#19 UNI just took it to the #8 Missouri tigers this afternoon. UNI got the ball rolling at Hwt where they wrestled their back up, winless (0-4), 197 pounder against ATM. Austin lost a hard fought match ans was shut out offensively again giving up a take down and reversal and earning 3 escapes. 4-3. Myers did look much bigger and strongerbut it made little difference for his attacks.

Upsets all afternoon at home for Missouri. Mayes and Lewis were both upset as well. Nothing well Mizzouso way. They had a 20 something dual win streak against the Mac but got out to a rough start. Congrats to UNI for there mac championship. Final 25-10

http://www.mutigers.com/schedule.aspx?path=wrestling   match link

http://unipanthers.com/news/2017/2/12/-19-uni-wrestling-sweeps-mac-earns-title-with-25-10-win.aspx  UNI press release 

You can watch the match at the link above.

I thought this had the potential to be a close dual. UNI matches up well with Mizzou. However, my money was on Mizzou as they were favored in at least 6 matches. I guess the shocker was the Thomsen-Mayes result. Did not see that coming.

Nice to see Cox get the pin on senior night.

It looks to me like ATM and several other Mizzou wrestlers (like Barlow) have little chance of hitting to the NCAA tourney unless they win the MAC tournament.  Very remote chance right now with losing records.  

I could be wrong, but I think the MAC gets 4 AQs at 125. However, HWT only gets one. 

Cradle...you dog...LOL

Nah, no need to pile on. The kid is having a rough year.

Watched the dual last night. First few matches were snoozefests. Lackluster effort from both guys at HWT. Bartel (a 197, 0-4 on the year) scores off a weak Myers shot in 1st, then rolls out from bottom and gets reversal in 2nd. Much quicker than Myers, but I don't think he attempted one shot, aside from the 1st period re-shot. He had nothing on top and Myers was out quick after reversal as well as to start the 3rd. Myers took a handful of shots in the match, none were close to scoring. Ref was late to warn Bartel for stalling, had Myers done more he could have forced a stall point. McGee seemed to have zero interest in scoring. Could have been hit with multiple stall calls. His head is somewhere else right now. He was a top 5 guy to start the year. Now out of the top 20. I don't think it is injury related as he won Edinboro. No reason to lose to a back up like that. Three stall calls, zero TDs. Eierman-Hodges was good match. I like Eierman, he has some funk and my bet is he will AA next year. He is a RS frosh. Although #9, the guys ahead of him are studs. Add in #11 Gulibon, #15 Pletcher, and #18 Carton and this is one helluva a weight class. Mayes-Thomsen was a bit of a shocker. I really like Mayes and had not seen Thomsen this year. Mayes had no gas tank in 3rd, giving up backs to start the period. Followed by two Thomsen TDs and more back points. This raised some eyebrows as Mayes had a good ride in 2nd which should have put him in a nice position to take the match. J'Den was awesome. He appears 100% healthy and ready for deep run in NCAAs. 

Mizzou had high hopes to compete for National title this year. They have a couple big holes in the lineup (Miklus injury a big blow), but should still make top ten. They can help their seedings by showing well at the MACs. 

UNI has a bunch of top ten guys and could be dangerous outs at NCAAs. Peters (#10 @125) and Everard (currently unranked after recent poor results, injury) did not go vs Mizzou. Although they were not needed for this dual, they are point scorers. Intermat has UNI at #21. I could see them climbing into top 15 at NCAAs. 

Good review!

I'm really not hating on Myers for losing, I highly respect the kid for what he's accomplished... arguably the best KY high school wrestler ever.  But does anyone else think he'd be better at 197?  I realize Cox is there so it's not an option right now.  He just seems short for 197 and his frame is almost maxed out without being a bodybuilder.  I think he'd be seriously competitive at 197, maybe an outside shot to AA next year, certainly the year after, especially if Cox stays to keep training at Mizzou.

