ok

i want everyone to compose your "dream team" for kentucky

pick the best from every weight and compose the best team you think kentucky has to offer

From this year or from this year and all previous years?

past years and this year

do both

Two to nominate from my alma mater:

145- Issac Knable

171- Tendai Charasika

103 - Dan Trejo

112 - Rusty Parks

119 - Kyle Ruschell

125 - Tyler Voth

130 - Joey Sanders

135 - Jacob Murton

140 - Brian Peace

145 - Harrison Courtney

152 - Mitch Ervin

160 - John Wolsifier

171 - Will Starks

189 - Richard Starks

215 - Taylor Sheer

285 - Zach Brewer

103 - Dan Trejo

112 - Travis Sullivan

119 - Kyle Ruschell

125 - Tyler Voth

130 - Joey Sanders

135 - Jacob Murton

140 - Brian Peace

145 - Harrison Courtney

152 - Mitch Ervin

160 - John Wolsifier

171 - Will Starks

189 - Richard Starks

215 - Brent Gibbs

285 - Zach Brewer

For conversation's sake I am using the wrestler's weight class their senior year as their weight since most moved up as they grew older.  I have listed more than one at some weight classes because I am undecided, if I have a favorite I have put it in bold.

1990's

103- Chris Valentine (not many seniors at this weight)

112- Shawn Smith

119- Josh Preece

125- Dean Williams, Tom Cibull (did not get to see Cibull wrestle)

130- Dylan Bell, Brandon Wilkens

135- Chris Dunn

140- Brian Selke

145- Joe Carr

152- Don Blevins

160- Ian Horn

171- Matt Hecker, Michael Benson (with no favorite have to pick the home team)

189- Jason Detre, Bruce Stepp (did not get to see Stepp wrestle)

215- Josh Whitaker (weight class did not exist until 1995)

275- Livingston Merrit, Dion Washington (I know Washington never won it but I heard he was awesome just the same)

2000's (seniors only have been included for this year, except for Harrison Courtney)

103- Dan Trejo (not many seniors at this weight), Elliot Martin?

112- Billy Clark (only senior at this weight), Travis Sullivan?

119- Kyle Ruschell (if Sullivan is here this year it won't matter, Ruschell was better in every aspect)

125- Jason Daviaux, Derek Scott, Coty Lewis?

130- Ozzy Parker (not very many good choices here), Coty Lewis?

135- Brad Cooper, Jacob Murton (toss up, both excellent wrestlers, would love to see this match)

140- Scott Cooper Luke Metzker (even though Cooper won the match in the state finals Metzker was the better wrestler, he lost on a controversial call and destroyed him at state duals earlier that year), Bryan Peace?

145- Jairus Murton, Isaac Knable, Harrison Courtney?

152- Craig Cooper (not very many good choices here), Harrison Courtney, Mitch Ervin?

160- John Wolsiefer

171- Eric Slugantz

189- Richard Starks

215- Taylor Scherer

275- not many good choices here, I don't know who to pick

Names to think about for the future

Matt Zarth, Brad Hitchings, Justin Davis

This year.

103 Jarvis Elam  

112 Ross Carpenter-Fraser  

119 Elliott Martin  

125 Coty Vinsant  

130 Josh Johnson  

135 Tyler Grimm  

140 Justin Davis  

145 Dakoda Choate  

152 Mitch Ervin  

160 Howard Brim  

171 Mason Reid

189 Ryan Houchens  

215 Derek Nickel

285 Anthony Bailey

Any Year

103 Caleb Wood

112 Jordan Lewis

119 Kyle Ruschell

125 Derek Scott

130 Ozzy Parker

135 Jacob Murton

140 Joe Powers

145 Alan Martin

152 John Wolsifier

160 Ian Horn

171 Eric Slugantz

189 Richard Starks

215 Taylor Shearer

HWT Mike Clark

I won't bother with this year, because I think the rankings basically show that.  Just based on guys I actually saw wrestle and picking weights just to make it interesting and fit them in the lineup:

103 Kyle Ruschell (as a junior; I think he was better than Trejo)

112 Pat White (shouldn't be legal to be that big, strong, and quick as a 112 pounder)

119 Pat Martz

125 Joe Carr

130 Brad Cooper

135 Jacob Murton

140 Isaac Knable

145 Chris Hagen

152 Horn - split the difference on his weights (although Trice may get the spot)

160 One of the deepest weight classes in KY history - Wiard (my favorite), Zinga, Ennels, Holbrook, Wolseifer, Auston Cooper - pick one

171 Tendai Charasika

189 Richard Starks

215 Taylor Scherer

275 Bruce Stepp (I didn't see him at heavy, but I made a spot for Starks)

If I tried to do this it would take me all day.

