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Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings - 2008/2009 PRESEASON OCT 1

Topic ID: 4248 | 109 Posts

Okay, it is October and we are only a couple weeks until practice officially kicks off.  So here is one last update for guys get into the room and on the mats every day.  Like I say every year, I welcome constructive feedback and information.  Your input is what makes this work.

103

1 Tri John Fahy 9

2 Let Co Cen Dakota Kincer 12

3 Lar Co Nick Paden 9

4 St X Byron Hoskinson 11

5 PD Pat Milford 11

6 Wood Co Robert Bracco 11

7 Sen Felix Casa del Valle 10

8 JH Wade Holtsclaw 8

9 Ohio Co Chase Boone 9

10 CH Dustin Jaggers 9

11 SO Corey Edons 10

12 Ft Knox Nick Waits 9

13 UH Wade Willen 8

14 Eas Joe Rupp 8

15 Ryle TJ Ruschell 9

16 Cam Co Jake Wells 10

17 Irq Kevin Nguyen 10

18 Pad Til David Dickson 11

19 Mon Co John Anderson

20 Sou Zack Tucker 10

112

1 Tri Myron Bradbury 11

2 Har Co Andy Lenz 12

3 Ryle Austin Palmer 11

4 CH Kyle Terry 10

5 Way Co Luke Troxell 9

6 Sen Jeff Warra 12

7 TC Zac Brown 11

8 Scott Ritchie Supe 10

9 NH Coty Wood 12

10 Chr Co Dee Leavell 12

11 JH Alex Murphy 9

12 JC Jayce Carr 9

13 St X James Severs 12

14 Laf Will Bryant 10

15 DH Michael Britton 11

16 Lar Co Joey Henderson 11

17 Un Co Neal Reburn

18 Sou James Huffine 11

19 Man Conner Johnstone 10

20 And Co Hunter Lilly 11

119

1 HC Matt Zarth 12

2 Ryle Michael Osborne 11

3 Scott Steve Supe 11

4 Un Co Isaac Thomas 11

5 NH Terrance Demery 11

6 JH Kirby Goodwine 11

7 Cam Co John Hale 11

8 SK Kevin Cooper 8

9 Lar Co Justin Thompson 12

10 Whit Co Duncan Caddell 10

11 Wood Co Travis Krauziewicz 11

12 Tri Sean Gillespie 12

13 Laf Jimmy Lacy 10

14 AB Nathaniel Bartram 11

15 Hop Tyler Martin 11

16 And Co Ben Joseph 12

17 Man Ben Schardein 10

18 BC Tyler Gies 10

19 Old Co Daniel Brenneman 10

20 Moore Shawn Cook 11

125

1 Un Co Aaron Carr 12

2 Cam Co Caleb Schneider 12

3 Eas Joaquin Luna 12

4 Sen Rayontez Harper 12

5 JH Houston Lundy 12

6 Fr Co Bryan Thompson 12

7 JC Zach Salyers 10

8 Ryle Kaleb Lonkard 10

9 Wood Co Mack Logsdon 11

10 SO Brandon Whitehouse 11

11 TC Kasey Hedges 12

12 Lar Co Christian Rojas 11

13 NO Chase Rusch 9

14 St X Kyle Honeycutt 10

15 PRP Wes Lewis 12

16 SK Korey Belew 11

17 Per Co Cen Brandon Feltner 12

18 Mc Cen Hurstle Upchurch 10

19 NH Malcolm Glover 10

20 FC Deshawn Barrow 10

130

1 Un Co Caleb Ervin 10

2 SK Steve Norbury 12

3 Way Co Aaron Dodd 10

4 HC Jack Podgorski 12

5 Chr Co Dustin Thomas 11

