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Ok, I finally just broke down and posted these summer rankings. These essentially only update for state results and remove the seniors. Once school begins and we have real information on where kids are attending school i will start to make updates for transfers and begin to make guesstimates on weight changes.
The only thing i will say right now is Region 1 is looking very, very tough going into next season.
I’ll put this out there. McCracken won’t make top 30 next year.
Edit: They will be down, but might have been an overreach. If what I heard was true, then my original statement wouldn't be that far-fetched.
9 hours ago, ukpridewrestler11 said:I’ll put this out there. McCracken won’t make top 30 next year.
You must know something I don’t know.
It’s unknown how many McCracken kids aren’t going to end up at Paducah
16 hours ago, ukpridewrestler11 said:I’ll put this out there. McCracken won’t make top 30 next year.
Well obviously they won’t be the same. But based on where things stood at the end of the season I think this is accurate.
On 6/21/2019 at 11:07 PM, ukpridewrestler11 said:I’ll put this out there. McCracken won’t make top 30 next year.
I just can't see the whole team making a transfer. Surely a few good kids will stay and they will still be top 10. Having to sit out a year has to stop a few. Deasel will be a senior. Surely he stays.
If a kid is a middle school kid moving to high school then he would not have to sit out a year.
Is some big changes going on at McCracken Co?
1 minute ago, grappler-of-old said:If a kid is a middle school kid moving to high school then he would not have to sit out a year.
What if they are still middle school kids? Rider and Virzi will be 8th graders.
21 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:If a kid is a middle school kid moving to high school then he would not have to sit out a year.
Is some big changes going on at McCracken Co?
Does that still count if they participated in a khsaa varsity sport the previous year for a different school?
Here is what the KHSAA Bylaws state.
Case BL-6-1-
What is the transfer rule (Bylaw 6)?
Bylaw 6, Transfer Rule, states that any student who changes schools after enrolling in grade 9 and after participating in a varsity contest in any sport, shall be ineligible at the new school for one year from the date of last varsity participation at the old school in any sport participated during that one-year period. There is only limited authority to waive the period of ineligibility under the circumstances outlined in Bylaw 6 and the Due Process Procedure. A contest is one of the defined limit for the specific sport within Bylaw 23 and does not include scrimmages. Additional reminders include:
Bylaw 6 contains restrictions relative to students changing schools after they have BOTH been in grade nine AND played for a member school at the varsity level. A student who has not yet been in grade nine or has not yet participated at the varsity level has no restrictions on transfer within
Bylaw 6. The restrictions on students who have both been in grade nine AND played for a member school require said individual to be ineligible for one year from that student’s latest varsity participation in that sport. The one-year period of ineligibility may be waived if documentation can be made that one of 11 published exceptions have been met as listed in the rule (Section 2). Even if an exception has been satisfied, that exception can be negated and a waiver not granted if there is sufficient evidence of a transfer motivated by athletics as detailed in Section 3.
A student transferring between schools below grade nine is not regulated by the KHSAA. A student initially entering grade nine has no transfer restriction, even if such student has played varsity in grades seven or eight.
Here is the link
https://khsaa.org/common_documents/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf
49 minutes ago, ukpridewrestler11 said:Does that still count if they participated in a khsaa varsity sport the previous year for a different school?
In short, it doesn't matter what you do as a middle schooler. There are no transfer restrictions for incoming freshman. Transfer restrictions don't come into play until you've participated in a varsity sport as a high schooler.
Does this count if there is open enrollment ?
I believe that open enrollment still does not allow a high school student who participated in a sport to switch schools and participate without meeting the requirements.
A new freshman has no restrictions whatsoever.
If you are in this situation I would ask the AD of the high school you are wanting to participate with.
Colby Stratman (220) Desales HS is a senior this coming season and is not in the rankings. I believe you might have had him as a senior last year.
25 minutes ago, ColtsWrestling said:Colby Stratman (220) Desales HS is a senior this coming season and is not in the rankings. I believe you might have had him as a senior last year.
You are correct. Had him as a senior last year. Will get him back in there next round.
On 6/25/2019 at 11:38 AM, grappler-of-old said:I believe that open enrollment still does not allow a high school student who participated in a sport to switch schools and participate without meeting the requirements.
A new freshman has no restrictions whatsoever.
If you are in this situation I would ask the AD of the high school you are wanting to participate with.
That's correct. Open enrollment has no bearing on athletic eligibility. Unless you meet one of the exceptions, if you've played a varsity sport and transfer, you'll have to sit out, even with open enrollment.
If the kids get a new physical address they can participate in varsity sports without sitting out
It's not as simple as it use to be when the rules first changed. The state has started digging deeper into these "physical moves" than people think due to everyone using that to justify eligibility at another school. In addition, ADs/coaches have no true insight if a kid will be eligible. Their fingers are crossed just like the kid/family. Hope it works out for any kid trying to transfer.
I predict Union will have their best team, points wise at state this next season. I also predict them to win the Mater Dei Holiday Classic if they have a healthy team for once. Some interesting developments in the middle school world there in Morganfield as well.
10 hours ago, ukpridewrestler11 said:I predict Union will have their best team, points wise at state this next season. I also predict them to win the Mater Dei Holiday Classic if they have a healthy team for once. Some interesting developments in the middle school world there in Morganfield as well.
Bold prediction. 9 high school Finalists? 5 Middle school finalists?
Logan Deasal is transferring to P.T. Due to the redistricting.