The biggest problem for me (Since I'm so old) is that many of the wt. classes no longer exist.

98

105 (could be 103)

126 (could be 125)

132 (either 130 or 135)

138 (could be 140)

155 (could be 152)

167 (either 160 or 171)

Then we had the year where we had the 100 wt. class and 106.  (I can't remember all the classes that year)

I Think what may be even more interesting would be to make a region all star team. 

8 all stare teams and then we could match them up.  (maybe even have back ups just in case someone gets hurt  :-D) Kind of like an all time regional dual team.

A few guys that I think should be on the list somewhere, but not sure where. 

119 - Rick Barker, 3X Ky state champ....not many know, but this man was raised in the Austrailian outback by a pack of dingos from birth til the age of 10.  In dingo language, dingos sometimes say "Did Rick Barker eat your baby?"  The answer is usually yes.  Some habbits are hard to break, to this day, the man still eats babies.

138-145 - Robby Clarkston.  4X Ky state champ.

145-155 - Troy Cole.  I've said it before, and I'll say it again.  Troy Cole IS the boogey man!  He sleeps under your bed.

HWT - Frank Wolnitzek.  2X undefeated Ky state champ, H.S. all-american.  Enough said. 

103 - Dan Trejo

112 - Travis Sullivan

119 - Kyle Ruschell

125 - Tyler Voth

130 - Joey Sanders

135 - Jacob Murton

140 - Brian Peace

145 - Harrison Courtney

152 - Mitch Ervin

160 - John Wolsifier

171 - Will Starks

189 - Richard Starks

215 - Brent Gibbs

285 - Zach Brewer

215- Brent gibbs over Taylor Shearer are you kidding me?? Taylor was ranked 6th or 7th in the nation.

Ok here is my list of a Region 6 Dream team (1980- Present)

105-103--Tommy Storms (SK) Moved him here to make room at 130

---------- Chuck Reimer (SK)

112------- Jason Davioux (Scott)

-----------Stan Martin (Conner)

119--------Kyle Rushell (Ryle)

-----------Pat Martz (Conner)  (this was a tough one)

126-125------- Criag Burtleson (Conner)

---------- Ben Hines (Campbell)

132-130------- Brad Cooper (Simon Kenton)

----------- Brandon Wilkins (Campbell)  Another tough wt. class in region 6

135------- David Barns (Simon)

----------- Jordan Balckmore (Ryle)  (honerable mention his older brother Brett Blackmore (Boone)

138-140------- Rob Aylor (Ryle)

----------- Steve Kaiser (Simon)  (many good wrestlers left out here)

145-------- Robbie Clarkston (Conner)

-----------  Chris Hagan (Campbell)

152-155----- Troy Cole (Conner)

------------- Strawn Nutter (Boone)  (Both MVW)

160---------- Curt Zinga (Campbell)

------------- Marcus Barrett (Cambell)

167-171------ Matt Shotwell (Conner)

-------------- Phil Hagan (Campbell)

185-189------ Rick Turner (Campbell)

-------------  Jason Booher (Campbell)

215---------- Justin Saner (Campbell)

-------------- Craig Collinsworth (Scott)

Hwt---------- Frank Wolnetzek (Holmes)

------------- Mike Ramsey/Jim Newman (Campbell Co)

I know there are many others not on this list, and if you asked me to do it again I'm sure I would not pick the same ones again.