6 SO Steve Vaughn 12

7 Ryle Anthony Marlo 11

8 Coop TJ Bates 11

9 And Co Nick Isaacs 10

10 Cam Co Sean Hamons 10

11 Fair Jake Maupin 9

12 Cald Co Joe Young 10

13 BC Jordan Bernard 12

14 Man Sam Tongate 12

15 Tri Austin Pender 10

16 St X Tom Renfro 11

17 JH Chris Wallace 11

18 Hol Brandon Wren 11

19 Moore Justin Keisker 9

20 Des Zach Goldsmith 10

135

1 JH Josh Johnson 11

2 JC JJ Jude 9

3 Un Co Luke Ervin 12

4 Irq Rayshawn Graham 12

5 Ryle Matt Aylor 12

6 HC Cody Guiler 11

7 Sen Alex Henderson 11

8 Scott Zack Sowder 11

9 Har Co Trevor Maxwell 12

10 St X Jeff Franklin 12

11 BS Desmond Suter 12

12 Cam Co Brendan Lyle 12

13 Cen Omar Jarvis 9

14 Eas Tom Shirey 10

15 Old Co Michael Toth 11

16 Dav Co Alex Isbill 12

17 Ohio Co Patrick Bunch 11

18 Mc Cen Larry Sammons 9

19 Chr Co Austin Jones 10

20 SO Jay Gatto

140

1 Cam Co Dusty Brown 12

2 SC Matt Slone 11

3 JC Tyler Grimm 11

4 Tri Grant Ohlmann 11

5 St X John Lampe 10

6 Old Co Jeremy Bollman 12

7 Sen Ricky Wright 12

8 JH Jordan Murphy 11

9 Ohio Co Andy Kiper 12

10 CH John Erbele 12

11 NO Dan Thomson 11

12 Lar Co Logan Hull 12

13 Meade Ethan Medley 12

14 Ryle Zack Roland 11

15 Un Co Matt Young 12

16 Moore Nick Vincent 12

17 AB Kristian Rigsby 12

18 Har Co Josh Moss 11

19 Way Co Korey Smith 10

20 Eas Tom Rupp 10

145

1 Eas Justin Davis 12

2 Cam Co Korey Shotwell 11

3 JC Jordan Freeman 12

4 Nel Co Jamie Pile 12

5 Lar Co Shaquille Cox 10

6 Moore Steve Willbanks 11

7 Bull Cen Akeem Bennett 12

8 Irq Antwan Fields 11

9 PD Logan Murrell 12

10 Ohio Co Adam Lynch 12

11 CH Eric Jaggers 11

12 SO Cole Proctor 10

13 Man Tyler Ford 12

14 KCD Hardy Hendren 10

15 Un Co Matt Burke

16 NO Davis Dudley 12

17 JH Max Malito 11

18 SC Casey Delong 11

19 Hop Zack Shaw 12

20 Old Co Jacob Miles 12

152

1 Un Co Isaac Ervin 12

2 Lar Co Des Jakes 12

3 Ryle Connor Coyle 10

4 Mc Cen Preston Shoopman 11

5 SC Steven Marcum 12

6 Way Co Matthew Sullivan 11

7 Sen Cameron Broussard 11

8 Pad Til Judson Pitman 12

9 NO Jeff Thomson 12

10 Old Co Zach Talton

11 JC Todd Sites 11

12 St X Ross Robinson 11

13 Tri Erin McCauley 11

14 Meade Nelson Mason Jr 12

15 Cam Co Justin Black 12

16 CH Tim Clem 10

17 Doss Leonard Williams

18 WH Mark Davis 11

19 Vall Kasey Autry 11

20 Let Co Cen BJ Allen 11

160

1 Wood Co Harrison Courtney 12

2 PRP Dakoda Choate 12

3 Bull Cen Jeremiah Walls 12

4 Cam Co Jake Lee 11

5 JH Chris Pitcher 12

6 Lar Co Bernard Ray 9

7 Sen Lofton Wright 11

8 SO Spencer Warren 11

9 SC Austin Stepp 10

