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Don't miss your shot at a Triple Crown!!! Schoolboy and up win folkstyle, freestyle and greco and earn your triple crown this year.
Folkstyle State:
March 2nd (mens) and 3rd (womens) at Taylor County High School
Men's registration http://www.trackwrestling.com/registration/BasicPreReg1.jsp?tournamentGroupId=127778132
Women's registration http://www.trackwrestling.com/registration/BasicPreReg1.jsp?tournamentGroupId=125726132
2019 KYUSA Womens Folkstyle State Tournament (revised).docx
Coaches, please make sure to get this info out to your kids. These coaches put a lot of time and efforts to give our kids offseason opportunities, we need to take advantage of them.
1 hour ago, halfhalfhalf said:Planning to bring some kids. Will we get to see who is registered?
Im bringing some both days as well, like to see who will be there.
I know they dont release them because they think if numbers are low, people wont come, but it works both ways.
9 hours ago, coachteater said:Im bringing some both days as well, like to see who will be there.
I know they dont release them because they think if numbers are low, people wont come, but it works both ways.
I agree.
They need to open up registration and wrestlers list to public. We have twice went to events where there was a 3 man round robin combining 2 weight classes. You won’t get commitments from coaches until they can see the list and connect with other teams and talk them into bringing more kids/better competition. Look what happened with the FS/Greco State last year. The secrets cost them competitors. IMO
10 hours ago, gameface said:They need to open up registration and wrestlers list to public. We have twice went to events where there was a 3 man round robin combining 2 weight classes. You won’t get commitments from coaches until they can see the list and connect with other teams and talk them into bringing more kids/better competition. Look what happened with the FS/Greco State last year. The secrets cost them competitors. IMO
I agree. I took my son to he KWOA last year and there was no one in his weight ( which was surprising considering he was 11 and 110 lbs) and only one in the weight above him so they combined the two and he wrestled the same kid twice. Then had beg and plead to get an exhibition match. Driving 5 hrs round trip is drag for a day like that. Certainly want to take him again but it is difficult to make the commitment and risk wasting another day.
Off season tournaments need to invest in better awards and actually post the pictures of what they are when they post the event flier. If you watch the NuWay tournaments, everyone goes for the awards. This creates more numbers and better competition. Also Spatola has put together nice awards, belts in the past and now shields. Kids want trophies and big awards. Parents want trophies and big award. Little 1/2 dollar medals with generic print does not create excitement when they can cross the river to Ohio, Indiana or West Virginia and get huge awards and loaded brackets for just a couple $$ more at the entry fee. People in this sport don’t mind spending the money if they see the value!!
On 2/19/2019 at 8:19 AM, Stephens said:Don't miss your shot at a Triple Crown!!! Schoolboy and up win folkstyle, freestyle and greco and earn your triple crown this year.
Folkstyle State:
March 2nd (mens) and 3rd (womens) at Taylor County High School
Men's registration http://www.trackwrestling.com/registration/BasicPreReg1.jsp?tournamentGroupId=127778132
Women's registration http://www.trackwrestling.com/registration/BasicPreReg1.jsp?tournamentGroupId=125726132
2019 KYUSA Womens Folkstyle State Tournament (revised).docx
Could i please have a contact number for the person responsible for organizing these events.
The matrix is now available for you to view on the Men's tournament on Saturday the 2nd and Women's tournament on Sunday the 3rd. It is also available for the J.Finley (KWOA Classic) on the 9th.
Please use this as stated above to encourage coaches and athletes to sign up.
Thanks.
What age group do I compete in? Cadet says “16u (birth year 2003-2004.)” so since I’m 16 but was born in 2002 am I junior or cadet this year
12 hours ago, ccbcdeke said:The matrix is now available for you to view on the Men's tournament on Saturday the 2nd and Women's tournament on Sunday the 3rd. It is also available for the J.Finley (KWOA Classic) on the 9th.
Please use this as stated above to encourage coaches and athletes to sign up.
Thanks.
Fyi- you can see the wrestlers by going to registration link and clicking wrestler matrix.
*if you just go to the event page and click wrestlers, they dont show
13 hours ago, Hunter arthur said:What age group do I compete in? Cadet says “16u (birth year 2003-2004.)” so since I’m 16 but was born in 2002 am I junior or cadet this year
You will compete in the Junior age group. Trackwrestling will place you into the correct age group at registration.