103    Dan Trejo

112    Grady Peterson  or Anthony Smith toss up to me both were great

119    Kyle Ruschell

125    Luis Carrion North Hardin

130    Joe Carr

135    Jacob Murton

140    Luke Metzger

145    Harrison Courtney

152    Wesley Gray

160    Ian Horn

171    Tendai Cherasiki hope I spelled that right

189    Miguel Merritt

215    Livingston Merritt

HWT  Bruce Stepp                                     

Some of these are a little lighter than they wrestled there senior year but I thought these guy's were the best I have seen

215- Brent gibbs over Taylor Shearer are you kidding me?? Taylor was ranked 6th or 7th in the nation.

oh i didnt kno he was ranked that high

a few that i would definetly put form the past years are 103 travis sullivan 112 kyle ruschell 119 Kris perry 125 derek scott 130 jacb murton 135 knable 140 jarius murton 145 joe carr 152 john wolsifer 160 muncey 171 richard starks 189 muncey 215 schrer HWT livingston merrit

i like your idea about the region dream teams

maybe we could at least have a region champion duals or something in the future

103 -

112 - Rick Barker

119 - Kyle Ruschell

125 - Derrek Scott

130 - Brad Cooper

135 - Jacob Murton

140 - Robbie Clarkston

145 - Harrison Courtney

152 - Joe Carr Jr

160 - John Wolseifer

171 - Matt Shotwell

189 - Richard Starks

215 - Taylor Scherer

HWT - Frank Wolnetzek

more realistically, if lexington (fayette co.) had their own team like many other counties, theyd b unstoppable

it would be race between Fayette county and Jefferson county(Louisville)

125- Dean Williams Jr

160- Ian Horn was beat than Wolsefier

it would be race between Fayette county and Jefferson county(Louisville)

tru that. louisville does have a lot of solid wrestling teams.

a lot of em private schools.

so ya it would b a crazy rivalry between lexington and louisville

it would be race between Fayette county and Jefferson county(Louisville)

I think a lot of counties could make that arguement.

In Nky Campbell would be (Campbell, Newport, old Newport Catholic)

Boone Co.  Would be (Ryle, Boone, Conner)

Kenton Co. would be (Simon kenton, Scott, Dixie, Holmes)

An all oldham county team would be pretty tough.  Especially when Scott, Muerner, Scherer, Warner, Young, both Zeppas, Morlatt, Houchens, Kusnir, were all wrestling at the same time.

I got bored so I looked at 2006 and came up with a line up

103 Andre Zeppa      NO

112 Antonio Zeppa    NO

119 Daniel Muerner    SO

125 Derek Scott        SO

130 Ben Warner   OC (bumped from 125, back up Kusnir or Morlatt)

135 Cody Hall     SO (or Tom kusnir)

140 Chris Dudley        NO

145 Bryan Ford          SO

152 Ben Greco          SO

160 Andrew Taylor    SO

171 Ryan Houchens    SO

189 Alex Wenninger    OC

215 Taylor Scherer    SO

285 Josh Young     OC (or Daniel Martinko)

8    South Oldham

3-4 North Oldham

3-4 Oldham County

Not a bad lineup.

103  Andre Zeppa      NO

112  Antonio Zeppa    NO

119  Daniel Muerner    SO

125  Derek Scott        SO

130  Ben Warner      OC  (bumped from 125, back up Kusnir or Morlatt)

135  Cody Hall        SO  (or Tom kusnir)

140  Chris Dudley        NO

145  Bryan Ford          SO

152  Ben Greco          SO

160  Andrew Taylor    SO

171  Ryan Houchens    SO

189  Alex Wenninger    OC

215  Taylor Scherer    SO

285  Josh Young      OC  (or Daniel Martinko)

8    South Oldham

3-4 North Oldham

3-4 Oldham County

Wow Coach thats an amazing line-up with some awesome wrestlers.  I hate being in the same region with Oldham County which will only keep improving with the outstanding middle school development that continues to occur.

I got bored so I looked at 2006 and came up with a line up

103 Andre Zeppa      NO

112 Antonio Zeppa    NO

119 Daniel Muerner    SO

125 Derek Scott        SO

130 Ben Warner   OC (bumped from 125, back up Kusnir or Morlatt)

135 Cody Hall     SO (or Tom kusnir)

140 Chris Dudley        NO

145 Bryan Ford          SO

152 Ben Greco          SO

160 Andrew Taylor    SO

171 Ryan Houchens    SO

189 Alex Wenninger    OC

215 Taylor Scherer    SO

285 Josh Young     OC (or Daniel Martinko)

8    South Oldham

3-4 North Oldham

3-4 Oldham County

Not a bad lineup.

Where's Wolsiefer, Rupp, Luna, Marks, Weldon, and Barger?

Where's Wolsiefer, Rupp, Luna, Marks, Weldon, and Barger?

