We had a nice little powow in the newly finished man cave and made a bunch of adjustments.  I'm sure there are more to come as some teams appear to be struggling to maintain their results on track.  A few notes and items of discussion we've talked about:

1) Union County is starting to look pretty strong and appears to be a true favorite at this point.  They seem to have the horses to run with Trinity, but also a few more role players that will score for them.

2) 106 is filling out into a strong weight.  Early on it didn't look like nearly the same depth that we saw last season, but it is starting to look pretty strong again this year with 10-12 very good kids.  Wheeler keeps winning.  Yost looked great at WCI.  Roth made the finals at GMV.  From the team race perspective, not sure who Union will put here.  If they find a kid that turns it on here, they could pull away from the field.

3) After 2 great matches with Duncan, it looks like Sheffer will finish the season at 128.  Also of note at 128, Castellano may be the most improved wrestler I have seen this year.

4) The top 6-7 kids at 138 will be fun to see battle it out; so many different styles and backgrounds.  Hopefully the state bracket is a fair draw.

5) This weight looks a bit different with Leak back on the mat and Oxford down from 152 (yes, Union Co has a number of kids on the drop).

6) 152/160  Those top 3 at each weight are some tough kids.

7) After Cornett we may be very surprised who ends up on the podium.

8) Giving Meiman another week to get back on the mat.  Same with the King brothers from JC.

9) If I was ever going to pick against my rankings to predict a state champ, Portman might be the guy right now.

10) Still awaiting the return of Landon Young.

11) Alert, for the first time since I can remember, Region 6 drops to 2nd in the state scoring.  Region 4 (Trinity, St X, Male, Central) is putting up some points and the depth isn't quite the same as in years past in Region 6.

WR Rankings 2015_16 JAN8.pdf

Heidorf beat Ackley at the Gladiator. 

For doss; Jerome Jones and Max Powell only switched weights for one tournament, maybe two. For regionals and state Max will be 145 and Jerome will be 152. 

Also I thought Johnny Meiman was done wrestling? Any further information on this?

Edit: I didn't read your post all the way through. sorry. 

Avery Buckman has been 170 all year and won't be making the drop to 160. Cole Sherman on the other hand will be at 184, should be wrestling there today at the Father Ryan tournament.  

113 horton from ryle nearly beat the deck madison central kid and they are 14 rankings apart that weight must be highly competitive

Also i agree castellano has been a super stud this year i believe he was in the finals at gmva and swowca? That is impressive way to represent ky!

52 minutes ago, ccbcdeke said:

Heidorf beat Ackley at the Gladiator. 

Yeah we saw that.  Error on my part to not make that adjustment.  We will update again in about 2 weeks, so it will show then.

Bullitt Central 285 Sanders beat North Oldham Jones 3-1 last weekend. 

41 minutes ago, 385 said:

For doss; Jerome Jones and Max Powell only switched weights for one tournament, maybe two. For regionals and state Max will be 145 and Jerome will be 152. 

Any reason?

12 minutes ago, Usawresstling said:

113 horton from ryle nearly beat the deck madison central kid and they are 14 rankings apart that weight must be highly competitive

Also i agree castellano has been a super stud this year i believe he was in the finals at gmva and swowca? That is impressive way to represent ky!

Just wins and losses.  Almost doesn't get you a medal.  Deck has wins over Dodd (top 10 @ 120), Skeeters, and Mattox.  Horton can compete, but doesn't have any ranked wins.

11 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:

Just wins and losses.  Almost doesn't get you a medal.  Deck has wins over Dodd (top 10 @ 120), Skeeters, and Mattox.  Horton can compete, but doesn't have any ranked wins.

I agree i was just saying that shows how competitive that weight class really is thank you for the insight though ranger i was not questioning your rankings i promise

31 minutes ago, Usawresstling said:

I agree i was just saying that shows how competitive that weight class really is thank you for the insight though ranger i was not questioning your rankings i promise

Ha Ha.  Everyone questions, that's the fun of it.  And yes, 113 should be a fairly competitive weight, especially after those top couple kids.

1 minute ago, Ranger123 said:

Ha Ha.  Everyone questions, that's the fun of it.  And yes, 113 should be a fairly competitive weight, especially after those top couple kids.

Haha i respect all you do for the kids and the rankings and i agree on the competition at 113

3 hours ago, Ranger123 said:

We had a nice little powow in the newly finished man cave and made a bunch of adjustments.  I'm sure there are more to come as some teams appear to be struggling to maintain their results on track.  A few notes and items of discussion we've talked about:

 

1) Union County is starting to look pretty strong and appears to be a true favorite at this point.  They seem to have the horses to run with Trinity, but also a few more role players that will score for them.

2) 106 is filling out into a strong weight.  Early on it didn't look like nearly the same depth that we saw last season, but it is starting to look pretty strong again this year with 10-12 very good kids.  Wheeler keeps winning.  Yost looked great at WCI.  Roth made the finals at GMV.  From the team race perspective, not sure who Union will put here.  If they find a kid that turns it on here, they could pull away from the field.

3) After 2 great matches with Duncan, it looks like Sheffer will finish the season at 128.  Also of note at 128, Castellano may be the most improved wrestler I have seen this year.

4) The top 6-7 kids at 138 will be fun to see battle it out; so many different styles and backgrounds.  Hopefully the state bracket is a fair draw.

5) This weight looks a bit different with Leak back on the mat and Oxford down from 152 (yes, Union Co has a number of kids on the drop).

6) 152/160  Those top 3 at each weight are some tough kids.

7) After Cornett we may be very surprised who ends up on the podium.

8) Giving Meiman another week to get back on the mat.  Same with the King brothers from JC.

9) If I was ever going to pick against my rankings to predict a state champ, Portman might be the guy right now.

10) Still awaiting the return of Landon Young.

11) Alert, for the first time since I can remember, Region 6 drops to 2nd in the state scoring.  Region 4 (Trinity, St X, Male, Central) is putting up some points and the depth isn't quite the same as in years past in Region 6.

WR Rankings 2015_16 JAN8.pdf

Portman at 220 beat Brandon Reed 3-1 at the KY All Star Classic on Oct 4th

Hunter knoth will not make the drop to 120 this year. He will most likely wrestle JV unless a starter at 126 or 32 is out for injury on Meade.

2 hours ago, the man on the moon said:

Any reason?

Max won the wrestle off at the beginning of the season, and last week was told on Tuesday that he would have to wrestle off again for 145 with Jerome on Wednesday, and that he would have to be on weight to wrestle off. So instead of cutting 12 or so pounds in a day he just bumped for one tournament. Which worked out because he got a good close match with Reitnauer, whereas 145 was pretty wide open at Valley HS last weekend.

Has Angel Vasquez beat Erdman before?

