Who are the top 3 wrestlers in the state in each weight Class?
Top 3
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these are my picks in this order
103
1. shawn johnson
2. jarvis elam
3. myron bradbury
112
1.aaron carr
2. ross carp.-fraser
3.dan smith
119
1.elliot martin
2.travis sullivan
3.dalton evans ( could change depending on how they meet up in the bracket)
125
1.matt zarth
2.coty vinsant
3.jon voth
130
1.trey morlett
2.coty lewis
3.tyler grimm
135
1.luke ervin
2.dusty brown
3.zach poultan
140
1.bryan peace
2.josh ashbrook
3.issac ervin
145
1.beau sanders
2.dakota coate
3.donnell davis
152
1.harrison courtney
2.ben barger
3.tim winchester
160
1.mitch ervin
2.john wolseifer
3.ty wolfe
171
1.mason reid
2.brad hitchings
3.cody lassigne
189
1.ryan kelly
2.mark jones
3.ryan houchens
215
1.matt green
2.derek nickle
3.adam dials
285
1.billy fuller
2.anthony baily
3.will smith
now these could change based on the way the brackets fall. like last year john wolseifer had to wrestle the larue kid in the second round and he would have beaten choate for sure. so it's all how the brackets fall.
103
1. Shawn Johnson(SENA)
2. Myron Bradbury(TRI)
3. Jarvis Elam(UC)
112
1. Travis Sullivan(WAYN)
2. Elliot Martin(SENA)
3. Aaron Carr(UC)
119
1. Dalton Evans(WHC)
2. Bryan Daniels(WAYN)
3. Shane Parks(WC)
125
1. Matt Zarth(HC)
2. Matt Slone(SC)
3. Coty Vinsant(WAYN)
130
1. Tyler Grimm(JC)
2. Trey Morlatt(OC)
2. Josh Johnson(JOHN)
135
1. Justin Davis(EAS)
2. Zach Poulton(SENA)
3. Luke Ervin(UC)
140
1. Bryan Peace(RYLE)
2. Isaac Ervin(UC)
3. Josh Ashbrooke(HAR)
145
1. Dakoda Choate(PRP)
2. Beau Sanders(HAR)
3. Donnell Davis(PDUN)
152
1. Harrison Courtney(WC)
2. Ben Barger(FC)
3. Cory Armstrong(CHC)
160
1. John Wolsiefer(FERN)
2. Mitch Ervin(UC)
3. Blake Sheehan(WC)
171
1. Mason Reid(RYLE)
2. Brad Hitchings(TRI)
3. Cody Lasseigne(SO)
189
1. Mark Jones(NH)
2. Ryan Houchens(SO)
3. Ryan Kelly(SC)
215
1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
285
1. Anthony Bailey(FTK)
2. Billy Fuller(CC)
3. Tony Turner(SK)
103
1.Myron Bradbury(TRI)
2. Jarvis Elam(UC)
3. Shawn Johnson(SENA)
112
1. Travis Sullivan(WAYN)
2. Elliot Martin(SENA)
3. Aaron Carr(UC)
119
1. Dalton Evans(WHC)
2. Bryan Daniels(WAYN)
3. Shane Parks(WC)
125
1. Matt Zarth(HC)
2. Matt Slone(SC)
3. Coty Vinsant(WAYN)
130
1. Coty Lewis(Wood)
2. Trey Morlatt(OC)
2. Josh Johnson(JOHN)
135
1. Justin Davis(EAS)
2. Zach Poulton(SENA)
3. Luke Ervin(UC)
140
1. Bryan Peace(RYLE)
2. Isaac Ervin(UC)
3. Josh Ashbrooke(HAR)
145
1. Dakoda Choate(PRP)
2. Beau Sanders(HAR)
3. Donnell Davis(PDUN)
152
1. Harrison Courtney(WC)
2. Ben Barger(FC)
3. Cory Armstrong(CHC)
160
1. John Wolsiefer(FERN)
2. Mitch Ervin(UC)
3. Blake Sheehan(WC)
171
1. Mason Reid(RYLE)
2. Brad Hitchings(TRI)
3. Cody Lasseigne(SO)
189
1. Mark Jones(NH)
2. Ryan Houchens(SO)
3. Ryan Kelly(SC)
215
1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
285
1. Anthony Bailey(FTK)
2. Billy Fuller(CC)
3. Tony Turner(SK)
103
1.Myron Bradbury(TRI)
2. Jarvis Elam(UC)
3. Shawn Johnson(SENA)
112
1. Travis Sullivan(WAYN)
2. Elliot Martin(SENA)
