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Early state title picks. Everyone include your picks.
106: Lincoln Maynard
113: Peyton Vowels
120: Jake Ramsey
126: Michael Smith
132: Raney
138: Raney
144: Landon Evans
150: Xavier Gonzalez
157: Jake Dowdy
165: Miller Brown
175: Lucas Ricketts
190: Jackson Burger
215: Luke Hyden
HWT: Austin Cummings
106: Lincoln Maynard
113: Jackson Wells
120: Clayton Badida
126: Corban Nance
132: Raney
138: Raney
144: TJ Meyer
150: Issac Johns
157: Rider Trumble
165: Jeremy Ray
175: Lucas Ricketts
190: Travis Stieber
215: Jack James
HWT: Tucker Roth
106: lincoln maynard
113: jackson wells
120: christian delos santos
126: michael smith
132 and 138: raneys
144: george dennis
150: isaac johns
157: micah thompson
165: miller brown
175: luke ricketts
190: dj wilson
215: marcus james
hwt: tucker roth
1 hour ago, 18904 said:Early state title picks. Everyone include your picks.
106: Lincoln Maynard
113: Peyton Vowels
120: Jake Ramsey
126: Michael Smith
132: Raney
138: Raney
144: Landon Evans
150: Xavier Gonzalez
157: Jake Dowdy
165: Miller Brown
175: Lucas Ricketts
190: Jackson Burger
215: Luke Hyden
HWT: Austin Cummings
Why vowels at 113 I feel like Jackson wells is running the weight right now
2 hours ago, 18904 said:Early state title picks. Everyone include your picks.
106: Lincoln Maynard
113: Peyton Vowels
120: Jake Ramsey
126: Michael Smith
132: Raney
138: Raney
144: Landon Evans
150: Xavier Gonzalez
157: Jake Dowdy
165: Miller Brown
175: Lucas Ricketts
190: Jackson Burger
215: Luke Hyden
HWT: Austin Cummings
Some half court shots in there
106: lincoln maynard
113: jackson wells
120: Jake ramsey
126: Michael Smith
132 raney
138: raney
144: george dennis
150: Hunter Jenkins
157: jake dowdy
165: dalton matney
175: luke ricketts
190: dj wilson
215: marcus james
hwt: Austin Cummings
9 hours ago, Idk. said:Why vowels at 113 I feel like Jackson wells is running the weight right now
Ren Birk was running the weight at 113 last year and we saw what happened there. Total Homer pick, but we'll see in a few weeks.
31 minutes ago, 18904 said:Ren Birk was running the weight at 113 last year and we saw what happened there. Total Homer pick, but we'll see in a few weeks.
True true vowels is good and anything can happen but I don’t see a world where anyone but Wells takes that
106: Lincoln Maynard
113: Jackson Wells
120: Ethan Davis
126: Christian Delo Santos
132: Raney
138: Raney
144: TJ Meyer
150: Brandon Gist
157: Rider Trumble
165: Ben Woosley
175: Ricketts
190: Travis Stieber
215: Marcus James
285: Latravion Johnson
106 Braxton
113 Peyton Vowels
120 Jackson Wells (Heard he was gonna be chasing some 120 pounders at regions)
126 Luke Cornwell
132 Raney
138 Raney
144 Landon Evans (138 with Raney doesn't make sense if he can win 144)
150 Ryan Smith
157 Rider Trumble
165 Miller Brown
175 Luke Ricketts
190 Dj Wilson
215 Marcus James
HWT Tucker Roth
3 minutes ago, Elite Training Center KY said:106 Braxton
113 Peyton Vowels
120 Jackson Wells (Heard he was gonna be chasing some 120 pounders at regions)
126 Luke Cornwell
132 Raney
138 Raney
144 Landon Evans (138 with Raney doesn't make sense if he can win 144)
150 Ryan Smith
157 Rider Trumble
165 Miller Brown
175 Luke Ricketts
190 Dj Wilson
215 Marcus James
HWT Tucker Roth
Vowels definitely wins that if Wells it out of the picture
why smith over issac i don’t really see anyone beating Johns outside hunter tbh
3 minutes ago, Idk. said:Vowels definitely wins that if Wells it out of the picture
why smith over issac i don’t really see anyone beating Johns outside hunter tbh
I just like Ryan Smith. Kid works harder than anyone and has fun doing it. My "dark horse" for 120 would be Delos santos if Wells stays at 113. He has been bumping up to 126 most of year to wrestle the best guys he can. Not many people willing to go out and find people like that win or lose.
