OK.  Last ones before the BIG Tourney.  Good Luck to everyone.  Stay Safe and Healthy.  And Bring It on Saturday!!!

Region 3 Rankings

103

James Badgett (BUCE)

Jake Maupin (FAIR)

Jacob Shely (PRP)

James Huffine (SOUT)

Kendall Davidson (DOSS)

Lou Cordero (IROQ)

James Childress (MEAD)

112

Nick Reichmuth (PRP)

Arthur Ohmes (MEAD)

Chris Barrett (SOUT)

Connor Johnstone (FAIR)

Desmond Mitchell (VALL)

119

Jacob Colston (PRP)

Wes Lewis (DOSS)

Beshawn Moore (IROQ)

Antonio Stuart (MEAD)

Tony Tinnell (BUCE)

Robert Noe (SOUT)

Nick Williams (DESA)

125

Corey Mills (PRP)

Jason Gall (DOSS)

Eric Abbott (BUCE)

Dakota Meredith (SOUT)

Branden Wyatt (MEAD)

Jeremy Johnson (DESA)

130

Mike Seeders (FAIR)

Marc Blanford (SOUT)

Billy Cahill (DOSS)

Daniel Sauer (PRP)

Rayshawn Graham (IROQ)

Michael Cheney (BUCE)

Richard Brasher (WEST)

Brad Holloman (DESA)

Ethan Medley (MEAD)

Justin Willenberg (HOLO)

135

Justin Walls (BUCE)

Donald Phillips (PRP)

Hunter Durden (SOUT)

Aaron Cosgrove (DOSS)

Buddy Whitson (VALL)

Alex Pike (DESA)

Jacob Kruetzer (FAIR)

T.J. Gober (IROQ)

Josh Tygret (MEAD)

Joe McDaniel (HOLO)

David Harris (SHAW)

140

Ben Edwards (VALL)

Austen Ringo (FAIR)

Chris Pearson (BUCE)

Zach Durden (SOUT)

Tadd Brown (PRP)

Kenton Davidson (DOSS)

Josh Sewell (WEST)

Brad Miller (HOLO)

Kevin Fort (SHAW)

Kurtis Perkins (MEAD)

145

William Northington (PRP)

Coty Young (BUCE)

Hector Rosado (DESA)

Sean Hartman (IROQ)

Deshon Batts (DOSS)

Austin Woosley (FAIR)

Shane Sheets (SOUT)

Nelson Mason (MEAD)

Austin Browning  (WEST)

Michael Ricketts (SHAW)

152

Jeremiah Walls (BUCE)

Raydale Williams (IROQ)

Kevin Snyder (DESA)

Dusty Stengel (PRP)

Dwayne Brutscher (SOUT)

Jason Johnson (FAIR)

Thomas Roach (MEAD)

Vincent Rodgers (WEST)

Lamar Pettaway (SHAW)

Jarred Vincent (HOLO)

160

Dakoda Choate (PRP)

Joey Davis (BUCE)

Nathan Kelch (MEAD)

Robbie Spann (DESA)

Calvin Ferguson (SOUT)

Mark Monroe (DOSS)

Nick Sivado (IROQ)

Sonny Jeffries (VALL)

171

Thomas Salter (BUCE)

Chase Lloyd (DESA)

Cody Bruce (MEAD)

Alex Meads (IROQ)

Bryant Wilson (SOUT)

NajJah Savery (PRP)

Tyler Cusack (FAIR)

Rocky Wright (SHAW)

Jarred Pearson (DOSS)

Daniel Smith (VALL)

189

Joe Raleigh (VALL)

John French (DESA)

Clayton Opie (MEAD)

Michael Snoddy (IROQ)

Casey Ford (PRP)

Rocky Wright (SHAW)

Anthony Sanders (WEST)

Jordan Blakemore (SOUT)

Pat Elam (FAIR)

Logan Teagardner (HOLO)

215

Derek Nickel (DOSS)

Shawn Wentworth (DESA)

Travis Meisner (SOUT)

Austin Jaggers (HOLO)

Tyler Crow (MEAD)

Kyle Smith (PRP)

Durand Harper (WEST)

Josh Chaney (FAIR)

DeAndre Moore (VALL)

285

John Wise (DESA)

Robbie Brown (FAIR)

William Smith (VALL)

Bobby Fuqua (MEAD)

Zack Entrican (SOUT)

Larry Brown (BUCE)

Ramsey Batshon (PRP)

Lonzell Parks (WEST)

Mike Williams (SHAW)

Team Rankings

PRP

Bullitt Central

Southern

Meade County

DeSales

Doss

Iroquois

Fairdale

Valley

Western

Holy Cross

Shawnee

ya 135 is messed up!