3. Aaron Carr(UC)
119
1. Dalton Evans(WHC)
2. Bryan Daniels(WAYN)
3. Shane Parks(WC)
125
1. Matt Zarth(HC)
2. Matt Slone(SC)
3. Coty Vinsant(WAYN)
130
1. Coty Lewis(Wood)
2. Trey Morlatt(OC)
2. Josh Johnson(JOHN)
135
1. Justin Davis(EAS)
2. Zach Poulton(SENA)
3. Luke Ervin(UC)
140
1. Bryan Peace(RYLE)
2. Isaac Ervin(UC)
3. Josh Ashbrooke(HAR)
145
1. Dakoda Choate(PRP)
2. Beau Sanders(HAR)
3. Donnell Davis(PDUN)
152
1. Harrison Courtney(WC)
2. Ben Barger(FC)
3. Cory Armstrong(CHC)
160
1. John Wolsiefer(FERN)
2. Mitch Ervin(UC)
3. Blake Sheehan(WC)
171
1. Mason Reid(RYLE)
2. Brad Hitchings(TRI)
3. Cody Lasseigne(SO)
189
1. Mark Jones(NH)
2. Ryan Houchens(SO)
3. Ryan Kelly(SC)
215
1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
285
1. Anthony Bailey(FTK)
2. Billy Fuller(CC)
3. Tony Turner(SK)
215
1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
hey didnt DEREK NICKEL beat Deon Chaney ?? so how you got him 2 JW
these are my picks in this order
103
1. shawn johnson
2. jarvis elam
3. myron bradbury
112
1.aaron carr
2. ross carp.-fraser
3.dan smith
i agree with some of these but i dont see mat miller on here and i dont see elam being 103 he was pushing it this year
119
1.elliot martin
2.travis sullivan
3.dalton evans ( could change depending on how they meet up in the bracket)
125
1.matt zarth
2.coty vinsant
3.jon voth
130
1.trey morlett
2.coty lewis
3.tyler grimm
135
1.luke ervin
2.dusty brown
3.zach poultan
140
1.bryan peace
2.josh ashbrook
3.issac ervin
145
1.beau sanders
2.dakota coate
3.donnell davis
152
1.harrison courtney
2.ben barger
3.tim winchester
160
1.mitch ervin
2.john wolseifer
3.ty wolfe
171
1.mason reid
2.brad hitchings
3.cody lassigne
189
1.ryan kelly
2.mark jones
3.ryan houchens
215
1.matt green
2.derek nickle
3.adam dials
285
1.billy fuller
2.anthony baily
3.will smith
now these could change based on the way the brackets fall. like last year john wolseifer had to wrestle the larue kid in the second round and he would have beaten choate for sure. so it's all how the brackets fall.
So you think Wheeler would have easily beaten Choate. I could definitely see it happening. Wheeler really gave Johnny a run for his money at state. But why was he facing Wolseifer in the 2nd round? It was because he lost to Wolfe in the Regional finals. I believe Choate was 3-0 against Wolfe this year. Choate is a good wrestler he is just not real flashy. Be careful not to underestimate him.
215
1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
hey didnt DEREK NICKEL beat Deon Chaney ?? so how you got him 2 JW
I know. Alot of people are puttin' Deon above Derek. I could understand it maybe if the match was close but Derek flat out dominated. No way will Chaney beat him next season.
I know. Alot of people are puttin' Deon above Derek. I could understand it maybe if the match was close but Derek flat out dominated. No way will Chaney beat him next season.
Yes Derek did dominate in the Stat Finals where it matters most. But Deon did beat Derek at the King of the Bluegrass last year. Deon can wrestle alot better than he did in State Finals.