This is an all-Oldham team.

Nky only has one county with more than 2 teams that is Kenton

last years 2007 all star team.

103------- Robbie Vaughn (Simon)

112------- Steve Supe (Scott)

119------- Steve Norberry (Simon)  Alt (Gabe Supe Scott)

125------- Justin Miley (Scott)

130------- Dusty Brown (Simon)

135------- K. Turner (Simon)

140------- Ben Winkler (Simon)

145------- Daniel Thuenerman (Scott)

152------- Josh Cooper (Simon)  Alt (John Golsby)

160------- Brad Denham (Dixie) However (Cooper or Golsby would move up for the team)

171------- Matt Neal (Simon)

189------- Benson (Dixie)

215------- Wilson (Simon)

Hwt------- Turner (Simon)

not a bad team  9 Simon Kenton

---------------  3 Scott

---------------  1 Dixie

---------------  1 Holmes

This would be the best County team in Nky last year.

Hardin Co. 3 schools John Hardin, Central Hardin, North Hardin

2006-2007 all star team from just these 3 schools

103 Coty Wood NH   

112  Terrance Demery NH

119  Josh Johnson JH

125  Ross Engle  CH

130  Matt Eck

135  Cassidy Veach JH if healthy if not Johnivon Oggs NH

140  if cassidy is healthy move up Oggs if not Jerry Ledford

145  Trent Webb if Cassidy is healthy then move up Ledford

152  Andrew Longo CH

160 Ty Wolfe NH

171  Pitcher  JH  alt Marcell Haynes NH

189  Mark Jones NH

215  Matt Baker NH or move up Terry Turner

HWT  Matt Ballinger

Maybe not the strongest all star team in the state but would be very competetive

2007 Jefferson Co. All-Star Team

In Order 1st and 2nd team

103: Elliot Martin (SEN), Myron Bradbury (TRI)

112: Dan Smith (TRI), Jeff Warra (SEN)

119: John Chiu (SEN), Roderick Shoulders (EAS)

125: Dan Fuller (SEN), Paul Marks (EAS)

130: Mike Seeders (FAIR), Blake Kraft (EAS)

135: Zach Poulton (SEN), Justin Davis (EAS)

140: Malcolm Jackson (FC), John Thomas (CEN)

145: Ben Barger (FC), Cory Kress (STX)

152: Brad Hitchings (TRI), Chip Condon (STX)

160: John Wolsiefer (FC), Dakoda Choate (PRP)

171: Ben Rupp (EAS), John Florence (TRI)

189: Josh Lewis (TRI), Joe Raleigh (VALL)

215: Derek Nickel (DOSS), Deon Chaney (FC)

285: Robby Brown (FAIR), John Wise (DES)

1st Team

4 Seneca

3 Fern Creek

3 Trinity

2 Fairdale

1 Eastern

1 Doss

2nd Team

4 Eastern

2 Trinity

2 St.Xavier

1 Seneca

1 Central

1 Pleasure Ridge Park

1 Valley

1 Fern Creek

1 Desales

Two Pretty Solid Lineups IMO

103 - David Richey

112 - Travis Sullivan

119 - Jason Talbott

125 - Jeremy Rhodes

130 - Tom Lee

135 - Chris Dunn

140 - Issac Knable

145 - Joe Carr

152 - Willie Ennels

160 - Ian Horn

171 - Richard Starks

189 - Miguel Merritt

215 - Livingston Merritt

275 - Bruce Stepp

103 - David Richey

112 - Travis Sullivan

119 - Jason Talbott

125 - Jeremy Rhodes

130 - Tom Lee

135 - Chris Dunn

140 - Issac Knable

145 - Joe Carr

152 - Willie Ennels

160 - Ian Horn

171 - Richard Starks

189 - Miguel Merritt

215 - Livingston Merritt

275 - Bruce Stepp

I would definitely have to throw Harrison Courtney in there at 152 over Willie Ennels. Also, I think that Livingston Merritt should be at 275 right here, to make room for Taylor Scherer.

This year.

