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Region 3 Rankings 01/28/2007

Topic ID: 1742 | 47 Posts

Region 3 Rankings

103

James Badgett (BUCE)

Jake Maupin (FAIR)

Jacob Shely (PRP)

James Huffine (SOUT)

Kendall Davidson (DOSS)

Lou Cordero (IROQ)

James Childress (MEAD)

112

Nick Reichmuth (PRP)

Arthur Ohmes (MEAD)

Chris Barrett (SOUT)

Connor Johnstone (FAIR)

Desmond Mitchell (VALL)

119

Jacob Colston (PRP)

Wes Lewis (DOSS)

Beshawn Moore (IROQ)

Antonio Stuart (MEAD)

Robert Noe (SOUT)

Nick Williams (DESA)

125

Corey Mills (PRP)

Jason Gall (DOSS)

Dakota Meredith (SOUT)

Eric Abbott (BUCE)

Branden Wyatt (MEAD)

Jeremy Johnson (DESA)

130

Mike Seeders (FAIR)

Marc Blanford (SOUT)

Daniel Sauer (PRP)

Rayshawn Graham (IROQ)

Billy Cahill (DOSS)

Ethan Medley (MEAD)

Richard Brasher (WEST)

Michael Chaney (BUCE)

Brad Holloman (DESA)

Justin Willenberg (HOLO)

135

Justin Walls (BUCE)

Aaron Cosgrove (DOSS)

Donald Phillips (PRP)

Hunter Durden (SOUT)

Buddy Whitson (VALL)

Alex Pike (DESA)

Jacob Kruetzer (FAIR)

T.J. Gober (IROQ)

Josh Tygret (MEAD)

Joe McDaniel (HOLO)

David Harris (SHAW)

140

Ben Edwards (VALL)

Austen Ringo (FAIR)

Chris Pearson (BUCE)

Zach Durden (SOUT)

Tadd Brown (PRP)

Kenton Davidson (DOSS)

Josh Sewell (WEST)

Brad Miller (HOLO)

Kevin Fort (SHAW)

Kurtis Perkins (MEAD)

145

Coty Young (BUCE)

Hector Rosado (DESA)

William Northington (PRP)

Sean Hartman (IROQ)

Deshon Batts (DOSS)

Austin Woosley (FAIR)

James Probus (SOUT)

Nelson Mason (MEAD)

Austin Browning  (WEST)

Michael Ricketts (SHAW)

152

Jeremiah Walls (BUCE)

Raydale Williams (IROQ)

Kevin Snyder (DESA)

Dusty Stengel (PRP)

Dwayne Brutscher (SOUT)

Jason Johnson (FAIR)

Thomas Roach (MEAD)

Vincent Rodgers (WEST)

Lamar Pettaway (SHAW)

Jarred Vincent (HOLO)

160

Dakoda Choate (PRP)

Joey Davis (BUCE)

Nathan Kelch (MEAD)

Robbie Spann (DESA)

Bryant Wilson (SOUT)

Mark Monroe (DOSS)

Nick Sivado (IROQ)

Sonny Jeffries (VALL)

171

Thomas Salter (BUCE)

Chase Lloyd (DESA)

Cody Bruce (MEAD)

Alex Meads (IROQ)

NajJah Savery (PRP)

Calvin Ferguson (SOUT)

Tyler Cusack (FAIR)

Rocky Wright (SHAW)

Jarred Pearson (DOSS)

Daniel Smith (VALL)

189

Joe Raleigh (VALL)

John French (DESA)

Clayton Opie (MEAD)

Michael Snoddy (IROQ)

Cory Allen (BUCE)

KeVan Avery (PRP)

Rocky Wright (SHAW)

Anthony Sanders (WEST)

Jordan Blakemore (SOUT)

Pat Elam (FAIR)

Logan Teagardner (HOLO)

215

Derek Nickel (DOSS)

Shawn Wentworth (DESA)

Travis Meisner (SOUT)