Wow where are all the region 6 boys???? :? :-o
You have got to give these kids some consideration (I know some have been mentioned)
Robbie Vaugh 112-119 (Depending where certain wrestlers go he can beat some tough kids)
Dusty Brown 135 (has been mentioned)
Cory Shotwell 135-140 (Was considered maybe a possible state champ last year and now no one is mentioning him)
Brian Peace 140-145 (No brainier)
Kyle Griffith 140-145 (Another kid that can beat some tough competition.)
Ryan Vaughn 152-160 (Wrestled well last year at 160 because Cooper was at 152)
Ryan Dillon 152-160 (Tough competitor can defeat anyone at any time, very dangerous)
Tom Brownfield 160-171 (Another Campbell boy that can win some tough matches)
Mason Reid 171 (No Brainer)
Tony Turner Hwt (A big boy that can make things happen in the top wt. class)
Billy Fuller Hwt (Another opportunist, but can also make things happen)
Wow where are all the region 6 boys???? :? :-o
You have got to give these kids some consideration (I know some have been mentioned)
Robbie Vaugh 112-119 (Depending where certain wrestlers go he can beat some tough kids)
Dusty Brown 135 (has been mentioned)
Cory Shotwell 135-140 (Was considered maybe a possible state champ last year and now no one is mentioning him)
Brian Peace 140-145 (No brainier)
Kyle Griffith 140-145 (Another kid that can beat some tough competition.)
Ryan Vaughn 152-160 (Wrestled well last year at 160 because Cooper was at 152)
Ryan Dillon 152-160 (Tough competitor can defeat anyone at any time, very dangerous)
Tom Brownfield 160-171 (Another Campbell boy that can win some tough matches)
Mason Reid 171 (No Brainer)
Tony Turner Hwt (A big boy that can make things happen in the top wt. class)
Billy Fuller Hwt (Another opportunist, but can also make things happen)
I saw Dusty Brown up at Trinity and he'll be one of the guys to beat next season. He has improved noticably.
A couple of others to mention.
Ben Winkler (SK)
Ilg (Newport) 189
Benson (Dixie) 189 (I thought he graduated but it only lists him as a JR.)
103
Myron Bradbury
Shawn Johnson
Jarvis Elam
112
Aaron Carr
Ross Carpenter-Fraser
Dan Smith
119
Elliott Martin
Travis Sullivan
Shane Parks
125
Matt Zarth
Matt Slone
Jake Wempe
130
Trey Morlatt
Josh Johnson
Luke Ervin
135
Zach Poulton
Dusty Brown
Josh Back
140
Bryan Peace
Isaac Ervin
Josh Ashbrook
145
Beau Sanders
Jamie Pile
Ryan Tingle
152
Mitch Ervin
Dakoda Choate
Ryan Vaughn
160
John Wolsiefer
Ty Wolfe
Blake Sheehan
171
Mason Reid
Cody Lasseigne
Brad Hitchings
189
Ryan Kelly
Mark Jones
Ryan Houchens
215
Derek Nickel
Matt Green
Deon Chaney
285
Anthony Bailey
Billy Fuller
Tony Turner
im glad to see someone put ryan kelly over mark jones. He only was beating jones by like 8 points before his elbow was dislocated and someone needs to put Dials top 3 at 215
What is the argument for Dials being top 3?
i think i did put dials at third
I'm glad to see someone put Ryan Kelly over mark Jones. He only was beating Jones by like 8 points before his elbow was dislocated and someone needs to put Dials top 3 at 215
Well I'll tell you this, like eveyone else i put him on his back. The last time i check the video tape I would have got a five point move, but the match was stop because he yelled out in pain and no points were giving. Let see, i would have let him up which would have gave him a four point lead. then i did it again with the same move. it would have been a five point move again, which lets see puts me up one point. also I put him on his back which would have been the end of the match like the year before when i pinned him. but, lets see his arm gets dislocated. Wow part of the sport things happen. so think what you want, just wait until next year and we will see what happens.
I'm sure Kelly can't wait. UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
The making of a true champion. A person who can overcome a deficit and win in the end. Just like in the Sullivan-Evans match. The winner is the one who gets his hand raised no matter what the score was in the beginning.Well I'll tell you this, like eveyone else i put him on his back. The last time i check the video tape I would have got a five point move, but the match was stop because he yelled out in pain and no points were giving. Let see, i would have let him up which would have gave him a four point lead. then i did it again with the same move. it would have been a five point move again, which lets see puts me up one point. also I put him on his back which would have been the end of the match like the year before when i pinned him. but, lets see his arm gets dislocated. Wow part of the sport things happen. so think what you want, just wait until next year and we will see what happens.