106- braxton corbett
113- jackson wells
120- luke cornwell
126- braydan blevins
132- jayden raney
138- jordyn raney
144- george dennis
150- isaac johns
157- rider trumble
165- miller brown
175- lucas ricketts
190- dj wilson
215- marcus james
285- tucker roth
14 minutes ago, Elite Training Center KY said:I just like Ryan Smith. Kid works harder than anyone and has fun doing it. My "dark horse" for 120 would be Delos santos if Wells stays at 113. He has been bumping up to 126 most of year to wrestle the best guys he can. Not many people willing to go out and find people like that win or lose.
Idk i dont really see anyone beating johns this year. Christian got it he has a massive shot at 20 for sure
106: Warner
113: Wells
120: Davis
126: Blevins
132 McCloskey
138: Raney
144: Evans (I'd assume he's bumping up to try to get another one after Jordyn came back)
150: Johns
157: Trumble
165: Brown
175: Ricketts
190: Davis
215: J. James
hwt: McClure
Will say I don't know upper weights that well so 190, 215, and heavy are strictly guesses on the little I saw at state duals. As for the others I'm obviously gonna homer for my guys!
So consensus
Miller Brown at 165
Lucas Ricketts at 175
Jackson Wells at 113
Raneys at 132 and 138
How about sleepers at each weight?
19 minutes ago, Alien01 said:So consensus
Miller Brown at 165
Lucas Ricketts at 175
Jackson Wells at 113
Raneys at 132 and 138
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How about sleepers at each weight?
Nope Vowels at 113 and Wells at 120. I'm gonna manifest it. I gave up on Vowels going 106 lol
106 no dark horse
113 no dark horse
120 Christian Delos Santos if you can call a returning champ a dark horse. (Based on current rankings he is)
126 I think its a 2 Horse race in Luke and Blevins but I wouldn't be shocked if Kimery did damage. Random draw makes it exciting.
132 no dark horse
138 no dark horse
144 no dark horse
150 Ryan Smith I guess but he's ranked second and multiple time placer so I'm not sure that is a dark horse.
157 no dark horse
165 Jeremy Ray (never counting out a Union kid)
175 no dark horse
190-HWT literally no clue.
12 hours ago, Elite Training Center KY said:106 Braxton
113 Peyton Vowels
120 Jackson Wells (Heard he was gonna be chasing some 120 pounders at regions)
126 Luke Cornwell
132 Raney
138 Raney
144 Landon Evans (138 with Raney doesn't make sense if he can win 144)
150 Ryan Smith
157 Rider Trumble
165 Miller Brown
175 Luke Ricketts
190 Dj Wilson
215 Marcus James
HWT Tucker Roth
Rumor is Rider might be making the jump to 165. I'll take him at 165 and Micah at 157!
6- Corbett
13-Mayberry
20-Ramsey
26- Clifford
32- Raney
38-Raney
44- Dennis
50- Jenkins
57- Dowdy
65- Ray
75- Ricketts
90- Vinson
215- James
hwt- Cummings
46 minutes ago, DrBaker said:6- Corbett
13-Mayberry
20-Ramsey
26- Clifford
32- Raney
38-Raney
44- Dennis
50- Jenkins
57- Dowdy
65- Ray
75- Ricketts
90- Vinson
215- James
hwt- Cummings
That’s a lot of Union you got there.
2 minutes ago, gator1 said:That’s a lot of Union you got there.
Just 12. I'm not gonna pick against any of them.
13 hours ago, Elite Training Center KY said:Rumor is Rider might be making the jump to 165. I'll take him at 165 and Micah at 157!
You are right !! Rider will be making the jump to 165. Next year when he goes to College !! LOL For this year he’s staying at 157, he’s never been a kid to go up or down to get away or chase kids. He finishes the year where he starts no matter who comes or goes, and that might have hurt him alittle in the past, but its his choice. Good Luck to everyone the rest of the season.
1 hour ago, Take-em-down said:You are right !! Rider will be making the jump to 165. Next year when he goes to College !! LOL For this year he’s staying at 157, he’s never been a kid to go up or down to get away or chase kids. He finishes the year where he starts no matter who comes or goes, and that might have hurt him alittle in the past, but its his choice. Good Luck to everyone the rest of the season.
Trying to get some troll action going lol Don't shoot It down before It gets going
Ren Birk will have a real chance to win it at 144. Be between him and George. TJ and Roberts is a toss up for 3/4. Seen Ren beat a d1 commit and nationally ranked kid this weekend to win a big tournament.
Evans was still at 138. Doubt he goes any where. Should make the finals at 138 (depending on the draw). Then anything can happen.