9 hours ago, Zeus said:

I'm really not hating on Myers for losing, I highly respect the kid for what he's accomplished... arguably the best KY high school wrestler ever.  But does anyone else think he'd be better at 197?  I realize Cox is there so it's not an option right now.  He just seems short for 197 and his frame is almost maxed out without being a bodybuilder.  I think he'd be seriously competitive at 197, maybe an outside shot to AA next year, certainly the year after, especially if Cox stays to keep training at Mizzou.

He's not a legit heavy. He looks entirely different at the weight. He needs to start the cut to 197 in March. 

16 hours ago, Wrestling Dad said:

Cradle...you dog...LOL

No disrespect meant for ATM. He is a stud and will eventually make NCAAs and maybe AA.  But his dad is bully and bullies don't deserve respect.

He finds himself in a situation many bigger guys do: too big for 97, too small (by traditional standards) for HWT. The HWT class is undergoing significant change. The era of two slow-footed biggies leaning on each other for two plus periods is over. We now see many athletic and lighter guys having great success. A trend that is here to stay. 

2 hours ago, crazyotto said:

He finds himself in a situation many bigger guys do: too big for 97, too small (by traditional standards) for HWT. The HWT class is undergoing significant change. The era of two slow-footed biggies leaning on each other for two plus periods is over. We now see many athletic and lighter guys having great success. A trend that is here to stay. 

Perhaps he's better off weighing as much as Snyder does. Maybe 225-235. 

Where is NatureBoy?  I expected an explosion on this post. 

12 hours ago, Nkawtg said:

He's not a legit heavy. He looks entirely different at the weight. He needs to start the cut to 197 in March. 

I'm not sure 197 will be much better. He is definitely way too slow for 197, If hes struggling with his quickness at hwt. His shape doesn't really match up well at either weight. 

I definitely believe a drop in weight would help something simler to Snyders weight..

12 hours ago, wildcat2002 said:

I'm not sure 197 will be much better. He is definitely way too slow for 197, If hes struggling with his quickness at hwt. His shape doesn't really match up well at either weight. 

This actually makes no sense. If he drops weight he will become much faster.  

I believe that him trying to gain wt. for HWT is the problem.  But I also would trust those at Mizzou. I am sure they know what they are doing. 

yeah I agree with goo.  he will be just fine at HWT.  only a freshman. bright future ahead and I'd still bet on ATM being an AA one day.

5 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

This actually makes no sense. If he drops weight he will become much faster.  

I believe that him trying to gain wt. for HWT is the problem.  But I also would trust those at Mizzou. I am sure they know what they are doing. 

He's slow vs hwts. He will still be slow against more athletic 197s.  I don't think either of us will ever know because he most likely stays at hwt.

On 2/15/2017 at 3:21 PM, CradleKY said:

yeah I agree with goo.  he will be just fine at HWT.  only a freshman. bright future ahead and I'd still bet on ATM being an AA one day.

I doubt he ever even beats an AA let alone becomes one. 

Well since he beat a wrestler ranked in the coaches and rpi latest poll wed and has beaten 4 on those rankings and is the onky KY college wrestler ranked in the rpi poll and is a rs Fresh I think he has a very nice chance to AA before hes done .

A Lot of negativity towards someone who has done more for  the sport in this state and certainly for his school than anyone in.his time or before .

A bad loss to a wrestler who did nothing but scramble and stall and who would lose 99 out of 100 times against him followed by a Huge win in his last dual and match of the regular season  against a wrestler 22 8  who has beaten qualifiers and a few who beat Austin earlier this year and is ranked in both NCAA coaches polls .

THE FACT is he is not slow he attacks everyone early in every match EVERYONE from Snyder to the last person he wrestled his offense is that of a lighter weight wrestler his endurance is simply noy there for 3 periods at times although he did beat McKiernan in.ot with a TD and was in deep a few times eaelier in the match .

