dominic lampe will not get to wrestle at region or state because he had a can of dip in his backpack and tobacco products are considered drugs at st. x. This is his first time ever in 4yrs there of any violation of any kind . I new there would be alot of rumors and I thought it best to just get the truth out . Dominic is going to wrestle at chattanooga with his brothers so he will get over it.Dominic is a great son and has been a good student his punishment seems extreme but there is nothing we can do but move on.    jeff lampe

Wow, crazy...

That's terrible. There must be some other type of punishment that fits the "crime".

This is extremely disappointing. Dominic seems like a great kid. Comes from a great family. The punishment seems rather extreme. I would bet the majority of high school students have tobacco of some sort with them at school. Was this search of his bag legal? What if it was in his vehicle? Would the same rules apply? Could they search that as well? Rules are rules, but this sounds ridiculous to me. Just out of curiosity, is he 18? If so, I bet you have a foot to stand on. This really sucks.

That's absolutely rediculous. This punishment is way too extreme. That kid has worked at his craft for years blood sweat and tears. A can of dip? Wow

Could he transfer somewhere and compete? Or try and like appeal the punishment

In many schools having tobacco on school property is an automatic suspension of 2-3 days. Students who do not attend school for whatever reason on the day of a meet or Friday before a Saturday meet are not eligible to participate. I am not certain of st. X's rules but in many schools if the incident had occurred last week he would have been able to wrestle at regionals. The timing of the incident and subsequent suspension may be what is preventing him from participating at Regionals. Like I say, I am not sure of the specific rules at St. X. Just offering a possible explanation.

This is extremely disappointing. Dominic seems like a great kid. Comes from a great family. The punishment seems rather extreme. I would bet the majority of high school students have tobacco of some sort with them at school. Was this search of his bag legal? What if it was in his vehicle? Would the same rules apply? Could they search that as well? Rules are rules, but this sounds ridiculous to me. Just out of curiosity, is he 18? If so, I bet you have a foot to stand on. This really sucks.

I highly doubt the majority of high school kids would have some some of tobacco with them at school.  And while it might seem harsh, I know as a coach, part of my agreement is not having tobacco while on campus, and if I did, I would be let go if caught.  Tobacco free means tobacco free.  And it applies whether you're 18 or not.

Wow sorry to here that,this is so terrible they could have changed something where he could have received his punishment after state

This is extremely disappointing. Dominic seems like a great kid. Comes from a great family. The punishment seems rather extreme. I would bet the majority of high school students have tobacco of some sort with them at school. Was this search of his bag legal? What if it was in his vehicle? Would the same rules apply? Could they search that as well? Rules are rules, but this sounds ridiculous to me. Just out of curiosity, is he 18? If so, I bet you have a foot to stand on. This really sucks.

I thought the same about how they found the dip. Just too extreme a punishment.

I thought the same about how they found the dip. Just too extreme a punishment.

For wrestling fans, yes it is an extreme punishment.  But would we be as outraged or upset if this were just Joe Averagestudent??  Would we look for alternative ways to punish the non athlete??  Would we even care??  I agree it does suck.  Lampe not being at state and getting a chance to defend his title is a letdown.  But rules are rules, and he doesn't deserve any special treatment.  People complain all the time about athletes being able to get away with breaking the law and getting away with it.  And now one gets held accountable, and everybody complains.  

Sorry to hear this Mr. Lampe. Does seem extreme but often good comes out setbacks like this.

Punishment doesn't fit the crime brother.

That is terrible, he is a great kid.  Now for the real question..... Who is jumping ship and going to 170?  Is it too late to bump?  I am just asking the question that everyone is thinking...

Punishment doesn't fit the crime brother.

Agree 100%

Sorry to hear this. Things have changed since I was in school.

I agree with captain obvious... Seems like they could've easily dealt with this after state I feel like they are goin out of their way because of state and trying to make an example... This is way too extreme of a punishment I feel sorry

I do think that St. X takes rules like this more seriously than most other schools.