Rashaun Graham  is still at 130.

Rashaun Graham  is still at 130.

Fixed it.  Thanks.

thanks for the rankings there are great and one week till regions to see if you are rite lol

you can keep your guy at 135 at third on your poll. he will be seeded fourth at regionals though. everyone knows thats where he belongs. there is no way he deserves to be above cosgrove. 

wow! iguess i saw that wrong, you put him at second.you trully think that phillips is the second best 135 in the region?losing to cosgrove everytime they step on the mat doesnt count for you . or maybe you just want him to somehow stay above the southern kid.

Alright now, this sounds like it's gonna become a full on back-and-forth bickering thread about 2 or 3 posts from now. Lets just give our own opinions and not get worked up over other peoples.

you can keep your guy at 135 at third on your poll. he will be seeded fourth at regionals though. everyone knows thats where he belongs. there is no way he deserves to be above cosgrove. 

wow! iguess i saw that wrong, you put him at second.you trully think that phillips is the second best 135 in the region?losing to cosgrove everytime they step on the mat doesnt count for you . or maybe you just want him to somehow stay above the southern kid.

Who has Cosgrove lost to in the Region?

lost to hunter 2 times

cosgrove lost to hunter durden 2 times by very close matches(one by 1 point and one in overtime).  lost to walls by a minor decision.

cosgrove lost to hunter durden 2 times by very close matches(one by 1 point and one in overtime).  lost to walls by a minor decision.

In the seedings it is who you have met face to face that is the first deciding factor and then they move onto the other indicators.  And while he lost to Durden twice in close matches he still lost twice- Durden lost to Walls 4/3 and 3/0-not exactly a mopping.  We seem to keep having the same conversations about this.  And in the end we all agree (with you dissenting on the order) that the 2,3,4 (and even 5) arevery closely matched so it is going to be tough to call-I think it is going to go - BUCE, PRP, SOUTH, DOSS-but you can never say for sure

135

PRP---beat southern, lost to BC lost to Doss, (not that it matters but the last match was awarded to Doss due to injury while prp led that match)still a loss in my book.

Doss-lost to sotthern lost to BC beat prp(forf)

Southern Lost to BC, Lost to PRP, beat Doss

This is a mess  :?

Good luck to all you guys. 

135

PRP---beat southern, lost to BC lost to Doss, (not that it matters but the last match was awarded to Doss due to injury while prp led that match)still a loss in my book.

Doss-lost to southern lost to BC beat prp(forf)

Southern Lost to BC, Lost to PRP, beat Doss

This is a mess  :?

Good luck to all you guys. 

It is a mess - Durden lost to PRP at Woodford and suffered an injury-beat PRP at the beginning of the year at a scrimmage (which does not count) - and then last match of the season PRP did not wrestle Southern (Which could have cleared some of this up)

Doss has been wrestling well in the tournaments

The only clear cut seeding is Wall at #1-talk about parity

prp lost to doss twice. cosgrove also beat allman of laff. by pin yes it will be interesting

prp lost to doss twice. cosgrove also beat allman of laff. by pin yes it will be interesting

Phillips also beat Allman.  And he beat Buddy Whitson (VALL) and Durden (SOUT) who both beat Cosgrove.

Phillips also beat Allman.  And he beat Buddy Whitson (VALL) and Durden (SOUT) who both beat Cosgrove.

when did he beat allman(phillips)i dont remember that....and cosgrove lost to whitson but also destroyed him twice....my opinion i think aaron will be in the finals he is looking really good right now...but we will see.

when did he beat allman(phillips)i dont remember that....and cosgrove lost to whitson but also destroyed him twice....my opinion i think aaron will be in the finals he is looking really good right now...but we will see.

Phillips beat Allman at the LIT

Phillips beat Allman at the LIT

obviously this is a big circle.  Let's hope they are all healthy and ready to wrestle come Saturday - you never know what can happen on any given day

So when do they do the seedings - night before?

215

Derek Nickel (DOSS)

Shawn Wentworth (DESA)

Travis Meisner (SOUT)

Austin Jaggers (HOLO)

Tyler Crow (MEAD)

Kyle Smith (PRP)

Durand Harper (WEST)

Josh Chaney (FAIR)

DeAndre Moore (VALL)

Derek Nickel might not break a sweat till the championship match with wentworth! Derek is looking great right now! I dont think nobody in the region can stop him!!!!!1

Archibald,

   You seem to be forgetting the 9-2 decision Cosgrove had over Phillips @ the Jeffersonville tri-meet.  Besides, I don't know why we are discussing this any more!  Walls gets the one seed and you already stated that you don't care who gets what seed b/c "they all have to face each other anyways", remember?  So the seeds will go 1) Walls 2) Durdeen 3) Cosgrove 4) Phillips.  We'll see if you're a man of your word or if you're just trying to blow smoke?

