Great day of wrestling today as we had what was probably our first Bluegrass Youth State Dual hosted by John Hardin Bulldogs. Congratulations to Maritime Wrestling for going undefeated on the day and congrats to Jayden Raney of Maritime for being selected MOW, well deserved!

1st Place - Maritime Wrestling
2nd Place - River City Gold
3rd Place - Anderson County
4th Place - South Oldham
5th Place - Scott County Black
6th Place - Walton Verona
7th Place - MTS (Moore)
8th Place - John Hardin
9th Place - River City Green
10th Place - North Oldham
11th Place - Taylor County
12th Place - Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy
13th Place - ALL STARS
14th Place - Scott County Red
1st-4th
River City Gold defeated Anderson County 57-21.
Maritime Wrestling defeated South Oldham 55-18.
River City Gold defeated South Oldham 60-21.
Maritime Wrestling defeated Anderson County 59-30.
Maritime Wrestling defeated River City Gold 58-27.
Anderson County defeated South Oldham 48-33.

5th-8th
Walton Verona defeated MTS (Moore) 43-27.
Scott County Black defeated John Hardin 48-30.
Scott County Black defeated MTS (Moore) 42-22.
Walton Verona defeated John Hardin 39-37.
MTS (Moore) defeated John Hardin 42-27.
Scott County Black defeated Walton Verona 44-21.

Where is Maritime from?

1 minute ago, Jrodc said:

Where is Maritime from?

McCracken (Paducah)

Based on the teams that attended who was the best wrestler for each weight?

3 hours ago, wrestlef@n said:

Based on the teams that attended who was the best wrestler for each weight?

45

Brennen East of Walton Verona went 5-0 (All by Fall)

50

Barret Wells of River City Gold went 5-0

Xavier Bottoms of River City Green went 5-0

55

Shayne Stilts of MTS (Moore) went 6-0

60
Steven Brown of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 6-0

65

Jayden Raney of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0 (All by Fall)

70
Reese Mcgill of South Oldham went 6-0

Sophie Anderson of Walton Verona went 5-0 (All by Fall)

75
Hunter Schimming of Walton Verona went 5-0

Jordyn Raney of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

These two never met at the dual but my money would be on Raney after watching him wrestle

80
James Barragen of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

85
Jack James of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

90
Cam Stahley of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 4-0

95
Joshua Strayer of Anderson County went 5-0 (All by Fall)

100
Paxton Aldridge of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 6-0

105

Tucker Roth of River City Gold went 4-0

112
Luke Hyden of Walton Verona went 4-0

120
Gus Marble of River City Gold went 5-0

HWT
Caleb Burt of River City Green went 6-0

Dereyon Harris of John Hardin went 6-0

Isn't cam the 90 pounder from Tennessee?

7 hours ago, westKYwrestling said:

Isn't cam the 90 pounder from Tennessee?

Possibly, Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy did have a wrestler in their club that lived just across the border in Clarksville. His parents are probably stationed at Ft. Campbell. 

11 hours ago, jnv858 said:

45

 

Brennen East of Walton Verona went 5-0 (All by Fall)

 

50

 

Barret Wells of River City Gold went 5-0

 

Xavier Bottoms of River City Green went 5-0

 

55

 

Shayne Stilts of MTS (Moore) went 6-0

 

60
Steven Brown of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 6-0

 

65

 

Jayden Raney of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0 (All by Fall)

 

70
Reese Mcgill of South Oldham went 6-0

 

Sophie Anderson of Walton Verona went 5-0 (All by Fall)

75
Hunter Schimming of Walton Verona went 5-0

 

Jordyn Raney of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

 

These two never met at the dual but my money would be on Raney after watching him wrestle

80
James Barragen of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

 

85
Jack James of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

 

90
Cam Stahley of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 4-0

 

95
Joshua Strayer of Anderson County went 5-0 (All by Fall)

 

100
Paxton Aldridge of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 6-0

 

105

 

Tucker Roth of River City Gold went 4-0

 

112
Luke Hyden of Walton Verona went 4-0

 

120
Gus Marble of River City Gold went 5-0

 

HWT
Caleb Burt of River City Green went 6-0

 

Dereyon Harris of John Hardin went 6-0

 

Thanks! Looks like a good lineup for an elite dual team possibly?