Of course this is a hater thread so Facts are waisted .As for CC greatest lol to even say someone who was teched his sr year by a freshman and had so many losses is a schools greatest wrestler vs A kid who is easily the schools.greatest athlete ever and the states most winning wrestler without question   is amuzing if not ridiculous .differnt worlds between 125 and and hvy you see no fr ranked top 20 at hvy but numerous fr and soph in.the lightest weights top 20 those are some Stats for some jokers that are legit.

There have been a lot of KY wrestlers who were good but only one ATM and no one will ever even put a scratch into equaling his record or achievements .

GOOD points about speed but that will return along with technique as he continues to adjust and I doubt Mizzou wants anyone else at Heavy or him to drop with him beating guys like Everard and McKiernan as a fresh .Theres a reason is ranked 24 in RPI poll he has wrestled the best and one of the toughest schedules in the country and win or lose earned that spot and  no one else on.his team not even Olympic medalists wrestled every tournament and.match on.the starting roster they rested recovered or took of when ill not him he wrestled smerchek while ill.last week and won and no excuses perhaps he wasnt 100 percent this week but he sure ended his reg season on an upnote with a win where he was favored to lose against an opponent no one from KY ever could have beaten 

On 2/13/2017 at 11:44 PM, crazyotto said:

I could be wrong, but I think the MAC gets 4 AQs at 125. However, HWT only gets one. 

Strange they only get one when.they have two heavies in The ncaa top 33 coaches poll and 4 in.the rpi poll that is used by every major college sport to determine championship bids A winning record against weak comp means.little Myers ranked 24 last week in RPI the mac should get at least 3 in with 2 in coaches and 4 in rpi but it will not happen due to politics .

MIZZOU PRESS RELEASE PIC AFTER THIS WEEKS MATCH WITH SIUE Myers first match of the day takes the W in a match he was favored to lose .

9 hours ago, Achilles said:

Strange they only get one when.they have two heavies in The ncaa top 33 coaches poll and 4 in.the rpi poll that is used by every major college sport to determine championship bids A winning record against weak comp means.little Myers ranked 24 last week in RPI the mac should get at least 3 in with 2 in coaches and 4 in rpi but it will not happen due to politics .

I don't think it is politics. At NCAAs last year, Hutchison went 0-2. He is top returning HWT in MAC. Now injured. I totally agree that a winning record vs weak comp means little, same goes for losing record vs strong comp. Bottom line, ya gotta beat the top guys to get ranked. Heck, Snyder doesn't even qualify for RPI. Many flaws in RPI. The MAC has zero guys in Intermat top 25 at HWT. I trust that more than coaches poll. Many coaches aren't well educated on all wrestlers (not a knock), some give the poll to an assistant to fill out. The takeaway here is that to be included in the big field you gotta win. The good news is this gets settled on the mat. Win MACs, get in. Lose, and hope your record merits an at-large bid. 

I believe I mentiones you had to have 17 matches to be in RPI and even with anyone who may not have those added in a kid like Austin setting at 24 is still easily In top 33 And Snyder is a different case he picks and chooses his matches most do not and the RPI goes on your wins not just your schedule funny how you try to make it look as if its based on a schedule regardless of wins and losses why do you think Basketbaall and the otber NCAA sports us RPI other than  coaches polls or anyone elses, its because they are far more flawed than RPI rating that uses wins.and losses against level of comp.As for coaches polls since you using Hutchison in MAC who has 2 in coaches poll 4 in RPI the coaches poll in Mac moved up a wrestler from their last poll who never even wrestled a match and had a loss agagainst someone he was moved ahead of who also beat someone who beat him since the last ranking .Obviously  coaches polls are far more flawed and political than one based soley on stat like RPI and the bigger conferences and even.fans like you will come up with excuses as to why the bids are not based off of stats rather than coaches preference .Hutchison and.Everard both have been ranked this year in the top 20 on flow or Intermat Not sure why the Mac drops a guy like hutchison out of their top 4 and moves a guy up who has not.wrestled seems.fishy at best them playing with the seeds Hutchison will be a top guy without a seed playing spoiler to someone with a higher rank It will be interesting to see who they throw him against early their purpose will be revealed again politics at its best.

