Dylan Walls - 9th grade 
Micah Ervin - 11th Grade

Fixed. Changed Colin's grade too. 

170 is stacked, 7 state qualifiers and 2 studs at the top! All 7 of them could make the podium this year. It's a shame some won't even qualify.

I agree the top four are studs. I will go out on a limb here and say after Christmas you will probably see 2-3 of those names drop down to 160. Then the scramble is on. 

Only 11 seniors on this list. Young region.

There will be lots of changes after some head to head matches this weekend. 

I’ll update these on Wed. Some great matches today. Wish Trigg, Henderson,  and Hoptown would have been there to see where their guys stand. Rider and Hamilton make big jumps. 

The Region 1 tournament is going to be tough!!! 

I update these at least once a week, but don't make a new post. 

Have a couple changes. New number 1 at 113. Gonna make for an exciting state duals and regionals.

Ashur Jones 9th grade

8 hours ago, Mustang1 said:

Ashur Jones 9th grade

I thought the same thing. Trackwrestling is wrong. The coaches will need to update that. 

Rough region. Union, Christian, and McCracken will take top 4 in most classes, leaving the other 8 teams fighting for one. Some weaker guys on each of those teams will be sent home that would make it to state in other regions taking point scorers away from them all. Could leave points that Johnson Central and Madison Central snatch up. 

I read where Indiana fills in "Forfeit" for teams without a kid in that weight class in their post season tournaments. This replaces their "bye" given usually to the top seed and other higher seeds. When teams have quite a few high seeds, these byes put them at an early disadvantage for scoring bonus points compared to teams who have a bunch of first round matches. I think Kentucky should adopt this. The only exception is if a team only has 2 or less kids entered into the tournament, then there isn't a "forfeit" filled into the rest of their roster. 

"3. If a school does not have an entry in a weight class, then a forfeit shall be entered for that school in that weight class. EXCEPTION – When a school enters two (2) or less wrestlers in the IHSAA tournament series, the vacant weight classes created by this school’s entry into the tournament shall NOT cause a forfeit in the vacant weight classes."

I'm pretty sure it's ran that way through track. Is there a different button for Kentucky or Indiana?

34 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

I'm pretty sure it's ran that way through track. Is there a different button for Kentucky or Indiana?

I could be mistaken, maybe they don't receive "pin" bonus points when they see a forfeit. Not sure.

From my understanding Indiana had to do set up their brackets that way to counteract the old rule of bye's not counting for team points. But a couple years ago it was changed that byes can be used to score points if the wrestler wins their next match. As it currently stands Indiana tournaments I have been to can be kind of ridiculous having wrestlers down on the mat in full gear to "collect a forfeit" rather than getting a bye

1 minute ago, FalconWrestling said:

From my understanding Indiana had to do set up their brackets that way to counteract the old rule of bye's not counting for team points. But a couple years ago it was changed that byes can be used to score points if the wrestler wins their next match. As it currently stands Indiana tournaments I have been to can be kind of ridiculous having wrestlers down on the mat in full gear to "collect a forfeit" rather than getting a bye

So is it this way in Kentucky as well? If a wrestler wins his next match, do they get bonus points for their first round bye?

You collect normal points for any bye as long as you win the next match. For example in most tournaments the first round is worth 2 points for a normal decision, 2.5 for major decision, 3 for technical fall decision, and 4 for a fall. So if you were in the second round and had a bye the first round you would get the 2 point for the bye and you majored the person in the second round you would get a total of 4.5. 2+2.5. 

1 hour ago, twenhofelcoach said:

You collect normal points for any bye as long as you win the next match. For example in most tournaments the first round is worth 2 points for a normal decision, 2.5 for major decision, 3 for technical fall decision, and 4 for a fall. So if you were in the second round and had a bye the first round you would get the 2 point for the bye and you majored the person in the second round you would get a total of 4.5. 2+2.5. 

This hurts teams who have a lot of byes who could be getting first round pins. When I read how Indiana had theirs set up with forfeits, would their first round match against "Forfeit" count as fall points? 