103 Jarvis Elam  

112 Ross Carpenter-Fraser  

119 Elliott Martin  

125 Coty Vinsant  

130 Josh Johnson  

135 Tyler Grimm  

140 Justin Davis  

145 Dakoda Choate  

152 Mitch Ervin  

160 Howard Brim  

171 Mason Reid

189 Ryan Houchens  

215 Derek Nickel

285 Anthony Bailey

Any Year

103 Caleb Wood

112 Jordan Lewis

119 Kyle Ruschell

125 Derek Scott

130 Ozzy Parker

135 Jacob Murton

140 Joe Powers

145 Alan Martin

152 John Wolsifier

160 Ian Horn

171 Eric Slugantz

189 Richard Starks

215 Taylor Shearer

HWT Mike Clark

no harrison courtney in any?

I would definitely have to throw Harrison Courtney in there at 152 over Willie Ennels. Also, I think that Livingston Merritt should be at 275 right here, to make room for Taylor Scherer.

I do see your point, but Livingston acctually took 1 loss his senior year at 275.  Where at 215 he was so dominant his 10th and 11th grade years.  but I do see that you would have to make room in other weights.

more realistically, if lexington (fayette co.) had their own team like many other counties, theyd b unstoppable

i always wondered what a team like that would b from wrestling to football to bball but since this is a wrestling website who do u think the starting line up would be 4 a if fayette co. had thier own team?

I think jpizar83 hit on nose for sure. There handfull of wrestlers better than murton to fill that spot and most recently Cooper, did you all for about Metzger and in my opinion got robbed his senior year. Cooper, Metzger, Dunn, Dean all in front of Murton hands down, never wrestled anybody worth ever mentioning again or anybody that had any credentials to speak of and his college career, well don't know much on that one but if he was doing something at all we would of heard about him like Cooper, Ruschell or Starks and I know Copper is NAIA but he did very well. Oh yeah Will won it twice, but when he wrestled his weight class wasn't that strong I am feel pretty strong sayn that Eric Slugantz, who is also a Woodford boy and a two timmer who I know would eat Will for dinner. Eric was pretty cold. Hvywt, I think is wrong, the best match I ever saw for that weight class was a kid from North Hardin and Cambellsville, both huge, not fat, but huge fast strong wrestlers and it was a battle till the end. 

takedownartist;

That was Dill from North Hardin and Ramsey from Campbell Co.

Was a match for the ages.  Like to titans going at it.

I don't think anyone has even mentioned Mike Migliatchio(sp.) at 152 from TC, I remember him taking it to Willie in the finals. That guy was a beast and also had a solid D1 college carrier.

103 should be John Fahy

I think jpizar83 hit on nose for sure. There handfull of wrestlers better than murton to fill that spot and most recently Cooper, did you all for about Metzger and in my opinion got robbed his senior year. Cooper, Metzger, Dunn, Dean all in front of Murton hands down, never wrestled anybody worth ever mentioning again or anybody that had any credentials to speak of and his college career, well don't know much on that one but if he was doing something at all we would of heard about him like Cooper, Ruschell or Starks and I know Copper is NAIA but he did very well. Oh yeah Will won it twice, but when he wrestled his weight class wasn't that strong I am feel pretty strong sayn that Eric Slugantz, who is also a Woodford boy and a two timmer who I know would eat Will for dinner. Eric was pretty cold. Hvywt, I think is wrong, the best match I ever saw for that weight class was a kid from North Hardin and Cambellsville, both huge, not fat, but huge fast strong wrestlers and it was a battle till the end. 

I'm sorry, but I don't think any of those guys are better than Murton.  Cooper is the only one who could be mentioned in the same sentence as him, and I would still take Murton any day of the week.  Murton got 3rd in the NAIA nationals his freshman year.  In high school he wrestled a couple of big names, including Jordan Burroughs, whom Murton defeated rather handily.  Burroughs might be worth mentioning considering that he only went on to win senior nationals that year, and is currently the #1 ranked 157 pounder in Division 1.

When did Murton wrestle Burroughs?

When did Murton wrestle Burroughs?

2005 Beast of the East.  They met in the quarter finals with Murton winning 13-8.

http://www.beastwrestling.com/

There will be much debate on this topic and many wrestlers can be left out due to people not being lucky enough to watch them at their peak or just plain bias towards WKY or NKY.  Overall KY has put out some monster wrestlers and not all chose to take it to the next level or chose to play soccer or football at the next level ( Ian Horn, Miguel Merritt)  or got injured along the way.

