Who do YOU think deserved it and why? and who did get it?

Who actually got it?

I think mitch urvin from union co got mow.

derek nickel deserved it more than anyone. mitch irvin got it. hes a good wrestler, but derek is now the lowest ranked wrestler to win a state championship in the state of kentucky. he did it in grand style . he beat the 2 in the quarters. the 7 in the semis. then dominated chaney in the finals.what a show he put on wow he was possessed

never expected him to be the 215 champ but you cant say he didnt earn it when he did.

I think Zarth from Henry Clay should have got it. I am not sure but I dont think he was scored on but once the whole tournament and this was suppose to be the toughest weight class. He controlled everyone.

if you use just what they did at the state tourney i would say nickle but your state tourney is the end of all your hard work and i think if you have a great year and go 5-0 at state then that should enter in to the vote jonny at 60 had aunbeaten season travis had a perfect year and voth had a ubeaten season and warner had a perfect season only giving up 4 points all season and i think those things should enter in to the coaches picks at state look at the upsets if you want to call them upsets i think the kids that won at the state tourney wanted it moore when it came down to it so would not call them upsets those boys just wrestled better for that 6 min what they do in mi is they have a 145 and under and 152 and up  but ithink every kid in the tourney should have been MOW because they all worked thier buts off to get there in the greatest high school sport ever        SO  HATS OFF TO ALL OF YOU    OUTSTANDING JOB

Congrats to Mitch Ervin, but I disagree that he was the Most Outstanding Wrestler of the tournament. I honestly think the two reasons he won it are because he beat Banks, and because his team won the tournament. Matt Zarth dominated his weight class, which was widely considered the hardest in the state. Also, Harrison Courtney showed some great poise and focus in his semi-finals match against Thuneman. That was the most exciting match of the tournament. Courtney could have won MOW.

if you use just what they did at the state tourney i would say nickle but your state tourney is the end of all your hard work and i think if you have a great year and go 5-0 at state then that should enter in to the vote jonny at 60 had aunbeaten season travis had a perfect year and voth had a ubeaten season and warner had a perfect season only giving up 4 points all season and i think those things should enter in to the coaches picks at state look at the upsets if you want to call them upsets i think the kids that won at the state tourney wanted it moore when it came down to it so would not call them upsets those boys just wrestled better for that 6 min what they do in mi is they have a 145 and under and 152 and up  but ithink every kid in the tourney should have been MOW because they all worked thier buts off to get there in the greatest high school sport ever        SO  HATS OFF TO ALL OF YOU    OUTSTANDING JOB

in that case you could put mitch ervin in that scenario because he too went undefeated also, and was the region one mow too

Several would be deserving of MOW. But, Travis Sullivan gets the WOW. That kid is a champion.

Irvins MOW had nothing to do with the team winning it.  The coaches vote.  The MOW is of the tournament, not of the season.  Thats what your local conference or newspapers will do.  Just like the team title, I would guess that the votes were as close as the team scores.  The MOW could have gone to anyone and stated their case well. 

sullivan didnt look very "outstanding" in the finals,he still won but he dindt deserve it, zarth won the hardest weight class and made it look easy,, thats outstanding

if you use just what they did at the state tourney i would say nickle but your state tourney is the end of all your hard work and i think if you have a great year and go 5-0 at state then that should enter in to the vote jonny at 60 had aunbeaten season travis had a perfect year and voth had a ubeaten season and warner had a perfect season only giving up 4 points all season and i think those things should enter in to the coaches picks at state look at the upsets if you want to call them upsets i think the kids that won at the state tourney wanted it moore when it came down to it so would not call them upsets those boys just wrestled better for that 6 min what they do in mi is they have a 145 and under and 152 and up  but ithink every kid in the tourney should have been MOW because they all worked thier buts off to get there in the greatest high school sport ever        SO  HATS OFF TO ALL OF YOU    OUTSTANDING JOB

I agree, just wanted to chime in that Elliott Martin was also undefeated and only gave up 1 take down this year, I know normally a 103 wouldn't get MOW but I'm very proud of him for wrestling a great season, and congratulations to everyone who participated this season.

I have to say Peace i mean he pretty much dominated his way through with his closet match being an 8 point interval

sullivan didnt look very "outstanding" in the finals,he still won but he dindt deserve it, zarth won the hardest weight class and made it look easy,, thats outstanding

Like I said, WOW not MOW. If you don't think coming back like that isn't outstanding, I guess you have your opinion. It made the rest of the finals boring in comparison. I'll say this, if he hadn't come back, the MOW would have and should have gone to Whitley Co.

