They will be facing this weekend at the Gable Series @ Union Co. Who do you think will win?

Id put my money on Wolseifer but Ervin will put up a tough match.

wolsiefer

They will be facing this weekend at the Gable Series @ Union Co. Who do you think will win?

Shouldn't this be a poll?

im goin wiht wolsifer. This should be a poll though. just gettin that out in the open.

Let the votes begin

They will be facing this weekend at the Gable Series @ Union Co. Who do you think will win?

i have wolseifer sticking ervin, although ervin has stuck top dogs like Sheehan, and also Wolseifer only beat LaRue by a little, it going to come out with Wolseifer. :mrgreen:

I'm not sure Sheehan was a top dog, but Ervin defeated a dangerous Golsby (who seemed to be at his best during that match), and he did defeat Banks and even put him on his back. 

I think many would think that Banks could give Wolsiefer a good match, why not Ervin? 

I'm gonna try to go up there and watch that.

Wrestling begins at 10 am central time, 11 eastern. If anyone wants to wrestle then they can weigh in at their home site and call Coach Walls (270)952-0483 or Coach Robert Ervin (270)997-0203 and tell them the weigh ins as well as age group. Every wrestler needs to report there by 9 am at Union County High School. Make sure you get there in time to see the Mitch and Johnny matchup.

This is one of those match ups that will produce a new winner every time.  I don't think this is a predictable match.  Good luck to both guys they are both two of the best this state has to offer.  I will not even guess because I automaticaly secound guess my choice.  We will have to see who comes out on top.(this time) :?

I'm gonna try to go up there and watch that.

before you make a trip to union specifically for this match, i should tell you john wolsiefer is signed up for the wrestling clinic at Trinity this Saturday, so it does not appear this match will take place this weekend.  Unless he's a no show at Trinity, it doesn't look like there will be an "Ervin vs. Wolseifer" match unless it's at Trinity.  Would love to have Ervin at Trinity...but I doubt he will be there (since his school is hosting a tourney).  I would love to learn that tilt he used in the finals against Banks.  That made my knee ache just watching it.

before you make a trip to union specifically for this match, i should tell you john wolsiefer is signed up for the wrestling clinic at Trinity this Saturday, so it does not appear this match will take place this weekend.  Unless he's a no show at Trinity, it doesn't look like there will be an "Ervin vs. Wolseifer" match unless it's at Trinity.  Would love to have Ervin at Trinity...but I doubt he will be there (since his school is hosting a tourney).  I would love to learn that tilt he used in the finals against Banks.  That made my knee ache just watching it.

Which tilt? You're not talkin' about the laces he had in are you? That was pretty sweet too.

Which tilt? You're not talkin' about the laces he had in are you? That was pretty sweet too.

That's probably a more accurate description of what he did, it was the main thing i seen Ervin use on top in the finals.  I called it a tilt because it was a way to score back points, without necessarily getting a pin...and I didn't know what else to call it.  :-D  Something about the way Banks' knee looked...made me think it wasn't a very comfortable position to be in. 

Yea. I've been workin' lots of stuff like that lately. They're on their hands and i'm behind. Then I pick up the legs [wheel barrow position] and I have all kinds of tilts and stuff I can do. It's a great position once you learn how to use it.

does anybody know if this match ever occurred?

I don't think so, Johnny was at Trinity at 1pm on Saturday, so I doubt he went to Union in the early a.m. then went to Trinity.

I'm not sure Sheehan was a top dog, but Ervin defeated a dangerous Golsby (who seemed to be at his best during that match), and he did defeat Banks and even put him on his back. 

I think many would think that Banks could give Wolsiefer a good match, why not Ervin? 

Ervin did not defeat a Dangeruos Golsby, he was Defeated by a Dangerous Golsby whose hand just didnt happen to get raised... lets not forget this was ref'd by good ole'  "JCa'tan"...

just pointing out that you mixed your props up wrong...

Ervin did not defeat a Dangeruos Golsby, he was Defeated by a Dangerous Golsby whose hand just didnt happen to get raised... lets not forget this was ref'd by good ole'  "JCa'tan"...

just pointing out that you mixed your props up wrong...

I watched that match very closely, and thought the same thing - that Golsby had to score SOMETHING at the end of the match....however, i spoke to someone who watched that match on film after it was all settled and said there was nothing called wrong at the end of that match.  It was VERY close, but no points could have been awarded at the end that were not awarded.  I wanted to dispute that...but it's hard to argue a call with someone who has watched it over and over on video when all I have is my biased, fading memory.  This was a person who was very much on Golsby's side.  I have to believe that was the right call.  Either way, that was probably the most interesting weight class in the state this year I thought. 

If Golsby legitemently lost that match, then there is no reason for anyone to beleive that Sullivan is something great by comming back on D.C. Evens to win, when that match is displayed on the enternet and the right shoulder of Dalton is a very clear 4-5 inches from the mat.

There wear many matches at state so Jeperodized by the reffing jobs, that any better offciating colud have effected who may have been state champ or runner up this year.

The Dalton Evens-Travis Sullivan and John Golsby-Mitch Ervin matches are the most obvious two.

If Golsby legitemently lost that match, then there is no reason for anyone to beleive that Sullivan is something great by comming back on D.C. Evens to win, when that match is displayed on the enternet and the right shoulder of Dalton is a very clear 4-5 inches from the mat.

There wear many matches at state so Jeperodized by the reffing jobs, that any better offciating colud have effected who may have been state champ or runner up this year.

The Dalton Evens-Travis Sullivan and John Golsby-Mitch Ervin matches are the most obvious two.

Where did you see the video of Sullivan and Evans?

Where did you see the video of Sullivan and Evans?