I would definitely have to throw Harrison Courtney in there at 152 over Willie Ennels. Also, I think that Livingston Merritt should be at 275 right here, to make room for Taylor Scherer.

I would agree with Livingston, however I would still take Willie over Harrison.

I agree and please dont say that im being bias... Its just one ...well 2 mans opinion  :wink:

It gets tough when you have to pick between Bruce Stepp and Livingston Merritt...

Yeah but I say Put one at 215 and the other at Heavy.

and I wont be a homer and say Livingston is the better.. Hell, Bruce Stepp beat 2 really good wrestlers in the Grubbs brothers

Didnt know that about Murton in NAIA, Cooper still would of won just like Metzger and Dunn and Dean. Any of those guys, take your pick Name one person he beat in high school worth talking about, that had any record or big names that had done something. Hell id take Ruschell over Murton also.

Didnt know that about Murton in NAIA, Cooper still would of won just like Metzger and Dunn and Dean. Any of those guys, take your pick Name one person he beat in high school worth talking about, that had any record or big names that had done something. Hell id take Ruschell over Murton also.

His sophmore year he had some alright competetition.  Jordan Lewis(State Champ) , Ben Hines and Carlos Rodriguez to name a few.  After that it seemed like everyone tryed to avoid him like the plague.  Hes the best I have seen come through Kentucky in the last 8 years in my opinion.  I think he would have been an AA if he had chose to go D1.

Didnt know that about Murton in NAIA, Cooper still would of won just like Metzger and Dunn and Dean. Any of those guys, take your pick Name one person he beat in high school worth talking about, that had any record or big names that had done something. Hell id take Ruschell over Murton also.

Name one guy on the national level that Metzger beat or Cooper?  Murton beat the Senior National Champion that year!  You can't get any better than that!

Name one guy on the national level that Metzger beat or Cooper?  Murton beat the Senior National Champion that year!  You can't get any better than that!

Not to be nit-picky, but wouldn't fargo Junior nationals be better than that?  I agree with your point though.  Murton was better in h.s. than those guys.  Maybe someone could argue Brad Cooper...but not the other guys.  I'd say placing in the Beast of the East as he did, beating this Burroughs guy would put him higher on the list.

Not to be nit-picky, but wouldn't fargo Junior nationals be better than that?  I agree with your point though.  Murton was better in h.s. than those guys.  Maybe someone could argue Brad Cooper...but not the other guys.  I'd say placing in the Beast of the East as he did, beating this Burroughs guy would put him higher on the list.

Well of course Fargo would be as tough or tougher.  But then again, Fargo is freestyle/greco, and senior nationals is folkstyle.  I have seen some wrestlers win fargo and not win senior nationals, and vice versa.

Cooper, in my opinion, is the only one out of those listed by takedownartist who could be mentioned in the same breath as Murton.  Murton didn't lose a single match to Kentucky opponents, and I am pretty sure Cooper didn't lose to in-state competition either during his sophomore, junior, and senior campaigns.  We all know that Metzger lost to in state opponents a few times.  As for Dean (Williams I assume), give me a break, he was only a one time champ.  Dunn has an argument I guess, but he was right before my time, and I just know he was a 3 timer. Maybe someone could help me out with his other accolades?

Dean Williams?  Give me a break... I wrestled him personaly and he isnt anywhere in the area of this list,,,

Murton also beat Jordan Burroughs ( starter at 157? for nebraska right now) at the Beast of The East

Well of course Fargo would be as tough or tougher.  But then again, Fargo is freestyle/greco, and senior nationals is folkstyle.  I have seen some wrestlers win fargo and not win senior nationals, and vice versa.

Cooper, in my opinion, is the only one out of those listed by takedownartist who could be mentioned in the same breath as Murton.  Murton didn't lose a single match to Kentucky opponents, and I am pretty sure Cooper didn't lose to in-state competition either during his sophomore, junior, and senior campaigns.   We all know that Metzger lost to in state opponents a few times.  As for Dean (Williams I assume), give me a break, he was only a one time champ.   Dunn has an argument I guess, but he was right before my time, and I just know he was a 3 timer. Maybe someone could help me out with his other accolades?

Dunn won state three times and placed third as a freshman.  His freshman year (96) was the first year they disallowed 8th graders to compete in high school until they recently changed it back.  I'm not sure of the Woodford line-up his 8th grade year but he very well could have started and maybe placed at state.