1 hour ago, KYwrestling123 said:

Portman at 220 beat Brandon Reed 3-1 at the KY All Star Classic on Oct 4th

"Ranger" was one of the main people putting that event together. I'm pretty sure that he knows the results of it lol

At TCI finals Marik Black looked tough. The score with Soper looks lopsided but he was down 2 points with about 20 seconds left, shot in with a straight double (DEEP) and locked up Soper's body but kinda paused instead of finishing for the 2pt TD and Soper just tossed him with double over hooks straight to his back for a 5 pt move thus the lopsided final score. Heck if Black would've just chose down to start the 3rd period instead of neutral that double leg TD would've won it instead of just tie it. I was confused why Wofo chose neutral since Soper hadn't rode Black at all the entire match. 

Long explanation for one match, I know. And I understand almosts arent wins but the match was very close and Black looked impressive all day long. 

Just my opinion but if Soper is legit top 6 at 126 (he placed last year, the kid is tough) then Black is probably top 10.  Needs to finish his shots quicker so Ranger will move him up some. 

No Marik is not my son. I do not even know him.  I watched the TCI finals and was pretty impressed with a kid I'd never really heard of before. 

From 106-132 Wofo is as strong as anyone else in the state. But they will need help from someone in the upper weights besides Max to make a run at a top 3 finish. Emir at 195 and Eldridge at 170 seem to be the ones most likely to fill that role.

You can't really go by a match from October. Neither wrestler was in wrestling shape then.

Dakota Santiago beat Tucker (#12) at 170, 7-0 and lost a close OT match with Pritchett 3-5. He also finished higher at WCI (took 2nd to Morrow) than the 2-3 ranked ahead of him. Yes, I'm biased :-)

At the end of the day, 170 is pretty wide open aside from Cornett.

1 hour ago, WristControl said:

At TCI finals Marik Black looked tough. The score with Soper looks lopsided but he was down 2 points with about 20 seconds left, shot in with a straight double (DEEP) and locked up Soper's body but kinda paused instead of finishing for the 2pt TD and Soper just tossed him with double over hooks straight to his back for a 5 pt move thus the lopsided final score. Heck if Black would've just chose down to start the 3rd period instead of neutral that double leg TD would've won it instead of just tie it. I was confused why Wofo chose neutral since Soper hadn't rode Black at all the entire match. 

Long explanation for one match, I know. And I understand almosts arent wins but the match was very close and Black looked impressive all day long. 

Just my opinion but if Soper is legit top 6 at 126 (he placed last year, the kid is tough) then Black is probably top 10.  Needs to finish his shots quicker so Ranger will move him up some. 

No Marik is not my son. I do not even know him.  I watched the TCI finals and was pretty impressed with a kid I'd never really heard of before. 

From 106-132 Wofo is as strong as anyone else in the state. But they will need help from someone in the upper weights besides Max to make a run at a top 3 finish. Emir at 195 and Eldridge at 170 seem to be the ones most likely to fill that role.

 

 

Black was 10-7 going into tci, but he did look good. I'd say if he keeps wrestling that way, he will be ranked high. 

5 hours ago, WristControl said:

Has Angel Vasquez beat Erdman before?

No

On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2016‎ ‎8‎:‎53‎:‎13‎, PinAndWin said:

No

oh NO

On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2016‎ ‎12‎:‎12‎:‎48‎, ccbcdeke said:

Heidorf beat Ackley at the Gladiator. 

Heidorf has a motor that does not stop.  Just watch the head trap from Andrew.  I know from experience.  lol.  Caught my son twice in two years at State.  Also,  Mr. Heidorf.  Where is my hat?  you have promised me the last 2 years.  Good luck to Hudson.  My youngest is in 6th grade now.  I will be back. lol

I believe Daniel Knight is Christian County wrestler, not Lexington Catholic. 106 weight class.

7 hours ago, father_of_four said:

I believe Daniel Knight is Christian County wrestler, not Lexington Catholic. 106 weight class.

Yes had a little formula mishap there

The more I see Chris Morrow, the more I'm convinced that if the bracket falls right he will be Casey Cornett's opponent at 170. He beat Sam Griffith 5-3 at the duals yesterday.

 It doesn't matter who Casey Cornett's opponent is at 170 its like a bunch of mice arguing over who gets to stick their head in the mousetrap ,

Eventually the re alignment had to have an effect , I wouldn't count reg six out even missing a few horsemen ,It would be interesting to throw a Meiman back in the mix and add 40 plus points .

Very strong comment for a man without a state title.

I know your not talking ABOUT the Nature Boy because i have more state titles than digits .

And if you are implying Cornett i hardly think a jr who lost to one of the best jrs in the state and country last year as a soph and nearly won a soph national title for himself getting picked as the obvious favorite and being considered  the guy to beat is a stretch at all , He would be one of the top three favorites in the state to be a Champ this year i would think ,Erdman Frankrone and Cornett pretty much locks of course  there are more i simply have seen a lot of these guys ,Cornett has great coaches and he has to be Hungry more so than anyone to grab that gold .I think he has some polishing up to do still to reach his potential but i think everyone expects him to get it done , he is suspect against some of the best and super athletic kids but i havent seen any kids left in KY who can take him with Meiman out of the picture and him down a weight class from last year the boy is HUNGRY and a that makes him dangerous .

Kind of  a stretch calling Erdman a lock when he is not even ranked #1 in his weight class isn't it?  that is one of several weights that is going to be a free for all between the top 4-5 wrestlers anyone of which could have a good/bad tourney. And don't forget about the draw coming into play.

Did you actually just Question The Nature Boy ? Do you think you have anywhere near the history or background in this sport that the Nature Boy has ?Have you ever wrestled partied with or trained with a Horseman ,Well Mister I have   ! I have slammed the Abyss silenced a loose cannon and shut down the town with a Horseman  had lunch with a Steiner been next to the Road Warriors  who requested my presence at ringside when sting busted em open with a steel Chair made Luger look like a weakling in the Gym and gotten praise from the Koloffs .

 And i didnt do all these things to be questioned by some grown man with a spawn fetish  an underdeveloped physique  and a wrestling message board forum god complex  who thinks they can get close to the Nature boys Shine by questioning him  .

First thing , The Nature boy doesnt' look at anyones Rankings that would be like Ali asking  Cossell for advise about His next fight .

Second thing in all Seriousness ,You said  a free for all between the top four or five kids ,a comment that totally shows how little you actually know about the state of affairs in the sport of High School wrestling in the State of Kentucky as well as your own true nature that indicates your looking to debate with someone regardless of how much of a stretch you  have to put to the truth yourself .Not one person on this board thinks there is four other wrestlers in his weight class in the state who can even dream of Beating ERDMAN  .

At the same time I do believe Erdman and Vasquez can have the marquee matchup at state  along with another who may be as Hungry for that state title as Cornett depending upon where everyone ends up , as i said i do not look at rankings i put people on top of them and let em run  . I believe the answer to the question of wether Vasquez has beaten the Erdman was in fact NO  and while Erdman may take a fall here and there the thing to look at is where he is stepping and thats outside the relative safety of the state borders  he sharpens his skills in the hot bed of high school wrestling in the company of Horsemen while most of his in state opponents are wrestling comp that cannot name half the moves that he is applying let alone  hope to beat him . .