On 2/14/2017 at 11:05 AM, crazyotto said:

He finds himself in a situation many bigger guys do: too big for 97, too small (by traditional standards) for HWT. The HWT class is undergoing significant change. The era of two slow-footed biggies leaning on each other for two plus periods is over. We now see many athletic and lighter guys having great success. A trend that is here to stay. 

Agreed and as for a guy like Austin few heavys have his style of attack he shoots and attacks everyone regardless of sise or talent  level the problem is most heavies do not and are playing defense over time he will break their D and his endurance and mat timing will increase and he will have greatee and greater success just like this week where he beat McKiernan in OT and had good offense and was in deep on shots throughout the match his comp are trying to avoid his o in the begining and he is pacing himself better while adjusting to his new weight .

Write it down next year he will win those close matches like he had with Black Sweeny and Cornwell and he has already shown he can beat wrestlers wbo have beaten those guys as his year went on .An up and down year for sure but a 3rd place at Uni open good showing at Scuffle and a super tough schedule I dont think anyone expected much better looking at his schedule in the begining Wins against Gunning and Everard were key the top Mac wrestler and the highest nat ranked mac guy and he beat them both the match with Mckiernan was also a key match as to where he would actually stand at rhe end of the year Mckiernan may not be a top 10 or 15 guy but obviously a top 30 guy with wins over Everard Black and Corbwell this year and a 21 8 record pre match with Austin and Austin winning in ot but still controlling most of match .

Another thing everyone brings up is having Cox as a partner ? Im not sure how much they wrestle and Cox has not wrestled every match this year and recovering from injury sick and somewhat burnt out this year The heavy Coach Mellon also injured leaving Austin to wrestle his numerous heavy teammates but those matches bog down into I know what you do scenarios still nice having those numbers there .

Again obviously an negative thread started soley to take some shots at kys greatest and most decorated and accomplished High school wrestler of all time but thats ok it will make that AA he eventually gets seem all the sweeter.

Coming from a state where he had the most forfeits against him in the history of the sport in that state I find it hillarious anyone from.that state would dare knock him over anything considering the cred he brought back to the state that far surpassed anyone in his time or before his record at Fargo alone sets him on top of Kys best all time and his performance at NHSCA over four years earned him the top national honor that organisation offers .

But by all means throw your stones and keep commenting on a world and weight you have no clue about the depths or dynamics of not that some on this thread know a thing at all about any weight or dynamic of in college wrestling .

I am bummed for Hutchison. He is clearly wrestling injured. Recently lost a few close matches to guys he is clearly better than when healthy.

I don't believe anyone is knocking your boy. Most will (should) agree your son will be much improved next year. He did lose a few close matches that he will win next year. Two years at HWT, he is adjusted by now. He took the challenge well. I would bet on a decent run at NCAAs next year, if not AA.

For the record, RPI looks at strength of schedule, and your record based on that schedule. And your opponent's record.....and your opponent's opponents' record.....and.....Yeah, it involves math skills. A team/individual earns points for facing a strong opponent regardless of outcome. More points for winning, of course. So, a team/opponent could schedule all top 50 opponents, go .500 in those contests, and earn a decent RPI. 

Welcome back 

Yes I brought that up your wins and losses and your opponents wins.and.losses and their rank AND your record against them  so you couldnt wrestle all top ranked guys without a win and get a top 33 ranking but you could wrestle a weak schedule have a big winning percentage and.get ranked by coaches as many have done.

