No podium or awards ceremony. Pick up your medal on your way out the door! 

Then the Coaches association should get together and have the weight classes meet outside on a separate podium and hand out the awards and bracket boards for parents to take pictures. Parents should be able to do what they want once they leave the gym and the KHSAA has no liability of what happens with the athletes. If a podium needs built, I’m sure we have people on here willing to chip in. I’ll build one and bring it down or we borrow the one from the middle school association. 

All they want is your money. The crazy coronabros have lost their minds. 

Some of these kids have set goals and dreams all for the reward of standing on a podium to receive their medal. It’s not like kids are going to get Covid in the 2 minutes it takes to get up there after wrestling all over each other. After all the season has thrown us, the KHSAA can’t even get this part right? I forgot. We just better be thankful we got a season.  These wrestlers deserve better. Let’s bring our own podium. 

Didnt KHSAA throw the last podium in the dumpster a few years  back?

There has been a podium for as long as I remember. 

Hmmm... middle school managed to have a full tournament, with podium, without issue... high school should take note. 

1 hour ago, plantmanky1 said:

Didnt KHSAA throw the last podium in the dumpster a few years  back?

I believe you are correct. Then a few coaches got together to have a new one built. At least that’s what I recall. 

And have to give a big high five to Brandon Cornett and John Roth on the fabulous job they did when they built that podium for the MS. 

13 minutes ago, JonWoo said:

Hmmm... middle school managed to have a full tournament, with podium, without issue... high school should take note. 

You are correct.  MS didn’t miss a beat.  Full brackets, no attendance restrictions, parade of champions, and nice podium (albeit in the back room).  Damien said in the coaches meeting that we needed to show the KHSAA it could be done, I think the MS succeeded in that.  That being said, I feel bad for all of the high school kids who deserve that same treatment, many of them who may have finally reached that podium in their last year.  

11 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:

And have to give a big high five to Brandon Cornett and John Roth on the fabulous job they did when they built that podium for the MS. 

Agreed!!! The whole MS experience has been top notch for years!! Heck Oh-Way just had 10 mats, podiums faceoffs and fans too!! Who wants to place a wager that the team trophy will be on the floor with the winning team celebrating at Rupp Arena for the Boys and Girls basketball. So   Wrestling coaches, what are we going to do? Scotty Teater what can be done on behalf of the association?

5 minutes ago, gameface said:

Agreed!!! The whole MS experience has been top notch for years!! Heck Oh-Way just had 10 mats, podiums faceoffs and fans too!! Who wants to place a wager that the team trophy will be on the floor with the winning team celebrating at Rupp Arena for the Boys and Girls basketball. So   Wrestling coaches, what are we going to do? Scotty Teater what can be done on behalf of the association?

Have to fight back. No other choice. I was told by a former coach in the wrestling hall of fame that “It’s time for the coaches to grow a pair and step up and challenge the KHSAA”. 

Let me see if I got this right. We started the season at the peak of COVID. We have been on a downward trend with COVID infections since the beginning of the season. Our tournaments have increased in size and in frequency during that time. CDC says 3ft is okay, now. We have vaccines. But, the KHSAA is going to err on the side of caution and eliminate any form of tradition(s) the wrestling postseason may have. Those kids who wrestle each other can’t stand next to each other. Good time for KYWCA to step in. 

6 minutes ago, GentleBeard said:

Let me see if I got this right. We started the season at the peak of COVID. We have been on a downward trend with COVID infections since the beginning of the season. Our tournaments have increased in size and in frequency during that time. CDC says 3ft is okay, now. We have vaccines. But, the KHSAA is going to err on the side of caution and eliminate any form of tradition(s) the wrestling postseason may have. Those kids who wrestle each other can’t stand next to each other. Good time for KYWCA to step in. 

And don’t forget it will be said by some that “they have done this across the board with all the other sports”. Never mind that maybe that sport occurred months ago during the peak of the pandemic or prior to vaccines or numbers down where counties are in the yellow. I keep forgetting to just be thankful for the bread crumbs offered up. We have the ability to fix this just like the year a thoughtful coach and father went out and purchased all the bracket boards and handed them out to the state champions. Or when a group of leaders provided plaques for the wrestlers that put so much in to their craft. So what can we do for these wrestlers? 