Whoooooooooooo

Erdman gets into a zone at state and no one comes within 5 points of him. Just my hunch.

5 hours ago, NatureBoy said:

Did you actually just Question The Nature Boy ? Do you think you have anywhere near the history or background in this sport that the Nature Boy has ?Have you ever wrestled partied with or trained with a Horseman ,Well Mister I have   ! I have slammed the Abyss silenced a loose cannon and shut down the town with a Horseman  had lunch with a Steiner been next to the Road Warriors  who requested my presence at ringside when sting busted em open with a steel Chair made Luger look like a weakling in the Gym and gotten praise from the Koloffs .

 And i didnt do all these things to be questioned by some grown man with a spawn fetish  an underdeveloped physique  and a wrestling message board forum god complex  who thinks they can get close to the Nature boys Shine by questioning him  .

First thing , The Nature boy doesnt' look at anyones Rankings that would be like Ali asking  Cossell for advise about His next fight .

Second thing in all Seriousness ,You said  a free for all between the top four or five kids ,a comment that totally shows how little you actually know about the state of affairs in the sport of High School wrestling in the State of Kentucky as well as your own true nature that indicates your looking to debate with someone regardless of how much of a stretch you  have to put to the truth yourself .Not one person on this board thinks there is four other wrestlers in his weight class in the state who can even dream of Beating ERDMAN  .

At the same time I do believe Erdman and Vasquez can have the marquee matchup at state  along with another who may be as Hungry for that state title as Cornett depending upon where everyone ends up , as i said i do not look at rankings i put people on top of them and let em run  . I believe the answer to the question of wether Vasquez has beaten the Erdman was in fact NO  and while Erdman may take a fall here and there the thing to look at is where he is stepping and thats outside the relative safety of the state borders  he sharpens his skills in the hot bed of high school wrestling in the company of Horsemen while most of his in state opponents are wrestling comp that cannot name half the moves that he is applying let alone  hope to beat him . .

Whoooooooooooo

 

To answer your first 2 questions. 1) yes. 2) without a doubt. as 2 of my grandchildren have embarked on the 3rd generation of wrestling in the state of Kentucky. 

 Now, while your post was eloquent, and I enjoyed the read immensely. You fail to understand the fact that the favorites do not always win. With your superior knowledge and remarkable understanding of the sport I'm sure you can recall and explain who and how a person who wrestled JV all season won a state championship by beating the kid who was ranked #1 all season in the finals. Without wrestling a Varsity match before regionals?  A hint: the Kid he beat was named Cooper and he was from Simon Kenton.

 It would not be even remotely as big of a upset if Vasquez beats Erdman considering he has more State titles to start with.  And it would not even be surprising to me to see neither of them win. Stranger things have happened young Jedi.

 And finally, if you are so sure of your predictions, I will gladly wager a C note on the field. You can enrich yourself from your unequaled knowledge and insight......  By the way, I will refer to you henceforth by the last  syllable of your pen name: BOY

How many email addresses does this dude have?

 "It would not be even remotely as big of a upset if Vasquez beats Erdman considering he has more State titles to start with.  And it would not even be surprising to me to see neither of them win. Stranger things have happened young Jedi."

I believe they have the same.  State Runner Up.  State Title.

My mistake, Angel lost to Fausz when he was a sophomore.  And I would guess the reason he is ranked above Erdman is because he is returning 138lb. Champion and Logan is moving up 2 weight classes.  But I cannot dismiss AJ or Trent Johnson either. Heck even

Brian Spahr has an outside chance, albeit remote in this field.

All great kids.

First Thing First ,i dont care if your Great great great great Grandma came across on the Mayflower wearing a singlet  and you have ten dozen yard ape grandkids  wrestling,Your not in the Nature Boys League .

amazing you mean some kid actually beat a cooper ,You mean a kid didnt wrestle untill Regionals and won a State title "something that is againts khsaa rules "

Get real i know two kids who didnt wrestle a match in 2012 and couldnt even practice till the week of regionals and walked all over State in 2012 fastest pin most pins and both even wrestled well above their cert weight one a frosh beating a sr returning Champ ,and oh yeah .... they both have wins over a cooper in their careers not sure what all that fuss was about or what your point was with all that ?

Lets get something straight theres those that talk the talk and those that walk the walk and the rare breed that does Both and that would be "The Nature Boy" and you would be the neither .

Your already making false comments and having to apologize for them because you dont know Squat about the kids in the sport or what it takes to be the CHAMP And everyone knows in the sport of wrestling in this state the Nature Boy is the MAN The Heartbreaker trainer of the  Record MAKER and your just a faker.

You see you read my over the top comments but they are all Factual as far fetched and fun as they may sound ,And i do not comment or throw praise around lightly so if you think there are four wrestlers in KY in his weight class who can BEAT my man Erdman i would gladly bet you a C note x 10 your a free for all between 4 or 5 wrestlers was your exact words so lets hear the four who can Beat Erdman ,you hiding behind the fact that the KY tournament isnt seeded properly is a joke if Erdman and Vasquez are on the same side one wouldnt be the Champ and there are others in the class but only 2 with their credentials .

Now is the part where i have to bury you and your miniscule knowledge of the wrestlers themselves ,Logan has set his standards higher than any sr wrestler i know currently wrestling in NKY actually all of KY he trained with the best all across the country for years and while i do not know for certain what he is up to currently im sure he is hard at Work ,Saw him at swowca take a close loss and come back and major the same kid its a lesson, losses happen but early in the year coming back and winning like that is something that pays off at the end .As a youth spending time at Jordans or Mirons or in Michigan at Camps with kids like Mark Hall i doubt young Mr Erdman was worried about what anyones predictions were for him his Sr yr were he was more concerned with winning and getting better while the rest of those four kids you think can hang with him were somewhere in ky probably watching spongebob or dragon ball Z .And while most of them are hiding deep in KY and trying to get pumped up for a go at state Erdman is getting prepared for a Run at OU lol 

Whoooooooooooo

Hey.............Boy..........You going to take that bet and give me the field?  or are you just going to babble your usual dribble. I know someone we are both familiar with who might hold the dough till after state. winner can ride the other like a pony. come on, your the one said Logan's a lock didn't ya?

2 hours ago, PinAndWin said:

All great kids.

Agreed.......Fine young men one and all

My apologies to the hard working young men in this sport.  I should have never commented.  

...

1 hour ago, BootsN said:

I will take that bet Depperschmidt. In fact, you only have to come up with $10 and I will lay $100.   Caveat though, I say Logan wins by major or better in the Finals.  He does that, you owe me $200.  He doesn't win by a major or better, I lose the bet.

He will be the State Champ at 138.