1 hour ago, wrestlef@n said:

Thanks! Looks like a good lineup for an elite dual team possibly?

Oh yeah...good thinking..probably not bad idea. Keeping in mind all the teams were K-5th. 

Stahley kid is a really gifted wrestler but IMO he shouldn't have been allowed to wrestle at Kentucky Youth State Duals.  His profile on Track shows him from Clarksville, TN with most of his matches in TN.  Know it could be a place of residence matter (if his family stationed at Ft Campbell) though.

You would get better picture by going on track and looking at Weight Results to see who actually won matches. For example the HWT division. Maritime literally had a man child wrestling 

HWT Results
Caleb Burt of River City Green went 6-0
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) Fall 2:35
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) Fall 1:00

Dereyon Harris of John Hardin went 6-0
HWT - Dereyon Harris (John Hardin) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Dereyon Harris (John Hardin) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Dereyon Harris (John Hardin) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Dereyon Harris (John Hardin) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Dereyon Harris (John Hardin) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Dereyon Harris (John Hardin) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 

Uriah Virzi of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0
HWT - Uriah Virzi (Maritime Wrestling) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Uriah Virzi (Maritime Wrestling) over Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) Fall 0:34
HWT - Uriah Virzi (Maritime Wrestling) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Uriah Virzi (Maritime Wrestling) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Uriah Virzi (Maritime Wrestling) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 

Carter Guillaume of River City Gold went 4-1
HWT - Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Uriah Virzi (Maritime Wrestling) over Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) Fall 0:34
HWT - Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) over Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) Fall 0:21
HWT - Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) over Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) Fall 1:56
HWT - Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 

Maxwell Harrington of North Oldham went 3-2
HWT - Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) over Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) Fall 0:21
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) Fall 1:00
HWT - Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Maxwell Harrington (North Oldham) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 

Samuel Garrison of Anderson County went 3-2
HWT - Caleb Burt (River City Green) over Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) Fall 2:35
HWT - Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
HWT - Carter Guillaume (River City Gold) over Samuel Garrison (Anderson County) Fall 1:56

He was a big boy! 

18 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

Stahley kid is a really gifted wrestler but IMO he shouldn't have been allowed to wrestle at Kentucky Youth State Duals.  His profile on Track shows him from Clarksville, TN with most of his matches in TN.  Know it could be a place of residence matter (if his family stationed at Ft Campbell) though.

The tournament flyer mentions no residency requirements.

8 minutes ago, jnv858 said:

He was a big boy! 

Yet he only had one match all day and after seeing that match he would clearly out match any wrestlers in that division. I know the flyer said K-5 so is it possible he was older than the other kids but in the 5th grade? 

Understand.  Realize this was first year for event.  Maybe residency requirement area for improvement for next year.  Kind of defeats purpose of it being for Kentucky wrestlers.  Otherwise could have northern KY teams add a few ringers from Cincy to roster, or western KY teams add kids from Illinois, etc. just for the purpose of winning State Duals title.  Not saying those programs would ever do that.

Sounds like your state duals was a big success!  In Indiana the Elementary Team State Duals has become a destination event for clubs.  We didn't start out with 14 teams though.  Kudos to you all.  I think ours started with 8 teams originally.  The duals have become so popular with clubs that we went to a class system this year.  Large schools and small schools.

We had 16 teams represented by large schools and 7 represented by small schools.

Ours is K-6th (we allowed pre-K this year for the first time/hard to get those 40 lbers).

We allow 23 kids per team with 17 weight classes.

All kids must be from the school district of the club with exception to home schooled kids that live in the district or wrestlers that attend a private school but live within the district.

We essentially have 3 sizes of schools involved in wrestling in Indiana. 1A, 2A, and 3A.

For the Elem Team State meet we allow 3A schools 2 wildcards (kids outside of the club/district), 2A schools 3 wildcards, and 1A schools 4 wild cards.