NOT SURE HUTCHINSON is hurt or not.he wrestled unlike everard and of the guys in the MAC are close and its styles vs each other that determine.some.outcomes  I think they should have had Hutchison ranked and Everard 4th in Mac if even at all he has losses and has set Hutchison has been.wrestling .I have noticed a lot of college guys sit out certain matches or do other tournaments  during their teams schedule its obviously attempts to avoid losses its a shame the polls do not take some of that into consideration although the rpi poll actaully does somewhat.Guys like Snyder and Cox who are good to.begin with and.can rest up or compete as they want have even more advantages Cox would have won all the matches he missed easily none were really ranked high Snyder on.the other hand missed multiple matches with Medberry and Walz at least once .I dont believe in the statement his comp over seas was far better than the heavier Medberry or Walz I think.he took the path most benificial to him.avoid top us comp and wrestle abroad where a loss will not matter as much and.the chance of an ncaa wrestler figuring a way of beating you is diminished and that trickeles down into.ncaas as well people ducking comp to avoid loss or a matchup at all for their comp.to.figure them out.I understand mizzou turning down nat dual bid when uni did they are all beat up but for a wrestler like Austin it would have been good he has been healthy most of the year and could use comp.

A big difference in the open tournaments this late in the year and a top teams scheduled duals the opens are full of backups and lesser ranked teams that lead to easier matches and inflated records.

"Snyder on.the other hand missed multiple matches with Medberry and Walz at least once .I dont believe in the statement his comp over seas was far better than the heavier Medberry or Walz I think.he took the path most benificial to him.avoid top us comp and wrestle abroad where a loss will not matter as much and.the chance of an ncaa "

Are you high? Snyder stepping out to represent the US at the world cup and yarygin is ducking US competition? 

Are you High ?Not high :or a jerk like you  It wasnt the world cup he wrestled at earlier this year when he missed wrestling Medberry and Walz and still lost ?why would  you say that lol your funny switching dates and all and why wrestle top comp at home when your already ranked ahead of them .when all it can do.is hurt you he obviously chose the best path for himself but not.for.his team .

Shouldnt you be somewhere hyping up your candidate for best ever cc wrestler hahahahahahahahahah

And on that note the second best evsr wrestler ever born in.CC with the 2nd or  most quality wins in HS ever by a ky wrestler did a nice job helping a Heavyweight win.a ky state title this weekend .

What a pair of studs .

Six undefeated high school seasons between two brothers.

Top that for best ever CC wrestlers .you probably cant even.find a pair of Ervins to match that .

Drop the mic.

Is that the ohio jr high ow trophy Stephen Myers is holding for beating Collica one of the numerous times he did so ? Why yes it is ,Dance and  Collica both lost to him in.jr high and High School No one.EVER in ky has those types of wins in.HS techs against Hamilton.a state champ.in.KY and a 14 1 win.against Reuschell who.beat Faust in.HS  and multiple wins against Cooper in HS you.might want to.rethink.your best cc wrestler ever lol 

The Myers brothers titles together hardly matches the title output of 1 Ervin 

I agree Ervins aee a huge great wrestling family but I said 6 undefeated seasons between 2 brothers and Austin would have had 5 titles in KY no sweat .not going to get into a brock vs either Myers but Stephen had higher quality wins in HS and no one.can.comlare ro Austins nat accomplishemnst 6 undefeated seasons six state titles and six All american placings at Fargo including doubles for each .

Mic drop.

Ervins got the numbers for sure lol Awesome.awesome.family of Wrestlers them.and the Carrs and Coopers and Reuschells .

38 minutes ago, Neutral said:

The Myers brothers titles together hardly matches the title output of 1 Ervin 

Really Stephen only has two state titles but has wins over Cooper Reuschell Hamilton And Dance who beat Brock to name only a few .State titles are great but outside of ky Brocks wins do not matchup to Stephens in HS  and no where near Austins wins on nat level you could win.7 state titles in.ky and still not be considered better than an Austin Myers in.HS without anywhere near the wins on.a nat level and two.brothers packing ohio jr high ows going into HS thats easily equal to 2 ky state titles sorry but one.class in ohio jr high and you walk away with an ow and had stephen been.in.ky he would have had 2 more state titles as his dominant win as a freshman of Reuschell proved .