Wolseifer was dominant, controlling and mean. He made a statement when he wrestled that no one will ever challenge him. I like his style of wrestling. He didn't deserve MOW simply because he ran from the kid in the last 6 seconds which was unnecessary. If it weren't for his last 6 seconds, he should have been MOW.

Sullivan was very lucky in the finals match. I think he will be challenged a lot next year, especially if he moves up to 119

Wolseifer was dominant, controlling and mean. He made a statement when he wrestled that no one will ever challenge him. I like his style of wrestling. He didn't deserve MOW simply because he ran from the kid in the last 6 seconds which was unnecessary. If it weren't for his last 6 seconds, he should have been MOW.

Johnny is a tremendous wrestler, but I can't agree that 'no one will ever challenge him'.  Scott Wheeler pushed him to the limit.

Wolseifer was dominant, controlling and mean. He made a statement when he wrestled that no one will ever challenge him. I like his style of wrestling. He didn't deserve MOW simply because he ran from the kid in the last 6 seconds which was unnecessary. If it weren't for his last 6 seconds, he should have been MOW.

Though it wasn't the right thing to do, I couldnt help but laugh when wolsiefer started dodging Choate in the last seconds

IMO Nickel was the MOW handsdown.  He showed physical dominance at 215 but more importantly he showed class.

While I agree it was a good match, if Wolsifier hadn't been called for loading infractions 4 times and give three points to wheeler it wouldn't have been as close.  That was one of the matches that I think was a bit inconsistent as far as starting positions.  Why call it then but not in every other match?

Johnny is a tremendous wrestler, but I can't agree that 'no one will ever challenge him'.  Scott Wheeler pushed him to the limit.

Darwin Perez (130) from larue county..shocked 90 of the people in the state..yea he beat eck in the region finals..and then showed up again at state..he should be somewhere in the running..

OMG. TRAVIS SULLIVAN WITHOUT A DOUBT. geeze. nobody gave him respect whne he came into high school and he just killed everyone at the satte trounament. everyone said he was gonna get beat by carr this year and carr only took 7th. and if you say that his finals match is lucky after he got choked out and wrestled extremly smart and kept wrestling the hole match and worked his way on top and then pinned evans then you guys arent verry smart, or you just dont like o face the facts. i think travis sullivan should have been an abvious mow champ

OMG. TRAVIS SULLIVAN WITHOUT A DOUBT. geeze. nobody gave him respect whne he came into high school and he just killed everyone at the satte trounament. everyone said he was gonna get beat by carr this year and carr only took 7th. and if you say that his finals match is lucky after he got choked out and wrestled extremly smart and kept wrestling the hole match and worked his way on top and then pinned evans then you guys arent verry smart, or you just dont like o face the facts. i think travis sullivan should have been an abvious mow champ

No its just the fact he was getting beat badly and then stuck the kid its not that impressive...not taking away from sullivan hes the man but the kid from whitley wanted it more!

IMO Travis Sullivan got extremely lucky, DC Evans was handling him....with the way he was shooting that double leg..he should have cut him and played it safe

IMO Travis Sullivan got extremely lucky, DC Evans was handling him....with the way he was shooting that double leg..he should have cut him and played it safe

yea but im sure that travis could have picked top in another period if that kept happening to him

travis did not get lucky at all. he kept wrestling the whole match like good wrestlers do and it worked for him. evans loosened up and went in stall mode and stoped wrestling and travis kept going. sounds like to me your just mad that he lost

is travis not a senior?

IMO Nickel was the MOW handsdown.  He showed physical dominance at 215 but more importantly he showed class.

yes he did show class but he got to lucky this week. only winning by 1 and 2 points.

travis did not get lucky at all. he kept wrestling the whole match like good wrestlers do and it worked for him. evans loosened up and went in stall mode and stoped wrestling and travis kept going. sounds like to me your just mad that he lost

how is climbing out of a guilotine to get on top of someone for the pin stalling,did u even watch the match tahts how he got turned, if he would hav stalled out in the guilotine sullivan wouldnt have gotten out and why would ucwrestler125 be mad a whitley county wrestler lost?

travis did not get lucky at all. he kept wrestling the whole match like good wrestlers do and it worked for him. evans loosened up and went in stall mode and stoped wrestling and travis kept going. sounds like to me your just mad that he lost

Stall mode?? Evans was winning the match and was on top.  He threw in a leg and turned Sullivan to his back.  That doesn't sound like stall mode to me.  If he wanted to stall he could have grabbed a one on one and held on for a ride, instead he went for the pin.  If he wanted to stall he could have cut him and wrestled defensively on his feet.  There is no way Evans was stalling he was wrestling great and Sullivan worked his was off of his back.  I wouldn't call it luck because Travis is a great wrestler but I definately would not call it stalling on Evans part!!!

sullivan really put on a good show but the refs didnt call stalling on evans near enough. great job sullivan. congrats

If you wanna talk about stalling then you have to mention the 140 finals match. I didn't think it was respectful of Peace to do what he did at the end of the match. It didn't appear that he was doing anything defensively or offensively. He just flatened comlpetely out and stalled. Ahead in points or not, that wasn't cool.