I agree with captain obvious... Seems like they could've easily dealt with this after state I feel like they are goin out of their way because of state and trying to make an example... This is way too extreme of a punishment I feel sorry

So you believe they would have treated another student differently?? Do you think they would have delayed punishment for breaking a rule, that I'm guessing is pretty well known?? I just don't believe that. I've never heard of a school delaying punishment. Get caught today, and we suspend you next week. Doesn't happen. Again, we complain when athletes get treated differently, or given special treatment. But yet, that's exactly what many of us are asking ST X to do in this case. I'm sure he's a great kid, and he's certainly a great wrestler. And the 170 weight class will have an asterisk because he won't be there. But does that grant him special treatment??

Rjs4470. We aren't talking about a pro or college athlete. We also aren't talking about drugs or some serious offense. Im not saying he shouldnt be punished, but there are other forms of punishment that might be more suitable. Things aren't always so cut and dry.

The guy had a can of dip... 60% of high schoolers carry that everyday it is not a big offense and if it was serious it wouldn't be legal... At alot of schools if you get caught you just get detention... Now yes he is an athlete and I do believe he has earned the right through work other "averageJoes" have not put in and helped his school win a state championship in 13'? He is not a college or pro athlete getting away with wife abuse or drug chargers like the nfl cause their athletes.. This is a high school kid with dip... I think the school could overlook it and find an alternative yes

From the St X athletic handbook:  "The following statements of policy are in effect for all student athletes at Saint Xavier High School. Individual coaches may add to these sanctions, but may not reduce them.

TOBACCO

And the 170 weight class will have an asterisk because he won't be there.

Would it have an asterisk if he wasn't able to compete b/c of injury?  If so, then I would think there'd be asterisks all over the place, all through the season.

Yes, it's a shame this is the way he ends a great HS career, but the rules are clearly stated & if you choose to violate the rules then you also choose to accept the consequences if/when you get caught.  That's a lesson we all learn sooner or later...just ask anyone who's ever gotten a speeding ticket.

The guy had a can of dip... 60% of high schoolers carry that everyday it is not a big offense and if it was serious it wouldn't be legal... At alot of schools if you get caught you just get detention... Now yes he is an athlete and I do believe he has earned the right through work other "averageJoes" have not put in and helped his school win a state championship in 13'? He is not a college or pro athlete getting away with wife abuse or drug chargers like the nfl cause their athletes.. This is a high school kid with dip... I think the school could overlook it and find an alternative yes

Fair enough. But you are way off base about 60% of high schoolers using tobacco. And where do you draw the line. What about the star chess player? Or the kid who read the most books last year?? Or what if it were Lampe's backup, who probably works just as hard but may not be as talented? Do they get punished because they cant beat Lampe on the mat?? I May be wrong, but I'm guessing Lampe knew the rule and what would happen if he got caught. And he did it anyway. Does that work anywhere else in real life?? What if he were only an ok wrestler? Then should he be punished like everyone else?? Rules are rules, and schools can't selectively decide when and when not to follow them. That creates chaos. I want to see him wrestle as much as anyone. But letting him get away with no punishment, or delayed punishment sends the wrong the message. If you screw up you should be held accountable. Being a great wrestler, student, or the best tiddlywinks player doesn't exempt you from following the rules or treated differently.

Dominic has accepted his punishment and no one ever asked for any special treatment.Dominic will be fine I only posted because I thought the rumors would be worse than the truth.When ever any of you or your children are faced with something similar I hope you find more mercy than Dominic did.

Would it have an asterisk if he wasn't able to compete b/c of injury?  If so, then I would think there'd be asterisks all over the place, all through the season.

Yes, it's a shame this is the way he ends a great HS career, but the rules are clearly stated & if you choose to violate the rules then you also choose to accept the consequences if/when you get caught.  That's a lesson we all learn sooner or later...just ask anyone who's ever gotten a speeding ticket.

Hold on....you're taking this one quote out of context. If you read all my posts, I have no issue with the punishment, and agree with the decision. Certainly any fan of the sport wants to see him wrestle. And yes, for whatever reason he's not there, people will ask the question "what if..." But we will still crown a champ, and whoever wins will still get the recognition and glory of being a state champ. But people will naturally say and wonder if the outcome would have been different if he had been there. That's was my only point.

Dominic has accepted his punishment and no one ever asked for any special treatment.Dominic will be fine I only posted because I thought the rumors would be worse than the truth.When ever any of you or your children are faced with something similar I hope you find more mercy than Dominic did.