How about something very simple I’d like to see the KYWCA grow a pair and push back on. 
Weigh in 8:30  Wrestling 9:00

Really. Less than 30 minutes to get though weigh ins, get some food and drink in your body, get suited up, warm up, and be ready for one of the biggest matches of the entire year. 
 

They are always in such a hurry to get this event over that we never give the kids appropriate warm up time, but this year is worse than ever. What are we in such a big hurry about?

8 hours ago, Ranger123 said:

How about something very simple I’d like to see the KYWCA grow a pair and push back on. 
Weigh in 8:30  Wrestling 9:00

Really. Less than 30 minutes to get though weigh ins, get some food and drink in your body, get suited up, warm up, and be ready for one of the biggest matches of the entire year. 
 

They are always in such a hurry to get this event over that we never give the kids appropriate warm up time, but this year is worse than ever. What are we in such a big hurry about?

This is first Ive seen or heard anyone bring the issue up. An email was sent this morning and they promptly responded. They feel that the wrestler will have the appropriate amount of time to weigh in and warm up before match.

Several people on KYWCA including myself,  Philip Dettwiller,  Josh Ashbrook,  and Che Founder have been in contact with KHSAA over all these issues.  Here is the issue,  its their event and we do not have the power everyone thinks we do. We can't just say do this and expect them to do it. We talk to them about issues, give them plans we feel will work, communicate the frustration of wrestlers/coaches/parents, and try as hard as we can to get the best for our kids, but at the end of the day its their decision.  

Have “we” ever been able to get anything we wanted or suggested?  Aside from going against their wishes to move mats or provide extra awards, providing recommendations appears to be a waste of time and energy and only increases the frustrations. 

53 minutes ago, coachteater said:

This is first Ive seen or heard anyone bring the issue up. An email was sent this morning and they promptly responded. They feel that the wrestler will have the appropriate amount of time to weigh in and warm up before match.

Several people on KYWCA including myself,  Philip Dettwiller,  Josh Ashbrook,  and Che Founder have been in contact with KHSAA over all these issues.  Here is the issue,  its their event and we do not have the power everyone thinks we do. We can't just say do this and expect them to do it. We talk to them about issues, give them plans we feel will work, communicate the frustration of wrestlers/coaches/parents, and try as hard as we can to get the best for our kids, but at the end of the day its their decision.  

 

It's the first you've seen or heard anyone bring it up because most tournaments give at least an hour between weigh in and competition.  What frustrations were communicated from KYWCA to the KHSAA?  What plans were proposed?  What issues have been brought up?  

19 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:

Have “we” ever been able to get anything we wanted or suggested?  Aside from going against their wishes to move mats or provide extra awards, providing recommendations appears to be a waste of time and energy and only increases the frustrations. 

Yes, the supplemental medals and bracket boards are one thing we got allowed by khsaa, they did not want this for a long time. Also moving a round to Friday night was a suggestion that got done. 

90% of the time we get nothing, but there have been a few things. But its not from a lack of trying. 

My understanding it was less allowed and more the leadership at that time just made those awards happen. 
 

The time has always been an issue. They won’t let kids on the mats prior to weigh ins and rush them off to get the parade started as quickly as possible. And now the time is significantly reduced to a point where there is almost no prep time. 30 minutes?  Really? 30 minutes to get weighed in with skin check, eat, get your shoes on, warm up, and get focused on the biggest match of the season. Total nonsense. If I’m a 106 how can I get a really good warm up in and really blow my lungs out when I will have to step right back on the mat for that first match immediately?

4 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:

My understanding it was less allowed and more the leadership at that time just made those awards happen. 
 

The time has always been an issue. They won’t let kids on the mats prior to weigh ins and rush them off to get the parade started as quickly as possible. And now the time is significantly reduced to a point where there is almost no prep time. 30 minutes?  Really? 30 minutes to get weighed in with skin check, eat, get your shoes on, warm up, and get focused on the biggest match of the season. Total nonsense. If I’m a 106 how can I get a really good warm up in and really blow my lungs out when I will have to step right back on the mat for that first match immediately?