Were it not for Mitch Ervin's win in the finals, Union Co. wouldn't have had enough points to win the team title. Not only was that an outstanding win individually, but clinching his team's championship with the 1st place points gives this young man the undisputed outstanding wrestler of the tournament honors.

What a class act!! Union County, we are humbled by the sportsmanship and honor you have brought to our beloved sport. The way that the Ervins continue to give back to wreslting and their community is nothing short of majestic. You are an inspiration. Thank you!!!!

yes he did show class but he got to lucky this week. only winning by 1 and 2 points.

are you kidding me? how did he get lucky? he showed up to wrestle at state like everyone knew he would, he wrestled his style, fast and capatilizing off others mistakes. how is winning by just 1 or 2 points lucky? it would take forever to count this years state champs that won matches by 1 or 2 points. he beat the 2nd ranked kid and the 7th ranked kid and then deon chaney who was ranked liked 5th i think? he just showed up totally focused and should have won MOW easily, and hes my pick to won state champion next year at 215.

Bulldog215,  How do you figure Nickel got lucky this week.  He pinned his first two opponents.  He beat Winter 10-3, He beat Shipp 8-3 (the score on khsaa is wrong! it wasn't 3-1), and he handled Chaney 10-4.  How do you figure he got lucky?

There is no need to pay attention to this guy. Derek Nickel dominated, desevered gold, and, in my opinion, should have walked away with most outstanded wrestler. Period. Mitch Ervin wrestled great and secured his teams victory but wasn't he also pick to win state by most people? Derek came out of nowhere and made his run to the top look easy. Maybe next year he'll come back and show people just how "lucky" he is by taking some more hardware home.

Mitch Ervin wrestled great and secured his teams victory but wasn't he also pick to win state by most people?

I think that most people thought that Banks would walk away with the title when Cooper was unable to participate in the tourney.

why did mich irvin win MOW he had a week weight class besides banks ryan dylan goldsby and hichings

I think that most people thought that Banks would walk away with the title when Cooper was unable to participate in the tourney.

Agree, This is why Irvin should get kudos

I agree, I thought 152 was a weak weight class as well, I think some 145's could have jumped up and competed with them too. 

why did mich irvin win MOW he had a week weight class besides banks ryan dylan goldsby and hichings

how is climbing out of a guilotine to get on top of someone for the pin stalling,did u even watch the match tahts how he got turned, if he would hav stalled out in the guilotine sullivan wouldnt have gotten out and why would ucwrestler125 be mad a whitley county wrestler lost?

d.c evans went into to stall mode. some of you guys dont think. not travis. why the heck would travis start stalling when hes losing by six. come on use your head.

No wrestler was stalling in that match! it was exciting, Evans handled Sullivan for over 5 minutes and made 1 mistake, and Sullivan had the Endurance to pull it together and stick him. I admire Sullivan for keeping his cool and wrestling ALL six minutes. I will say i hope these two meet up next year. Fireworks!

Derek Nickel was great, but MOW? How technical is he compared to Mitch Ervin, Johnny Wolsiefer, Bryan Peace, Courtney? He was the shocker of the tourney, and the biggest surprise, but the MOW isn't who defied the most odds to win state, it's who won state in most impressive manner. If you want to judge scores it should Reid or Sullivan ( both 3pins, 1tech, and 1 dec) or maybe Zarth who only had two points scored on him the WHOlE tourney. Not taking from Derek Nickel, i'm glad Doss got a champ, and congrats to him. Just understand MOW is MOST outstanding wrestler, not just AN outstanding wrestler.

My personal vote is stretched between Ervin and Zarth.

I thought alot were deserving, so many talented kids in the finals!

IMO, Mitch Ervin is the MOW, he looked great against as tough an opponent (Pat Banks) as anyone had in the finals plus he had the pressure of the team title to think about, no pressure there, haha. He came through in a big big way! 

let me get this right Nickle MOW maybe lets see;

he pinned his first two opponents

beat the 2nd ranked wrestler 10-3

beat the 9th ranked wrestler 8-3

beat the 3rd ranked wrestler 10-4

sounds pretty impressive to me.

