It is obvious we really need to grow participation in Freestyle and Greco, but we could do the same thing.  As participation in these styles grow, use the placers in a Kentucky State Freestyle and Greco Championship.

That is exactly how it was explained over the last few Yrs and it has always seemed that way , doesn't seem like politics at all

The teams of the past couple Yrs may have been a little tougher because more kids who could have went did not this yr and maybe some issues with the governing body as far as dues got in the way seems there is was a strong push to have the best team possible .

The teams were competitive blue was top ten and the others held their own and a lot of kY kids got to wrestle I think k it has been stated before why doesn't someone in charge of kY fr gr make a huge attempt to put together a team for Fargo from Team kY nat duals participants ??? They are already right there , I think there could be a decent freestyle squad put together not sure about AA's but certainly some kids who could win matches , Greco , who could say I know most of the top 182 are big throwers but most of them did not wrestle at nat duals Smith would probably be a better free styler

I was told by some kids that the fr gr state tourney only had a few kids in it last yr is there anyone who can give us some #

As far as a kY team beating another kY team at nat duals the only reason someone should be happy for seeing one team beat another is if their kid was on it or they coached the winning team , it's a national tournament not a state one I always thought of all the kY kids sort of on the same team and I'm sure most of the kids do as well I have watched our kids there the last few Yrs most kids on the A team Blue or whatever team always cheered for all the other kY kids there there was never an us vs them mentality nor is their a need for one !!

I agree that I observed all our KY Wrestlers supporting each other, cheering and watching each other when they could. That type of comraderie is what we need to help them all improve and grow KY wrestling to the next level. We met wrestlers and families that we only knew by name and it was great to get to know them, talk with them and cheer on our Ky wrestlers together!

That's good, I can't remember everything but even with another win and a few more top guy I still think kY blue would have ended up in r he silver because of the draw.

Who else won against Minn

Bryce sheffer

Good good he was very tough and had a tough weight class there but I guess they are all tough classes there , I think he is only a fresh or soph , correct , .

At the end of the day it is ALL about getting kids matches on a higher level.  I was incredibly impressed with the grit that the Kentucky representatives showed.  I saw kids adapt to the competition and get better throughout the tournament. I saw kids go 7-0! I saw kids create friendships with each other, which makes Kentucky stronger. These guys now have more reason to continue training because they see the benefits of coming together.  We created the Mudcats to get kids experience, not to be competitive or rivals with the other KY teams.  As far as I am concerned we went to that tournament as a united front, not separate competitors.  I believe that three teams should go every year, simply because Kentucky is gaining depth each year.  By bringing more wrestlers it allows us to continue in that positive trend rather than becoming complacent.  

 

 Everyone needs to support the coaches association, there is no excuse worthy of arguing.  By not supporting them it is setting Kentucky back in many ways.  I am grateful for people that have the best interest of Kentucky in mind, that is what the Coaches Association is for.  

Three teams is a great idea just hope their is a mutual effort to give KY it's best chance of placing as a state by everyone pushing for the best to go one one team .

Few significant things kept us from placing much higher. First and foremost our draw. In the same pool as Minnesota and they ended up winning it. Also, Hurst didnt make weight, Keegan Duncan got hurt as well as a few key guys that decided not to participate...namely Frankrone & Meiman. I looked as the results from last year's team to this year's team and a lot of these boys held their own comparatively speaking. Fausz won 4 last year. That tells you the level of competition. 6 wins and a forfeit for Heidorf. Logan came a hair from 6-1 if he doesn't step over that wizzer. Sheffer had some great wins and competed well ending 5-2. By the way...big respect for Saul ervin. He battled every match and fell just short in a few. Things could have been significantly different had these things not happened. I think team ky really steps up big next year and represents well.

Correction Heidorf no forfiet

Getting in the same opening pool as the eventual champs surely hurt not going to say some kids missing hhurt smith at 182 was just as good as any I do not think k he was as he was in parts of the reg season same for many .

All eyes should focus north west and towards Fargo now for any wrestling fans left in this part of the season .

I hear the sound of sheep on other threads that will soon be eclipsed by the roar of a Lion .

Correction Heidorf no forfiet

I could be wrong but I thought he wrestled the same kid both times on the 2 minnasota teams . I don't think the maroon had a 132 .

You are correct. Someone corrected me quickly and rightfully so. These boys deserve all the credit they can get for their accomplishments.

Good Heidorf beat him twice

 

 Everyone needs to support the coaches association, there is no excuse worthy of arguing.  By not supporting them it is setting Kentucky back in many ways.  I am grateful for people that have the best interest of Kentucky in mind, that is what the Coaches Association is for.  

     I am all for supporting the coaches association.  How are the coaches contacted?  What is the cost? 

I'm not the head coach anymore, but would still like to be part of the association.  If we are contacted trough the school, I will never get the info.  Nor will they help out with the membership dues.  Does only one coach need to be part of the association to have their kids eligible?

I am all for supporting the coaches association. How are the coaches contacted? What is the cost?

I'm not the head coach anymore, but would still like to be part of the association. If we are contacted trough the school, I will never get the info. Nor will they help out with the membership dues. Does only one coach need to be part of the association to have their kids eligible?

go to kywca.com, it has the info there