Wasn't discussing...just posting facts.. no opinions...you take everything so personal it seams.  I was not directing my last post to anyone imparticular.  Sounds like someone is argumentative.  I for one am too old for that.  I just posted that so everyone could see, not to start a bicker fest.  This is sooo old. 

Archibald,

    You seem to be forgetting the 9-2 decision Cosgrove had over Phillips @ the Jeffersonville tri-meet.  Besides, I don't know why we are discussing this any more!  Walls gets the one seed and you already stated that you don't care who gets what seed b/c "they all have to face each other anyways", remember?  So the seeds will go 1) Walls 2) Durdeen 3) Cosgrove 4) Phillips.  We'll see if you're a man of your word or if you're just trying to blow smoke?

If by blowing smoke you are asking if I will argue for my guy, I think that is a no brainer, wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't. I would expect any coach to argue for their guy at these meetings.  But I do not take this stuff personal.  Its just business.  I will not respond with a whitty argumentative post calling out one person.  I still say 2-4 dosen't much matter.  But we are all competetive so we will try to get the higher seeds I guess.  Good luck to all region 3 teams.  Lets all mature a bit. :wink: 

gatsby, i have a question for you. maybe you could clear up for me. what happend in your eyes in one weeks time that made you switch your rankins in the 135 class? durden, phillips, to my knowledge didnt wrestle. even though they had the chance. the reasoning was already explined by archibald. cosgrove wrestled the mustang and reached the finals. how did that bring about the switch in your mind from a rank of 2 to a new rank of 4.

I would completely expect you to fight for your guy.  That is obvious.  As for me taking things personal, that I don't do.  What you say will not affect me b/c I don't deal with you on a day to day basis.  I once heard a person say he doesn't take anything personal b/c "he's been called a lot worse by a lot better people".  I guess that logic would apply to me here.  All I know is when I post facts, just like you supposedly do, or even opinions, I state true facts,whether in my favor or not, and stand by my opinions.  All I'm saying is either you don't care about the 2-4 seed or you do.  It can't be both ways.  If you're going to fight for "your guy", then you do care about seeds (This is the way I'm leaning).  If you say seeds 2-4 don't matter, then at the seeding meeting, I expect you to take the 4 and not fight.  It's that simple.  By blowing smoke, I mean playing it off like you don't care on this discussion board, when in actuality, you do care.  Best of luck to you.

How about we stop attacking Archibald and do somethin' constructive. If you think he is wrong then go ahead and post the top 4 seeds as you see them. That's all you have to do.

yea i am sick of hearing about 135 becasue yea its old we will find out thursday who is where

and lets end it and start on something else

That's fair enough.  Since this particular discussion is about high school wrestlers, Marc & Dusty, I will respect you wishes and end the talk about the 135 weight class for now.  I will not post about the 135 weight class until after Regionals.  Then it will only be to congratulate the top 4 finishers (whomever they may be) & wish them well at state since they will be representing all of us in Region 3. 

thats good to hear... FINALY! anybody up for some discussion on the changes that were made in 145? They actually matter, being that the #1 changed...

so do you agree with the change? 

Its funny how every year each region is so competetive within that region and then when we get to state we seceretly pull for other teams in our regions.  We are all really on the same team here.  Lets stick together and represent this region to the best of our ability.  I wish whoever wins regionals luck at state.  I will be pulling for Valley Doss Desales,Fairdale, Meade etc.. and come on I know some of you might even pull for the ridge.  I am not saying I pull only for region three teams but everyone likes to support their region.  Especially when we are the underdogs.  Good luck guys.

The 145 class is going to be as competitive as any of the weight classes this year.  The change is justified I guess considering the most recent matches.  But just because someone won the last match doesn't guarantee victory the next time.  This will be an exciting bracket to watch.

Its funny how every year each region is so competetive within that region and then when we get to state we seceretly pull for other teams in our regions.  We are all really on the same team here.  Lets stick together and represent this region to the best of our ability.  I wish whoever wins regionals luck at state.  I will be pulling for Valley Doss Desales,Fairdale, Meade etc.. and come on I know some of you might even pull for the ridge.  I am not saying I pull only for region three teams but everyone likes to support their region.  Especially when we are the underdogs.  Good luck guys.