It was definitely something they got approved,  and after the first year it had to be modified to khsaa's liking by doing plaques.  

I 1000% agree with warm ups and thats why as soon as I seen the post, I emailed khsaa at 6:30am. Apparently I wasn't the first to call either. I expressed the same feelings, asked about possibly starting weigh in earlier or pushing wrestling back. They disagree and thats were we are. 

You guys have a voice, you just have to be willing to use it.  

I know they are the government presiding over our sport and we should just fall in line and follow all their rules( input sarcasm) but I have to believe somewhere that rules apply to what is and isn’t allowed to happen. So I share a small piece of something that I found within a ultimate ride out  timeframe!! Now during that time I can tell you it seems like eternity, but for people being paid and sitting up in the KHSAA Ivory tower creating these random rules as they go, wouldn’t something like this be helpful?  

Also its my understanding that medals will be given out onsite, but no podium. 

16 minutes ago, coachteater said:

Also its my understanding that medals will be given out onsite, but no podium. 

What about the awards from the coaches association? Will they also be able to be given out? Are they doing the bracket boards for all the champions?

“Congrats on your state championship. You can pick up your medal on your way out the door.”

And they want us to believe they treat every sport with the same respect? 

If we aren’t getting what’s needed from the KHSAA, when do we go to the state school board or whoever they report to?  

26 minutes ago, coachteater said:

Also its my understanding that medals will be given out onsite, but no podium. 

Here’s your medal in an envelope. Now get out. 

The last time I checked there are 112 student athletes, their coaches and 448 family members participating in a high school gym. There are 2 maybe 3 KHSAA people administrating the tournament. This tournament is not the military or made of some construct that the participants and coaches cannot dictate what may or will happen. The coaches that will be at the state tournament have enough prowess and pride to make the appropriate changes regardless of what the KHSAA says this time. Our sport has a tremendous group of coaches and I have no doubt if they work together a great many things will be accomplished.   

12 minutes ago, GentleBeard said:

“Congrats on your state championship. You can pick up your medal on your way out the door.”

And they want us to believe they treat every sport with the same respect? 

If we aren’t getting what’s needed from the KHSAA, when do we go to the state school board or whoever they report to?  

Totally agree on going over the heads of KHSAA. Everyone has a boss. Noise needs to be heard at a higher level because KHSAA isn’t hearing it. After all they are the ones that kept us in A “Barn full of Dirt“  for almost a decade. 

27 minutes ago, NO-OX 1 said:

Totally agree on going over the heads of KHSAA. Everyone has a boss. Noise needs to be heard at a higher level because KHSAA isn’t hearing it. After all they are the ones that kept us in A “Barn full of Dirt“  for almost a decade. 

 

 

Imagine if they told the KY basketball community they were gonna play the sweet 16 in a horse park on a dirt floor lol

4 minutes ago, bestmistake33 said:

Imagine if they told the KY basketball community they were gonna play the sweet 16 in a horse park on a dirt floor lol

And the winners can pick up their trophy on the way out the door in a cardboard box 

1 hour ago, NO-OX 1 said:

Totally agree on going over the heads of KHSAA. Everyone has a boss. Noise needs to be heard at a higher level because KHSAA isn’t hearing it. After all they are the ones that kept us in A “Barn full of Dirt“  for almost a decade. 

 

 

Total disregard for the health of the competitors, coaches, and fans. 

4 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:

Total disregard for the health of the competitors, coaches, and fans. 

You mean the group in charge that rescinded legislation of a health and safety rule because they were tired of taking calls about it and being asked to enforce it?  Never would have guessed. 

CONTINUOUS Total Disregard!!!!