1 hour ago, PPmothman said:Ren Birk will have a real chance to win it at 144. Be between him and George. TJ and Roberts is a toss up for 3/4. Seen Ren beat a d1 commit and nationally ranked kid this weekend to win a big tournament.
Evans was still at 138. Doubt he goes any where. Should make the finals at 138 (depending on the draw). Then anything can happen.
Who did he beat?
16 hours ago, PPmothman said:Ren Birk will have a real chance to win it at 144. Be between him and George. TJ and Roberts is a toss up for 3/4. Seen Ren beat a d1 commit and nationally ranked kid this weekend to win a big tournament.
Evans was still at 138. Doubt he goes any where. Should make the finals at 138 (depending on the draw). Then anything can happen.
I haven't had the chance to watch Ren this year but he's always impressed me. I wouldn't be shocked to see him win one this year up at a more comfortable weight class and I think he will get better as he adjusts to the "bigger" guys.
I think the top 5-10 in any weight class after Regionals is done can win the whole thing so every weight class has multiple potential dark horses even though there are favorites for sure.
16 minutes ago, Alien01 said:I think the top 5-10 in any weight class after Regionals is done can win the whole thing so every weight class has multiple potential dark horses even though there are favorites for sure.
I couldn't disagree more. 150 to 175 are all pretty much 2 maybe 3 guys fighting for the championship. I don't even think 144 has 10 guys that could win it, and it's arguably the deepest
What weight class do you see the number 4 kid having a chance to win a title outside of maybe 144 and HWT, much less 5-10?
106 Braxton probably pins his way through
113 Wells Pins or techs his way through
120 Has some potential but Davis Tech/Pinning Roman who is #2 makes it hard to bet against him.
126 Another weight with some potential but Cornwell and Blevins have already dominated everyone else at the weight.
132 Raney pins through
138 Raney pins through
144 First weight I wouldn't be shocked at 3 different champs.
150 Johns/Jenkins have a lock. (Smith is my dark horse)
157 Rider has already pinned Micah twice and Micah is probably a major or more better than the rest of the field. Not saying Micah cant make it happen at state, but 2 horse race.
165 Miller by major in finals in my opinion.
175 Ricketts pins through if he wants
190 Couple different possible champs
215 Marcus James dominates everyone
HWT Couple different possible champs
Not a ton of depth for title contention right now. I think the depth for placement is pretty good, but the top guys have seemed to widen the gap.
1 minute ago, Jimbobert said:I couldn't disagree more. 150 to 175 are all pretty much 2 maybe 3 guys fighting for the championship. I don't even think 144 has 10 guys that could win it, and it's arguably the deepest
jinx you owe me a soda
33 minutes ago, Elite Training Center KY said:What weight class do you see the number 4 kid having a chance to win a title outside of maybe 144 and HWT, much less 5-10?
106 Braxton probably pins his way through
113 Wells Pins or techs his way through
120 Has some potential but Davis Tech/Pinning Roman who is #2 makes it hard to bet against him.
126 Another weight with some potential but Cornwell and Blevins have already dominated everyone else at the weight.
132 Raney pins through
138 Raney pins through
144 First weight I wouldn't be shocked at 3 different champs.
150 Johns/Jenkins have a lock. (Smith is my dark horse)
157 Rider has already pinned Micah twice and Micah is probably a major or more better than the rest of the field. Not saying Micah cant make it happen at state, but 2 horse race.
165 Miller by major in finals in my opinion.
175 Ricketts pins through if he wants
190 Couple different possible champs
215 Marcus James dominates everyone
HWT Couple different possible champs
Not a ton of depth for title contention right now. I think the depth for placement is pretty good, but the top guys have seemed to widen the gap.
I agree, I think most weights come down to one or two guys, with a clear favorite in a lot of them. The only weight I'm not really sure on is 144, could see any of the top 3-4 coming away with that, which is an even wilder weight if evans comes up to avoid a Raney.
On 2/4/2025 at 11:57 AM, itsBoston said:What weight class do you see the number 4 kid having a chance to win a title outside of maybe 144 and HWT, much less 5-10?
106 Braxton probably pins his way through
113 Wells Pins or techs his way through
120 Has some potential but Davis Tech/Pinning Roman who is #2 makes it hard to bet against him.
126 Another weight with some potential but Cornwell and Blevins have already dominated everyone else at the weight.
132 Raney pins through
138 Raney pins through
144 First weight I wouldn't be shocked at 3 different champs.
150 Johns/Jenkins have a lock. (Smith is my dark horse)
157 Rider has already pinned Micah twice and Micah is probably a major or more better than the rest of the field. Not saying Micah cant make it happen at state, but 2 horse race.