I think everyone here is supportive of the region and while we like to support our own team - it is also just fun to talk and argue.  I do not let anything said here really bother me or make me mad.  We all want the best 4 wrestlers in each weight class to go to state and do the best they can when they get there.  Let's face it there are allot of people out there bashing this region.  So the final word on the 135 weight class has always been that there are 4/5 really good guys out there &  we just do not agree on what order 1-5 they should be placed in - but no matter what when the time comes we all be cheering for them to make a good showing at state-the same goes with all the weight classes!!

Plain simple we'll be competitive at regionals but everyone knows at state we'll be cheering eachother on. I mean if yea didn't that'd be kinda messed up cuz we gotta represent and show everyone else that Region 3 ain't no pushover!! {yes I know ain't no is a double negitive but I meant to write it that way }

a few more days and i cant wait i hope the snow will not shew anything up anymore than it has and come sat. we have a great day of wrestling

does anyone from valley know how the day is going to go? like when finals are?

not like it matters to my position... but Me and Coty Young only have one loss in this region. Me to him, and Him to William Northington. William on the other hand has had more than one. Whether or not he won them back, he has been beaten by many people in region 3 that he will probably be seeded over. I dont see that being just. Not like it matters to me that much where im seeded, (i don't have to be seeded to win), but i would rather wrestle someone i havent beaten in the finals rather than someone that i have...

it just makes more since to me. Coty Young and Hector Rosado are still the most dominant wrestlers of 145 in region 3. Therefore i do not agree with the change.

Yet, it still remains as just someones oppinion. It means very little to me. I really don't see the point of arguing over seeds. If you are confidant you can win, (turn out the best) then you should have no problem with whoever is in your way. Beat'em... that proves you better. May the best man win. No excuses.

not like it matters to my position... but Me and Coty Young only have one loss in this region. Me to him, and Him to William Northington. William on the other hand has had more than one. Whether or not he won them back, he has been beaten by many people in region 3 that he will probably be seeded over. I dont see that being just. Not like it matters to me that much where im seeded, (i don't have to be seeded to win), but i would rather wrestle someone i havent beaten in the finals rather than someone that i have...

it just makes more since to me. Coty Young and Hector Rosado are still the most dominant wrestlers of 145 in region 3. Therefore i do not agree with the change.

Yet, it still remains as just someones oppinion. It means very little to me. I really don't see the point of arguing over seeds. If you are confidant you can win, (turn out the best) then you should have no problem with whoever is in your way. Beat'em... that proves you better. May the best man win. No excuses.

you could say that but considering that Willie is so young and is still learning more technique he has gotten alot better and him beating coty young proves that....but you are right big guy we will see!

Yes. I'm glad to see the subject change from 35 to 45 because 35 has been a toss up all season but it's only been at the end of the season that 45 has completly got turned on it's head in my opinion. I think it's even more of an "anyone's region" weight than 135 was an "anyone's 2 and 3 seed" weight. Someone else put it best when they said that 145 just became a game of rock, paper, scissors at the seed meeting. Lets get the chatter up on this weight a little more. A possible 8th grader 1st seed is definately worthy of conversation.

I am anticipating quite a bit of debate on the 145 class, but to be quite honest, I don't see Northington getting the 1st seed simply because he has more losses to regional competitors.  I understand that you will reply to this post to tell me that he has beat all the wrestlers that have beat him, with the exception of Rosado, and that he has gotten better and better as the season has progressed, but for the purposes of seeding it really doesn't matter.  Rosado and Young each have a single loss to regional competitors, and since the three of them match up against each other like paper, rock, and scissors, the next thing to look at will be regional losses.  I believe it will be Young, Rosado, and then Northington, and this is the argument that I'm going to use in the meeting.  I'm not saying that he can't win the weight-class, but he definitely won't win the 1st seed. 

I'm not talkin' about seeds at all. I honestly don't care if he's first or not seeded at all. In all honesty I would rather him have the hardest brackett posssible. That way he would have to prove himself and there would be no doubt who was the best. All I care about is Regional outcome. Not seedings.

Let's try and keep this topic running until Saturday. I NEED SOME REGION 3 CHATTER!!!

Let's try and keep this topic running until Saturday. I NEED SOME REGION 3 CHATTER!!!

Weird!...but okay lets talk....i think prp will have 4 champs(119,125,145,160).....bucentral 3 champs(103,135,171)....fairdale 2(130,hvy)...doss 1(215,but 4to5 3rds)....meade 1(112)....valley 2(140,189)iroquois 1(152).....with prp on top....doss or bucentral 2nd

That looks pretty good but at 152 I think it will look like this...