You say by major. Logans a stud. One of my bestfriends. Name whatever amount of money you want to. If i make the finals wont be a major. 138 is a wide open strong field. Gice credit wheres its due. Im not chopped liver bro

Sincerely,

Aj bindner fc 138

^^^Heard you were out for the rest of the season. Guess not. Glad your back. Your coach is one of a kind.

Name a weight class thats harder to win than 138.

Angel v 2 time state finalist state champ

Logan erdman 2 time state finalist state champ

Aj bindner - state runner up never lost to keegan by more than 2

Trent johnson- tough kid. 4Th i believe? Beaten vasquez already

So lets not be so quick to jump on who will win much less by a major? Put your money where your mouth is.

The talent is tough at 138.

Give you the field hunh Arent you just a brave little soldier ,Pick your four since you claimed it was a five man field and anyone could win or pick your guy and we will bet as for you riding the Nature Boy I don't think so sweetpea in my part of the County we don't roll that way ,And as for you claiming to know as much as me any day you want to compare trophy cases let me know i am the Nature Boy i breath Gold and you don't come close i have trained kids who won state titles their first year at age six and it only got better and bigger afterwards You Can take a knock here or there but you Or no one else will ever match The best Laid plans of The Nature Boy you could have a hundred grand kids and still couldn't come close and if you could you would only be second and not the First ,

A tough Class i agree I will take Erdman not saying he will major or pin through not to many Phenoms out there and i didn't say i trained him from day 1 lol but he is my friend and hes going to WIN ,

2 hours ago, NatureBoy said:

Give you the field hunh Arent you just a brave little soldier ,Pick your four since you claimed it was a five man field and anyone could win or pick your guy and we will bet as for you riding the Nature Boy I don't think so sweetpea in my part of the County we don't roll that way ,And as for you claiming to know as much as me any day you want to compare trophy cases let me know i am the Nature Boy i breath Gold and you don't come close i have trained kids who won state titles their first year at age six and it only got better and bigger afterwards You Can take a knock here or there but you Or no one else will ever match The best Laid plans of The Nature Boy you could have a hundred grand kids and still couldn't come close and if you could you would only be second and not the First ,

A tough Class i agree I will take Erdman not saying he will major or pin through not to many Phenoms out there and i didn't say i trained him from day 1 lol but he is my friend and hes going to WIN ,

Why do you keep talking in third person "the nature boy" like yes we see you've commented you don't have to keep reiterating yourself over and over again. But if you say you have as much experience as you do. You should know that anyone can be beat on any day. Dan gable was never suppose to be beat and lost. Now don't get me wrong Erdman is an awesome kid and an awesome wrestler. But Binder, Vasquez, and Johnson have all been training hard and long for this. The only person that doesn't know how it feels to be in the pressure of the high school state finals is Johnson. But he's been in enough finals to know it's no big deal. The semi matches at 138 will be the best matches of the day at the state tournament. 

"If I say I have as much experience as I do" Who the heck do you think your talking to pal? IM "THE NATURE BOY"you don't question me you simply set back and admire because that's all you or anyone else has ever been able to do , I set back do work and create magic perfection that leaves everyone wondering just how the H@## that just happened .

And no the semis matches are just that "SEMI "matches that lead up to finals everyone has been training hard I guess , all depends on what you consider hard or what they are actually doing im not certain I do not follow every High School wrestler around and neither do you , what some think is hard others laugh at and consider a warm up and training hard for a year or a month or a few months does not add up to YEARS of training hard travelling and being trained and training with the best , although I love the thought of the darkhorse who is training hard on their own or without the advantage of great rooms and partners , the reality is that those who get the advantages or have the advantages of being trained by the best will usually rise .

As I have said Erdman has trained with the best and made the sacrifices over the years went through the mental and physical wars that forge a real Champion ,worked his way up and is now setting on the verge of being a legend a 2 x champ ,looks like its going to be a great class with all the hoopla and talent and backstory to create an OW at state perhaps ,

the fact is you or no one else except me has a clue how it is going to turn out , Erdman moving up a class Vasquez being so dominant and at his weight Binder being a loose canon and no one knowing how he will do or which Binder will show up or how he will do at this weight and Johnson who I have seen but have no clue about fact is the only thing for Certain is everyone is wondering and it could be anything from a tight race to a complete blowout ,like Erdman showed everyone last year ,the boy left everyone wondering what the H he even did and was that even legal hahhahaha  seriously when a kid leaves most of a state coaches included dumbfounded it says a lot either good on his part or bad on most of the states , it reminded me of that old Steve Martin skit on SNL where he  said What the H was that , What the H is that ,What the H WAS that over and over hahahahah

tilt after tilt after tilt score after score , was it the same move or wasn't it was it legal after letting his opponent base up or not who knows DOESNT matter he smoked everyone lol

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

7 hours ago, NatureBoy said:

 

tilt after tilt after tilt score after score , was it the same move or wasn't it was it legal after letting his opponent base up or not who knows DOESNT matter he smoked everyone lol

 

Yes this is the debate. Was it legal Yes no doubt. Was it the same move. Hmmm that is in question.  Not much different than having a thread tilting the guy allowing him back to his base without letting the arm go. Then tilting again.  I have seen it called both ways.  I personally believe it is the same move and should be called such in both cases.  But I will allow the NWCA make that call. 

As for Erdman I agree he has to be the leading favorite in the class.  Will he dominate?  I believe so untill the semi or finals.  Not that he wont win by 3 or 4 but probably not a major.  However I would not be surprised if it was or more.  

I also know that deppersmchmidt is just as wild, mean, and crazy as you are Nature Boy (This is not a knock).  That is why it is fun to watch the two of you verbally combat.  He has is own credetials from the stone age with a state runner up wrestling medal.  And you have your own in wrestling medals from others you helped. Which is more prestigious that is for others to judge. 

As usuall these are the opinions of GOO (with a few facts this time), nothing more nothing less.  You can take them or leave them it all means oh so very little in the grand sceme of things. 

GOO out. 

Well like I said the kid left everyone wondering what the heck he did was it legal or not what the H was that hahahahahahah

A real state runner up medal WOW amazing from the stone age LOL I saw my son as a freshman break a former multiple x heavy state champ from cc down completely hitting moves he didn't even know the names too , im sure it would have been worse with deppershmitt ,im sorry there is no comparison to someone like him and myself I have fun and throw some craziness inn but most of my comments are factual like all the smack I talked about the pro wrestlers ,All True .

I can google deppershmitts name and see well nothing .I can google my friends name that I trained kids names that I trained my wifes name that I trained and see what they have done in various sports in the real world on state and national levels not inside the closed wrestling world of KY wrestling ,And no I didn't wrestle couldn't changed schools to often but I have more than a few state records and titles in my background  ,I doubt you really know much about me to begin with lol

a runner up title from when the field was half the sise it is now doesn't really impress me .