An undefeated yr in Ohio and Ky and 1 loss in 2 orher state titles .any day anyone wants to compare any ky wrestlers HS run and wins agaisnt Stephen Stephen Myers step up you will lose and fast wins against fargo nat champs.in.HS are rare as well and Stephen has those too..

Simply name.opponent vs opponent your talking about two kids nationally ranked since grade school with Tulsa wins.and.placings arnold classic win for stephen and runner up for Austin.and well no.use in bringing up things that are above most peoples heads just bring up win.vs win and it becomes pointless to argue .

Im not sure Brock had bigger wins than Boston in HS either but thats a different argument all together Boston had some great wins but I probably wouldnt rank him or Stephen over Brock just because Brock did get the 5 and repped at a decent nat level .

Brock and Boston both never had success in fr gr and fausz with some success in fila never did anything of note at Fargo he might have AA once there im not sure .

As for ky matches and  dominance the only 2 greco AAs ever from ky wrestled in state finals in 2015  and ky people saying the class was weak thats how knowledgable some.posters are on this forum .

The national title output of all the Ervins combined does not match 1 of the Myers . The national title output of the whole state ever does not match one of the Myers .The Fargo AA count of the whole state does not equal that of two Brothers or come close .end of debate 

ULTIMATE MIC DROP

2 minutes ago, Achilles said:

The national title output of all the Ervins combined does not match 1 of the Myers . The national title output of the whole state ever does not match one of the Myers .The Fargo AA count of the whole state does not equal that of two Brothers or come close .end of debate 

ULTIMATE MIC DROP

Just thought that was worth drilling into some thick heads .

And the crowd goes silent befofe a rush of panic laden posts trying to once again beat down the greatest pair of HS wrestlers in KY history lol 

Just now, Achilles said:

And the crowd goes silent befofe a rush of panic laden posts trying to once again beat down the greatest pair of HS wrestlers in KY history lol 

The coopers might also have something to say. 

Like what ? I mentioned them as a great family of wrestlers but Kevin who.probably did the most outside of ky lost to Stephen twice their sr yr and did not do sr or jr nat but was a decent fr gr guy although I do not think he got.to AA I will say I think.Fahy got robbed one.year at fargo but still was never an AA once let alone a double or 2x AA .

Austin as a jr in HS not wrestling a single fr gr match in over 2 yrs walked into central.regionals and walked out a double OW winner .that alone would make.him.the best ky High School wrestler ever he out perfotmed guys like Freddy stroker and others get real once again you people have no true grasp of what is what in the sport the kid even stunned me and bumping up for Fargo his sr yr and doing what he did another performance that alone would make him top dog ever .

Once again.MIC drop 

To be honest I could weigh every title and win the Myers have won since they were six through HS  against that of the whole.state and the scales would tip in their favor its a brutal sport and the facts are brutal as well dont hate the players hate the game.or yourselves for not going the extra mile or being the one to recognise what it takes .

And Brock with 5 wins and all was no where near as dominant in state as Austin I personally saw him give up reversals and tds to in state wrestlers in a single tournament  no one can say that about Austin in his whole time wrestling in ky and I will be waiting a looooong time.to.hear different.And for Austin to dominate as a fr in an upper weight like that is beyond compare for any ky wrestler .You will never see anyone like him again in ky not even close .

Certainly no.Ohio freshman could.have ever dreamed of teching him.as a sr of course no ohio wrestler ever beat him at all in.High School.

Simetimes its just fun to pour it on some.haters facts are soooo final in.their simplicity .

And he still looses to a back up winless 197 

Yep thems the breaks but guess what he beat a coaches and rpi ranked wrestler 3 days later and unlike every other ky D1 wrestler he is ranked in.rhe RPI and has not missed a single match on.his teams starting schedule this year from first dual to last RUNS FROM NO ONE AND DOESNT BREAK.