But wasn't the MOW already awarded. Did Ervin win it. Everybody that won could have people saying they should have been awarded the MOW but only one is given out and it went to ERVIN so enough done about grt. I am sure everyone that won is happy and not that mad or sad they didn't get MOW. I to the best of my knowledge the awrd and the tournament is over and no body can take the MOW away. So let it be.

Were it not for Mitch Ervin's win in the finals, Union Co. wouldn't have had enough points to win the team title. Not only was that an outstanding win individually, but clinching his team's championship with the 1st place points gives this young man the undisputed outstanding wrestler of the tournament honors.

What a class act!! Union County, we are humbled by the sportsmanship and honor you have brought to our beloved sport. The way that the Ervins continue to give back to wreslting and their community is nothing short of majestic. You are an inspiration. Thank you!!!!

going into the finals Union County had 144 pts, North Hardin had 129.5 pts, Woodford had 127 pts. with N.H. losing both matches in the finals they picked up 0 pts, Woodford has 3 finalist H.C. major dec pick up 1 pt + 4 more for 1st, Starks & Byrd wins were close no extra pts but 4+4 for 1st that gave them 140 pts, so even if Mitch would have lost UNION would have still BEAT Woodford

going into the finals Union County had 144 pts, North Hardin had 129.5 pts, Woodford had 127 pts. with N.H. losing both matches in the finals they picked up 0 pts, Woodford has 3 finalist H.C. major dec pick up 1 pt + 4 more for 1st, Starks & Byrd wins were close no extra pts but 4+4 for 1st that gave them 140 pts, so even if Mitch would have lost UNION would have still BEAT Woodford

yeah i was going to point that out, you beat me to it. in my opininion voth could have also gotten the mow by going undefeated the entire season and dominating his finals match. he didnt dominate as much as other people in the finals and others were undefeated, but i will admit, i just like voth. so i guess im a little biased. :-D

going into the finals Union County had 144 pts, North Hardin had 129.5 pts, Woodford had 127 pts. with N.H. losing both matches in the finals they picked up 0 pts, Woodford has 3 finalist H.C. major dec pick up 1 pt + 4 more for 1st, Starks & Byrd wins were close no extra pts but 4+4 for 1st that gave them 140 pts, so even if Mitch would have lost UNION would have still BEAT Woodford

Yes Union would have still beat Woodford if Ervin lost but they did not know that at the time.  The team scores when Ervin started wrestling were 140 Union 132 Woodford (Courtney had already won).

If Ervin would have lost and both starks and Byrd pinned there would have been a tie for 1st. Both Starks and Byrd earning 4 placement points for 1st and 2 extra points each for a pin. 144 Union 144 Woodford. 

When Ervin won he clinched the sole title for Union.

How many titles does that give the Erivin Clan???

6 total

Tim-1977

Robert-1981,1982

Brad-1992

Max-2005

Mitch-2007

if we had 140 points when mitch started wrestling how did he pick up 8 pts? Union had 144 when that match started and when it was over we pick up the other 4 for 1st place giving us 148

if we had 140 points when mitch started wrestling how did he pick up 8 pts? Union had 144 when that match started and when it was over we pick up the other 4 for 1st place giving us 148

Placement points?

i think the way it works is the points for a second place finish are award in advance of the finals because you have earned no less than second place....when you win the extra 4 points are awarded for the first place finish....... :|

So, because Ervin clinched the title for Union Co. that makes him MOW?  Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Ervin winning the award.  Union Co. & the Ervins are a class act and it's good to see them on top.  However, the award doesn't go to who helped their team win (Ervin) or who had the most shocking performance (Nickel, although to those of us associated with Doss this was no surprise).  The MOW belongs the the wrestler who had the 5 most outstanding matches for the weekend.  By that criteria, I think the award has to go to Elliott Martin or Mason Reid.  Martin was never in trouble in any of his matches and only gave up 1 point for the whole tournament!  Mason Reid had 3 pins, including one in the finals & a major decision.  He was never in danger of losing a match.  The closest anyone came to him was the 7-1 decision he had over Ben Rupp.  You can make a case for almost any one of the 14 wrestlers, but IMO Martin & Reid were the two most outstanding & dominant.

I think it would be very hard to give the MOW to a 103.  And Mason Reid is a very good wrestler but 171 was probally the weakest weight in the state.  My vote for MOW is between Zarth( he was very dominate throughout the whole year), Courtney, or Ervin

I think it would be very hard to give the MOW to a 103.  And Mason Reid is a very good wrestler but 171 was probally the weakest weight in the state.  My vote for MOW is between Zarth( he was very dominate throughout the whole year), Courtney, or Ervin

Wow, 171 the weakest weight in the state?