I'm sure Kelly can't wait. UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
Funny anyways im not going to get into it with you over a computer so i will just show you all
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Funny anyways im not going to get into it with you over a computer so i will just show you all
Mitch will be 152/154 and L. Ervin is going 130/132. That should change the top 3. Wempe will be back at 125.
103
Myron Bradbury
Shawn Johnson
Jarvis Elam
112
Aaron Carr
Ross Carpenter-Fraser
Dan Smith
119
Elliott Martin
Travis Sullivan
Shane Parks
125
Matt Zarth
Matt Slone
Jake Wempe
130
Trey Morlatt
Josh Johnson
Luke Ervin
135
Zach Poulton
Dusty Brown
Josh Back
140
Bryan Peace
Isaac Ervin
Josh Ashbrook
145
Beau Sanders
Jamie Pile
Ryan Tingle
152
Mitch Ervin
Dakoda Choate
Ryan Vaughn
160
John Wolsiefer
Ty Wolfe
Blake Sheehan
171
Mason Reid
Cody Lasseigne
Brad Hitchings
189
Ryan Kelly
Mark Jones
Ryan Houchens
215
Derek Nickel
Matt Green
Deon Chaney
285
Anthony Bailey
Billy Fuller
Tony Turner
103
1.Myron Bradbury(TRI)
2. Jarvis Elam(UC)
3. Shawn Johnson(SENA)
112
1. Travis Sullivan(WAYN)
2. Elliot Martin(SENA)
3. Aaron Carr(UC)
119
1. Dalton Evans(WHC)
2. Bryan Daniels(WAYN)
3. Shane Parks(WC)
125
1. Matt Zarth(HC)
2. Matt Slone(SC)
3. Coty Vinsant(WAYN)
130
1. Coty Lewis(Wood)
2. Trey Morlatt(OC)
3. Josh Johnson(JOHN)
135
1.Josh Ashbrooke(HAR)
2. Zach Poulton(SENA)
3. Luke Ervin(UC)
140
1. Bryan Peace(RYLE)
2.Justin Davis(EAS)
3.Isaac Ervin(UC)
145
1.Beau Sanders(HAR)
2. Dakoda Choate(PRP)
3. Donnell Davis(PDUN)
152
1. Harrison Courtney(WC)
2. Ben Barger(FC)
3. Cory Armstrong(CHC)
160
1. John Wolsiefer(FERN)
2. Mitch Ervin(UC)
3. Blake Sheehan(WC)
171
1. Ty Wolfe(NH)
2. Brad Hitchings(TRI)
3. Mason Reid(RYLE)
189
1. Mark Jones(NH)
2. Ryan Houchens(SO)
3. Ryan Kelly(SC)
215
1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
285
1. Anthony Bailey(FTK)
2. Billy Fuller(CC)
3. Tony Turner(SK)
ok there it is the real way its going to go
103
Myron Bradbury
Shawn Johnson
Jarvis Elam
112
Travis Sullivan
Aaron Carr
Ross Carpenter-Fraser
119
Elliott Martin
Bryan Daniels
Caleb Ervin
125
Matt Zarth
Matt Slone
Jake Wempe
130
Trey Morlatt
Tyler Grimm
Josh Johnson
135
Zach Poulton
Dusty Brown
Josh Back
140
Bryan Peace
Isaac Ervin
Josh Ashbrook
145
Beau Sanders
Jamie Pile
Ryan Tingle
152
Harrison Courtney
Dakoda Choate
Ben Barger
160
John Wolsiefer
Mitch Ervin
Tom Brownfield
171
Mason Reid
Brad Hitchings
Cody Lasseigne
189
Ryan Kelly
Mark Jones
Ryan Houchens
215
Derek Nickel
Deon Chaney
Matt Green
285
Anthony Bailey
Billy Fuller
Tony Turner
ok there it is the real way its going to go
103
Myron Bradbury
Shawn Johnson
Jarvis Elam
112
Travis Sullivan
Aaron Carr
Ross Carpenter-Fraser
119
Elliott Martin
Bryan Daniels
Caleb Ervin
125
Matt Zarth
Matt Slone
Jake Wempe
130
Trey Morlatt
Tyler Grimm
Josh Johnson
135
Zach Poulton
Dusty Brown
Josh Back
140
Bryan Peace
Isaac Ervin
Josh Ashbrook
145
Beau Sanders
Jamie Pile
Ryan Tingle
152
Dakoda Choate
Harrison Courtney
Ben Barger
160
John Wolsiefer
Mitch Ervin
Tom Brownfield
171
Mason Reid
Brad Hitchings
Cody Lasseigne
189
Ryan Kelly
Mark Jones
Ryan Houchens
215
Derek Nickel
Deon Chaney
Matt Green
285
Anthony Bailey
Billy Fuller
Tony Turner
It blows me away that anyone would doubt Harrison Courtney or underestimate him. He has been thorougly tested the past 2 years and came out victorious. There are 1 or 2 guys pound for pound that could hang with him in Ky. That's it. Nothing against Choate, but he won't stand a chance against Courtney.