Maybe next time hes sick or under the weather or up against tough comp  he will go to a lesser meet or dual   or just set out a couple weeks but obviously hes made of different stuff .smart sending the 197 even if he stalled his but of since Austin.Beat Everard 12 to 4 and Isley 6 to 0 .lol

Do you not understand any and all negativity on this site towards you you bring on yourself how many times have you listed your boys accomplishments we get it lol they are respected by the Kentucky wrestling community wildcat but your psychotic endless rants and need for attention is what brings the negativity and that is a shame because when your sons are brought up in conversations of best wrestlers this state has ever seen the convo shouldnt include anything about dad constantly getting kicked off of wrestling sites or how he acted after Stephen lost but thats not the case because you simpley can't sit back and let Austin and Stephen get the respect they deserve it has to be about you and what "you" created when in fact they earned everything they ever accomplished..

I predict many more matches against UNI guys Austin has beaten Isley in.Fargo and in.College and beaten.Everard who he may see again.one more time .

And wildcat you are a chump to for constantly starting threads based off of Austins losses..

2 minutes ago, tja said:

Do you not understand any and all negativity on this site towards you you bring on yourself how many times have you listed your boys accomplishments we get it lol they are respected by the Kentucky wrestling community wildcat but your psychotic endless rants and need for attention is what brings the negativity and that is a shame because when your sons are brought up in conversations of best wrestlers this state has ever seen the convo shouldnt include anything about dad constantly getting kicked off of wrestling sites or how he acted after Stephen lost but thats not the case because you simpley can't sit back and let Austin and Stephen get the respect they deserve it has to be about you and what "you" created wgen in fact they earned everything they ever accomplished..

What Wildcat ? lol I think you need to look at the constant posts and harrasment thrown.at two brothers even when no one is posting about their past or presenr deeds it seems.no one.caree  when.they are being bashed so.those same.people should not care when.they are being defended or hypoed .

Idiots calling people bullies and blasting a good college wrestler discussing his weight or failure  before I even.posted .if your going to.throw stones or let people throw stones at kids who have guns.dont.be mad if people get shot down.

Obviously few  choose to defend a good kid so anyone listening in should read it all and not take to much to heart and understand its a mudslinging affair and if your not one.throwing mud I wouldnt take a word of it to heart even though its facts take it how you want to .

8 minutes ago, tja said:

And wildcat you are a chump to for constantly starting threads based off of Austins losses..

Thats all you had to say .

Mods, when you ban him again, please do not delete the topic. Thanks.

Mods please ban.wildcat he asked if I was smoking dope and is a bad person please delete him.and all.his posts and threads.

5 hours ago, tja said:

Do you not understand any and all negativity on this site towards you you bring on yourself how many times have you listed your boys accomplishments we get it lol they are respected by the Kentucky wrestling community wildcat but your psychotic endless rants and need for attention is what brings the negativity and that is a shame because when your sons are brought up in conversations of best wrestlers this state has ever seen the convo shouldnt include anything about dad constantly getting kicked off of wrestling sites or how he acted after Stephen lost but thats not the case because you simpley can't sit back and let Austin and Stephen get the respect they deserve it has to be about you and what "you" created when in fact they earned everything they ever accomplished..

Of course they earned it along with respect ,respect that many on.this site do not.give them.or their family by allowing  certain posters to.continually bash them.and.poke.their father.LOL IF IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL GOOD TO SAY PARENTS DO NOT MOLD.KIDS THATS OK BUT Guys like Cooper Jordan the Ervins Reushell and every other great wrestling family will only laugh at you and so will anyone.who sas Stephen and Austin come up through the sport with their Parents and how they did it different than most.

On 2/18/2017 at 5:02 AM, Nkawtg said:

I doubt he ever even beats an AA let alone becomes one. 