10 St X David George 12

11 Tri Dylan Harbolt 11

12 Chr Co Calvin McNeeley 12

13 Con Preston Adams 12

14 Cald Co Gavin Agnew 11

15 Meade Tanner Cole 12

16 Fr Co Josh Broning

17 Ft Knox Brian Frazier 11

18 Har Co Seth Coy 12

19 Ryle Josh Parker

20 NO Kyle Forbes 12

171

1 Tri Brad Hitchings 11

2 SC Brad Stafford 11

3 Cam Co Nathan Ilg 11

4 Irq Alex Meads 12

5 Ft Knox Sean Garcia-Chavez 12

6 NH Marcell Haynes 12

7 PRP Dusty Stengel 12

8 Ohio Co Jordan Woolen 12

9 Old Co Taylor Menard 12

10 Fr Co Jeremy Gardner 11

11 PD Nick Leddy 12

12 UH Austin Connor 12

13 Way Co Billy Floyd 12

14 Un Co Tim McKenney 10

15 And Co Marcus White 11

16 Mc Cen James Ball 11

17 Fair Tyler Cusack 12

18 Sou Evan Decker 11

19 Hop Darrick Dillard 12

20 Laf Dusty Thompson 11

189

1 SO Ryan Houchens 12

2 SK Matt Neal 12

3 Ryle Will Hogben 12

4 Tri Josh Lewis 11

5 TC Daniel Griggs 12

6 Cen Jordan Tennyson 12

7 Old Co Jeff Smith 12

8 Hop Dee Allen 12

9 Chr Co Mark Payne 12

10 Un Co Jimmy Jones 10

11 Wood Co Bill Semones 12

12 Law Co Chris Kazee 11

13 Sou Jordan Blakemore 12

14 Irq Michael Snoddy 12

15 Scott Evan Holten 12

16 Way Co Cody Mink 10

17 Har Co Brandon Barnett 10

18 Hol Mark Jones 12

19 BC Brian Robertson 12

20 Sen Alex Stengel 11

215

1 SC Ryan Kelly 12

2 Old Co Ichiro Chiba 12

3 Way Co Tyler Pace 11

4 JH Glenn Frost 11

5 Cam Co Jacob Ilg 12

6 Ryle Jacob Bradford 12

7 Tri Brock Messina 12

8 Un Co Levi Griggs 12

9 Meade Tyler Crow 11

10 Lar Co Drew Newberry 9

11 Dan Evan Hester 12

12 JC Ryan Harlow 11

13 TC Dodd Kinder 11

14 AB Evan Holbrook 12

15 SK Alex Van Winkle 11

16 Per Co Cen Steve Hollon

17 And Co J Haddix 11

18 HC(L) Austin Jaggers 12

19 SO Adam Brown 10

20 Sen Jake Falone 11

285

1 Tri Jordan Whiting 12

2 Way Co Brandon Bell 11

3 TC Nathan Gray 12

4 Chr Co Houston Croney 12

5 Cen Mister Cobble 12

6 Mc Cen Vince Staten 10

7 JC Anthony Cantrell 11

8 And Co Zach Cotton 10

9 CH Will Battle 12

10 NH Justin Browder 11

11 Dav Co Eric Brewick 12

12 DH Joe Gronefeld 12

13 Old Co Andrew Avery 12

14 Cald Co Tanner Flynn 12

15 Eas Tyler Beckett 12

16 NO Spencer Gooch 12

17 Sen Cody Hall 12

18 Ryle Brandon Adams 11

19 SO Forrest Williams 12

20 BS Jesse Chilrey 11

Team

1 Trinity (Louisville)

2 Campbell Co

3 Union Co

4 Ryle

5 John Hardin

6 Johnson Central

7 Wayne Co

8 Larue Co

9 Sheldon Clark

10 Seneca

11 South Oldham

12 Oldham Co

13 St. Xavier

14 Eastern

15 Simon Kenton

16 Woodford Co

17 Henry Clay

18 Tates Creek

19 Christian Co

20 Iroquois