1-Walls

2-Raydale

3-Stengel

4-Stewart

I think it could actually go either way between the 2 and 3 guys. If we both have our heads actually in the match, it will be pretty good. I know I will be seeded below Stewart though due to my loss to him earlier in the season. I think it will turn out different this time if we somehow meet.

That looks pretty good but at 152 I think it will look like this...

1-Walls

2-Raydale

3-Stengel

4-Stewart

I think it could actually go either way between the 2 and 3 guys. If we both have our heads actually in the match, it will be pretty good. I know I will be seeded below Stewart though due to my loss to him earlier in the season. I think it will turn out different this time if we somehow meet.

cool i forgot about walls my bad

walls will win it at 152 for the region

walls will win it at 152 for the region

yes he will i forgot about him hes looking good right now.

Definately. I would like to see him get some good matches though at regionals. Even though it's none to likely to play out that way. I want to step on the mat with him. A trip to the finals and a face off with him would be awsome if I made it to the final round.

That looks pretty good but at 152 I think it will look like this...

1-Walls

2-Raydale

3-Stengel

4-Stewart

I think it could actually go either way between the 2 and 3 guys. If we both have our heads actually in the match, it will be pretty good. I know I will be seeded below Stewart though due to my loss to him earlier in the season. I think it will turn out different this time if we somehow meet.

Who the crap is Stewart??? Are you talking about Kevin Snyder? Kevin Stewart and Kevin Snyder are 2 dvery different people bruh... :|

That looks pretty good but at 152 I think it will look like this...

1-Walls

2-Raydale

3-Stengel

4-Stewart

I think it could actually go either way between the 2 and 3 guys. If we both have our heads actually in the match, it will be pretty good. I know I will be seeded below Stewart though due to my loss to him earlier in the season. I think it will turn out different this time if we somehow meet.

i think u have that all messed up.. its going to be walls, SNYDER(not stewart you pulled that out of something) then raydale and then whatever your name is... so yea

Yea. I saw that I put Stewart and was like "wow. Everyone is gonna ride me out for that one". lol. Sorry Snyder.

i think u have that all messed up.. its going to be walls, SNYDER(not stewart you pulled that out of something) then raydale and then whatever your name is... so yea

No need to get worked up. It's just that alot has changed over the course of season in my wrestling. I usually don't get my head into my matches but regions will be a whole different story. Best performance i'll have all year. I've been workin' with Choate and alot of other good wrestlers to prepare for this tourney. And if you see things turning out differnet than how I predicted then who cares. It's just my opinion.

103

1 BC

2 Fairdale

3 Prp

4 Southern

112

1 Prp

2 MC

3 Southern

4 Fairdale

119

1 Prp

2 Doss

3 BC

4 MC

125

1 Prp

2 Doss

3 Southern

4 MC

130

1 Fairdale

2 Southern

3 Doss

4 Prp

135

1 BC

2 Southern

3 Doss

4 Prp

5 Fairdale

6 Valley

7 DeSales

140

1 Valley

2 Shawnee

3 Fairdale

4 BC

5 Southern

6 Meade

7 Doss

145

1 DeSales

2 Prp

3 BC

4 MC

152

1 BC

2 DeSales

3 Iroq

4 Southern

5 Doss

160

1 Prp

2 DeSales

3 BC

4 MC

5 Southern

6 Fairdale

171

1 BC

2 MC

3 DeSales

4 Iroq

5 Shawnee

189

1 Valley

2 DeSales

3 Iroq

4 Prp

5 Meade

6 Southern

215

1 Doss

2 DeSales

3 Shawnee

4 Holy Cross

5 Southern

6 Valley

285

1 DeSales

2 Fairdale

3 Valley

4 Meade

Seeding was based on Head to Head, followed by best regional % at the entered weight class

the seeds are in and looking good i am where i want to be but yea good luck to more days and i cant wait to see everyone @ vally

Wow. 152 is quite a shock to me. Wow. I can understand BC, Desales, and Iroquis. But Southern and Doss? Man, that's not what I expected at all.

Wow. 152 is quite a shock to me. Wow. I can understand BC, Desales, and Iroquis. But Southern and Doss? Man, that's not what I expected at all.

get over it

get over it

I'm completely fine with it. If they got put there then they did somethin' to deserve it. I'm not complaining. Just didn't think thats the way it would be. We'll see how the seedings reflect the placing tomorrow. Good luck to all of them.

Have Joey Davis and Robbie Spann wrestled this each other this season? I thought that Joey would be the 2 seed under Choate. If they met, what was the outcome?

good luck tomorrow i cant wait i am sick but i will be ready to go tomorrow sick are not so bring it on lol