On 1/15/2019 at 8:28 AM, DrBaker said:

Rough region. Union, Christian, and McCracken will take top 4 in most classes, leaving the other 8 teams fighting for one. Some weaker guys on each of those teams will be sent home that would make it to state in other regions taking point scorers away from them all. Could leave points that Johnson Central and Madison Central snatch up. 

Welcome to the party. We’ve been saying that in Northern Ky for decades. 

5 hours ago, ukpridewrestler11 said:

This hurts teams who have a lot of byes who could be getting first round pins. When I read how Indiana had theirs set up with forfeits, would their first round match against "Forfeit" count as fall points? 

As long as the bye’s/forfeits are scored equally it doesn’t matter what point assessment they give them. The key to your bye is winning in the next round so you can at least get the points from the bye/forfeit. If they disperse the bye/forfeits correctly the top seeded wrestlers shouldn’t get the byes/forfeits automatically. The unseeded kids should get the byes. 

On January 18, 2019 at 3:44 PM, Ranger123 said:

Welcome to the party. We’ve been saying that in Northern Ky for decades. 

Lol. I liked the old parties when Union could send 9 #1 seeds to state.  Not gonna happen this time. 

On 1/18/2019 at 8:30 PM, twenhofelcoach said:

As long as the bye’s/forfeits are scored equally it doesn’t matter what point assessment they give them. The key to your bye is winning in the next round so you can at least get the points from the bye/forfeit. If they disperse the bye/forfeits correctly the top seeded wrestlers shouldn’t get the byes/forfeits automatically. The unseeded kids should get the byes. 

When does that ever happen! 

Some States will keep track as they seed the weight classes and draw the brackets so the Byes are balanced amongst the teams. Its not hard to do

17 hours ago, DrBaker said:

Lol. I liked the old parties when Union could send 9 #1 seeds to state.  Not gonna happen this time. 

Definitely tougher. Developing some depth around the state. 

In Indiana for the state tournament series we start at the sectional level with 8 or 16 man brackets. Out of 32 sectionals there are 5 with only 8 teams. The other 27 have between 9 and 12 teams per sectional. To avoid a team getting an advantage by drawing forfeits vs. byes (Yes you can get points from the bye if you win your next match but those are just advancement points. You could get 2 points for the bye if you win the next match but another team that drew a forfeit would get 4 points) the first round in a 16 man bracket is not scored. For example one year about 15 years ago the team I coached started the sectional behind by 32 points to the one team that had a real chance of beating us for the championship. They had drawn 8 forfeits in the first round while we did not get any forfeits. They went on to beat us by 2 points that year. Even in those 8 classes where they got the 4 points for the forfeit and we did win our next match after the bye we could only gain 16 points compared to their 32. That is after we actually won a match compared to them just being lucky in the draw. 

Hearing that Rider is out for the season with his foot/ankle. Sad news. 

On 1/20/2019 at 3:45 PM, 8224 said:

In Indiana for the state tournament series we start at the sectional level with 8 or 16 man brackets. Out of 32 sectionals there are 5 with only 8 teams. The other 27 have between 9 and 12 teams per sectional. To avoid a team getting an advantage by drawing forfeits vs. byes (Yes you can get points from the bye if you win your next match but those are just advancement points. You could get 2 points for the bye if you win the next match but another team that drew a forfeit would get 4 points) the first round in a 16 man bracket is not scored. For example one year about 15 years ago the team I coached started the sectional behind by 32 points to the one team that had a real chance of beating us for the championship. They had drawn 8 forfeits in the first round while we did not get any forfeits. They went on to beat us by 2 points that year. Even in those 8 classes where they got the 4 points for the forfeit and we did win our next match after the bye we could only gain 16 points compared to their 32. That is after we actually won a match compared to them just being lucky in the draw. 

Makes sense not scoring the first round. It should be like that over here to avoid the advantages some teams get by those easy first round matchups.

Sad to hear about Malachi Rider. Get well soon !!

I'm hearing it's not true now. Hope he will be back. Kid that good can get some attention at the national level. 

More matches are getting put into Track everyday. I'll keep updating as I see them.