21 Central Hardin

22 North Hardin

23 Scott

24 McCreary Central

25 Pleasure Ridge Park

26 Harrison Co

27 Central

28 Bullitt Central

29 North Oldham

30 Ohio Co

31 Anderson Co

32 Paul Dunbar

33 Franklin Co

34 Fort Knox

35 Letcher Co Central

36 Moore

37 Meade Co

38 Nelson Co

39 Hopkinsville

40 Caldwell Co

41 Dupont Manual

42 Southern

43 Ashland Blazer

44 Paducah Tilghman

45 Lafayette

46 Dixie Heights

47 Daviess Co

48 University Heights

49 Fairdale

50 Boone Co

51 Bryan Station

52 Cooper

53 Danville

54 Whitley Co

55 Perry Co Central

56 Lawrence Co

57 Conner

58 Kentucky Country Day

59 Holmes

60 Jeffersontown

61 Fern Creek

62 DeSales

63 Western Hills

64 Doss

65 Montgomery Co

Team Duals

1 Ryle

2 Campbell Co

3 Trinity (Louisville)

4 Union Co

5 John Hardin

6 Johnson Central

7 Seneca

8 Larue Co

9 South Oldham

10 Oldham Co

11 Tates Creek

12 Christian Co

13 Woodford Co

14 Sheldon Clark

15 Iroquois

16 Pleasure Ridge Park

BJ Allen of letcher country is not in the 11th grade.

he graduated last year.

I hear that Dee Allen - Hopkinsville's 189/ranked 8th - has moved out of state.

160

1 Wood Co Harrison Courtney 12

2 PRP Dakoda Choate 12

3 Bull Cen Jeremiah Walls 12

4 Cam Co Jake Lee 11

5 JH Chris Pitcher 12

6 Lar Co Bernard Ray 9

7 Sen Lofton Wright 11

8 SO Spencer Warren 11

9 SC Austin Stepp 10

10 St X David George 12

11 Tri Dylan Harbolt 11

12 Chr Co Calvin McNeeley 12

13 Con Preston Adams 12

14 Cald Co Gavin Agnew 11

15 Meade Tanner Cole 12

16 Fr Co Josh Broning

17 Ft Knox Brian Frazier 11

18 Har Co Seth Coy 12

19 Ryle Josh Parker

20 NO Kyle Forbes 12

171

1 Tri Brad Hitchings 11

2 SC Brad Stafford 11

3 Cam Co Nathan Ilg 11

4 Irq Alex Meads 12

5 Ft Knox Sean Garcia-Chavez 12

6 NH Marcell Haynes 12

7 PRP Dusty Stengel 12

8 Ohio Co Jordan Woolen 12

9 Old Co Taylor Menard 12

10 Fr Co Jeremy Gardner 11

11 PD Nick Leddy 12

12 UH Austin Connor 12

13 Way Co Billy Floyd 12

14 Un Co Tim McKenney 10

15 And Co Marcus White 11

16 Mc Cen James Ball 11

17 Fair Tyler Cusack 12

18 Sou Evan Decker 11

19 Hop Darrick Dillard 12

20 Laf Dusty Thompson 11

Ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate isnt NOT, i repeat NOT second in state, considering he won state last year, where the crap did you get that?!?!?!?!? Second of all tyler cusack isnt 17th, where did you get that?! hes good but not that good. And Wes Lewis does NOT go to prp. he goes to Doss. Get your stuff straight! As a prp student I know for a fact he doesnt go to prp, thank you.