yeah you got a good pointIt blows me away that anyone would doubt Harrison Courtney or underestimate him. He has been thorougly tested the past 2 years and came out victorious. There are 1 or 2 guys pound for pound that could hang with him in Ky. That's it. Nothing against Choate, but he won't stand a chance against Courtney.
That baffles me, I cant believe someone would think Choate would beat Courtney... In case you have forgot, Harrison Courtney, as a freshmen, won the toughest weight class in the state by far, and one of the toughest ever.
I don't know. Me and Choate have been preparin' for Courtney. I've been spottin' him while he does 12 oz curls. He usually does 6-12 sets and falls asleep. lol
ok i like the Choate kid but lets all look at this here i may not be a big woodford fan but he has no chance in :evil: beating Courtney.
We'll see when next season rolls around.
im with danger on this one now i can see Choate beating him in state but not right now, Courtney would win no problem, but i think Choate has a good chance if he keeps practicing hardWe'll see when next season rolls around.
I honestly dont think Courtney will lose in Kentucky for the rest of his career.
We have 3 people in the state that may be unstopable next year.
Sullivan
Peace
Courtney
Woliefer can be on the list if he returns to his Jr. year form. He just did not look that impresive at state last year.
We have 3 people in the state that may be unstopable next year.
Sullivan
Peace
Courtney
Woliefer can be on the list if he returns to his Jr. year form. He just did not look that impresive at state last year.
I'd like to see wolfe vs. wolsifer. I think it will be a close match. Sullivan will have a monkey on his back next year with evans. He's already come out and said hes going where ever sullivan is. HELLO???? Courtney unstoppable??? Last time i checked Mitch Ervin is the defending 152 state champ. Ervin has alot of similarities with Courtney though it will be a close match. Both are mat wrestlers, very experienced leg riders with their long legs and arms. I give Mitch the slight edge though because he's better off of his feet. Courtney doesn't have a cakewalk by far.
Peace will have some competition next year also with Miller having very similar style. Ervin who is very much like his older brother mitch will long legs and arms might throw off peaces short stocky agressive style. ashbroke you cannot forget might be his toughest match i garuntee this kid will be workin his tail off in the off season.
yeah im with you Bear and Elliott Martin will be unstopable tooI'd like to see wolfe vs. wolsifer. I think it will be a close match. Sullivan will have a monkey on his back next year with evans. He's already come out and said hes going where ever sullivan is. HELLO???? Courtney unstoppable??? Last time i checked Mitch Ervin is the defending 152 state champ. Ervin has alot of similarities with Courtney though it will be a close match. Both are mat wrestlers, very experienced leg riders with their long legs and arms. I give Mitch the slight edge though because he's better off of his feet. Courtney doesn't have a cakewalk by far.
Peace will have some competition next year also with Miller having very similar style. Ervin who is very much like his older brother mitch will long legs and arms might throw off peaces short stocky agressive style. ashbroke you cannot forget might be his toughest match i garuntee this kid will be workin his tail off in the off season.