Its exact same with weighs in and start times. Disregard for the health of competitors. 
Ignorance or Arrogance, no excuse for either. If I ran my company this way , I would be out of business 

I can’t believe what I just read.....30 minutes to weigh in, skin check, eat/hydrate, warm up, and then wrestle? Is KHSAA really that ignorant? As a resident/former wrestler in Ohio with a nephew wrestling in the KY state tournament; this is completely insane! Ohio ran a fairly normal Sectional, District, and State tournament this year without incident. I realize that KY is lagging behind surrounding states when it comes to wrestling, but I also know many programs in KY are working their butts off to close that gap. KHSAA is either clearly disconnected or intentionally working against these programs and athletes. It’s a real shame. The aesthetics of the podium and standing on it to be recognized is one thing, but creating a situation where an athlete could be potentially not performing at their highest level due to lack of time for proper food digestion and warm up? That’s absurd! 

So watching the nky news last night, they showed a regional basketball game in which St. Henry beat Cov Cath, the seats were packed almost full to capacity from what I could tell. And we as parents/coaches are being limited to watch these athletes from home if we’re lucky. Players and some fans stormed the floor, it looked exciting, as if we were back in time. But I guess those COVID rules don’t apply like most have said here. Good luck young men this weekend. And God bless you coaches for putting up with this insanity

So heres where we are at. 

Awards will be given at the school, but not totally sure the process. Likely handed out at as you leave. There will be same awards as usual. 

We can not put a podium on school grounds, but we can have an offsite location and we are currently trying to secure that.

Weigh in will go very fast, 8 scales and officials.  This will allow kids time to warm up before start, and I believe the time between entry and weigh in, they can get on mats to start stretching as well 8-830.

9 is official start time they must set, but we could/likely will start a little later. Thats not guaranteed,  but depending on how things go. 

Kywca and khsaa are in constant communication and Mr. Barren is working with us with in the limits he has. 

Just know we are trying and are voices are being heard. Best of luck to all and I will give updates as soon as I know any

We can not put a podium on school grounds, but we can have an offsite location and we are currently trying to secure that.

The perfect location is 2280 Executive Drive, Lexington, KY - 40505

Is there going to be a livestream?

So we won the lottery and get to be on the mat before weigh ins. So now kids just have to quickly get their shoes on to stretch and warm up PRIOR to weigh ins. Take note officials. If this is weight manipulation, it is KHSAA sanctioned. 
 

So let’s be optimistic. Kid gets through temp, skin, and weight check in 5 minutes. Runs to the stands to shove some food in his face because unlike those in charge he didn’t get a catered breakfast brought to him.  Another 5 minutes. Quickly puts his wrestling shoes back on and hits the mat for a real warm up for say maybe 10 minutes because you know they will clear the mats by 8:50 to mop and be ready to start on time. And what about the big guys. No way they are in the stands to grab food and get shoes on before 8:40. 
Please explain to me how 9:00 is the time that “they must set”?  Absolutely no reason in the world that time isn’t 9:30. 

11 minutes ago, bestmistake33 said:

Is there going to be a livestream?

Yes. This is from trackwrestling 

52 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:

So we won the lottery and get to be on the mat before weigh ins. So now kids just have to quickly get their shoes on to stretch and warm up PRIOR to weigh ins. Take note officials. If this is weight manipulation, it is KHSAA sanctioned. 
 

So let’s be optimistic. Kid gets through temp, skin, and weight check in 5 minutes. Runs to the stands to shove some food in his face because unlike those in charge he didn’t get a catered breakfast brought to him.  Another 5 minutes. Quickly puts his wrestling shoes back on and hits the mat for a real warm up for say maybe 10 minutes because you know they will clear the mats by 8:50 to mop and be ready to start on time. And what about the big guys. No way they are in the stands to grab food and get shoes on before 8:40. 
Please explain to me how 9:00 is the time that “they must set”?  Absolutely no reason in the world that time isn’t 9:30. 

I see projectile pancakes in your future again, lol.

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A few years ago they weren’t allowed to roll up mats before finals.  Coaches did it anyway.   Because they worked together and didn’t take no as an answer.   The kids deserve proper time to warm up and prepare for matches.  It’s the bare minimum that we can give them.  They aren’t going to double forfeit every kid in the tournament.  Coaches need to stick together and dictate that the kids have the time needed to properly warm up.  No one leaves the mat until the kids are ready.  KHSAA continues to prove time and again that they don’t care about the sport, the experience, coaches, and most importantly the kids.   