160

1 Wood Co Harrison Courtney 12

2 PRP Dakoda Choate 12

3 Bull Cen Jeremiah Walls 12

4 Cam Co Jake Lee 11

5 JH Chris Pitcher 12

6 Lar Co Bernard Ray 9

7 Sen Lofton Wright 11

8 SO Spencer Warren 11

9 SC Austin Stepp 10

10 St X David George 12

11 Tri Dylan Harbolt 11

12 Chr Co Calvin McNeeley 12

13 Con Preston Adams 12

14 Cald Co Gavin Agnew 11

15 Meade Tanner Cole 12

16 Fr Co Josh Broning

17 Ft Knox Brian Frazier 11

18 Har Co Seth Coy 12

19 Ryle Josh Parker

20 NO Kyle Forbes 12

171

1 Tri Brad Hitchings 11

2 SC Brad Stafford 11

3 Cam Co Nathan Ilg 11

4 Irq Alex Meads 12

5 Ft Knox Sean Garcia-Chavez 12

6 NH Marcell Haynes 12

7 PRP Dusty Stengel 12

8 Ohio Co Jordan Woolen 12

9 Old Co Taylor Menard 12

10 Fr Co Jeremy Gardner 11

11 PD Nick Leddy 12

12 UH Austin Connor 12

13 Way Co Billy Floyd 12

14 Un Co Tim McKenney 10

15 And Co Marcus White 11

16 Mc Cen James Ball 11

17 Fair Tyler Cusack 12

18 Sou Evan Decker 11

19 Hop Darrick Dillard 12

20 Laf Dusty Thompson 11

Ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate isnt NOT, i repeat NOT second in state, considering he won state last year, where the crap did you get that?!?!?!?!? Second of all tyler cusack isnt 17th, where did you get that?! hes good but not that good. And Wes Lewis does NOT go to prp. he goes to Doss. Get your stuff straight! As a prp student I know for a fact he doesnt go to prp, thank you.

ZZZZZIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGG lol

160

1 Wood Co Harrison Courtney 12

2 PRP Dakoda Choate 12

3 Bull Cen Jeremiah Walls 12

4 Cam Co Jake Lee 11

5 JH Chris Pitcher 12

6 Lar Co Bernard Ray 9

7 Sen Lofton Wright 11

8 SO Spencer Warren 11

9 SC Austin Stepp 10

10 St X David George 12

11 Tri Dylan Harbolt 11

12 Chr Co Calvin McNeeley 12

13 Con Preston Adams 12

14 Cald Co Gavin Agnew 11

15 Meade Tanner Cole 12

16 Fr Co Josh Broning

17 Ft Knox Brian Frazier 11

18 Har Co Seth Coy 12

19 Ryle Josh Parker

20 NO Kyle Forbes 12

171

1 Tri Brad Hitchings 11

2 SC Brad Stafford 11

3 Cam Co Nathan Ilg 11

4 Irq Alex Meads 12

5 Ft Knox Sean Garcia-Chavez 12

6 NH Marcell Haynes 12

7 PRP Dusty Stengel 12

8 Ohio Co Jordan Woolen 12

9 Old Co Taylor Menard 12

10 Fr Co Jeremy Gardner 11

11 PD Nick Leddy 12

12 UH Austin Connor 12

13 Way Co Billy Floyd 12

14 Un Co Tim McKenney 10

15 And Co Marcus White 11

16 Mc Cen James Ball 11

17 Fair Tyler Cusack 12

18 Sou Evan Decker 11

19 Hop Darrick Dillard 12

20 Laf Dusty Thompson 11

Ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate isnt NOT, i repeat NOT second in state, considering he won state last year, where the crap did you get that?!?!?!?!? Second of all tyler cusack isnt 17th, where did you get that?! hes good but not that good. And Wes Lewis does NOT go to prp. he goes to Doss. Get your stuff straight! As a prp student I know for a fact he doesnt go to prp, thank you.

ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate IS, i reapeat IS second in state, considering Harrison Courtney has won state 3 years in a row, pinning in the finals for the last two years.

Shucks, you beat me to it. I wanted to be the one to inform ole Hot Rod of how foolish he just made himself sound in that message. Do your homework before you come on here to bash our buddy Ranger. keep up the good work Ranger. I see a couple of changes that could happen over the next few months but overall right on as usual.

Yes Dee Allen moved

Dan Thomson is 3-0 with Jeremy Bollman. 