Go to search and type in "video state coverage". Click on the state highlight video link. The sight has updated it to something else and it's not the wrestling videos. So, scroll down a little and it has a list of events. Click on high school wrestling state. Then, you can choose from several videos featuring different weight classes. Each video has more than one weight. It should be the second video. I think the first one is awards. Not sure though.

If Golsby legitemently lost that match, then there is no reason for anyone to beleive that Sullivan is something great by comming back on D.C. Evens to win, when that match is displayed on the enternet and the right shoulder of Dalton is a very clear 4-5 inches from the mat.

There wear many matches at state so Jeperodized by the reffing jobs, that any better offciating colud have effected who may have been state champ or runner up this year.

The Dalton Evens-Travis Sullivan and John Golsby-Mitch Ervin matches are the most obvious two.

Whoa. Thanks for pointing that out Titan. I never noticed that before. He was not even close to being stuck. He was way up off the mat.

Here's the link: http://www.kentuckyyouthsports.net/Highlights/wrestling/highstatewrestling2-17-07.html

I'm not 100% convinced he wasn't pinned. You can't really tell from that angle. However, It is Catan and we know he is consistent

When his shoulders go out of sight they are not down. After the ref smacks the mat Evans does NOT MOVE ONE INCH. He stays exactley where he is and when it comes into view he shoulders are waaaaaay off the mat. They hardly even below 90 degrees in reference to the mat. That position was barely one that should have been awarded nearfall. Let alone a pin.

Ervin did not defeat a Dangerous Golsby, he was Defeated by a Dangerous Golsby whose hand just didn't happen to get raised... lets not forget this was ref'd by good ole'  "JCa'tan"...

just pointing out that you mixed your props up wrong...

I would like to put this to rest quickly.  Even though I would love to think otherwise Golsby did NOT win that match.  As his coach and the one who has the video of the match (the one Pioneer pride was referring to) , I would love to have seen something that would have proved that John would have earned at least a point for the overtime.  (Even when I was on the mat, directly next to the call I thought it was the correct call.)

P.S.  It was not the infamous Cattan officiating the match it was Barnett.  And like I told him the next morning when we talked.  "I was happy that it was him officiating the match, that way there would be less controversy on the call". 

So lets put this to rest.  Ervin earned all that he received.  He defeated John, (which may have been Johns best match of all time) and defeated a Banks that no-one thought he would beat. 

When his shoulders go out of sight they are not down. After the ref smacks the mat Evans does NOT MOVE ONE INCH. He stays exactley where he is and when it comes into view he shoulders are waaaaaay off the mat. They hardly even below 90 degrees in reference to the mat. That position was barely one that should have been awarded nearfall. Let alone a pin.

He shouldn't have been there in the first place.  Not to mention in the state finals.

Neither should Sullivan. :-D. lol. Just playin'. I'm sure someones gonna say "Why weren't you in the finals?" or somethin'. I just don't think  Dalton lost that match. I respect Sullivan more than you could believe. I mean, to fight through that struggle and come back in the third period to put the kid to his back. But i'm just not convenced that Dalton was anywhere near pinned.

Dats cuz he was not pinned! And Dalton very much deserved to be in the Finals and Be A STATE CHAMPION! His only loses all year were only to Travis Sullivan... and he friggen ate his childeren in the Finals at State.

It is pretty obvious from the video that evans was not pinned.  Tough break.. :|

Dats cuz he was not pinned! And Dalton very much deserved to be in the Finals and Be A STATE CHAMPION! His only loses all year were only to Travis Sullivan... and he friggen ate his childeren in the Finals at State.

Disgruntled fan? The fact of the matter is the match is over he lost. If I were Evans right now that would just give me that much more motivation to get that much better and beat Travis next year. In fact that's the only thing he can do because after a loss like I know for sure that he's not sitting at home sulking and whining about the loss. As for the eating of the children let "special" individuals that like to bite ears off make remarks like that.

Also how did this subject get up this post is about ERVIN VS. WOLSIFER the last time i checked.

Also how did this subject get up this post is about ERVIN VS. WOLSIFER the last time i checked.

Kentuckywrestling.com is like a science class that is being taught by and old, crazy person. You ask a question about nuclear fission and that leads to WW2 and that leads to guns and that leads to a story about Jimmy's first white tail hunt and that leads to someone asking "how does a deer run through the woods that fast without poking it's eyes out on the branches?". lol. Topics change alot. Just be glad that there is any interest on here to begin with. No matter how misplaced and off topic it is.

Kentuckywrestling.com is like a science class that is being taught by and old, crazy person. You ask a question about nuclear fission and that leads to WW2 and that leads to guns and that leads to a story about Jimmy's first white tail hunt and that leads to someone asking "how does a deer run through the woods that fast without poking it's eyes out on the branches?". lol. Topics change alot. Just be glad that there is any interest on here to begin with. No matter how misplaced and off topic it is.

Man, that really struck me as funny.  Gotta get a +1 on the karma meter for it.

"how does a deer run through the woods that fast without poking it's eyes out on the branches?".

I never thought about it.  How does a deer run through the woods without poking its eyes out?  Does anyone know :-D

Also how did this subject get up this post is about ERVIN VS. WOLSIFER the last time i checked.

Ervin vs. Wolsifer is an old warn out topic already and i am not sure why it even came up. The bottem line would have been, Ervin would be beaten by Wolsifer miserably. People capable of beating Wolsifer dont grow on trees... we havent wittness very many. The majority of his loses are to somebody whose name is Cooper, which is pretty impressive if ya ask me, because you dont just coincidicialy run into an awsome kid named Cooper wherever you go. Him and Ervin wrestle... 15 takedowns later... Match ends. 30-15, Wolsifer. Duh.

Back to Dalton... lol