165 Miller by major in finals in my opinion.
175 Ricketts pins through if he wants
190 Couple different possible champs
215 Marcus James dominates everyone
HWT Couple different possible champs
Not a ton of depth for title contention right now. I think the depth for placement is pretty good, but the top guys have seemed to widen the gap.
First of all the rankings do not reflect who is actually number 4-10 right now anyway until after Regionals IMO,lets revisit this thread after state and see how the rankings matched up to the winners and placers if we could.
10 hours ago, Alien01 said:First of all the rankings do not reflect who is actually number 4-10 right now anyway until after Regionals IMO,lets revisit this thread after state and see how the rankings matched up to the winners and placers if we could.
A few weight classes have sorted themselves out, but there are no guarantees.
at 106: Corbett is a big favorite, but Brinkman is unbeaten in Ky and haven't seen each other.
120: Davis does have the lead, but he hasn't wrestled Ramsey, Valera, or whoever Ryle puts in. Cornwell or Page can hang with any of them.
126: Anyone can win this in the top 13. Zac Scott is a state finalist with 1 loss and its out of state. Again with Ryle- both kids are incredible. Clifford is on a tear. Blevins has only lost in Ohio. Nance, Rogers, and Smith have all had battles.
144: The top 3 are all awesome. Dennis, Meyer, and Birk. Now throw in Heisler and possibly Evans and it gets deep. Lots of seniors looking for that last shot. This weight will be fun to watch unfold.
150: Seems like a 2 man race, but a couple others can surprise people. Smith, Hicks, and Gist are unbeaten in Ky. A few other seniors will make a push. I hope Johns and Jenkins are on opposite sides of the bracket.
190: Wilson is the favorite with a OT win over Vinson and no losses in KY. Allen is unbeaten. Steiber is unbeaten in Ky and a rough schedule. Davis is a senior with his only in state loss to Wilson.
215: Marcus James has pinned or teched everyone including Hyden and Hyden has a win over defending state champ Jack James. A couple more seniors can step up here and make noise- Wallace, Lyons, and Fox.
HWT: Mooney is the favorite if he's healthy. McClure is a giant grown man that can beat any of them. Roth is unbeaten with all pins and techs. This class can be anyone's. Lots of seniors can go on a tear and make finals. Happens every year. Lots of pinners in this group. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 4th ranked kid wins it all.
With the other classes, I see clear cut favorites, but with injuries and sickness, who knows?
On 2/9/2025 at 2:14 PM, Alien01 said:First of all the rankings do not reflect who is actually number 4-10 right now anyway until after Regionals IMO,lets revisit this thread after state and see how the rankings matched up to the winners and placers if we could.
You are kind of making my point here. At most weights the guys 4-10 are so far off of the top 2-3 guys it isn't funny and could flip and flop. There just isn't much title contention depth at most weights past the top 2-3 guys.
On 2/10/2025 at 1:40 AM, Jimbobert said:
Not for revisiting after all is said and done?
3 hours ago, itsBoston said:You are kind of making my point here. At most weights the guys 4-10 are so far off of the top 2-3 guys it isn't funny and could flip and flop. There just isn't much title contention depth at most weights past the top 2-3 guys.
Thats possible,thats why its great to revisit these predictions after State to see how accurate these crystal ball pronouncements are. Have to factor in injury,illness,bad calls,etc.
10 minutes ago, Alien01 said:Not for revisiting after all is said and done?
We will all see the results of state. I think the rankings are pretty accurate. To be fair I don't know much about guys that are ranked 4-10. Most weight classes the 4-10 guys are not on the same level as the "contenders".
I just didn't understand what point you're trying to make
106 - Brinkman.
113 - Wells, easily.
120 - Davis, easily. Has people running in both directions from him (Wells and Cornwell).
126 - Blevins
132 - Raney. Easily. His competition should be the clock and how quickly he can finish five matches.
138 - Raney. See 132.
144 - Ren. He came close before, and gets another look at George at regionals. He will figure him out and will get it done.
150 - Johns. Jenkins is tough but Isaac is a pure wrestler.
157 - Trumble. It's his to lose.
165 - Miller. Easily.
175 - Ricketts. However he wants.
190 - Wilson.
215 - M. James.
285 - Mooney.
Disclaimer: I truly have no idea on 190, 215, HWT.
3 hours ago, Regional Qualifier said:106 - Brinkman.
113 - Wells, easily.
120 - Davis, easily. Has people running in both directions from him (Wells and Cornwell).