3 hours ago, Braves coach said:Would girls be allowed to wrestle up division ?
No, USA rules state that you cannot go up from schoolgirl to Cadet.
I attached the USA weight/age chart for you.
On 2/21/2019 at 7:32 PM, KY/USA Admin said:No, USA rules state that you cannot go up from schoolgirl to Cadet.
I attached the USA weight/age chart for you.
Funny. I would bet that they combine weights and divisions in order actually get the kids who show up at least a match.
I've been to most all of the spring events the past few years, and while I've seen multiple weight classes combined, I can't recall ever seeing divisions combined. I wouldn't have minded it on those numerous occasions when it was a round robin of two kids. That's not to say it hasn't happened, but I didn't notice it with any of our kids.
Haven’t seen it happen at a folk style event yet, but definitely seen it at freestyle and Greco events. Which makes me wonder, if someone for example weighs in at 106 and they lost to someone who weighs in at 113. Since they combined weight classes, does that make the 106 kid still eligible to win the triple crown if they win freestyle and Greco state at 106.
Yes, if an athlete weighs in and makes weight for a weight class, and participation forces combining weight classes, then the athlete gets credit for weight class they weighed in for. Most likely, we will not combine weight classes to avoid this scenario if at all possible. If the situation requires, we will have a true second or a weight class specific wrestle off to dertermine the winner of a weight class that is contested with no clear champion.
The only time that age groups are, or appear to be crossed would be in the cadet to junior division. A wrestler that is of the cadet age group is eligable to wrestle in the Junior division, if he or she is in highschool grades 9 - 12. A cadet that is in the 8th grade is not eligable. All age groups Peewee - Cadet are birthyear designated. Junior is grade designated. That is what is followed at the national level, and what we follow.
On 2/21/2019 at 7:32 PM, KY/USA Admin said:No, USA rules state that you cannot go up from schoolgirl to Cadet.
I attached the USA weight/age chart for you.
So in the past when there wasn’t enough wrestlers for a weight class or age group, why was it allowed to combine? These were sanctioned USA tournaments. I thought it was up to the tournament director discretion to allow combined classes. I think we’d rather have the wrestlers competing if their willing to bump up in weight or age group than not competing at all. IMO I know we have at least 6-10 wanting to compete for the triple crown but don’t want to come down to wrestle a 2 man round robin.
Not to sound dumb, but does scratch weight mean that if they register at 138lbs and weigh in at 139lbs they dont get to compete? Or do they get bumped to the next weight?
14 hours ago, gameface said:So in the past when there wasn’t enough wrestlers for a weight class or age group, why was it allowed to combine? These were sanctioned USA tournaments. I thought it was up to the tournament director discretion to allow combined classes. I think we’d rather have the wrestlers competing if their willing to bump up in weight or age group than not competing at all. IMO I know we have at least 6-10 wanting to compete for the triple crown but don’t want to come down to wrestle a 2 man round robin.
We typically allow kids to bump up an age division to wrestle exhibition matches all they want. We do not coordinate or bracket them though.
2 hours ago, ccbcdeke said:We typically allow kids to bump up an age division to wrestle exhibition matches all they want. We do not coordinate or bracket them though.
Funny.
I can tell you we’ve gone to USA events and when there wasn’t enough participants for a age group or weight group, the brackets were written it and combined. I’ve seen them offer the award for the weight/age class that had only 1 kid in it but then moved the kid at weigh ins into another bracket. Why can’t a wrestler that wants to wrestle and their class has no other wrestler, bump up in weight and age to compete? Maybe Jon Carr can weigh in from a Ky USA standpoint?
I looked on track and not many signed up. Does anyone know if this is a good tourney or not?
My thing is I try to support our in state tournaments as much as possible. If I go to Trackwrestling and see 1 person or 30 people registered I register my girls. Without in state support our in state tournaments will never grow.
I've already registered my 2 for KWOA as well. When the freestyle tournaments start populating Trackwrestling I'll sign them up for those as well. We have to be the ones to grow them whether your wrestler is male or female.
I am all about supporting other camps, however if we are taking about an almost 8 hour trip there & back, I like to make sure it’s worth the trip.