We do a parade of teams before the national anthem.  Some clubs make banners or coat of arms.  Its really cool!

Personally I have seen tremendous growth in my wrestlers as they get competition early in the season.  My kids have about 20 matches in before the individual season starts.

Glad to hear that you guys had a successful tournament!

Keep growing wrestling in your state!

10 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

Understand.  Realize this was first year for event.  Maybe residency requirement area for improvement for next year.  Kind of defeats purpose of it being for Kentucky wrestlers.  Otherwise could have northern KY teams add a few ringers from Cincy to roster, or western KY teams add kids from Illinois, etc. just for the purpose of winning State Duals title.  Not saying those programs would ever do that.

It was a GREAT 1st year event! I loved introducing the kids to the team aspect of wrestling. They are so used to it being individual competition and as a parent it was fun to cheer whole team on. 

This may be for a different post but I think it would be good to have a disclaimer for the youth State events only (Duals and Individual), that if a wrestler has participated in 60% or more of his/her matches at MS level tourneys then he/she is ineligible for youth State events.  Understand the top 6 placer at MS State caveat.  There are points of discussion to be made for or against this viewpoint.   To me just a way to level the mat for kids who aren't yet ready for MS level competition and for those who are MS level/caliber.

4 minutes ago, carrir said:

It was a GREAT 1st year event! I loved introducing the kids to the team aspect of wrestling. They are so used to it being individual competition and as a parent it was fun to cheer whole team on. 

Totally agree

7 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

This may be for a different post but I think it would be good to have a disclaimer for the youth State events only (Duals and Individual), that if a wrestler has participated in 60% or more of his/her matches at MS level tourneys then he/she is ineligible for youth State events.  Understand the top 6 placer at MS State caveat.  There are points of discussion to be made for or against this viewpoint.   To me just a way to level the mat for kids who aren't yet ready for MS level competition and for those who are MS level/caliber.

http://nebula.wsimg.com/82ef613fd9ab9a8878252750075c7635?AccessKeyId=0CF9975BFCD43F3731F8&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

Youth State has residency requirements.

25 minutes ago, SeymourOwlsWrestling said:

Sounds like your state duals was a big success!  In Indiana the Elementary Team State Duals has become a destination event for clubs.  We didn't start out with 14 teams though.  Kudos to you all.  I think ours started with 8 teams originally.  The duals have become so popular with clubs that we went to a class system this year.  Large schools and small schools.

 

We had 16 teams represented by large schools and 7 represented by small schools.

Ours is K-6th (we allowed pre-K this year for the first time/hard to get those 40 lbers).

We allow 23 kids per team with 17 weight classes.

All kids must be from the school district of the club with exception to home schooled kids that live in the district or wrestlers that attend a private school but live within the district.

We essentially have 3 sizes of schools involved in wrestling in Indiana. 1A, 2A, and 3A.

For the Elem Team State meet we allow 3A schools 2 wildcards (kids outside of the club/district), 2A schools 3 wildcards, and 1A schools 4 wild cards.

We do a parade of teams before the national anthem.  Some clubs make banners or coat of arms.  Its really cool!

Personally I have seen tremendous growth in my wrestlers as they get competition early in the season.  My kids have about 20 matches in before the individual season starts.

 

Glad to hear that you guys had a successful tournament!

Keep growing wrestling in your state!

After talking to you about this at the Purler Camp you all hosted it became a goal for this year and continue to grow on...appreciate the information.

30 minutes ago, carrir said:

Yet he only had one match all day and after seeing that match he would clearly out match any wrestlers in that division. I know the flyer said K-5 so is it possible he was older than the other kids but in the 5th grade? 

I spoke to the Scott Raney from Maritime inquiring about him and Scott assured me he is a fifth grader just a freak of nature and I have no reason to ever question Scott. Because of his size and age they have a hard time finding him matches through out the year, when you look at him you would ask if he drove himself to the tournament but when you watch him interact with other kids and his teammates he acts like 11 y.o. / 5th grader. He could of definitely been older but I didn't ask teams to provide birth certificates for the event BUT maybe we add that next year just as we did for State this year. 