Vazquez has lost once this year @152. Erdman has lost twice this year @138. The loss Vazquez took he avenged. Erdman's loss to Ryan Ford is no issue, he's legit. He did lose however to Pulaski from Centreville. Pulaski is currently unranked in Ohio. Yes, Ohio wrestling stronger than Ky. but Centreville is not even an above average team in Ohio. It is important to note did avenge this loss as well. It seems to me that this match is going to be one of the most highly anticipated matches at state. However there is no guarantee that this will be the match as 138 is highly talented.

1 hour ago, NatureBoy said:

Well like I said the kid left everyone wondering what the heck he did was it legal or not what the H was that hahahahahahah

A real state runner up medal WOW amazing from the stone age LOL I saw my son as a freshman break a former multiple x heavy state champ from cc down completely hitting moves he didn't even know the names too , im sure it would have been worse with deppershmitt ,im sorry there is no comparison to someone like him and myself I have fun and throw some craziness inn but most of my comments are factual like all the smack I talked about the pro wrestlers ,All True .

When has Campbell Co. had a multiple time state champion heavyweight??

14 minutes ago, wrestlefever said:

 

I'd say the closest Campbell Co. has ever had to back to back state champions at heavyweight would be Mason Franck. He was runner up as a junior and champ as a senior.

Lol i guess trent johnson and i should just roll over and quit now. States decided. Its done state champ logan. Runner up angel v. How about we let state decide who wins it. We havent even seen the drae of the tournament yet haha! I will gaurentee you this everyone of us will have a 2 point match between angel logan and myself. Watch and see

1 hour ago, wrestlefever said:

Vazquez has lost once this year @152. Erdman has lost twice this year @138. The loss Vazquez took he avenged. Erdman's loss to Ryan Ford is no issue, he's legit. He did lose however to Pulaski from Centreville. Pulaski is currently unranked in Ohio. Yes, Ohio wrestling stronger than Ky. but Centreville is not even an above average team in Ohio. It is important to note did avenge this loss as well. It seems to me that this match is going to be one of the most highly anticipated matches at state. However there is no guarantee that this will be the match as 138 is highly talented.

Perspective...Logan was down 4-3 on Ford with about 30 ticks left and Ford was stalling like a mother. Logan was called for an illegal hold and two unnecessary roughness calls. Which made it 8-3.  Illegal hold was bogus.  2 hard cross faces were borderline. He got beat but that match was anyones down to the end. The paluska kid was a quality wrestler. Logan was the 1 seed.  Paluska was his first match.  He overlooked the kid. Wouldn't warm up.  What can I say....it was a learning experience.  He beat him easily for 3rd.  Both angel and mason were wrestling up the week mason beat him fairly handedly.  Mason wrestled a not very smart match at the rumble in my opinion.  Angel is too good tone not be on your A game.  Angel, AJ and Trent are all studs and it's going to be a very fun weight class to watch come state time.

Mat Shear was an upper weight champ not sure if he won once or twice or what weight doesn't really matter when ATM beat him he weighed around 300 and ATM had just certified for 180 whatever that was and was barely over 2 , As I said im sure it will be good , As for Centerville they are definatly an above average team in ohio they are big school  they wrestle year round and every style and have kids currently wrestling D! who graduated from there one of whom will be Erdmans teammate at OU ,The Nature Boy ,Knows wrestling ....

And Logan majored that Centerville kid

Whoooooooo

Shearer was 5th in state at 185 his Jr. year and undifeated state champ at 185 his sr. year. He lost in the 1st round his sophmore year and not pulled back into the tourney.  The tourney was a follow your man (1st round).  Which means if the person you lost to looses his next match your out of the tourney. 

Easy to look up. 

10 hours ago, NatureBoy said:

Mat Shear was an upper weight champ not sure if he won once or twice or what weight doesn't really matter when ATM beat him he weighed around 300 and ATM had just certified for 180 whatever that was and was barely over 2 , As I said im sure it will be good , As for Centerville they are definatly an above average team in ohio they are big school  they wrestle year round and every style and have kids currently wrestling D! who graduated from there one of whom will be Erdmans teammate at OU ,The Nature Boy ,Knows wrestling ....

And Logan majored that Centerville kid

Whoooooooo

No. Centreville is not an above average school. It's amazing how it matters when you think it is true, but when you get called out on the hyperbole it doesn't matter anymore.

If the NatureBoy says Centerville is an above average school then you can take it to the bank ,wrestlefever ,if you think most of the teams in KY could beat Centerville then you have been dumped on your head to many times which is almost a certainty since your trying to debate the Natureboy and that in itself shows how deficient you are in wrestling knowledge ,

I guess your trying to measure up Centerville and in doing so compare the wrestler that beat Erdman to the level that you are trying to hold his school to and in doing so claim erdman lost to a sub average wrestler hahahahahhaha that's pathetic ,you need to go back to psychology 101 because no one on this forum would fall for that .

Now Erdman losses to a kid from Centerville a school you claim is sub average and in doing so by association you assume we will all believe Erdman is sub average hahahhhhah '

let me guess Vasquez lost to a national champ from Blair Right hahahah. more likely some no name from mudlick ky or hogwhistle Indiana because I do not see him or his school wrestling any national contender teams .

if your going to throw stones you better reinforce your glass walls

14 hours ago, supernat said:

I'd say the closest Campbell Co. has ever had to back to back state champions at heavyweight would be Mason Franck. He was runner up as a junior and champ as a senior.

I would say a back to back to back to back to back to back back to back to back to back to back to back Champ who ended at 220 would be close to a back to back heavy champ but what do I know.

And if CC former champs like to brag and add a weight class and a title don't shoot the messenger , Regardless you get my meaning im sure and don't take it wrong or take it however you like ,the fresh I mentioned could have taken out a few former 2x heavy champs from ky just as easily ,

Its easily he had the credentials .

Its easy to look up !

Same diatribe, different day. I stand by what I said.

LOL you should its a good point ,Ask Frank about wrestling ATM .

24 minutes ago, NatureBoy said:

 

Centreville is ok. Not great but ok.

35 minutes ago, NatureBoy said:

If the NatureBoy says Centerville is an above average school then you can take it to the bank ,wrestlefever ,if you think most of the teams in KY could beat Centerville then you have been dumped on your head to many times which is almost a certainty since your trying to debate the Natureboy and that in itself shows how deficient you are in wrestling knowledge ,

I guess your trying to measure up Centerville and in doing so compare the wrestler that beat Erdman to the level that you are trying to hold his school to and in doing so claim erdman lost to a sub average wrestler hahahahahhaha that's pathetic ,you need to go back to psychology 101 because no one on this forum would fall for that .