And i certainly agree. I hope to never find one of my kids in this situation, but if they do, I'd do everything I could to help them out. But ultimately, a rule is a rule and you have to accept the punishment. I'm sure he will do well and in the future and move on beyond this. It's all part of growing up. No one is immune from making a bad decision. It's how we move on afterwards and what we learn from it that's important.

Dom is a great young man. And it does not Suprise me he has accepted his ( overboard to most high school parents ) punishment. And I know he has learned a life lesson. But I bet he would be the first one too tell everyone he broke a rule. Because he is a great young man with a great college career ahead of him, and one day way in the future he will be a great father and husband because of how he was raised and the lessons he will learn along the way. But yes this sucks for every 170 and it sucks for team st.x.... GO TIGERS

Wow, that is an extreme punishment for a can of tobacco.

Mr. Lampe,

I can't begin to imagine the devastation and regret that Dominic must be feeling. I know as a parent we want to fix these things so desperately and make them better for our children when they hurt. We all know kids are kids and they make mistakes! I admire your honesty and apologize for the rantings and quotes of the two rule book nazis! Their douchebaggery is unnecessary and unappreciated! Good Luck in TN!

Mr. Lampe,

I can't begin to imagine the devastation and regret that Dominic must be feeling. I know as a parent we want to fix these things so desperately and make them better for our children when they hurt. We all know kids are kids and they make mistakes! I admire your honesty and apologize for the rantings and quotes of the two rule book nazis! Their douchebaggery is unnecessary and unappreciated! Good Luck in TN!

Quoting the rule book doesn't mean I agree with it...I only quoted b/c of questions being raised about severity and timing.

And BTW, just b/c someone may agree with the enforcement of rules (that others know about in advance & agree to abide by) doesn't make them a nazi.  Nazis force rules on others who have no say in the matter.

Thank you, Merriam-Webster!

Mr. Lampe,

I can't begin to imagine the devastation and regret that Dominic must be feeling. I know as a parent we want to fix these things so desperately and make them better for our children when they hurt. We all know kids are kids and they make mistakes! I admire your honesty and apologize for the rantings and quotes of the two rule book nazis! Their douchebaggery is unnecessary and unappreciated! Good Luck in TN!

I think it's harsh too. Never said I liked the punishment. I said I want to see him wrestle. And most importantly, I've never heard or seen anything that would make me think he's not a great kid. But i guess, if I understand you correctly, that if I believe athletes should not be treated differently than the rest of the student body, (as it seems many are implying) that makes me a douchebag and a Nazi. Thanks for the insight.

Ok i am going to respond to this post because i believe i know more on this topic than anyone can imagine.I want start off by saying Dominic is and always will be one of my favorite kids from st.x or any other school for that matter.I want to put into prospective how st.x deals with this,you notice i said st.x and not the wrestling team.When we were deciding what school to sent AJ to for high school the single most important thing we were looking at was discipline first(we felt he needed that the most)then academics.The coach we talked to never once mentioned wrestling.In Ajs first year before his first match he had an incident and i have never shyed away from the truth so i will tell exactly what happened so you can maybe understand how st.x works.While i was at work,Aj had some friends over at MY house(his mom was home)and one of the older boys brought over some beer and yes aj drank one.Someone from a rival school told their AD,that AD called ST.x and told their AD what they had heard.The coaches called Aj in and asked him did he do it,he replied YES.Even though it had nothing to do with school or a school function the coaches said they were bound by the school handbook to impose punishment.Had he denied it ,i was told it would all be considered hearsay.So when the coaches called me in they said AJ would miss the first 3 tournaments and be required to mop the mats for a month.Now i sent him there for discipline so how was i to argue ? My only point that i stressed was,I love rules for the kids but if it's not inforced the same on all kids their not worth having,and believe me i had my doubts on if that would always happen.So that was offense number one.The following year while in class a kid pulled out an e-sig,by everything i had been told at the time e-sigs were supposed to be ok,but i didn't know much about them.Well,aj desides to take a puff off it and guess what the teacher sees him.So i get a call from the coach telling me this offense number 2,even though there was nothing in the handbook against an e-sig.AJ was furious and said if he had to do the punishment he was transferring,so i went and talked to the coach.At first i was adiment that the punishment was to tough,now he has to sit out 6 tournament's,thats over half the season.Well one little thing aj forgot to mention was that he had been told repeatedly that even though e-sigs were not in the handbook they will be handled the same as tobacco,so i went home told aj he had to suck it up and do the punishment,thats why we went there.We only left for financial reasons.So i agree with everything rjs4470 is saying,do i think the punishments are harsh ? ABSOLUTELY but you can't bend them for anyone or you mind as well not have them.It sends the wrong message and maybe if the NFL players had been tought earlier in life that they are not above everyone else some of them wouldn't have turned out like they have.Dominic is a great kid that has just learned a very hurtful but valuable lesson,I wish nothing but the best for him.