Wow, it's seriously one of the most competitive in the state by far.

Maybe not because it doesn't have the Sullivan's and Wolsifier's in it does not mean it isn't a hard weight class, Reid is a beast and would give anyone a run for their money pound for pound in the state.

I can think of 3 or 4 weights off the top of my head that were far less competitive and tough than 171.

I'd have to give the MOW to Voth.  He dominated the weight class all year, was a senior (like it or not traditionally seniors get the award), and won the tournament in convincing fashion.

With regards to Ervin and the team title, in order for Woodford to eclipse Union they would have at least had to pick up two pins and a tech fall, and Ervin had to lose.  However with Courtney only winning by a major decision a loss by Ervin and pins by Starks and Byrd would have tied the score.  At the time when Ervin wrestled his win clinched the team title, making it mathematically impossible for Woodford to catch them.  Even though I am a Woodford graduate and help out with the team when I'm home it was good to see Union Co. win the title.  The whole team and their fans seem like a class act and they deserved it.  However look out, next year we're comin for you.

Counldn't agree more.  Union County and their fans have always been a class act.

Maybe they will be really good over the next 15 years and people will start to hate them too :-D

Congrats to them again.

For all the older generation, Union was hated along with Hoptown for a period of time.

It's kind of funny to see how things change after so many years.

Also, I'm surprised you Woodford guys mind Union County winning, seeing how it was a Union kid that

took down Joe. All  in good wrestling though. I have always enjoyed the battles that we have

had against each other. Sometimes heated rivals can be friends later, I guess.

Now that I think about it, Derek Nickel could have easily won the MOW.  I know it usually goes to a senior, but Nickel did not give up a takedown the whole tournament.  That's pretty impressive for a 215.  He was not scored on in his first two matches.  He gave up three points to Winter (All escapes), three points to Shipp (2 escapes and an unnecessary roughness) and four points to Chaney (All escapes).  No gave up no takedowns, no reversals and definitely no near fall.  That is a good case for MOW.

Nickel was the most outstanding for this tournament.  Lowest ranked wrestler to ever win state.  That alone is outstanding.  Also Ervin helped his team win state, but now people know that Doss High exists and has kids that work their tails off.  Its good to have kids like the ervins and nickels in KY they make us look good.  Too close to call but I am bias so I vote nickel.

For all the older generation, Union was hated along with Hoptown for a period of time.

It's kind of funny to see how things change after so many years.

Also, I'm surprised you Woodford guys mind Union County winning, seeing how it was a Union kid that

took down Joe. All  in good wrestling though. I have always enjoyed the battles that we have

had against each other. Sometimes heated rivals can be friends later, I guess.

Everyone should still hate Hoptown. I do.  :mrgreen:

You can through Robbie Wedding (brother in law) in there with the Ervins. He won in 80 or 81 at 167.

You can through Robbie Wedding (brother in law) in there with the Ervins. He won in 80 or 81 at 167.

this is turning into the wrestling mafia!

Robbie Wedding's son Tanner recently got 8th in state in Indiana at 160. He was a middle school state champ for Union 2 years ago. They are everywhere.

Robbie's youngest son Logan won Ky. Middle School title this year too.

I believe Mitch Ervin deserved. not only did he come out of one of the toughest draws. He also beat tough match john golsby, blake sheehan (by a 1min pin might i add), and advancing to state champ over Pat Banks as an underdog winning 6-4.

Congrats to Mitch Ervin, but I disagree that he was the Most Outstanding Wrestler of the tournament. I honestly think the two reasons he won it are because he beat Banks, and because his team won the tournament. Matt Zarth dominated his weight class, which was widely considered the hardest in the state. Also, Harrison Courtney showed some great poise and focus in his semi-finals match against Thuneman. That was the most exciting match of the tournament. Courtney could have won MOW.

well one. no coach knew that union was going to be decided winner till after it was announced. by then the mow votes where in. so i doubt that was a factor. and Pat Banks is an exceptional wrestle placing what 2nd last year. thats an accomplishment.  i agree with zarth allowing to be scored on only once.beating a previous state champ. and 2 of the other 3 remaining top ranked people ( excluding him and wood). also the courtney over thueneman was amazing. especially coming up with the pin in ot. i agree he had potential for mow. but you have to take in consederation of who else he wrestled to get there.

the only reason i think courtney pinned him was because he ahd given up already because he lost the match. i think if he had him on his back in like the 2nd period thuenament would have fought off. this probably sounds like an excuse, but courtney should get no more credit for pinning him than he already does for the win. and i give him tons of credit for the win anyway, it was a great match.