Austin Jaggers (HOLO)

Tyler Crow (MEAD)

Kyle Smith (PRP)

Durand Harper (WEST)

Josh Chaney (FAIR)

DeAndre Moore (VALL)

285

John Wise (DESA)

Robbie Brown (FAIR)

William Smith (VALL)

Bobby Fuqua (MEAD)

Zack Entrican (SOUT)

Ramsey Batshon (PRP)

Lonzell Parks (WEST)

Mike Williams (SHAW)

Guss Thomas (BUCE)

Team Rankings

PRP

Bullitt Central

Southern

Meade County

DeSales

Doss

Iroquois

Fairdale

Valley

Western

Holy Cross

Shawnee

thanks for the rankings  but like i said before everyone should come out wednesday it is going to be a great match

30, 35, and 40 should be some good PRP/Southern matches.

southern vs prp

good matchs i think

103

130

135

140

171

189

hwt

i have not seen BC that much so i dont know what they got

I don't care what anyone thinks about this kid, Willy Northington will make it to the 45 finals in region three. This kid seems to be made for wrestling. He improves noticably each and every week. As an eighth grader he just went 4-0 at State Duals with 3 first period pins. Shawn Hartman got a definate win over him in their first meeting and then Willy pinned him in the first period at PRP last week. With some technique tweeks I think this kid can really make some noise at 45/52 in the next couple years.

            Also, he's heading to Middle state this Saturday so wish him luck. He lost to #1 ranked undefeated middle school wrestler by 3 or 5 after cutting weight like crazy for 2 days. I see him possibly makin' finals there too.

where is James Payne in the HWT rankings :?

Region 3 Rankings

135

Justin Walls (BUCE)

Aaron Cosgrove (DOSS)

Donald Phillips (PRP)

Hunter Durden (SOUT)

Buddy Whitson (VALL)

Alex Pike (DESA)

Jacob Kruetzer (FAIR)

T.J. Gober (IROQ)

Josh Tygret (MEAD)

Joe McDaniel (HOLO)

David Harris (SHAW)

140

Ben Edwards (VALL)

Austen Ringo (FAIR)

Chris Pearson (BUCE)

Zach Durden (SOUT)

Tadd Brown (PRP)

Kenton Davidson (DOSS)

Josh Sewell (WEST)

Brad Miller (HOLO)

Kevin Fort (SHAW)

Kurtis Perkins (MEAD)

145

Coty Young (BUCE)

Hector Rosado (DESA)

William Northington (PRP)

Sean Hartman (IROQ)

Deshon Batts (DOSS)

Austin Woosley (FAIR)

James Probus (SOUT)

Nelson Mason (MEAD)

Austin Browning  (WEST)

Michael Ricketts (SHAW)

I think that the matches on Wednesday have the potential to mess up the rankings in a couple of weight classes.  I am not sure about Cossgrove as a second in 135 I know that H. Durden has beaten him twice head to head.  But with that being said Durden, Phillips and Walls are all going to wrestle each other on Wednesday.  And in 14o you will have the 3,4,5 wrestling each other.  All in all this is a big match that will have some implications for the regional seedings.  Good luck to everyone

where is James Payne in the HWT rankings :?

Payne is out for the season with a back injury.

yea its deffinitly going to be a fight all the way through. what are yall predictions?

yea its definitely going to be a fight all the way through. what are yall predictions?

I think -

103 BUCE will have no problem against PRP and Sout/but Sout has a chance against PRPR

119 PRP should win

130 A close match btw South and PRP

135 no idea-PRP has beaten Sout and Sout has beaten PRP/Sout was a close match against BUCE - so any of the three could go anyway although I think it will be split

140 Sout may beat PRP and has a chance against BUCE and PRP has a good chance against BUCE - it is up in the air also

145 BUCE should win 2

160 BUCE and PRP too close to call...but I think PRP will win this one

215 Sout should win 2-PRP beat BUCE

285 South should win 2-PRP beat BUCE

What are your thoughts?