AUSTIN HAS WRESTLED 8  top 20 flo ranked heavies in the last 2 years lost to 2 last year by 1 point .

Wrestled 4 top tens this year lost by pin twice major twice lost to another top 20 by 4 and majored another rop 20 one .from last year has graduated 5 from this year are srs 2 are jrs 1 is an olympic and world champ and 2 x nat champ .Austin is a freshman.I think its safe to say he has a good shot at an AA and will beat some AAs before hes done .Also think its safe to say no ky wrestler has faced the conp he has faced rhis yr or ever as a freshman and none hace faced an olympic or world  champ on.a college stage as far as I know.

He has wins against wrestlers in.the ncaa coaches poll and the ncaa rpi poll and is ranked in.the rpi at 24 

He will improve every year and his team and coach are behind him 100 percent .

Unlike sone of the fans in his home state .

If a few obvious posters with agendas want to write him off as a rs fresh thats fine lol but im sure that well over half the wrestlers in D1 heavyweight wrestling would like to be where he is at regardless of his grade and im not sure but I could only imagine the number of D1 or freshman who would like.to be where he is at .

As for the MAC hes tied as a  3 seed and has a major victory over the #2 and a solid win over #3 he is in a tie with and hes the only fr ranked top 4 in conference at his weight .His last regular season match he had a victory over an Ncaa coaches poll and rpi ranked heavy who has a win.over the #2 guy in his conference this yr .

You might think he needs to be 197 and.whos.to.say he wouldnt be better there but he obviously is.doing ok.where hes at and its very doubtful his coaches have any plans for him to drop with a freshman starter who was the only guy on the team to start every match on.the schedule.this yr and is seeded top 4 in conference .

Austin has placed in.every tournament except 2 in 2 years of wrestling and.made it to.rd of 16 this yr at   the scuffle.

Hokie open.last yr 2 and 2 losing to nationally ranked vollaro by 1 and this yr  nationally ranked marchok by last sec td in the 3rd .

3rd  at uni open this yr 

2nd at clarion last yr 

Placed at borh edinboro and nittany lion open last yr

5th at mich st open.open div 5 n 1last yr

Hes in a class where there is not a single freshman ranked in the top 20 and the most upperclassmen dominated weight class in wrestling.

I think hes pretty Da#m good.

But is he going to the tourney though? All that's nice but nobody cares. 

Daaaaam  everybody has spoken and nobody cares .

Then.where do all the views on the threads and posts come from.why are there even.any posts or threads about him or his team and.why are you bothering to post about him.

The fact you even posted is a contradiction to what you posted .

The real fact is nobody cares about you haters and as for Austin.wether he makes the tourney or not a whole lot of.people.care .

Because hes the MAN 

Oh yeah hes been the flo.wrestler of.the week another first for a ky boy .yeah nobody cares.

MAC championships in a few days at UNI where Mizzou has already won one tournament this year rd three will be fun.

Looks like the brackets have not been posted yet. 

Achilles:  Based on the pre-seeds. who will ATM likely face, round by round?

Austin Myers 2 seed vs Devin.Nye 7 seed .with a win.Then he will have the winner of Gage Hutchison and JJ Everard in.semis if he wins.then he would be in.Finals .He has beaten Everard and lost to Hutchison.this year both have been ranked top 20 intermat or flo this yr .Close comp.between 7 of.the 9 heavies there this yr and im betting either for a finals match or for top 3 he will have to.beat either Everard or Hutchison.

NYE PLACED THIRD at last years MAC championships Austin has a win over him and Jake Gunning who finished second there last year this season.

Look at it another way...the committee must recognize the improvement in the MAC 285 class to expand automatic qualifiers from 1 to 3.  Too bad for at least 2 good heavys who may not make the trip.  Sorry Everard and Hutchison!!!

Yes 5 were actually ranked top 33 RPI  thats whats funny about everyone whining they could.have easily been given more aqs the rpi is stats the coaches poll is preference and politics.