126 - Blevins
132 - Raney. Easily. His competition should be the clock and how quickly he can finish five matches.
138 - Raney. See 132.
144 - Ren. He came close before, and gets another look at George at regionals. He will figure him out and will get it done.
150 - Johns. Jenkins is tough but Isaac is a pure wrestler.
157 - Trumble. It's his to lose.
165 - Miller. Easily.
175 - Ricketts. However he wants.
190 - Wilson.
215 - M. James.
285 - Mooney.
Disclaimer: I truly have no idea on 190, 215, HWT.
Wells doesn't cut much to make 113 and majored Nico Desalvo who is ranked 12th in the country and lost to Cj Caines 12-9 who's currently ranked 2nd in the country. Ill take Wells over Davis. On the flip side of that I think Cornwell cuts a decent amount to make 120 and he doesn't see the point if he can win it at 126 (Blevins and Davis is a toss up IMO).
I agree with pretty much everywhere else, even the no idea part on 190-HWT lol
3 minutes ago, Alien01 said:Miller has no challengers at 165?
I don't see any legit challengers. Ray or Matney may be able to keep it close, but I don't see either of them getting the job done unless Miller is 100% focused on Football career and just going through the motions with wrestling. If that's the case I could see an upset but still a long shot.
5 minutes ago, itsBoston said:I don't see any legit challengers. Ray or Matney may be able to keep it close, but I don't see either of them getting the job done unless Miller is 100% focused on Football career and just going through the motions with wrestling. If that's the case I could see an upset but still a long shot.
Hes just technically superior to the whole field? Ray? Bishop? Etc. I have seen the gap between the Raneys and their fields and Davis,Johns , Ricketts and Wells too but the rest of these weights not seeing it. But not familiar with Miller as much.
Sure you can say that. I'm not sure how you measure the term "being a dawg" but Miller measures pretty high in that area.
Miller is very technically sound. He is also long and strong. Anything can happen, but outside of a huge upset he cruises.
I also feel the same way about Trumble at 157.
1 hour ago, itsBoston said:Wells doesn't cut much to make 113 and majored Nico Desalvo who is ranked 12th in the country and lost to Cj Caines 12-9 who's currently ranked 2nd in the country. Ill take Wells over Davis. On the flip side of that I think Cornwell cuts a decent amount to make 120 and he doesn't see the point if he can win it at 126 (Blevins and Davis is a toss up IMO).
I agree with pretty much everywhere else, even the no idea part on 190-HWT lol
I know Wells is legit, and I’d put him at #3 to #4 if I did a pound for pound list, I just mean that there is no risk for him at 113, and I do not fault him for going there. Maybe he beats Davis, but the size difference there between him and Wells poses a threat to a potential 2nd state title.
15 hours ago, Regional Qualifier said:I know Wells is legit, and I’d put him at #3 to #4 if I did a pound for pound list, I just mean that there is no risk for him at 113, and I do not fault him for going there. Maybe he beats Davis, but the size difference there between him and Wells poses a threat to a potential 2nd state title.
I definitely see where you are coming from on the risk side of things. At the same time if he wants to jump into the national rankings it makes it a lot harder if you wrestle 120 in state then drop to 113 for big national events. The rankings guys look at that as "he can make it one time so is he a 113 pounder or 120" type of situation. I talked to David Bray who does Flos rankings and he said Wells is next in line if there is a shift or he gets one more ranked win. (Honestly not sure why he isn't in rankings now). Plus Harrison has a solid team right now and just looking at it from the outside in I think it makes more sense with him at 113 and Mat Wasson at 120. They have the fire power to jump into the top 3 if all falls right.
15 minutes ago, itsBoston said:I definitely see where you are coming from on the risk side of things. At the same time if he wants to jump into the national rankings it makes it a lot harder if you wrestle 120 in state then drop to 113 for big national events. The rankings guys look at that as "he can make it one time so is he a 113 pounder or 120" type of situation. I talked to David Bray who does Flos rankings and he said Wells is next in line if there is a shift or he gets one more ranked win. (Honestly not sure why he isn't in rankings now). Plus Harrison has a solid team right now and just looking at it from the outside in I think it makes more sense with him at 113 and Mat Wasson at 120. They have the fire power to jump into the top 3 if all falls right.
True that. Two potential champs with bonus, and a few placers sprinkled in here and there. Should have a good showing, definitely a team built well for bracketed tournaments.
18 hours ago, Regional Qualifier said:Miller is very technically sound. He is also long and strong. Anything can happen, but outside of a huge upset he cruises.
I also feel the same way about Trumble at 157.
Will be fun to revisit this after State