When it comes to both teams having their full line-ups I think it would turn out like this [in the classes I know]...

103-BC

112-PRP

119-PRP

125-PRP

130-PRP

135-BC

140-Haven't really seen Pierson wrestle yet

145-Though Willy is the underdog, i'm really not goin' to make any assumption here

152-BC

160-Definatly PRP

I don't know a whole lot about BC upper weights

This will be a knock down, dragged out, back and forth battle 'till the end. It's a shame the line-ups won't be full this Wednesday. But I see this also as how it will pan out at regionals for how each team will do against other competition. This one will be a real nailbiter for sure.

Payne is out for the season with a back injury.

I'm sorry to hear that, but what happened... hope he gets better.

He was injured while wrestling Robbie Brown from Fairdale.

i think cosgrove at 135 definitly deserves the # 2. in fact he has earned it. yes he did lose two close matches in a one week period to durden. one by a point. the next in o-t.however, he has beaten phillips handily every time they have wrestled.also,he has beaten whitson from valley the last two times they wrestled.add the fact that he has beaten state ranked opponents like allman from laffayette (pin in second period)the only other notable loss was to the bc kid (walls)and it was fairly close.i think that walls from bc is obviously the one seed. but cosgrove also deserves the two. 

I think the rankings look pretty good considering they are based on what has already happened in matches but some of the rankings are just not as solid as others. Like at 45 it looks like it's Young and Rosado but at the same time I know alot of people who see Northington as being capable of pullling out an upset and making the finals.

        Oh and by the way.....200th POST!!! WHOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOO!!!

i think cosgrove at 135 definitly deserves the # 2. in fact he has earned it. yes he did lose two close matches in a one week period to durden. one by a point. the next in o-t.however, he has beaten phillips handily every time they have wrestled.also,he has beaten whitson from valley the last two times they wrestled.add the fact that he has beaten state ranked opponents like allman from laffayette (pin in second period)the only other notable loss was to the bc kid (walls)and it was fairly close.i think that walls from bc is obviously the one seed. but cosgrove also deserves the two. 

yeah you could  make a case either way.  But two losses to one person in the region it is hard to rank him above that person.  Durden beat some quality opponents also and had a good showing at the Dragon Invite coming off the injury.  But at this point the four of them are very close with BC being number one.  It will be great to see how it plays out.......

The PRP / Southern / B.C. tri-meet will determine how the seed meeting will go for Regionals.  If Walls wins both matches, then he's #1.  It will be in the air b/w Cosgrove, Durdeen and Phillips for the 2, 3 & 4 seed.  Has Durdeen wrestled Phillips or is tonight their first match-up?  If so, who won?  I think that will determine who gets the 2 seed.  If Durdeen has beaten Phillips already or beats him tonight, then he is probably deserving of the 2 seed & should get it.  If Durdeen & Phillips have split this year, then I think Cosgrove will get the 2 seed. 

The last time Phillips faced cosgrove phillips was winning that match by more than just a couple points, Phillips was injured during that match and that is why cosgrove got the win by forf.  So I don't think the statement "beat him pretty handidly applies, but in cosgroves defense he did get the win and sometimes thats all people care about.  But in the back of your mind you have to realize the match was not unfolding in his favor.  I say good luck and may the best wrestler win.  Seeds and rankings mean absolutely nothing guys its all about who wants it more in this case. :wink:

here is the break down as I know it.  Durden beat Phillips in a pre-season scrimmage.  Then at Woodford County lost by one point to BUCE and lost to Phillips (severe shoulder injury suffered but still a loss) Durden has beaten Cossgrove head to head twice and not lost to him.  So if Durden beats BUCE tonight and losses to PRP he will be 3 more than likely - if he beats BUCE and losses to PRP he will be two.  If he wins both there is no way he should be anything but 1 or 2.  If PRP wins them both I would say he has to be 1 or 2 and if BUCE wins both and Hunter loses to PRP it should be BUCE, PRP, Sout and Cossgrove.  I do not see how you over seed Sout at 3 if he beat Cossgrove twice.  I cannot make the case that Cossgrove should over seed Durden if he lost to him twice and not beaten him.  But as we have all said it will hopefully be clearer after tonight.