"I'd like to see wolfe vs. wolsifer. I think it will be a close match." Wolsiefer killed him this year at KOB
Courtney will beat Ervin like.. 8-2, 10-2. I dont think anyone remembers that the 2006 145 weight class was absolutely stacked, Ervin placed 6th that year, when Courtney went on to win it.
I just looked it up on KHSAA. Ervin lost to Banks 11-4 then forfieted the rest of the way out. He must have gotten hurt in the match with Banks.
he wrestled either last year or the year before w/ a broken ankle then ended up breaking the other one at state.
I'd like to see wolfe vs. wolsifer. I think it will be a close match. Sullivan will have a monkey on his back next year with evans. He's already come out and said hes going where ever sullivan is. HELLO???? Courtney unstoppable??? Last time i checked Mitch Ervin is the defending 152 state champ. Ervin has alot of similarities with Courtney though it will be a close match. Both are mat wrestlers, very experienced leg riders with their long legs and arms. I give Mitch the slight edge though because he's better off of his feet. Courtney doesn't have a cakewalk by far.
Peace will have some competition next year also with Miller having very similar style. Ervin who is very much like his older brother mitch will long legs and arms might throw off peaces short stocky agressive style. ashbroke you cannot forget might be his toughest match i garuntee this kid will be workin his tail off in the off season.
Last time I checked Courtney is a 2x state champ and ranked 10th in the country, and placed 3rd at nationals?
hes ranked 10th among sophmores. but you cannot say he'll dominate. just look at similar opponents like mitch vs. banks 6-4, courtney vs. banks 4-2. mitch is doing nothing but growing if you see the state results last year banks beat mitch 11-4 the comes back beats him this year.
yeah im with you Bear and Elliott Martin will be unstopable too
I think Elliot better stay at 103 if he wants to be unstoppable because Sullivan would not be beat by Martin. Also if Evans does make it back to `112 he too would beat Elliot, but I am not sure he will make it I heard he was well into the 130's.
your crazy Matin is beater the Evens and probably beater the SullivanI think Elliot better stay at 103 if he wants to be unstoppable because Sullivan would not be beat by Martin. Also if Evans does make it back to `112 he too would beat Elliot, but I am not sure he will make it I heard he was well into the 130's.
your crazy Matin is beater the Evens and probably beater the Sullivan
Like an egg beater?
E.Martin is a good wrestler but he would get beat by sullivan and evans..evans would jus over power martin and take away elliott quickness..sullivan would prolly do the same..but both evans and sullivan would beat martin
what yall are crazyE.Martin is a good wrestler but he would get beat by sullivan and evans..evans would jus over power martin and take away elliott quickness..sullivan would prolly do the same..but both evans and sullivan would beat martin
what yall are crazy
how explain to me how you think the match would go..i jus dont see him beatin sullivan/evans...
hes ranked 10th among sophmores. but you cannot say he'll dominate. just look at similar opponents like mitch vs. banks 6-4, courtney vs. banks 4-2. mitch is doing nothing but growing if you see the state results last year banks beat mitch 11-4 the comes back beats him this year.
Ok first of all, I have loads of respect for Ervin and Courtney. Second of all, ya Ervin is growing, but so is Courtney, 2x state champ. Third of all, Ervin is the one trying to catch Courtney. And Courtney beat Banks 4-2 in the finals of his freshmen year, Ervin beat banks 6-4 his junior year. Fourth of all, 10th among sophmores is still awesome, especially being a middle weight. I dont think they will even be in the same weight class though. Ok, im done, and good luck to Ervin and Courtney, it would be an awesome match.
what yall are crazy
Yeah what Martin were you watching that you think he can beat Evans or Sullivan. I think he probably would have gotten fourth at best at 112 last year. He would not have beaten little Voth either. Martin is a great wrestler but not ready for these three just yet.
Martin would beat Voth and maybe Evans, I dont know about Sullivan. Martin is an all american.
yeah im not to sure about Martin beating Sullivan but i know he can beat Voth and EvensMartin would beat Voth and maybe Evans, I dont know about Sullivan. Martin is an all american.
E.Martin is a good wrestler but he would get beat by sullivan and evans..evans would jus over power martin and take away elliott quickness..sullivan would prolly do the same..but both evans and sullivan would beat martin
u r drunk elliot will run circles around sullivion.