39 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

Understand.  Realize this was first year for event.  Maybe residency requirement area for improvement for next year.  Kind of defeats purpose of it being for Kentucky wrestlers.  Otherwise could have northern KY teams add a few ringers from Cincy to roster, or western KY teams add kids from Illinois, etc. just for the purpose of winning State Duals title.  Not saying those programs would ever do that.

High School doesn't have a residency requirement.  No sports do at the KHSAA level. For what its worth. 

11 minutes ago, wrestlef@n said:

http://nebula.wsimg.com/82ef613fd9ab9a8878252750075c7635?AccessKeyId=0CF9975BFCD43F3731F8&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

Youth State has residency requirements.

Not questioning the residency requirements.  I'll put my point another way.  The top 6 placers at MS State cannot participate at Youth State (per flyer).  No argument there.  However, for the other MS State participants who do not place in top 6, those hammers should not be allowed to wrestle in the Youth State tourney (regardless of age) UNLESS they have participated in less than 60% of MS matches/events.  Since most MS tourneys are on Track, this could be verified.  To me would keep competitive level at Youth State very close to what is seen at youth tourneys throughout season.

26 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

This may be for a different post but I think it would be good to have a disclaimer for the youth State events only (Duals and Individual), that if a wrestler has participated in 60% or more of his/her matches at MS level tourneys then he/she is ineligible for youth State events.  Understand the top 6 placer at MS State caveat.  There are points of discussion to be made for or against this viewpoint.   To me just a way to level the mat for kids who aren't yet ready for MS level competition and for those who are MS level/caliber.

Question back to you.  Who tracks that?

41 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

Understand.  Realize this was first year for event.  Maybe residency requirement area for improvement for next year.  Kind of defeats purpose of it being for Kentucky wrestlers.  Otherwise could have northern KY teams add a few ringers from Cincy to roster, or western KY teams add kids from Illinois, etc. just for the purpose of winning State Duals title.  Not saying those programs would ever do that.

Yes sir, it was a discussion that was had but in the Youth bylaws residency for competing in KY tournaments is not addressed, only for Youth State, so since he was a paying member of the club it was decided to be allowed this time around. But you make a very good point and that might be something we spell out for next year. Thank you for your input, this is what we are looking for to better this event next year and years after that.

29 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

This may be for a different post but I think it would be good to have a disclaimer for the youth State events only (Duals and Individual), that if a wrestler has participated in 60% or more of his/her matches at MS level tourneys then he/she is ineligible for youth State events.  Understand the top 6 placer at MS State caveat.  There are points of discussion to be made for or against this viewpoint.   To me just a way to level the mat for kids who aren't yet ready for MS level competition and for those who are MS level/caliber.

Nope, you are spot on....we decided to cut it off at 5th graders BUT I still put a statement in there that they could not be Middle School Starters since many of your lighter, 75-86, 4th and 5th graders are starters for their Middle School. thank you for your input...this is definitely what we are looking for to better this event for the future.

2 minutes ago, KSWA Staff said:

Question back to you.  Who tracks that?

I would think most teams' coaches would use good judgment on allowing a non-placing MS State participant to wrestle at Youth State.  But ,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't most MS tourneys run through Trackwrestling?  Every wrestler has a profile there.  A cross check of Youth State entrants by the tourney organizer (Tyler or whomever) as rosters from teams are submitted can be done.  Just an idea.

48 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

This may be for a different post but I think it would be good to have a disclaimer for the youth State events only (Duals and Individual), that if a wrestler has participated in 60% or more of his/her matches at MS level tourneys then he/she is ineligible for youth State events.  Understand the top 6 placer at MS State caveat.  There are points of discussion to be made for or against this viewpoint.   To me just a way to level the mat for kids who aren't yet ready for MS level competition and for those who are MS level/caliber.

16 minutes ago, jnv858 said:

Nope, you are spot on....we decided to cut it off at 5th graders BUT I still put a statement in there that they could not be Middle School Starters since many of your lighter, 75-86, 4th and 5th graders are starters for their Middle School. thank you for your input...this is definitely what we are looking for to better this event for the future.