I also don't know the exact details of Metzker's career but I only know of four losses throughout his career, he probably had one or two more.  However his senior year he was beating Cooper in the finals in a close match (after destroying him 10-1 at state duals earlier in the year) and the ref called a reversal when I don't know if there was even a loss of control.  To be fair the loss of control should have been called to send the match into overtime to let the wrestlers decide the winner but the 2 was called which ended the match.  2x champ (9 and 11) 2nd (12) and a 3rd (10); quite the career if you ask me.

Dunn's 8th grade year was the year we had the different weight classes - 100, 106, 112, 119, 126 ect.....    I think he would've started and place that year as well.

Bye the way, he also beat Shawn Smith & Grady Petterson his freshman year.  Both 2x ers and both seniors that year.

Dunn won state three times and placed third as a freshman.  His freshman year (96) was the first year they disallowed 8th graders to compete in high school until they recently changed it back.  I'm not sure of the Woodford line-up his 8th grade year but he very well could have started and maybe placed at state.

I also don't know the exact details of Metzker's career but I only know of four losses throughout his career, he probably had one or two more.  However his senior year he was beating Cooper in the finals in a close match (after destroying him 10-1 at state duals earlier in the year) and the ref called a reversal when I don't know if there was even a loss of control.  To be fair the loss of control should have been called to send the match into overtime to let the wrestlers decide the winner but the 2 was called which ended the match.  2x champ (9 and 11) 2nd (12) and a 3rd (10); quite the career if you ask me.

Oh, it was an incredible career, no doubt about it. 

jpizar83 - not trying to knock metzker at all, but didn't Brad Cooper beat him and the other cooper pretty handily at state duals that year?  Or at some point in that season?  I mention it because even though metzker was awesome, Brad was better that year. 

I'm sorry, but I don't think any of those guys are better than Murton.  Cooper is the only one who could be mentioned in the same sentence as him, and I would still take Murton any day of the week.  Murton got 3rd in the NAIA nationals his freshman year.   In high school he wrestled a couple of big names, including Jordan Burroughs, whom Murton defeated rather handily.  Burroughs might be worth mentioning considering that he only went on to win senior nationals that year, and is currently the #1 ranked 157 pounder in Division 1.

yeah he got third at naia nationals, but if im not mistake and please let me know if i am, but wasn't that behind cooper and didnt cooper tech or major dec. murton in C.U. vs. U.C. dual?

yeah he got third at naia nationals, but if im not mistake and please let me know if i am, but wasn't that behind cooper and didnt cooper tech or major dec. murton in C.U. vs. U.C. dual?

I think that was Jairus Murton, not Jacob, that Cooper beat.

I think it is Jacob got 3rd at Nats, and Jarius got schooled by Cooper.  I always felt Jacob was a lot better then Jarius.  Both were great wrestlers though.

sorry wrong murton...

I think it is Jacob got 3rd at Nats, and Jarius got schooled by Cooper.  I always felt Jacob was a lot better then Jarius.  Both were great wrestlers though.

i have to agree....both were great but i think jacob was alittle better all around. cant see what he does in naia in a year or two..

Does anyone know why Jacob didn't wrestle D-1? I remember him my eigth grade year he was a stud in a half I'm sure he could have been quite successful on that level.

From what I have been hearing his wrestling days may be over completely.  I know he didnt wrestle the 1st half of this year with a injury I believe.  I havn't been seeing him in any of there results.  Someone posted the Murtons are helping out with Lawrence County now.  Anyone know for sure?

yeah i know for sure they are helping out with the team, but i dont know for what reasons. and i know nothing about his injuries.

jpizar83 - not trying to knock metzker at all, but didn't Brad Cooper beat him and the other cooper pretty handily at state duals that year?  Or at some point in that season?  I mention it because even though metzker was awesome, Brad was better that year. 

I don't know if Brad Cooper and Metzker ever wrestled, it would have been on hell of a match, the two best wrestlers one weight class apart.  I agree with you I think Brad was a little better though.  I know for sure that Metzker beat Scott Cooper from LaRue at state duals pretty bad their senior years and then Scott won in the state finals.

So what did Murton place at the beast and senior nationals. It might have already been posted, but I couldn't find it thanks.