4 minutes ago, Mr. Perfect said:Logan Deasal is transferring to P.T. Due to the redistricting.
Redistricting?
22 minutes ago, pin2win said:Redistricting?
And part of the dominoes are falling down.
On 6/25/2019 at 7:25 AM, DrBaker said:I just can't see the whole team making a transfer. Surely a few good kids will stay and they will still be top 10. Having to sit out a year has to stop a few. Deasel will be a senior. Surely he stays.
And news just broke he transferred due to “redistricting”. Whatever that is.
I'd like to know about the redistricting. I heard that McCracken won't be hiring a coach and will be dissolving the whole program. Any truth to any of that?
On 7/11/2019 at 10:30 PM, Mr. Perfect said:Logan Deasal is transferring to P.T. Due to the redistricting.
Not sure how you redistrict when P.T. is an indpendent school system from the McCracken system. The only way he or any of the former McCracken wrestlers should/could be eligible is a physical move. I.E. the Deasal's or any other former McCracken wrestler, sell their house in McCracken's district and physically move to P.T.'s district. At least that's the way the rules are suppose to be applied.
On 7/12/2019 at 9:43 AM, DrBaker said:I'd like to know about the redistricting. I heard that McCracken won't be hiring a coach and will be dissolving the whole program. Any truth to any of that?
I talked to a parent with 3 wrestlers in the program that can't afford to pick up and "move" and she said McCracken was activly looking for a new coach. So it should be interesting. If there is no program that my help the one who want to transfer.
I hope they all find a way to wrestle. That's a great coaching opportunity at a massive school that has quickly built a great program.
1 hour ago, DrBaker said:I hope they all find a way to wrestle. That's a great coaching opportunity at a massive school that has quickly built a great program.
What was the drama around Nickal leaving?
I hope that team gets a coach.. We don't need to lose programs!
17 hours ago, bestmistake33 said:What was the drama around Nickal leaving?
I don't know the drama part of it. I just know he took the Athletic Director job at Tilghman.
On 7/7/2019 at 3:28 PM, Mike said:If the kids get a new physical address they can participate in varsity sports without sitting out
So you say.
School is starting soon. We will see the big moves.
Man, I wish there was a wrestling thread that was as active as bluegrass rivals is for football. Ever since my son started wrestling for Belfry his freshman year it has been a sport I could talk about and watch everyday. Do any of you guys know if there is such a forum? I sure hope so. I'm on bluegrass rivals 9-10 times a day but it's about Belfry football stuff. I want to talk about wrestling. I know there's a thread on there for other sports but no one hardly ever talks about wrestling. I can't wait for wrestling to start back up to see if my son can make a run at being named All State, or possibly win a championship his senior year. He's ranked #10 in the 285lb preseason rankings. If he does, he'll be the first athlete ever at Belfry High School to be All State in football and wrestling. We've never had a champion. Anyway, good luck to all our young wrestlers this year and hope they all have a success, injury free season!
8 hours ago, #55PirateFan said:Man, I wish there was a wrestling thread that was as active as bluegrass rivals is for football. Ever since my son started wrestling for Belfry his freshman year it has been a sport I could talk about and watch everyday. Do any of you guys know if there is such a forum? I sure hope so. I'm on bluegrass rivals 9-10 times a day but it's about Belfry football stuff. I want to talk about wrestling. I know there's a thread on there for other sports but no one hardly ever talks about wrestling. I can't wait for wrestling to start back up to see if my son can make a run at being named All State, or possibly win a championship his senior year. He's ranked #10 in the 285lb preseason rankings. If he does, he'll be the first athlete ever at Belfry High School to be All State in football and wrestling. We've never had a champion. Anyway, good luck to all our young wrestlers this year and hope they all have a success, injury free season!
I post a few times a week and try to get guys to talk. It's pretty slow on here. Good luck to your boy on fighting his way up the rankings.
6 hours ago, DrBaker said:I post a few times a week and try to get guys to talk. It's pretty slow on here. Good luck to your boy on fighting his way up the rankings.
Thank you Sir, I appreciate that. Yeah, I'd love to start talking some wrestling. My problem is I know very little about other schools outside of Region 8, and I dont know a whole lot about that one. But I'd love to learn. I know Johnsin Central has an excellent program and I'm pretty sure Union is pretty damn good. I wish I'd started my boy wrestling when he was in diapers. One of the most unappreciated sports there is. People kept saying dont let him wrestle, it's boring. Well, it had the opposite effect on me. I love it! And when he went to state last year it was awesome seeing all that great competition.
On 6/21/2019 at 8:00 PM, Ranger123 said:Ok, I finally just broke down and posted these summer rankings. These essentially only update for state results and remove the seniors. Once school begins and we have real information on where kids are attending school i will start to make updates for transfers and begin to make guesstimates on weight changes.
The only thing i will say right now is Region 1 is looking very, very tough going into next season.
Update coming soon?
25 minutes ago, wrastler_ said:Update coming soon?
I wouldn't think a rankings update would come before November. Nothing much right now to go off of. Once weight assessments start rolling in, then he will have a better idea of predicting where to place people. Still waiting to hear on who all is eligible this season after the moves as well. It has been a wild off-season.
1 hour ago, wrastler_ said:Update coming soon?
I will actually post an update to reflect some weight changes that I have seen late this summer and updates I have received from coaches or team insiders. And as mentioned there have been a lot of team changes that can now be reflected.
Expect the update in early September after the holiday.