Now Erdman losses to a kid from Centerville a school you claim is sub average and in doing so by association you assume we will all believe Erdman is sub average hahahhhhah '

let me guess Vasquez lost to a national champ from Blair Right hahahah. more likely some no name from mudlick ky or hogwhistle Indiana because I do not see him or his school wrestling any national contender teams .

if your going to throw stones you better reinforce your glass walls

2015 Ohio High School Division I Team Scores
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  1. Lakewood St. Edward                111.5
  2. Elyria                              97.0
  3. Massillon Perry                     85.5
  4. Brecksville-Broad. Hts.             74.0
  5. Wadsworth                           68.0
  6. Perrysburg                          60.5
  7. Uniontown Lake                      59.0
  8. Oregon Clay                         47.0
  9. Powell Olen. Liberty                45.5
 10. Marysville                          44.0
 11. Lewis Center Olentangy              43.0
 12. Gr. City Central Crossing           42.0
 13. Brunswick                           41.5
 14. Mason                               41.0
 15. Cin. Arch. Moeller                  40.0
 16. Olmsted Falls                       31.0
 17. Lorain                              28.0
     Pickerington North                  28.0
 19. Mount Vernon                        27.0
 20. Cin. St. Xavier                     26.0
 21. Massillon Washington                24.0
     White. Anthony Wayne                24.0
 23. Cuy. Falls Walsh Jesuit             23.5
 24. Clayton Northmont                   22.0
     Dublin Coffman                      22.0
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 27. Col. St. Charles                    19.5
 28. Lancaster                           19.0
 29. Wester. North                       18.0
 30. Cin. Sycamore                       16.0
 31. Massillon Jackson                   15.5
 32. Worth. Kilbourne                    15.0
     Xenia                               15.0
 34. Dresden Tri-Valley                  14.0
     Mansfield Senior                    14.0
 36. Delaware Hayes                      13.0
 37. Middletown                          12.0
 38. Macedonia Nordonia                  11.0
     Parma Hts. Valley Forge             11.0
 40. Mayfield Vill. Mayfield             10.5
 41. Riverside Stebbins                  10.0
 42. Hilliard Davidson                    9.5
 43. Ashville Teays Valley                9.0
     Cle. St. Ignatius                    9.0
     Green                                9.0
 46. Hilliard Bradley                     8.0
     N. Olmsted                           8.0
     Worth. Thom. Worthington             8.0
 49. Kettering Fairmont                   7.0
     Loveland                             7.0
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 52. Parma                                5.5
 53. Copley                               5.0
     Dublin Scioto                        5.0
     Pataskala Watkins Mem.               5.0
     Young. Boardman                      5.0
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     Cin. Glen Este                       4.0
     Harrison                             4.0
     Maple Hts.                           4.0
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     Piqua                                4.0
 63. Akron Firestone                      3.0
     Cin. Princeton                       3.0
     Pataskala Licking Hts.               3.0
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     Zanesville                           3.0
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     Austintown-Fitch                     2.0
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     Cin. Elder                           2.0
     Cin. Northwest                       2.0
     Findlay                              2.0
     Twinsburg                            2.0
 75. Ashtabula Lakeside                   1.0
     Chardon                              1.0
     Cin. LaSalle                         1.0
     Cin. Oak Hills                       1.0
     Dublin Jerome                        1.0
     Fairfield                            1.0
     Hilliard Darby                       1.0
     N. Canton Hoover                     1.0
     Solon                                1.0

Here's the D-1 results from last year in Ohio. Where's Centreville????????  An above average team would certainly be in the top 20?? Can't find them...Me neither. Don't let the facts stand in the way of your story. Better start reinforcing that house.

lol you see LaSalle there at 75 with 1 point , you better go to the latest ky results and see how they did against a top ten team in Ky ,or would do against any of them !!

My house is solid as are my picks and comments ,You see all those schools you listed people from my house have beaten kids from all of them over and over   that's as solid as it gets and your point about Centerville who has produced state champs and D 1wrestlers and athletes is far fetched at best ,the kid who Erdman barely lost to then majored would be a multiple x state placer in KY , that's not average .We will see whos house is glass at state ,As for my own its made out of GOLD baby hahahahahaha

As for average theres 75 schools on that list , that's not half the d1 schools in ohio genius

1 hour ago, supernat said:

Centreville is ok. Not great but ok.

Agreed, the whole point was what was the purpose of stating they were less than average when talking about erdmans loss to one of their wrestlers lol an obvious attempt to connect the two the loss with centervilles less than stellar team ,How many state champs have wrestled for less than average teams ,

How many ky wrestlers could beat that Centerville Kid who Erdman majored ??????less than average  I would say ,

5 minutes ago, NatureBoy said:

lol you see LaSalle there at 75 with 1 point , you better go to the latest ky results and see how they did against a top ten team in Ky ,or would do against any of them !!

My house is solid as are my picks and comments ,You see all those schools you listed people from my house have beaten kids from all of them over and over   that's as solid as it gets and your point about Centerville who has produced state champs and D 1wrestlers and athletes is far fetched at best ,the kid who Erdman barely lost to then majored would be a multiple x state placer in KY , that's not average .We will see whos house is glass at state ,As for my own its made out of GOLD baby hahahahahaha

As for average theres 75 schools on that list , that's not half the d1 schools in ohio genius

Thanks for the compliment!! D1 wrestling in central Ohio is the weakest part of the state. Once again I've used facts to support myself. All you do is provide opinion. Centreville has all the potential in the world. They are not above average though.

Any time anyone disagrees with you on this site, you resort to ad hominem attacks. If you would support yourself with actual facts people might be more inclined to agree with you. I know you don't really care if people disagree with you or not. The same way I don't care if you agree with me or not. I'll continue to provide facts and knowledgeable information.

That's uhhh fine lol as I said how many kids in ky could beat the kid erdman majored from Centerville , I didn't attack anyone I made statements , bragging and attacking are two different things I have no wish to attack anyone unless someone makes statements attacking me or my friends or with the purpose of making slight of their accomplishments or ability ,someone saying Centerville is a less than average team when talking about a ky kid losing to one of their wrestlers is an attempt to knock them someone posting top 75 teams in ohio and trying to debate me when one of the lowest teams on that list would probably beat every team in ky simply proves my point ,Centerville has produced wrestlers that would be multiple x state champs in ky and the kid who beat Erdman would be a ky placer that is not average ,And Centerville produces pro athletes that is not average either ,

don't get mad at me because Casey Cornett is going to stomp everyone its not my fault go pick on combs or the other SK coaches hahahahahahahahah

6 minutes ago, NatureBoy said:

That's uhhh fine lol as I said how many kids in ky could beat the kid erdman majored from Centerville , I didn't attack anyone I made statements , bragging and attacking are two different things I have no wish to attack anyone unless someone makes statements attacking me or my friends or with the purpose of making slight of their accomplishments or ability ,someone saying Centerville is a less than average team when talking about a ky kid losing to one of their wrestlers is an attempt to knock them someone posting top 75 teams in ohio and trying to debate me when one of the lowest teams on that list would probably beat every team in ky simply proves my point ,Centerville has produced wrestlers that would be multiple x state champs in ky and the kid who beat Erdman would be a ky placer that is not average ,And Centerville produces pro athletes that is not average either ,

No it's not an attempt at either. It's a statement of fact. You may not like that but it is what it is. I think Erdman is a great wrestler who represents this state with class. He got beat. If you can't handle that it's not my issue. You can continue to deny whatever you want. I've never said anything about anyone personally. I've stated fact after fact.