I can understand that. We all have drives to make. I make them quit often in the "offseason". Drive to Whitley for camps, drive to Union for camps, drive to Hardin for tournament. I'd drive to Calloway if they had a tournament in the offseason. Hell, I drive to Oklahoma and North Dakota. Point is everyone on here asks if the tournament is a good one or not. I want to see our state grow their numbers and I'm all in.
11 hours ago, Wrestledad said:My thing is I try to support our in state tournaments as much as possible. If I go to Trackwrestling and see 1 person or 30 people registered I register my girls. Without in state support our in state tournaments will never grow.
I've already registered my 2 for KWOA as well. When the freestyle tournaments start populating Trackwrestling I'll sign them up for those as well. We have to be the ones to grow them whether your wrestler is male or female.
Wrestledad, I can appreciate your view on supporting in state events however, this can be an expensive sport.
Expense is relative to each family so I only consider value. If we travel to a very small in state event and cannot get at least a couple of competitive matches then this is not a good value. Some people are only chasing awards. I would rather my kids get really good competetion . The fact that the tournament director will not allow wrestling up divisions to get better competetion means there is almost no value in attending these events.
Completely agree with Braves coach. I don’t mind spending money if it’s worth it. We don’t really care about a medal, we are looking for beneficial match ups. We travel around the Nation all the time, but prefer the ones with several of good matches.
If you’re interested in quality matches and not awards, then wrestle a gang of exhibition matches. That’s been our experience, anyway. We had one kid wrestle 10 matches in one day at an in state USA wrestling tournament. They don’t turn down matches like that. We even had a 182 pounder wrestle exhibitions all the way up to heavyweight. I think they don’t let kids bump around due to USA Wrestling rules and guidelines. That doesn’t have to determine whether or not you attend tournaments, though, if what you’re wanting are quality matches. If you can see what kids are entered and are wanting those matches, it’s still worth it to go.
ATTENTION!
Due to impending weather we are moving the girls to Saturday 3-2 alongside the boys event.
weigh in times will be the same (session times will be as close as we can manage)
Weigh-Ins: 8:00 (Session 1 & 2) 11:00 (Session 2)
All weigh ins will be in Singlets or 2 piece. 2 piece, (both pieces must be worn during weigh in) No Exceptions!!
All Wrestlers must be in the weigh in area in wrestling attire at the start of weigh ins. No weight cutting will be permitted once weigh ins begin. NO EXCEPTIONS!!
Check-In: ALL WRESTLERS NEED TO CHECK-IN NO LATER THAN 1 HOUR PRIOR TO WHEN THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO WRESTLE
COMPETITION SCHEDULE:
Session 1 10:00 A.M.: 6U PEE WEE-12U NOVICE
Session 2 12:30 P.M.: 14U SCHOOLGIRL-USAJUNIOR
On 2/27/2019 at 8:46 AM, GentleBeard said:If you’re interested in quality matches and not awards, then wrestle a gang of exhibition matches. That’s been our experience, anyway. We had one kid wrestle 10 matches in one day at an in state USA wrestling tournament. They don’t turn down matches like that. We even had a 182 pounder wrestle exhibitions all the way up to heavyweight. I think they don’t let kids bump around due to USA Wrestling rules and guidelines. That doesn’t have to determine whether or not you attend tournaments, though, if what you’re wanting are quality matches. If you can see what kids are entered and are wanting those matches, it’s still worth it to go.
You have had different experience than I have had going to these tournaments. Trying to get exhibition matches is like pulling teeth. You get no help from the tournament directors and the referees act put out about it.
My two are signed up. One has some entrants in his class, the other does not. If nothing else, we get to waive the flag and school colors, make a showing, and eat at the only Lee's Chicken that has a buffet.
I wish more teams would post some positivity that they are going. Caldwell and Carr could say that they are bringing teams, then more teams would say they are too. Get the ball rolling.
2018 Spring Classic - 310
Bullitt Co freestyle - 78
Blue Collar freestyle - 100
2018 Freestyle State - 109
Unfortunately not too abnormal. I really wish we could get more kids out for spring wrestling. I realize there are a lot of regional and national events, but spring is a fun season, and would be much better if there was more competition