Just my opinion but I think this is a great way to do this. My son is not a middle school starter but has competed in a couple of middle school tournaments this year so that he can get some different competition than the youth level provides him and to get him ready for that next step. Now his season isn't 60% middle school either at this point.  He is currently between levels, needs a little more than some youth tourneys but not at middle school level just yet. I think for State Duals as long as the wrestlers are not middle school starters and are in 5th grade then they deserve to compete for their team. I also agree with the rule of being top 6 in middle school state would disqualify them from entering Youth State tourney. Just my opinion but I think it is wrong to not allow an Elementary school age child to participate in a Youth Dual because they may be a stronger wrestler than most elementary kids but yet not strong enough for Middle School yet.  

44 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

Not questioning the residency requirements.  I'll put my point another way.  The top 6 placers at MS State cannot participate at Youth State (per flyer).  No argument there.  However, for the other MS State participants who do not place in top 6, those hammers should not be allowed to wrestle in the Youth State tourney (regardless of age) UNLESS they have participated in less than 60% of MS matches/events.  Since most MS tourneys are on Track, this could be verified.  To me would keep competitive level at Youth State very close to what is seen at youth tourneys throughout season.

I see, sorry misunderstood. I believe if a wrestler qualifies for middle school, no matter the placement, they shouldn't be allowed to wrestle at the youth level.

1 hour ago, jnv858 said:

 

Yes sir, it was a discussion that was had but in the Youth bylaws residency for competing in KY tournaments is not addressed, only for Youth State, so since he was a paying member of the club it was decided to be allowed this time around. But you make a very good point and that might be something we spell out for next year. Thank you for your input, this is what we are looking for to better this event next year and years after that.

If a wrestler is on the roster of a club and regularly attends their practices then I don't see any reason to not allow that wrestler to compete..

20 minutes ago, carrir said:

 

Just my opinion but I think this is a great way to do this. My son is not a middle school starter but has competed in a couple of middle school tournaments this year so that he can get some different competition than the youth level provides him and to get him ready for that next step. Now his season isn't 60% middle school either at this point.  He is currently between levels, needs a little more than some youth tourneys but not at middle school level just yet. I think for State Duals as long as the wrestlers are not middle school starters and are in 5th grade then they deserve to compete for their team. I also agree with the rule of being top 6 in middle school state would disqualify them from entering Youth State tourney. Just my opinion but I think it is wrong to not allow an Elementary school age child to participate in a Youth Dual because they may be a stronger wrestler than most elementary kids but yet not strong enough for Middle School yet.  

I agree and that's why I put that statement in there about 5th graders that are Middle School starters. Now, another decision I had struggled with is we have a 5th grader that didn't wrestle Middle School all year but practices with the Middle School and Youth and we entered him in MS Districts for the experience and he placed 2nd qualifying for Region, he goes to Region and places 3rd qualifying for MS State. What do you do in this instance, now obviously if he places top 6 on Saturday he wont compete Sunday but do you let a 5th grader like that compete at the Youth State Dual?

17 minutes ago, jnv858 said:

I agree and that's why I put that statement in there about 5th graders that are Middle School starters. Now, another decision I had struggled with is we have a 5th grader that didn't wrestle Middle School all year but practices with the Middle School and Youth and we entered him in MS Districts for the experience and he placed 2nd qualifying for Region, he goes to Region and places 3rd qualifying for MS State. What do you do in this instance, now obviously if he places top 6 on Saturday he wont compete Sunday but do you let a 5th grader like that compete at the Youth State Dual?

My opinion would be yes, as long as he isn't your middle school starter. Why should he be punished for being good in the 5th grade? 

8 minutes ago, carrir said:

My opinion would be yes, as long as he isn't your middle school starter. Why should he be punished for being good in the 5th grade? 

Yeah, we let him compete, that was kind of the consensus we came to is he wasn't our MS starter and 90% of his tournaments were at the youth level. Curious to see how he does at State since everybody in his weight class (92) are 7th & 8th graders, ought to be interesting, will be good experience.