I am so sorry to here this.  I know at our public school the first offense is a tobacco class. I hope that wrestlers across our state can learn something from this.  I know I called my son and read Mr. Lampe post with the hope that he realizes what is at stake if he makes a mistake. I just wished St X would have the same policy. The state tourney will not be the same without him.  I know I will try to now plan a trip to Chattanooga to watch him next year.  This punishment seems to not fit the crime.  Lets all try to remember that all kids make mistake and none of us should judge them because of it.  Thanks Mr. Lampe for sharing this private matter I know that it put things into perspective for my son and I.

Caught with a can of dip = 2 or 3 day suspension. Sounds like he was suspended for definitely Friday which means he can't wrestle regionals, which means he can't wrestle state. The punishment does fit the crime; it is just OTHERWORLDLY unfortunate timing.

Silver lining here though is that state is such a minute part of wrestling for a kid as talented as Dominic.

Luckily Dominic is already headed to Chattanooga.

What if Chattanooga wasn't in the picture and he needed a State Title win to help secure a scholarship to another university?

This isn't the Ten Commandments we're talking about here.

This is a flawed man-made rule that could easily be adjusted or changed at any time.

So St. X was willing to take a risk on ruining his college career over a petty rule. That's not justified.

Being a school based on Christian beliefs it would be nice to see St. X operate with their Christians beliefs in hand and show some mercy to Dominic and not operate like a fortune 500 company! Next to my own Son Dominic & Justin Lampe are my favorite kids we've been around thru our years in wrestling. And I'll tell you what, this straight pisses me off.

I don't care what's in their handbook. Times change and so do people.

Dominic Lampe does not deserve what he's worked over 10 years for because of what he did. I'll always miss & love the St. X wrestling program and their coaches, but as far as the rest of the school goes, I'm glad we made the move to where we are.

Mr. Lampe/Dominic    Classy parent = Classy kids.   I applaud your disclosure of the situation really bad timing I agree.  And I also agree that he will go on to better things.  I know some of the reasons you sent your boys to St X was for the academics, and disciplined learning environment.  Others can say private schools have advantages and this is an example of the advantage they have--  Discipline consistent and parents that see the bigger picture and are adult enough to help their child through this.  He has always been nothing but polite and humble even after crushing his opponent. Talked to him at Duals good kid,  good luck UC.

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I hate it, but 170 is not the same now.  I would say it hurts KY wrestling in the end.  Dom is a stud, and it takes away from that weight class. 

Mr Francone I type slowly and your post was not here when I started.  My comment is no reflection about you or your post.  I too feel sorry for Dominic but was trying to be supportive of coffesgood.  Sorry if you took this negative but after all the bashings I have received in the PAST I just want to make sure this site gets back to its former level of decorum. 

Mr Francone I type slowly and your post was not here when I started. My comment is no reflection about you or your post. I too feel sorry for Dominic but was trying to be supportive of coffesgood. Sorry if you took this negative but after all the bashings I have received in the PAST I just want to make sure this site gets back to its former level of decorum.

No offense taken at all.

We spent 5 years with Dominic on the same team. So, I'm sure I'm feeling a little more emotional about the situation than most.

Tyler spent his freshman year at St. X, so I'm sure my outlook on this specific situation might be a little different than most too.

My wife doesn't know the Lampes personally but she is upset about it because it's his last year in high school. She was telling me about Dominic and reminded me how upset she was when our son was hurt and couldn't play football his freshman year and this was so much bigger because it was Dominic's last State tournament. So she may blast people who she thinks aren't here to offer support.

My wife doesn't know the Lampes personally but she is upset about it because it's his last year in high school. She was telling me about Dominic and reminded me how upset she was when our son was hurt and couldn't play football his freshman year and this was so much bigger because it was Dominic's last State tournament. So she may blast people who she thinks aren't here to offer support.