Ok first of all, I have loads of respect for Ervin and Courtney. Second of all, ya Ervin is growing, but so is Courtney, 2x state champ. Third of all, Ervin is the one trying to catch Courtney. And Courtney beat Banks 4-2 in the finals of his freshmen year, Ervin beat banks 6-4 his junior year. Fourth of all, 10th among sophmores is still awesome, especially being a middle weight. I dont think they will even be in the same weight class though. Ok, im done, and good luck to Ervin and Courtney, it would be an awesome match.
it's going to be a good match. cant wait to see them underneath the lights. banks,courtney,ervin,wolsifer round robbin. for the lower sullivan, evans, zarth, martin. gives me goosebumps thinkin of these matchups
yeah im not to sure about Martin beating Sullivan but i know he can beat Voth and Evens
Was you even watching the state finals at 112 last year. Evans beat Sullivan hands down for two 1/2 periods. Had he just stalled out and rode Sullivan he would have won by more then five (not sure of the score). Sullivan only beat Voth by a couple earlier that year as well. Martin is an all american at 103 there is a huge difference in these two weight classes. 103 was a joke last year outside of Bradbury and Martin. I am not saying Martin cant hang with these guys but what I am saying is he is not ready for either of these three. Hopefully we will see depending on everybodies weight next year.
it's going to be a good match. cant wait to see them underneath the lights. banks,courtney,ervin,wolsifer round robbin. for the lower sullivan, evans, zarth, martin. gives me goosebumps thinkin of these matchups
I agree these are all great match-ups. If Zarth stays 119 he will not be touched next year by Sullivan Evans or who ever. IMO
Was you even watching the state finals at 112 last year. Evans beat Sullivan hands down for two 1/2 periods. Had he just stalled out and rode Sullivan he would have won by more then five (not sure of the score). Sullivan only beat Voth by a couple earlier that year as well. Martin is an all american at 103 there is a huge difference in these two weight classes. 103 was a joke last year outside of Bradbury and Martin. I am not saying Martin cant hang with these guys but what I am saying is he is not ready for either of these three. Hopefully we will see depending on everybodies weight next year.
yes all of this is true but you cant tell me Martin aint going to have a chance to bet these guys, i hear Voth will be 125 and i think Sullivan will be 112 again and Evans will be 119 and so will Martin but im not sure all thats going to be true, but you cant say Martin aint going to be right there with those guys
yes all of this is true but you cant tell me Martin aint going to have a chance to bet these guys, i hear Voth will be 125 and i think Sullivan will be 112 again and Evans will be 119 and so will Martin but im not sure all thats going to be true, but you cant say Martin aint going to be right there with those guys
Don't get me wrong I agree with you that he can probably hang with any of them, I just don't see him beating them right now. He really needs to put on some muscle in order to be able to wrestle any heavier then 103. I don't think he can handle Zarth, he is just way to strong and don't forget he won the toughest weight class last year prety soundly.
Evans is inconsistent, he hasnt convinced me just yet. Sullivan beats him like 9 times, and one time Sullivan has a bad match, but still pins him. I agree he was getting man handled though, but its all about who comes out on top. Sullivan, Martin, and Evans are all pretty close, it would be awesome matches.
well yeah Martin should bolk up alittle but hes going to be awesomeDon't get me wrong I agree with you that he can probably hang with any of them, I just don't see him beating them right now. He really needs to put on some muscle in order to be able to wrestle any heavier then 103. I don't think he can handle Zarth, he is just way to strong and don't forget he won the toughest weight class last year prety soundly.
Just for the record martin beat evans when he weighed 89 pounds wrestling 103 his sophomore year, almost pinned him. you are all in for a shock with martin. He has been wrestling MUCH better competition this summer than evans or sullivan, guaranteed. By the way zarth will be lucky to come in 4th at 119 next year. Martin and sullivan will tear him up, probably evans too. Zarth didn't look impressive at nationals.
thank you but Zarth will be going 125Just for the record martin beat evans when he weighed 89 pounds wrestling 103 his sophomore year, almost pinned him. you are all in for a shock with martin. He has been wrestling MUCH better competition this summer than evans or sullivan, guaranteed. By the way zarth will be lucky to come in 4th at 119 next year. Martin and sullivan will tear him up, probably evans too. Zarth didn't look impressive at nationals.
