Any matches to look out for?
Big match ups at state duals
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Who will be the top four Teams in the Championship Rd????
And who will win if Big School Champ faces Small school Champ .I think there are big schools that can beat Union in a dual this year
Team race:
1. FC beat Trinity (without Frankrone)
2. FC lost to union
3. Trinity beat Union
4. Trinity beat St X at sectional
5. Campbell is always a tough out
6. Oldham Co is solid, but has holes.
Big schools will depend on draw. St. X is going to be crazy tough 2 seed and I'm predicting will beat the 1 in their pool. FC could take out trinity....but Frankrone is back. I'll take FC and X. Both will lose to union if they wrestle off. If Trinity makes it thru I'll take them over Union since they've beaten them already.
X beat CC but CC was leading going into the last match ,and at state duals I think CC would do some moving for a change I doubt either had a full team but CC dominated a team in a tourny two weeks ago that dominated them a week earlier because CC almost had a full team .last week was the first time CC had its whole team together and I think they doubled the next closest team and there may be some changes or options at some weights ,I doubt they do as bad as last yr even though they appeared much weaker after the first few weeks ,it will all come down to a couple swing matches ,could be a Crazy tournament if CC and X wrestle first rounds like last yr best case scenario for CC is if it comes down to the same situation as in WV needing 3 of the last 4 upperweights to do well .CC can now switch guys around like other teams in the past have done to them .
Still say final pools should be round robin like the first pools ,doesnt make sense switching the format VERY possible for a win loss three way tie in the finals that would come down to Criteria ,which should be wins then pins but who knows these days it could be first caution loses lol
FC beat Trinity at the 10-way when they had Frankrone
It is a big toss up between CC and FC-but it could get weird with the draw and final round set-up-if things don't go as expected...and why should it necessarily? ST X is always tough-and a FAVORITE-no doubt about it. I am not so sure that Oldham County has that many holes-that it will dramatically affect them getting to the FINALS-Especially if they get a good early draw: Any ideas for the dark horse teams that could potentially upset the apple cart that these "favorites" are apparently riding in?
Only the six Sectional Champs will be seeded. The rest are drawn in with teams going on the opposite side of bracket of the team from their sectional. My prediction on seeding and pools:
#1 Oldham, draw in Ohio and Meade
#4 Campbell Co, add #5 Christian Co and draw in St X
#3 Trinity, add #6 Henry Clay and draw in Ryle
#2 Fern Creek, draw in N. Hardin and Johnson Central
Fern Creek vs Trinity in one semi, Oldham vs St X in other semi. If St X is drawn into Oldham Co pool, then the winner would get Campbell Co in that semi.
Team race:
1. FC beat Trinity (without Frankrone)
2. FC lost to union
3. Trinity beat Union
4. Trinity beat St X at sectional
5. Campbell is always a tough out
6. Oldham Co is solid, but has holes.
Big schools will depend on draw. St. X is going to be crazy tough 2 seed and I'm predicting will beat the 1 in their pool. FC could take out trinity....but Frankrone is back. I'll take FC and X. Both will lose to union if they wrestle off. If Trinity makes it thru I'll take them over Union since they've beaten them already.
Unions lineup has changed since Trinity beat them ,Union took a forfeit at 106 but Trinitys may have changed too .
CC and X wrestled first round last yr ,it would seem odd them in the same pool this yr but perhaps that is how it goes .
If they actually seeded the tournament ,no way CC sees X in the first pool.
With that said, do seeds/pools happen day of duals or before hand?
Like I said earlier, I wouldn't want to be the #1 with X as the draw in same pool. I'm not even sure how many pools there are. Based on RYP--X and Campbell would be a battle--I will pick X. Trinity vs. FC will come down to one match at end as well. It was criteria one time. Whatever way they turn out, I'm confident we are going to get to see some great, close duals....as it should be.
I thought X wrestled,
Woodford Co. - Pool
North Hardin - Pool
Trinity - Pool
Oldham Co.- Big FINAL
Union - Small vs. Big
But I agree, rather see X and Campbell outside their first pool.
Probably so I always get X and Trinity mixed up, TOO much Green.
X is the good guys and Trinity is the other.......Just Kidding !!!!! Rocks
As for CC they seem healthy "knock knock"and everyone seemed good to go ,I still think they are a better tournament team and I think they do some moving around at the duals that could make it interesting .
And at 120 ,they have kids who are better than some ranked in the top eight leading me to think they have a very good chance of having their placers in the first six classes then a chance at 3 more ,two for sure ,8 state placers should do it .
Trinity has to many loses to be seeded ahead of CC. Nice try RYP. Everyone knows you want to avoid St. X.
Speaking of big matches, I have seen coaches out guess themselves so many times bumping the lineup around, I it ends up taking that one big match (State Tourney) preview, away.
There are a few exceptions where it works out, but not always. I think wrestling straight up, tends to be better. IMHO
It is better, but takes away from the chess match that is Dual wrestling ,it does backfire at times .
I think yenter Ervin will be close
I think yenter Ervin will be close
Campbell will have to win as well as union
FC beat Trinity at the 10-way when they had Frankrone
Technically your right, Creek won, but only based off having a few more falls.
The score was tied.
In a dual a win is a win ,you can win more matches and still Lose .Still sounds very close .And that brings it full circle back to why the object of The Sport is to PIN .
what about a Yenter & Klein match up?I think yenter Ervin will be close

Fern Creek beat Trinity by 10 at the Gladiator. I'm not sure who either was missing though.
They were missing frankrone
I think Trinity still won that weight class though so that wouldn't change the outcome...would it?
Not if they won by more than 3 ,unless the rest of the team cannot wrestle without Frankrone.
My pic's without seeing the draw would be (Big school) Fern Creek and st.X (small school) Union and Scott High. this only applys if st X is not in Ferns bracket