I'm on your wife's side on this one!

Mike i hope you don't think i am disagreeing because i am not,but you would have to change the rules in the handbook at the start of the year if not every kid that was ever punished for the same offense would have been wrongly punished.When you see people smoking e-sigs everywhere as a thing that is supposed to be a helpful tool to keep from tobacco,it makes you wonder how a punishment could be so harsh,that is what ST.X.is all about.like i said their punishments can be too harsh and i hope that an e-sig is the worst thing my kids ever do.but i will say since the e-sig thing i have heard many bad stories about them.

Mike i hope you don't think i am disagreeing because i am not,but you would have to change the rules in the handbook at the start of the year if not every kid that was ever punished for the same offense would have been wrongly punished.When you see people smoking e-sigs everywhere as a thing that is supposed to be a helpful tool to keep from tobacco,it makes you wonder how a punishment could be so harsh,that is what ST.X.is all about.like i said their punishments can be too harsh and i hope that an e-sig is the worst thing my kids ever do.but i will say since the e-sig thing i have heard many bad stories about them.

No I don't think that at all Andy.

It's just my opinion is a little different about how St. X handles things because I've dealt with St. X on their rules before (non disciplinary reason) and they were sticklers then too.

I'm just one of those rare people that believes in 2nd chances as long as someone wasn't hurt no matter what the rules are.

Like I said before, I look at X different in these situations because, it's not Christ-like to not forgive and give another chance and that what's their supposed to represent is Christ first and foremost.

I agree

You have to admire a school that puts the rules out there and then abides by them - St. X puts a lot of very fine young men out in the world. My thoughts go to Coach K - he's a tremendous role model and I'm sure this is killing him. Good luck to the Lampe family - they have always been a class act and Jeff's posts reinforce that.

This is quite a blow to the ST. X team I know! This can be a crushing moment to a young man knowing that he most likely held another championship in his hand. I am sure Dominic will bounce back from this issue very quickly.He knows he has brighter days ahead at UTC. Most wrestlers are resilient because that is what the sport has taught them. Dominic is a young man now and I am positive he is aware there are repercussions for our actions no matter how big or small the offense made. I am not saying I agree with the suspension by any means! It is just life has taught me that we should always do the right thing even when no one is looking, if that is part of the guidelines provided to you. I admire the administration and the coach for holding fast on this issue regardless of the situation or individual at hand. Best wishes on a brighter future Dominic and we will miss watching you finish off a great high school career in wrestling.

You have to admire a school that puts the rules out there and then abides by them - St. X puts a lot of very fine young men out in the world. My thoughts go to Coach K - he's a tremendous role model and I'm sure this is killing him. Good luck to the Lampe family - they have always been a class act and Jeff's posts reinforce that.

Yes a great school,great coach,great family...tough love sucks but the end results almost always shine brighter. We live in a world of rules and standards. st.x true to there's will not bend or overlook them.

Tough spot to be in for sure. I always try to look for some kind of silver lining. Maybe Dominic's pain and sacrifice will benifit  someone else. If some other kid sees the cost he paid, maybe it will help them to do the right thing in whatever situation or temptation he is facing.

When I heard about the situation last night, I was absolutely sick.

I love these kids as if they are my own, and watched many, including Dom, AJ and Tyler grow up through the program.

As a St. X dad, I am very conflicted. While I appreciate the discipline the school instills in the kids, I just feel that this punishment is very harsh. In a case such as this, there are circumstances that should come into play.

I know the rules are the rules, but I have always thought the policy itself was very harsh.

Not many know that St. X holds their athletes to a high standard when it comes to their rules. In the Freshman orientation for parents, I was like whoa. Then I went home and tried to scare the crap out of my kid so he wouldn’t be tempted to try anything that could put his sport in jeopardy.

In AJ’s case if I recall, something happened, I thought it was i the summer, but I could be wrong. I didn’t agree with that at all if that was the case. 

Before anyone goes bashing, that’s what I am saying, I am conflicted. But I agree with Mike on this one. It just hurts real bad to see a kid of this caliber, talent and I can tell you what many might not know, by far the hardest worker in the room, lose an opportunity for something that I feel personally is not a big deal.

Andy & Mike – As always, I’ll be rooting for AJ and Tyler.

Jeff – I’m so sorry, and I appreciate everything you and your family have done personally for Dallas.