I know that I am an outsider on this issue but I do have an opinion on allowing elementary age wrestlers who wrestle/qualify for MS state not to participate in the youth state tournaments.

First, I believe that elementary is the foundation for the future of MS and HS.  It seems to me that making the competition at the youth level as strong as possible would continue to make MS stronger, then HS stronger.  I understand the lure of having solid youth kids that can fill weight classes in MS.  I know that the theory is that it will allow for different kids to be the top at the Elem level too.  However, your Elementary kids will not get better by wrestling the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th best kids; they will only get better by wrestling the best.  I also understand those wanting the kids that are the top 5-10% to get better competition by wrestling MS kids.  My answer to that is have your Elem youth practice with MS kids at your club.  I do that with my third grader.  But he is in the room with our elementary kids and it pushes those kids.  If you want to get stiffer competition go to tougher tournaments or national events.  Go to some camps where the studs hang out.  There is already a system in place so I digress.

Concerning the Elementary Team State tournament:

I would seek to make this a premier event for your state for all elementary kids.  Let all elementary kids that are within the age requirement wrestle.  Make this a tough tournament where the kids who want a tough tournament in order to get them ready for individual state compete at.  A tournament like this adds many different variables that are not present in individual tournaments.  One team may have a Kindergartner that weighs 40 lbs. while another team has a 2nd grader at 40 lbs.  The 2nd grader may not when state at his individual weight but do well in this team tournament because he is older.  Or he may not get many matches at individual state but he gets 5 matches at Team state.  Also, the elementary wrestlers that do not wrestle for MS will get to see where they need to be when they wrestle their peers who are good enough to wrestle MS.  If you raise the level of competition of your Elementary Team State Tournament you will also raise its prestige.

I have followed the youth participation of wrestling in Kentucky and have seen that it is growing so you all are on the right track.  Keep up the good work!

PS: I am a big advocate of wrestling Freestyle and Greco in the "off season".  But that is another topic for another thread. LOL

9 minutes ago, jnv858 said:

Yeah, we let him compete, that was kind of the consensus we came to is he wasn't our MS starter and 90% of his tournaments were at the youth level. Curious to see how he does at State since everybody in his weight class (92) are 7th & 8th graders, ought to be interesting, will be good experience.

I totally agree with the thought process there as a parent.  Good Luck to him and that is definitely a brutal bracket but the experience will be amazing for him and his future in wrestling! 

2 hours ago, rdc517 said:

I would think most teams' coaches would use good judgment on allowing a non-placing MS State participant to wrestle at Youth State.  But ,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't most MS tourneys run through Trackwrestling?  Every wrestler has a profile there.  A cross check of Youth State entrants by the tourney organizer (Tyler or whomever) as rosters from teams are submitted can be done.  Just an idea.

No most MS tournaments are not on track.  District, Regions, State is, and a handful of others, but of the tournaments that happen, less than 50% are on track.  

I really do not understand why so many people think it is a good idea to limit the opportunity for youth wrestlers to compete in these events.  In fact, I think we should do the exact opposite.  We should be begging and doing everything we can to get our best youth kids to participate in our state events, regardless of their schedule or placements in MS state. I hear many people on this site claim that by eliminating MS state placers from participating in Youth State is for the "development of the youth kids".  How does making a tournament easier help those kids?  If anything, it hurts their development.  Wrestlers at any level only get better going up against better competition.  There is so much a wrestler can learn just from watching a stud warm up, compete, and conduct themselves in live competition.  We've basically already eliminated our best and most experienced youth kids from our state tournament by eliminating those that place at MS state.  Now we don't want our best youth kids to wrestle a MS schedule?  I cannot fathom how that would help our state improve.  There should be no rules eliminating kids the opportunity to wrestle if they want to wrestle at any level just because they are too good.  That is really just a silly and ridiculous idea if you really think about it.    

I'm with you raidercoach, we keep taking competition away from our youth organization for what we're calling growth. Not sure how this ads up.