Unfortunately there will not be as many coaches there this year.  Hope that those who are/can attending can get something done.  

I for one am kind of glad I am not going to be there to see all the poorly planned/run tournament unravel. I have seen much in my many years in KY wrestling but never have I seen a poorly run administration as this.  Mr. Barren seems to have very little time for the wrestling coaches/parents/ and lest of all wrestlers.  Is there a way to petition for a new administrator to our sport? Someone who will actually learn a little about the sport, someone who cares about the advancement of the sport.  And someone who actually cares about the kids who put their blood sweat tears and their families dollars into the sport.

KHSAA wants change? Well lets change it from the top down. The loudest voice we have are from the MaMa's and PaPa's, coaches will only be set aside and told to talk to their AD or principal. Moms and Dads have the real power, coaches only volunteer their time (most put the little money they make back into their program), and will be told they can be easily replaced.  

There will always be champions in our sport. Be it on the mat winning a state title or off the mat getting these kids to put forth the effort to win.  The question is how are we going to congratulate these champions? How are we going to celebrate their victories large and small.  The parade of champions is a start, but we need more. We need to make sure this time in their lives will always be remembered happily, not with a plastic bag while they leave. 

-----stepping down from my soapbox-----

These are the opinion of GOO you can take them or leave them.  In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter. 

Looks like 9:00-9:30 would be a great time for in- person Coach- KHSAA official meeting lead by the Coaches !!!

I have given this a lot of thought and I was told not to post anymore. After dying twice and fully recovering (which led to me stepping down as head coach) and now volunteering, I just want to put my opinion out there and spread some truth. Let the beating commence but I hope you listen to a little of what I have to say. Mike Barren truly does a passion to build wrestling. So does Julian Tackett as well. You have to remember that they answer to the BOC (Board of Control) and the Kentucky Department of Education. As someone who worked closely with the KHSAA, I understand your frustrations but there is more to it than many of you know or pretend to know. It's very easy to hide behind a keyboard and say what you want. Like they say, "What does not kill you makes you stronger." I can take the beating I am about to get. I just hope you will step back and realize it is not black and white. There are several gray areas....especially during a pandemic. 

4 minutes ago, cmccoy said:

I have given this a lot of thought and I was told not to post anymore. After dying twice and fully recovering (which led to me stepping down as head coach) and now volunteering, I just want to put my opinion out there and spread some truth. Let the beating commence but I hope you listen to a little of what I have to say. Mike Barren truly does a passion to build wrestling. So does Julian Tackett as well. You have to remember that they answer to the BOC (Board of Control) and the Kentucky Department of Education. As someone who worked closely with the KHSAA, I understand your frustrations but there is more to it than many of you know or pretend to know. It's very easy to hide behind a keyboard and say what you want. Like they say, "What does not kill you makes you stronger." I can take the beating I am about to get. I just hope you will step back and realize it is not black and white. There are several gray areas....especially during a pandemic. 

Ok Chris. Nice to have you back. But explain to me how starting at 9:00 vs say 9:30 is black and white on the KHSAA side?  And if it is gray why can that not be compromised?

7 minutes ago, cmccoy said:

I have given this a lot of thought and I was told not to post anymore. After dying twice and fully recovering (which led to me stepping down as head coach) and now volunteering, I just want to put my opinion out there and spread some truth. Let the beating commence but I hope you listen to a little of what I have to say. Mike Barren truly does a passion to build wrestling. So does Julian Tackett as well. You have to remember that they answer to the BOC (Board of Control) and the Kentucky Department of Education. As someone who worked closely with the KHSAA, I understand your frustrations but there is more to it than many of you know or pretend to know. It's very easy to hide behind a keyboard and say what you want. Like they say, "What does not kill you makes you stronger." I can take the beating I am about to get. I just hope you will step back and realize it is not black and white. There are several gray areas....especially during a pandemic. 