Like I said, if Hunter beats Phillips tonight, he deserves the 2 seed.  As for Cosgrove, the reason he could get a 2 or 3 seed is the fact he has faced Phillips twice and beat him both times.  He has not lost to Phillips this year.  He beat him once by a score of 9-2 @ Jeffersonville and then again in the JCTC by injury default.  Thus, if Phillips wins tonight against Durdeen, that means in the regular season (scrimmages don't count) then Phillips has faced Durdeen twice and won both, Durdeen has faced Cosgrove twice and won both and finally, Cosgrove has faced Phillips twice and won both.  Then the head to head b/w the 3 is a toss-out.  You have to go to other common opponents, quality wins, etc.  If Phillips or Durdeen beat Walls tonight, then that individual would get a leg up on the two seed.  If it's Phillips, then that puts him 2nd, regardless of his outcome against Durdeen.  The first common opponent the coaches would go to would be Walls and Phillips would have the only win over Walls.  Hunter should then get the 3 seed and Cosgrove 4 based on their head to head.  If Durdeen beats Walls, then he gets the 2 seed and that would leave Cosgrove and Phillips for 3 & 4.  Cosgrove would get the 3 seed based on head to head.  If both Phillips & Durdeen were to beat Walls, then who knows about the 1 through 3 seed but I would then say Cosgrove gets the 4 seed.  Hopefully, like previously stated in an earlier post, the picture will be much more clear after tonight.  If not, good luck to the coaches at the seeding meeting for Regionals.  As for Phillips injury default against Cosgrove earlier this year, someone needs to check that again.  I'm looking at the score sheet and the score at the time of the default was 4-4 and Cosgrove took Phillips down as the ref stopped the action b/c of the injury to Phillips' ankle.  He never gave Aaron his takedown, he immediately stopped the action.  If he would have continued the action, Cosgrove would have been awarded the takedown and that would put the score at 6-4 Cosgrove.  However, You're right.  The second time it wasn't handily but it was still a win.

I can't wait to see what happens tonight!  Hopefully it clear things up a little and not make it more confusing.  And the bottomline is they will all 4 be at Regionals so no matter what happens - in the end what happens at regionals is the most important. 

You're absolutely right!  There is no question about that.

It sucks that we won't all be able to wrestle tonight because of our teambeing so beat up right now with injuries.

    POSTING IN FOURTH PERIOD!!!  :-D :mrgreen:

Do you mean your whole team or just a few certain individuals?

Going back to what Ridge45 was saying... i have seen the "New" William :mrgreen:Northington wrestle lately, i must admit, he has much improved and has a changed attitude about the sport itself. His potential has been met with a few interesting ends that, in agreement with Ridge45, should impress, suprise, and leave many people speechless at reginals... but with what he will, more than likely, be seeded... its almost a garantee that if he makes it into the finals he will win. He has to beat one of the top 2 in order to get there, and the top 2 are pretty evenly matched... I dought that he makes it into the finals this year, though, it isn't too far fetched... I wish him the best of luck. I see him have a very successful future in wrestling lying before him.

Dusty, what the..... some things are better off un said. :x

William Northington beat Coty young tonight at Southern. I won't post the score because it'll probly be wrong and my coach will smack me. lol. I believe it was 7-6 though. Not 100% sure. I knew he could do it.