I don't know if Brad Cooper and Metzker ever wrestled, it would have been on hell of a match, the two best wrestlers one weight class apart.  I agree with you I think Brad was a little better though.  I know for sure that Metzker beat Scott Cooper from LaRue at state duals pretty bad their senior years and then Scott won in the state finals.

Check your records again. They didn't wrestle at duals that year. The match where Metzker beat Scott was in early december that year. Scott's loss at state duals was against Simon Kenton's Brad Cooper.

Well he still beat him pretty good, something like 10-1.  If they had wrestled ten times I would bet Metzker would win eight, definitely the better wrestler.

Well he still beat him pretty good, something like 10-1.  If they had wrestled ten times I would bet Metzker would win eight, definitely the better wrestler.

Yeah, but who walked away from the podium with the gold.  In the end, that is what counts.

I'm not denying that, Cooper won when it counted.  Metzker was just the better wrestler.

Well he still beat him pretty good, something like 10-1.  If they had wrestled ten times I would bet Metzker would win eight, definitely the better wrestler.

I'm not denying that, Cooper won when it counted.  Metzker was just the better wrestler.

Every year there is a wrestler who wins state that isn't the "best".  He is just the best that day.

We can argue all day about who the better wrestler was.  For that matter, I can claim I was the best wrestler in the state at my weight class at least my last two seasons, if not 3.  But that opinion doesn't do much for me.  What counts and gets recorded in the books is the guy who gets his hand raised in Frankfort.

We can argue all day about who the better wrestler was.  For that matter, I can claim I was the best wrestler in the state at my weight class at least my last two seasons, if not 3.  But that opinion doesn't do much for me.  What counts and gets recorded in the books is the guy who gets his hand raised in Frankfort.

Does anyone know why Jacob didn't wrestle D-1? I remember him my eigth grade year he was a stud in a half I'm sure he could have been quite successful on that level.

He wasn't good enough!

Hear is a trivia question for you.  Who beat Brad Cooper and Luke Metzger in 2002?

Hear is a trivia question for you.  Who beat Brad Cooper and Luke Metzger in 2002?

I am going to guess here.... Josh Boggs?

He wasn't good enough!

I would have to disagree.

Jason Sedoris Valley

Tony Mills PRP

ME from the depths of the unknown the only wrestler to ever represent his school as the only wrestler on the team period.  Thats gotta be good for something.  Wrestling and trainning by your self for two months and getting top 5 in state...that dosent happen too often.  When I say the only wrestler for the school I literally mean I had not one teamate.  Thats fun trainning.LOL :-P

Jason Sedoris Valley

Tony Mills PRP

ME from the depths of the unknown the only wrestler to ever represent his school as the only wrestler on the team period.  Thats gotta be good for something.  Wrestling and trainning by your self for two months and getting top 5 in state...that dosent happen too often.  When I say the only wrestler for the school I literally mean I had not one teamate.  Thats fun trainning.LOL :-P

Not sure if you are him, doubt you are..but in 1987 a wrestler named Paul Brewer was the only wrestler for his team - Oneida Baptist that year.  He was pretty good...not sure where he placed.  But he didn't have a team mate.  That had to suck.  That is impressive though.

A HWT everyone is forgetting about is Ryan Putoff (sp?) from Conner. That kid was a terror in the mid 90's at HWT. Fast for his size, stronger then anyone in his weight class maybe pound for pound in the state, and was pretty technical for a HWT. His Jr. year he came down w/ mono and could not wrestle in the state tournament, and his sr. year well he walked through the tournament. Just throwing it out there im sure some one can vouch for me.

We can argue all day about who the better wrestler was.  For that matter, I can claim I was the best wrestler in the state at my weight class at least my last two seasons, if not 3.  But that opinion doesn't do much for me.  What counts and gets recorded in the books is the guy who gets his hand raised in Frankfort.

When did the state tournament move from Atherton to Frankfort?

Yeah, I was for sure Gene Polka of Ft Knox was gonna win it that year.  

1995? :?

The only person who beat Metzger in 02, at least in state, was Boggs (state duals in OT, btw Metzger won in OT in the state semis) so it would have to be him.  But when did Boggs and Cooper wrestle?  dual, NKy tourney, off-season tourney?

Dave Barnes has to be mention on this team somewhere.

He was 1988 State Champ and MOW. He also was an NCAA D1 All-American, placing 8th at the 1992 NCAAs.