Just for the record martin beat evans when he weighed 89 pounds wrestling 103 his sophomore year, almost pinned him. you are all in for a shock with martin. He has been wrestling MUCH better competition this summer than evans or sullivan, guaranteed. By the way zarth will be lucky to come in 4th at 119 next year. Martin and sullivan will tear him up, probably evans too. Zarth didn't look impressive at nationals.
Are you serious? Tear him up? It's one thing to predict the 103 is going to bump up to 119 and beat the state champ, but tear him up, I don't see it. Sounds to me like some sour grapes after that clinic in the state finals.
Very big talk for the middle of July, not sure anyone needs those kind of expectations established for them especially during the middle of summer when hardly anyone is on the mat to prove anything.
Are you serious? Tear him up? It's one thing to predict the 103 is going to bump up to 119 and beat the state champ, but tear him up, I don't see it. Sounds to me like some sour grapes after that clinic in the state finals.
yeah i'm serious. At junior nationals I saw Martin beating state champs, even pinning them. Then I saw zarth get teched twice at sophpmore nationals, because he wrestled scared, he was good enough to compete, he folds when a tough kid pushes him. Chui didn't push zarth, sullivan and martin will, and i expect the same result unless he turns a corner.
I really like Elliot Martin, I have been able to watch him since he was in middle school and I think he has improved as much as any high school wrestler.
I see on the results page for NHSCA Elliot pinned one opponent from VA, who may have very well been the State Champ from VA, and I am impressed with Elliot's performance at NHSCA, he did very well at that level of competition.
Has he been to other Nationals and beat top ranked kids?
yeah Martin is by far the best light weight out there right now
Just for the record martin beat evans when he weighed 89 pounds wrestling 103 his sophomore year, almost pinned him. you are all in for a shock with martin. He has been wrestling MUCH better competition this summer than evans or sullivan, guaranteed. By the way zarth will be lucky to come in 4th at 119 next year. Martin and sullivan will tear him up, probably evans too. Zarth didn't look impressive at nationals.
I dont think he almost pinned Evans from my recollection Evans was beating him pretty bad and got caught high with his legs in. Better competition maybe at a much lighter weight so that is kind of a joke. Zarth would own Martin and that is a fact. Zarth and Evans wrestled last year with Zarth winning by two, but a very good match it was. I am pretty sure Elliot was like 100 pounds not 89 so lets not exaggerate here. I agree with the other posts that this is July and make the predictions all you want but we will see come February. All of these guys are good wrestlers and this is the order I would put them based on last years performances, Zarth- too strong and won the toughest weight at state hands down. Sullivan- has not been beat in 3 years, plan on him going 112 to protect that record. Evans-improving every match but yes inconsistent but too very strong. Martin possibly the most technical but needs to put on some real muscle to compete with any of these three, if he gets stronger he could be in the mix.
I have to agree with Prowler, they are all good but the man to beat in the lightweights has to be Sullivan, his 3 yr record speaks for itself.
I like Zarth because he's young and his Coach is one of the best, so I expect he will get better each year.
Shawn112,
What kind of competition has Martin been wrestling this summer that you keep referring to? Not doubting you, just curious where he has been wrestling?
I have to agree with Prowler, they are all good but the man to beat in the lightweights has to be Sullivan, his 3 yr record speaks for itself.
I like Zarth because he's young and his Coach is one of the best, so I expect he will get better each year.
Shawn112,
What kind of competition has Martin been wrestling this summer that you keep referring to? Not doubting you, just curious where he has been wrestling?
some of the very best in the country, they are not 103's, an he is winning, i'll leave it at that
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1. Deon Chaney(FERN)
2. Derek Nickel(DOSS)
3. Matt Green(LAF)
hey didnt DEREK NICKEL beat Deon Chaney ?? so how you got him 2 JW
but if i am not mistaken, matt green beat nickel twice last year so it is a toss up in this weight class. you cant go wrong with any picks
yeah we'll leave it at thatsome of the very best in the country, they are not 103's, an he is winning, i'll leave it at that