The score was 8-7, but you were close.  Coty was up by 3 in the final seconds of the match and tried to hold onto a leg until time ran out.  In the end, holding on (instead of wrestling) cost him 2 takedown and 2 nearfall points.  Northington wanted it, and he took it.  He wrestled a good match and it was a testament to the notion that you have to wrestle until the match is over.  Good job William.  If this kid is as young as you all say he is....he's gonna be a monster!

good time tonite at southern i beat PRP(130) and BC(130) so that was good prp and southern tied(PRP wins by rule by 1)but in our minds it was a tie lol BC beat prp and southern looks to me BC is number one and will take the repeat (thats me)

Did the 135 picture become any more clear tonight?  Or is it still as clear as mud!

I have only seen Northington one time this year, and I was fairly impressed.  I'm sure his technique gets better with each day and the one thing I noticed was his aggressiveness.  He was constantly moving and always looking to be offensive.  That will often times go a long way in a match.  Aggressiveness can often times help to make up for a lack of experience.

Did the 135 picture become any more clear tonight?  Or is it still as clear as mud!

No it did not b/c Phillips did not wrestle Durden.  He wrestled Walls and was beat solidly by double digits.  Durden lost to Walls 4/0.  So in a move that I guess was strategic - Phillips did not wrestle Durden - Walls wrestled both.  While I understand the move strategically - Walls had something to risk if he lost a match and I know there is no way Sou coach would have sat his wrestler out to protect seeding or ranking so I so not agree with the decision for Phillips not to wrestle solely to protect against losing to Durden and having it impact his seeding.

well why didn't phillips wrestle durden?  i figured hed be wroried about a ranking at regionals and wrestle? :?

I cannot say why he did  not wrestle - he was obviously not hurt he wrestled Walls-so it had to be a move to protect his seeding-if he lost to Durden it would impact his seeding at Regionals

Willy's technique is always improving but, as anyone who wrestled him will tell you, he's strong as a bear. I will always take technique over strength but he is strong enough that he more than makes up for lack of experience.

what about 130  lol i have waited all year to get at dan  so it was good to get that over with

did phillips wrestle walls after he had the opportunity to wrestle durden? if so that is sooooo..  wrong. thats pretty bad. that was a golden opportunity to clear this up before regionals. if thats the case, i think he goes to four seed. cosgrove to three, durden to two. its the fairest thing. i personally like seeing cosgrove at #2  i also know that both durden and cosgrove would of wrestled in that situation. so now i ask myself, does his coach not think hes capable of beating durden again? what a shame. i guess now we put three names in the hat for 2-4 seeds and let fate decide. wow! c'mon coach let  'em wrestle.

Does anyone know why PRP is unable to attend the Mustang Classic this weekend? 

did phillips wrestle walls after he had the opportunity to wrestle durden? if so that is sooooo..  wrong. thats pretty bad. that was a golden opportunity to clear this up before regionals. if thats the case, i think he goes to four seed. cosgrove to three, durden to two. its the fairest thing. i personally like seeing cosgrove at #2  i also know that both durden and cosgrove would of wrestled in that situation. so now i ask myself, does his coach not think hes capable of beating durden again? what a shame. i guess now we put three names in the hat for 2-4 seeds and let fate decide. wow! c'mon coach let  'em wrestle.

yes he was set to wrestle Durden first - it was Sou/PRP - PRP/BUC - Sou/BUC.

I agree Durden would never have thought of NOT wrestling and Wall wrestled both PRP & Sou and he could have potentially lost the #1 seed- but I guess they made the decision they thought was best. 

Guys the only reason phillips didn't wrestle southern had nothing to do with seeds or rankings.  Any one who knows me knows that I care nothing about them.  It was to avoid a pin in the BC match.  Phillips was still injured but we thought he might be able to go one match.  Guys I will never have my guys running from matches.  Phillips was going to be good for one match and one match only because his NAGGING injury.  He was not going to further injure himself by wrestling but we didn't want to agrevate it any more than we had to.  As far as I am concerned I do not care who gets what seed, you gotta beat em all eventually.  Calm down fellas.  It really was not this serious.  Too many computer wrestlers these days.  Too many people caught up in rankings.  Good luck to everyone at regionals. :wink: 