I think a lot of the issues stem from a lack of open mindedness from the BOC/KHSAA and a lack of communication. I don’t think collaboration is a bad thing. In fact, this was the perfect year for the BOC/KHSAA to collaborate with those of us who have been involved in the sport for 20+ years and travel in the offseason. They're spread so thin with all the other sports, it’s impossible to be an expert at all of them. It would have been a great opportunity to mend fences and come up with solutions together to strengthen a working relationship with KHSAA and coaches. Instead, out of the 5+ proposals that were suggested by those of us heavily invested in the sport, they went their own way without any regard to parents, coaches and athletes. Julian Tackett, himself, said “we don’t need to get input from coaches. We can just tell them what we are going to do.”  (I believe that quote was in the February BOC meeting.)  I don’t discount the difficulty they must have during a crazy year, but self awareness is an honorable quality. There’s no crime in being ignorant of the sport of wrestling as it is a complex sport to understand. However, it is a great disservice to those of us involved when those who admittedly know little about the sport try to regulate it while remaining in that state of ignorance.

I won't argue about the start time. I do know the BOC contributes to that. But I will say, I have to watch what I say based on my district. It's not just that simple. Remember the biggest school district in the state voted to cancel athletics. 

I'm just a has been that has disagreed with some of the desicions made in the past. But I also know that the powers that be do not always have the say. I'll give you an example, Dr. Polio made a recommendation for return to school and our school board almost shot it down. Same works for the KHSAA. Tackett and Barren can believe what they want but the BOC and KDE ultimately make the decision.

Not buying that the BOC or BOE are making calls on some of these things. Not buying it. No way they have a clue about timing between weigh ins and wrestling start time. 

Did the BOC have a problem with moving the mats?  Did the BOE demand that I stand directly behind my wrestler waiting to get on the podium last year or I would be removed from the floor?  Who gives security orders to threaten coaches who step across the line in the literal dirt on the floor?  Did some other organization require “someone” to cuss at me when I asked about mats to be used for the youth state when it was held the day after HS?  

I knew the beatings were coming. It's all good. C. McCoy is out.

4 minutes ago, cmccoy said:

I knew the beatings were coming. It's all good. C. McCoy is out.

No beatings. Just help me understand where I am wrong. I’m a Christian man so I’m all about forgiveness and second chances, but at some point you have to come to the realization that the situation is what it is. As much as you may want to put lipstick on the pig it’s still a pig and stinks really bad. 

All of the transgressions, present and past, need to be brought to light. It doesn’t have to be on this forum, but it needs to be vocalized. Tell your head coach, tell another coach, tell your AD, tell your region rep. Don’t be afraid to speak out. People are listening. And the time will come when the incidents that Ranger experienced and the incidents others have experienced will come to light and those involved/supervising/administrating are going to have the spotlight on them. 
The media loves a good story, and don’t we have stories to tell!

6 hours ago, plantmanky1 said:

We can not put a podium on school grounds, but we can have an offsite location and we are currently trying to secure that.

 

The perfect location is 2280 Executive Drive, Lexington, KY - 40505

BOC and BOE do not have a clue for the most part. I’ve watched almost every BOC meeting until they powers that be for us pulled the plug. In one of the last meetings one BOC member stated they didn’t have a clue how wrestling works because their school didn’t have a team... simply put I think it’s asinine that the timing wasn’t discussed nor was it sent out to kywca to give input on prior to the release. That’s not anyone’s fault but the Khsaa offices.

Our areas BOC who’s school does NOT have wrestling nor do I think they will ever get a team due to politics and ignorance never returned emails to me with questions earlier this yr when I asked specific questions and would’ve liked to provide feedback to him about our sport. 

what this crap has taught us is, Khsaa needed to consider coaches in the planning process more than what they have. They also need to swallow their pride in it as well. As each year passes our quality of wrestling in Ky is getting better and the state continues to hold us back. 

Until we get wrestling folks in the state office and/or on the BOC it will continue to be the talking point yearly imo. Coaches association is doing all they can do For it imo. The BOC lack of knowledge has hurt our sport all yr with out a doubt. 