You continue to provide factual information if that's what floats your boat ,In the meantime I will continue to take up for kids being ambushed and enjoy the glory and benefits of being The Nature Boy .

Not going to lie I would like to see Erdman Vasquez and Binder all win state titles all hungry young athletes

its not that I don't like any fact about Centerville its the attempt to use assumed facts to insinuate falsehoods I do not like ,and the fact is that Centerville kid would stomp mudholes in 90 percent of kids in ky at his weight regardless of his team so what was the point and don't get me wrong I follow a few kids and try to be a ky supporter knocking an ohio team who managed to have a kid beat a ky champ is basically a knock on ky , either way you or your comments do not mean squat to me my friends will win they always do in the end because well I exude an aura of greatness that envelopes those around me who are wise enough to take up my good habits that being , Winning

5 minutes ago, wrestlefever said:

 

Here's where you personally ambushed Vazquez, Johnson and Bindner. I stated a fact that he lost twice to wrestlers in Ohio. Here is where you made stuff up about three fine young men and disparaged their abilities. Once again, don't let the truth get in the way of your story.

 

That's strange I didn't read where I mentioned anyones names at all other than erdman and Iwhen Erdman was in about the third grade hanging out with Mark Hall at camps up in Michigan with my own brood those other kids could have been home watching dragon ball z and spongebob like I said probably , whats your point how is that an attack , are you saying they never watched dragon ball z or spongebob because I don't belive that .

you have a long way to go to be on the Nature boys level , in fact im just going to say it , give it up you cant get here from there your to slow and im to fast and talented to waste my time with you ,go argue with the kindygartners im going to go play with the grown ups and champs .Nature Boy whoooooooooooo

2 minutes ago, NatureBoy said:

its not that I don't like any fact about Centerville its the attempt to use assumed facts to insinuate falsehoods I do not like ,and the fact is that Centerville kid would stomp mudholes in 90 percent of kids in ky at his weight regardless of his team so what was the point and don't get me wrong I follow a few kids and try to be a ky supporter knocking an ohio team who managed to have a kid beat a ky champ is basically a knock on ky , either way you or your comments do not mean squat to me my friends will win they always do in the end because well I exude an aura of greatness that envelopes those around me who are wise enough to take up my good habits that being , Winning

Once again, you don't address the argument. The only person on this thread who has "ambushed" or talked negatively about anyone is you. Address the fact that you knocked numerous Ky. wrestlers. Someone who supports Ky. wrestling wouldn't do that. I'll re-iterate for the 3rd time I think Erdman is the man. You mention assumed facts and insinuate falsehoods, then you go on to do that in your own post. I've bolded that part for you. Since I've proceeded to stomp a mudhole in every argument you've made today. I'm going to take a break from Kentucky Wrestling and enjoy my "aura of greatness" that has enveloped me after "winning" this argument".

Bravo wrestlefever!

What in the world is going on here? Wrestlefever wins this debate.

LOL this debates winner will be decided at state uk pride , don't fool yourself

And the odds favor ....You know it ,,,,The Nature Boy

Your ways can't be perfect because your warriors didn't win every battle. 

Yes, as a matter of fact that is what I must now go to do. I'm happy to leave the confines of my comfortable abode, out in the blowing snow.

To do my part in providing you with the electricity you need to keep pecking away on your keyboard, and lights and heat in the gym. My small contribution to all of you.

that's funny I thought I did not work why would I be setting here at the gym lol 

you talking to me Foxtrot because let me tell you as far as winning percentage goes it doesn't get much better than four undefeated seasons and avenging your only folk style loss that occurred in the finals of Nationals at the next years national finals by a bigger score ,as for the only other loss in an exhibition a few days after your state tournament against a kid in a heavier class who just recently got devestated and knocked out of your last tournament by someone you sent to consoles ,it doesn't get any better not will you ever see the day his records get eclipsed by anyone in the state ,whoooooooo

Now the Nature Boy is fired up State titles National titles owe high flying Limo riding kiss stealing wheelin dealin son of a gun whoooooo and that's the Bottom line Four as in titles baby 

Oh geesh I thought all this nonesense was over after last year.  

I will say this however.  A good coach never takes credit for his athletes wins.  He allows his athletes to take the credit for own their wins. He only takes credit for thier losses. Then he goes back to the practice room and helps them correct their mistakes. 

3 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

Oh geesh I thought all this nonesense was over after last year.  

 

I will say this however.  A good coach never takes credit for his athletes wins.  He allows his athletes to take the credit for own their wins. He only takes credit for thier losses. Then he goes back to the practice room and helps them correct their mistakes. 

I was under the impression that every adult who has coached knew this. Apparently not. 

That's what I thought goo and the good old boys out , gone with the wind like deppershmitt bulldogleader and all the rest blown away by the winds of Change to be long Forgotten ,Replaced  and outdone by .The Nature Boys ,Boys hahahahaha

When will new rankings come out?

18 hours ago, 385 said:

I was under the impression that every adult who has coached knew this. Apparently not. 

Key word in your statement is ADULT

Guys you are far worse than Nature Boy would ever dream of being, because you antagonize him.  Grow up.

Any chance next year you could include what district/region everyone is and key win/loses like how Indianamat.com does theirs. I think you do an outstanding job would clear up a lot of who beat who. And lock the thread.

I was missing all this stuff this year. 

Just curious when you estimate the new rankings may be posted

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/27/undefeated-wrestler-delivers-dream-win-for-opponent-with-down-syndrome.html?intcmp=hplnws

Hope this defeat does not hurt his ranking to bad.

2 hours ago, depperschmidt said:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/27/undefeated-wrestler-delivers-dream-win-for-opponent-with-down-syndrome.html?intcmp=hplnws

Hope this defeat does not hurt his ranking to bad.

Odds are he is a god kid who doesn't worry about rankings.  Props for having compassion!  

Max Andreoni took a huge loss last night at state duals to Hudson Heidorf.

I wouldn't call it a huge loss. #1 and #2 kids in the state both with national accolades. I would say this was a 50/50 match to begin with. Hudson and Max are both on another level. Something tells me they will see each other again. 

It was a nice little sneak peak for the state tournament for sure

Totally agree!

Were there any other 1 v 2 matches throughout the day

There was Saul Ervin from Union County Vs. Ryan Moore from Walton Verona and Saul just dominated the match. I think the final score was 8-2. Saul also ended up pinning #6 Dallas Oschenbein from North Oldham.

There was a bunch of #2 Vs. #3. Jackson Oxford ended up pinning Mason Smith I think it was first period. And then Collin Portman ended up pinning Connor Sherman.