Guys the only reason phillips didn't wrestle southern had nothing to do with seeds or rankings.  Any one who knows me knows that I care nothing about them.  It was to avoid a pin in the BC match.  Phillips was still injured but we thought he might be able to go one match.  Guys I will never have my guys running from matches.  Phillips was going to be good for one match and one match only because his NAGGING injury.  He was not going to further injure himself by wrestling but we didn't want to agrevate it any more than we had to.  As far as I am concerned I do not care who gets what seed, you gotta beat em all eventually.  Calm down fellas.  It really was not this serious.  Too many computer wrestlers these days.  Too many people caught up in rankings.  Good luck to everyone at regionals. :wink: 

It would seem to me that he had more of a chance of getting hurt against Walls.  And why aggravate it at all?

It would seem to me that he had more of a chance of getting hurt against Walls.  And why aggravate it at all?

If it had nothing to with seeding then why did he take the chance to wrestle the #1?  And if there was concern about re aggravating a nagging injury then why wrestle at all as Ranger asked above?  I am not going to judge - everyone has to make their own decisions.  But you have to understand that the loss South had to PRP happened at Woodford CO and he ended with a shoulder injury that put him out for a couple of weeks, so he definitely wanted to wrestle.  Considering the parity in the 135 weight class every  match can mean something. 

And we can all talk about how seedings do not matter - but in the end we all know that in some cases they do or there would not be seeding meetings etc. And no one would bother to seed guys at all - we could just draw them out of hat-but that is not the case so while I will agree in the end you have to wrestle and prove yourself - we also have all seen what an impact a bad draw or a good seeding can have.

But as you said it is over and done with and all that matters is what happens next weekend - and I hope everyone is healthy and ready to wrestle.

It was a situation where we had sat him out for a few matches to heal.  He was released to wrestle.  It was really to test and see if he was going to be able to perform.  Bottom line is I thought I would have one good match and then set him so not to push it.  

It was a situation where we had sat him out for a few matches to heal.  He was released to wrestle.  It was really to test and see if he was going to be able to perform.  Bottom line is I thought I would have one good match and then set him so not to push it.  

everyone has to make the decisions they feel is best and what they are most comfortable with.  It does not matter now - but there was bound to be questions-  as I said with the competition in the region in that weight class people were interested in those matchups. 

2-4 seeds in this weight class in this region will not much matter.  They are all going to eventually meet and they are all going to have to go through walls.  And to answer the question why wrestle the #1... well he is the measuring stick to see where you stand as far as your performance.  Good luck guys I hope you all get one seeds.   :-D

2-4 seeds in this weight class in this region will not much matter.  They are all going to eventually meet and they are all going to have to go through walls.  And to answer the question why wrestle the #1... well he is the measuring stick to see where you stand as far as your performance.  Good luck guys I hope you all get one seeds.   :-D

HA! HA! :) Too late for that now!! But you are right there is not much difference between the two and three.  And Phillips had to take a shot - just like South wanted a shot.  - but in the end the same 4 guys should be 1-4 just as it was in the beginning of the season.  So even if they had wrestled we would still have to see what happens at Valley-next weekend - take care

o.k. you are right. they all will have to wrestle at regionals. point taken. lets be honest though. none of us are stupid. it is all about the seed. if you are a 2 or 3 seed you have a better shot at facing walls in the championship. if you are a 4 seed, you are probably getting third or fourth. dont get me wrong, under the right circumstances a couple of these guys can beat him. but wrestle him in the semis or the finals?lets get real...thats what its all about right? at state... correct me if i'm wrong, doesnt a 1 from a region wrestle a 4 from a different region? a 2 gets a three? in my book seeding is important. you tell your kids to wrestle to the max of their potential so the road to state will be a little less dificult. but hearing the prp coach say it doesnt matter to him should make it a little easier at the seeding meeting. they can have the 4 give southern the 2 doss will take the three.  thanks coach

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