-          Brad Miles 

Tough spot to be in for sure. I always try to look for some kind of silver lining. Maybe Dominic's pain and sacrifice will benifit  someone else. If some other kid sees the cost he paid, maybe it will help them to do the right thing in whatever situation or temptation he is facing.

It already has.  This morning, before school, I had to tell my elementary aged son that his favorite wrestler will not be participating in the State Championships.  Dominic is my son's favorite wrestler...and one of mine.  He actually spoke to my son one time and it meant a great deal to him.

I cannot begin to understand how the Lampe family feels right now, nor will I try to act as if I can.  But I do know that my son learned a valuable lesson this morning...no one is above the rules.  (I am certainly not implying that Dominic thinks, or thought, that he is...he is a fine young man and one that I encouraged, and will continue to encourage,  my son to imitate.)  

Either way this situation played out...there were going to be posts that were critical of the decision.  If X decided to let him participate, people would criticize them for bending the rules, preferring special athletes, and only caring about State Titles.  They chose to go the other route, however, and now we see the results.  We can say they were "Unchristian" in their decision, but we must also understand that "showing no partiality" and "doing what you say you will do" are also Christian traits that X is to demonstrate...not that any of us are perfect at it.  If this had taken place earlier in the season, it might not have been the issue it is now.  We can argue the merits of the punishment or just realize it was a terribly timed event.  Either way, I, and my son, will miss seeing Dominic on the mat in eight days.

I agree this seems really harsh and is unfortunate for Domunic, but the rules are explicit. Timing is just the worst.

It stinks for him but ob the flip side you've got to admire StX for sticking to its principles regarding athletes.

I imagine this lesson will resonate for a long time and keep other kids from being tempted to get away with something.

A few people mentioned someone else getting a shot to wrestle in Domonic's absence, but did this come too late to change the lineup? Does St. X just have to forfeit in the 170 class?

dominic lampe will not get to wrestle at region or state because he had a can of dip in his backpack and tobacco products are considered drugs at st. x. This is his first time ever in 4yrs there of any violation of any kind . I new there would be alot of rumors and I thought it best to just get the truth out . Dominic is going to wrestle at chattanooga with his brothers so he will get over it.Dominic is a great son and has been a good student his punishment seems extreme but there is nothing we can do but move on.    jeff lampe

Jeff:  My heart goes out to you.  I COMPLETELY understand your feelings right now.  I have three sons who wrestled in high school.  One was a senior at a high school in Tennessee - ranked #1 in the state - undefeated.  Got in a car with kids who were drinking and was suspended the week before the Regional tournament.  I was the Tournament Director for that Regional Tournament and had to face the coaches and explain why my son wasn't wrestling.  That was over 15 years ago and it still hurts to think about it.  People will tell you that he will get over it...and he will.  People will tell you that YOU will get over it...and you will to some degree.  However, the disappointment you feel, that I felt, hurts a father.  I was more disappointed FOR him than I was IN him.  My only advice - I took my son to the state tournament and he coached and cheered for his teammates.  He and I spent a lot of time together that weekend.  The stuff of life...  Praying for you, Jeff.

My heart also goes out to Dominic as well, I have, a long time ago felt the pain and hurt associated with letting my parents down. the people who supported me the most and was my biggest fans. I felt ashamed and stupid for doing something so silly. I felt hopeless and wondered how I could make it up to them? Truth is you already have their forgiveness. You made a mistake..It's human.

They will always be proud of you, so pick yourself up dust yourself off and go forward. This will pass and you have big things in front of you.

Just sad timing, Firecrackers and tobacco in the last week of your senior season. Sad that STX doesn't take in the fact that the Lampe family had represent STX in a positive way for many years and that for a religious school tobacco isn't a sin and a first offence can be re looked at. I understand the concept of rules being right/wrong view and everyone should be held to the same standard. but jugs and other punishment could have been used instead for a first offence

Just sad timing, Firecrackers and tobacco in the last week of your senior season. Sad that STX doesn't take in the fact that the Lampe family had represent STX in a positive way for many years and that for a religious school tobacco isn't a sin and a first offence can be re looked at. I understand the concept of rules being right/wrong view and everyone should be held to the same standard. but jugs and other punishment could have been used instead for a first offence

100% agree with everything you said.

Great minds think alike.