I just want to recognize 3 guys that deserve it, because they too will not get their recognition in person at state. Every year we honor our Hall of Fame class before the finals. This year we inducted Coach Joe Carr Sr., Coach Chris McCoy, and Coach Tim Ruschell. These men have given much of their life to wrestling and to developing kids into adults. While I know they are all humble beyond words and it doesn't bother them, I hate they miss be honored in front of everyone like our Hall of Fame members of the past. Thank you again for all you contributions to Kentucky Wrestling. 

2 hours ago, coachteater said:

I just want to recognize 3 guys that deserve it, because they too will not get their recognition in person at state. Every year we honor our Hall of Fame class before the finals. This year we inducted Coach Joe Carr Sr., Coach Chris McCoy, and Coach Tim Ruschell. These men have given much of their life to wrestling and to developing kids into adults. While I know they are all humble beyond words and it doesn't bother them, I hate they miss be honored in front of everyone like our Hall of Fame members of the past. Thank you again for all you contributions to Kentucky Wrestling. 

Congrats to you all and thanks for all your hard work and devoted service to your communities and kids as well as our sport.

According to a quick google, Lu Young is the chair of the Kentucky Department of Education. 
 

If Tackett and Barren really report up to her, maybe that is a start. 
 

Her email address is [email protected]

14 hours ago, cmccoy said:

I have given this a lot of thought and I was told not to post anymore. After dying twice and fully recovering (which led to me stepping down as head coach) and now volunteering, I just want to put my opinion out there and spread some truth. Let the beating commence but I hope you listen to a little of what I have to say. Mike Barren truly does a passion to build wrestling. So does Julian Tackett as well. You have to remember that they answer to the BOC (Board of Control) and the Kentucky Department of Education. As someone who worked closely with the KHSAA, I understand your frustrations but there is more to it than many of you know or pretend to know. It's very easy to hide behind a keyboard and say what you want. Like they say, "What does not kill you makes you stronger." I can take the beating I am about to get. I just hope you will step back and realize it is not black and white. There are several gray areas....especially during a pandemic. 

     Chris out of high respect to you personally I will take your word on Mr. Barren's sincerity to building wrestling.  I have always believed Mr. Tackett has been pulling for us, this goes way back to the numerous talks I have had with him when he was our direct administrator. I also understand that the BOC controls them on the larger issues.  I don't however believe that the BOC micromanages the whole sport.  My guess is that GRC has a policy in place which will not allow a podium.  If that be true. 1.  Why don't they tell us that 2. Why hold it there in the 1st place. (They do not offer wrestling and possibly have more strict COVID rules)

My biggest complaint is the no true second at Semi-state.   I find it hard to believe that the BOC would micro-manage this much. It is the small things that have me questioning sincerity. 

I hope you are doing well and staying as healthy as possible.  We need people like you around for a long time. 

I would agree with goo that Tackett was very supportive when he was focused on wrestling. I recall sitting in face to face rules clinics with him and he definitely wanted to collaborate with the coaches. 

On 3/24/2021 at 10:44 AM, grappler-of-old said:

     Chris out of high respect to you personally I will take your word on Mr. Barren's sincerity to building wrestling.  I have always believed Mr. Tackett has been pulling for us, this goes way back to the numerous talks I have had with him when he was our direct administrator. I also understand that the BOC controls them on the larger issues.  I don't however believe that the BOC micromanages the whole sport.  My guess is that GRC has a policy in place which will not allow a podium.  If that be true. 1.  Why don't they tell us that 2. Why hold it there in the 1st place. (They do not offer wrestling and possibly have more strict COVID rules)

My biggest complaint is the no true second at Semi-state.   I find it hard to believe that the BOC would micro-manage this much. It is the small things that have me questioning sincerity. 

I hope you are doing well and staying as healthy as possible.  We need people like you around for a long time. 

Let's see what happens at GRC after the Girls Region basketball tournament. I would venture to say they will cut down the nets, have a all Region team presentation, and a trophy presentation