Has a 7th grader ever won state in Kentucky? I'm thinking of a few placers. 

3 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

Has a 7th grader ever won state in Kentucky? I'm thinking of a few placers. 

Mark Hall

Hall was runner up in ky as a 7th grader

Josh Robbins (Boyle) beat Matt Steven (LaRue) last night at small school 12-5, pretty impressive considering that Matt beat him pretty bad the first time they wrestled

Also Max Andreoni and Hudson Heidorf may meet again at the mustang classic next weekend.

5 hours ago, 385 said:

Mark Hall

Yes, Hall lost to Bradbury as a 7th grader.  Hall had beaten Bradbury in the Dragon finals earlier in the year, both tight matches.  Hall then moved to Minnesota where he repeated the 7th grade and won a state championship there.  I believe he has won them all since, giving him a chance to be a 6-timer in Minnesota, which is definitely a couple tiers up from Kentucky.

12 hours ago, TheBeardedOne said:

Hall was runner up in ky as a 7th grader

Whoops. Thought Hall actually won state here as a 7th grader. I was on deployment most of both 2010 and 2011 so I wasn't very familiar then, or 2009 or 2012 really. 

Not sure Andrioni will be able to wrestle.  He illegally slammed a kid from OC and the kid couldn't continue.  I thought the rules state if this happens the wrestler must sit out the next tourney.

On 1/31/2016 at 10:04 AM, KYW said:

Max Andreoni took a huge loss last night at state duals to Hudson Heidorf.

Definitely wouldn't call that a huge loss, both kids are great.  That was a great match, best match I was able to watch at the tournament for sure.  Both guys fended off takedowns in the last minute from each other.  Man was it good.  It will be good to see these two go at it again.

23 hours ago, Zorgon2118 said:

There was Saul Ervin from Union County Vs. Ryan Moore from Walton Verona and Saul just dominated the match. I think the final score was 8-2. Saul also ended up pinning #6 Dallas Oschenbein from North Oldham.

 

120 looked to be a really tight 8-9 man race for most of mid season. Moore and Ervin have distanced themselves from the pack and now Ervin is as solid on top of the rankings as he was to start the year. 3rd place is still really tight though.

14 minutes ago, firemans34 said:

Not sure Andrioni will be able to wrestle.  He illegally slammed a kid from OC and the kid couldn't continue.  I thought the rules state if this happens the wrestler must sit out the next tourney.

Thats only if they are kicked out of tournament for unsportsmanlike conduct. An illegal slam only makes you lose the match. If he had another match that day he can still wrestle 

Any idea when new rankings will be out. 

There's not really very many changes to be made as far as I know. I'd say these rankings are pretty indicative. 

5 minutes ago, 385 said:

There's not really very many changes to be made as far as I know. I'd say these rankings are pretty indicative. 

Regions are two weeks away...really no need for any rankings changes until then.

2 hours ago, FalconWrestling said:

120 looked to be a really tight 8-9 man race for most of mid season. Moore and Ervin have distanced themselves from the pack and now Ervin is as solid on top of the rankings as he was to start the year. 3rd place is still really tight though.

I feel like those two guys have been clear top 2 all season. Wells and Hurst a solid #3 and #4 but neither has beaten Saul or Moore.  Then after #4 big drop off to Cook, Oschenbein, etc.  This bracket is all about draw to determine finals but I don't see anyone beating Saul.

There will be some ranking changes. Union County will have a top 5 106 and Avery Buckman is staying at 170, but that will all come out this weekend. 

6 hours ago, coachteater said:

Thats only if they are kicked out of tournament for unsportsmanlike conduct. An illegal slam only makes you lose the match. If he had another match that day he can still wrestle 

Thx!  Glad to know that.  Selfishly I'd like to see them go at it again.  Max is a good kid too, so no malice intended when throwing question out there.

On 2/1/2016 at 2:14 PM, WristControl said:

 

I feel like those two guys have been clear top 2 all season. Wells and Hurst a solid #3 and #4 but neither has beaten Saul or Moore.  Then after #4 big drop off to Cook, Oschenbein, etc.  This bracket is all about draw to determine finals but I don't see anyone beating Saul.

Cook lost to Moore by 2 I believe in OT at the Rumble. Great match.  I don't believe he has wrestled the other 3 mentioned this year according to track. So to say its a big drop to #4 would be a stretch in my mind.  He's capable.

When will the new rankings be posted just curious because regionals is coming up and it would be nice to see some updated rankings

Casey Cornett-SK beats Chris Morrow-Madison Central 7-3 at JTown Duals.

Heidorf a no show at mustang?? 

37 minutes ago, sting said:

Heidorf a no show at mustang?? 

I spoke to Andreoni's dad and he said the whole team didn't attend, I think... or he may just have been referring to Heidorf.

On 2/4/2016 at 3:34 PM, PinAndWin said:

Cook lost to Moore by 2 I believe in OT at the Rumble. Great match.  I don't believe he has wrestled the other 3 mentioned this year according to track. So to say its a big drop to #4 would be a stretch in my mind.  He's capable.

you're right. I shouldn't have said big drop after #4.   Dallas proved that this weekend.

On Friday, January 08, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Ranger123 said:

We had a nice little powow in the newly finished man cave and made a bunch of adjustments.  I'm sure there are more to come as some teams appear to be struggling to maintain their results on track.  A few notes and items of discussion we've talked about:

 

1) Union County is starting to look pretty strong and appears to be a true favorite at this point.  They seem to have the horses to run with Trinity, but also a few more role players that will score for them.

2) 106 is filling out into a strong weight.  Early on it didn't look like nearly the same depth that we saw last season, but it is starting to look pretty strong again this year with 10-12 very good kids.  Wheeler keeps winning.  Yost looked great at WCI.  Roth made the finals at GMV.  From the team race perspective, not sure who Union will put here.  If they find a kid that turns it on here, they could pull away from the field.

3) After 2 great matches with Duncan, it looks like Sheffer will finish the season at 128.  Also of note at 128, Castellano may be the most improved wrestler I have seen this year.

4) The top 6-7 kids at 138 will be fun to see battle it out; so many different styles and backgrounds.  Hopefully the state bracket is a fair draw.

5) This weight looks a bit different with Leak back on the mat and Oxford down from 152 (yes, Union Co has a number of kids on the drop).

6) 152/160  Those top 3 at each weight are some tough kids.

7) After Cornett we may be very surprised who ends up on the podium.

8) Giving Meiman another week to get back on the mat.  Same with the King brothers from JC.

9) If I was ever going to pick against my rankings to predict a state champ, Portman might be the guy right now.

10) Still awaiting the return of Landon Young.

11) Alert, for the first time since I can remember, Region 6 drops to 2nd in the state scoring.  Region 4 (Trinity, St X, Male, Central) is putting up some points and the depth isn't quite the same as in years past in Region 6.

WR Rankings 2015_16 JAN8.pdf

New rankings anytime soon or are these final