My wife was near tears when I got home today. She hasn't been able to get it off her mind. I would hate to think if it were our child.

Kids do stupid stuff. That includes Mr. Lampe's. Seriously, does anyone think there would have been reason to look in lockers or backpacks if they weren't setting off firecrackers in a locker room? That is stupid. It is unfortunate but, in the grand plan, it won't mean a hill of beans.

This can be an amazing opportunity for St X wrestling. They have numbers and will use the next-man-up mentality. Did we not learn anything from the college football season? I mean they won it with a 3rd string quarterback.

As far as an asterisk at 170, there are plenty of times the #1 man didn't get to wrestle at state. I believe the moderator on here can back me up on that one.

So I just saw a news article on courier journal website about this situation(maybe in tomorrows paper?) and it seems like this is getting bigger and bigger. Now there are firecrackers involved.and I find it odd that no one has mentioned that st.x suspended two starters. Both are sitting out of state. At least people can say st.x was fair with both wrestlers..well punished equally

The guy had a can of dip... 60% of high schoolers carry that everyday it is not a big offense and if it was serious it wouldn't be legal... At alot of schools if you get caught you just get detention... Now yes he is an athlete and I do believe he has earned the right through work other "averageJoes" have not put in and helped his school win a state championship in 13'? He is not a college or pro athlete getting away with wife abuse or drug chargers like the nfl cause their athletes.. This is a high school kid with dip... I think the school could overlook it and find an alternative yes

60%!!?? Your worldview is a bit different than mine. Rules are rules. He broke them. Punishment is very harsh. It's just high school wrestling though. I've seen others punished worse for less. He'll recover and go on and do great things in life.

So I just saw a news article on courier journal website about this situation(maybe in tomorrows paper?) and it seems like this is getting bigger and bigger. Now there are firecrackers involved.and I find it odd that no one has mentioned that st.x suspended two starters. Both are sitting out of state. At least people can say st.x was fair with both wrestlers..well punished equally

Please stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill here. Firecrackers, dip, who cares? Not like the kids are smuggling in drugs or anything. They're just kids and made a mistake. They're paying for what they did. Seems best to me if we just let it die out instead of perpetuating the "oooh seems like there's more to the story here" nonsense.

I agree completely about letting this die out. But as far as making a mountain out of a mole hill. Well being a st. X alum, I take offense to people thinking this punishment wasn't fair. Is it a bad situation? Yes it is. I believe ky state laws says you must be 18 to buy tobacco. So any parent that would post on here that it's not a big deal really bothers me and then in the same sentence say the punishment was to harsh, blows me away. How many young men are reading our post? I choose to make sure they don't think its ok.dipping kills. Go tigers

Kids do stupid stuff. That includes Mr. Lampe's. Seriously, does anyone think there would have been reason to look in lockers or backpacks if they weren't setting off firecrackers in a locker room? That is stupid. It is unfortunate but, in the grand plan, it won't mean a hill of beans.

This can be an amazing opportunity for St X wrestling. They have numbers and will use the next-man-up mentality. Did we not learn anything from the college football season? I mean they won it with a 3rd string quarterback.

As far as an asterisk at 170, there are plenty of times the #1 man didn't get to wrestle at state. I believe the moderator on here can back me up on that one.

I'm just thankful that I wasn't as noteworthy as this young man and the mistakes I made in high school weren't discussed online! I'm sure Coach Eslinger knows the family well and sees this for what it is...a speed bump in the life of the young man.

here is a well written editorial on the subject

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/columnists/sullivan/2015/02/12/tim-sullivan-rules-end-st-wrestlers-reign/23326995/

i have held my sons to much higher standards than st.x and for the guy who thinks dip kills I will say sin kills and who on here wants to stand before their judgement with all of their sins laid out before them and have their just judge say RULES ARE RULES SO TO HELL WITH YOU.I do not think any of us want that. St. x is a Catholic school with 2000 yrs of rules to live by and the authority they have is given to them by God to be used for his honor and glory .They did not compare the good Dominic has done to the bad because if they had this would not be a story.I am in full support that what Dominic did was wrong but it was a venial sin with a mortal punishment.If details are important it was one very small firecracker that the boys did not think would be that loud and he dipped twice with his brother who was home for Christmas break and forgot it was in his bag has not done it since.You defend an absolute policy of intolerance that none of us would want God to use at our judgement.St. x could try using the wisdom the church that is what made them a great school and they have left that wisdom behind to be wise like the world.I do not support their teaching in matters of the faith or many other issues but compared to our school choices these days none are any better as parent I teach our faith and morals at home, dip and firecrackers have not made the list of things that send us to hell.  I will never post on here again but these supporters of something they know very little about brought it out of me.you ever want to talk Catholic moral theology give me a call it is my true love Jeff Lampe 337-4271

Jeff, you and your family have always represented yourselves as people of faith and I know you are a true man of God. 

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the issue about the punishment. I may be on the naive side, but like I said earlier, Dom and the Lampe family have done so much good for the team and the sport of wrestling in Kentucky, a transgression like this is minor in my opinion. Like you said they (the news) did not compare the good Dominic has done to the bad because if they had this would not be a story. 

Like one poster said, I am so thankful that I was never of consequence to have my transgressions talked about on the internet or splashed all over the news. I would have never made it through high school sports if that was the case. 

I have coached in the public school system for several years (not bashing public schools, because I loved those kids and they were great), and this transgression would have been minor and we as coaches would have handled, but with much less severity. 

I know Dom is devastated by this, and all we can do is pray for you guys and hope the lesson helps him and others. I know with your guidance, he will come out on top. If there is anything we can ever do for you guys, let us know.     

Kinda reminds me of the pharisees. So caught up with the rules they forgot forgiveness, mercy, love ect. Jesus "go and sin no more". Rules in place to keep order but should be handled with the kids best interest at heart not for the sake of rules. Don't disagree there should be punishment but they don't need to "crucify" the kid. When I thought of St X. The Lampe Boys were who I thought of. They've always represented themselves very very yes sir no sir. Always walked away extremely impressed each and every encounter. They represented StX very well. Now give the darn kid a punishment that fits and let him finish the stellar hs career he started.

Steal something and you have to say 10 Hail Mary's and 10 Our father's

I agree the punishment is overly harsh and definitely dont understand why or how it made the paper I never wrestled and am pretty new to the sport my first state tournament was when the im assuming oldest lampe won state his sr yr sorry cant remember his name I could understand if it was alcohol or drugs or if he was even caught dipping but just for having a can is a bit harsh as I said I have no relationship to the school family or anyone involved in the sport just a fan and enjoyed watching this young man wrestle I believe the punishment should be up to the coach some extra running or something dont deprive the athlete his last chance of his hs career to go out on top

From looking at the Region 4 brackets, it appears Dominic Lampe isn't the only wrestler who won't be participating in regionals for St. X 

As a former sports editor, here is why this is a story:

1. To explain why a returning state champion is not wresting in regionals (and from probably the most well-known wrestling family in Louisville)

2. St. X was a slight favorite to win the region against rival Trinity and that advantage seems lost

3. It's a story of a school sticking to it's rules even though they may not seem like they fit the "crime"

4. Why wouldn't wrestling be newsworthy?

From looking at the Region 4 brackets, it appears Dominic Lampe isn't the only wrestler who won't be participating in regionals for St. X 

 

As a former sports editor, here is why this is a story:

1. To explain why a returning state champion is not wresting in regionals (and from probably the most well-known wrestling family in Louisville)

2. St. X was a slight favorite to win the region against rival Trinity and that advantage seems lost

3. It's a story of a school sticking to it's rules even though they may not seem like they fit the "crime"

4. Why wouldn't wrestling be newsworthy?

Point 2 - Trinity lost the favorite at 220 and a big point scorer at 138 to injury. Does that make X the favorite again?

Point 3&4 - The story IMHO is about school policy and less about wrestling. Today's C-J also featured Mikey Smith from Moore. That story was about wrestling.

It's a policy for athletes. And Mikey is a super kid.

I think Trinity has a leg up because StX also lost the No. 2 seed at 195.

"I think Trinity has a leg up because StX also lost the No. 2 seed at 195."

So is Elijah Allgeier out also??? 

"I think Trinity has a leg up because StX also lost the No. 2 seed at 195."

 

 

So is Elijah Allgeier out also??? 

I don't know the reason, but he's not listed as participating in 195 or any other weight class now on Trackwrestling.

Yes, allgeier was the other kid involved. Sad, just came back from injured too