160

1 Wood Co Harrison Courtney 12

2 PRP Dakoda Choate 12

3 Bull Cen Jeremiah Walls 12

4 Cam Co Jake Lee 11

5 JH Chris Pitcher 12

6 Lar Co Bernard Ray 9

7 Sen Lofton Wright 11

8 SO Spencer Warren 11

9 SC Austin Stepp 10

10 St X David George 12

11 Tri Dylan Harbolt 11

12 Chr Co Calvin McNeeley 12

13 Con Preston Adams 12

14 Cald Co Gavin Agnew 11

15 Meade Tanner Cole 12

16 Fr Co Josh Broning

17 Ft Knox Brian Frazier 11

18 Har Co Seth Coy 12

19 Ryle Josh Parker

20 NO Kyle Forbes 12

171

1 Tri Brad Hitchings 11

2 SC Brad Stafford 11

3 Cam Co Nathan Ilg 11

4 Irq Alex Meads 12

5 Ft Knox Sean Garcia-Chavez 12

6 NH Marcell Haynes 12

7 PRP Dusty Stengel 12

8 Ohio Co Jordan Woolen 12

9 Old Co Taylor Menard 12

10 Fr Co Jeremy Gardner 11

11 PD Nick Leddy 12

12 UH Austin Connor 12

13 Way Co Billy Floyd 12

14 Un Co Tim McKenney 10

15 And Co Marcus White 11

16 Mc Cen James Ball 11

17 Fair Tyler Cusack 12

18 Sou Evan Decker 11

19 Hop Darrick Dillard 12

20 Laf Dusty Thompson 11

Ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate isnt NOT, i repeat NOT second in state, considering he won state last year, where the crap did you get that?!?!?!?!? Second of all tyler cusack isnt 17th, where did you get that?! hes good but not that good. And Wes Lewis does NOT go to prp. he goes to Doss. Get your stuff straight! As a prp student I know for a fact he doesnt go to prp, thank you.

Heheheheheh.

Wow.

So what is the criteria for being 17th in state?

      160 

1  Wood Co  Harrison Courtney  12

2  PRP  Dakoda Choate  12

3  Bull Cen  Jeremiah Walls  12

4  Cam Co  Jake Lee  11

5  JH  Chris Pitcher  12

6  Lar Co  Bernard Ray  9

7  Sen  Lofton Wright  11

8  SO  Spencer Warren  11

9  SC  Austin Stepp  10

10  St X  David George  12

11  Tri  Dylan Harbolt  11

12  Chr Co  Calvin McNeeley  12

13  Con  Preston Adams  12

14  Cald Co  Gavin Agnew  11

15  Meade  Tanner Cole  12

16  Fr Co  Josh Broning 

17  Ft Knox  Brian Frazier  11

18  Har Co  Seth Coy  12

19  Ryle  Josh Parker 

20  NO  Kyle Forbes  12

       

      171 

1  Tri  Brad Hitchings  11

2  SC  Brad Stafford  11

3  Cam Co  Nathan Ilg  11

4  Irq  Alex Meads  12

5  Ft Knox  Sean Garcia-Chavez  12

6  NH  Marcell Haynes  12

7  PRP  Dusty Stengel  12

8  Ohio Co  Jordan Woolen  12

9  Old Co  Taylor Menard  12

10  Fr Co  Jeremy Gardner  11

11  PD  Nick Leddy  12

12  UH  Austin Connor  12

13  Way Co  Billy Floyd  12

14  Un Co  Tim McKenney  10

15  And Co  Marcus White  11

16  Mc Cen  James Ball  11

17  Fair  Tyler Cusack  12

18  Sou  Evan Decker  11

19  Hop  Darrick Dillard  12

20  Laf  Dusty Thompson  11

       

Ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate isnt NOT, i repeat NOT second in state, considering he won state last year, where the crap did you get that?!?!?!?!? Second of all tyler cusack isnt 17th, where did you get that?! hes good but not that good. And Wes Lewis does NOT go to prp. he goes to Doss. Get your stuff straight! As a prp student I know for a fact he doesnt go to prp, thank you.

hahahahaha um yes harrison courtney is ranked number 1 because he is a 3 time state champ and no one in kentucky will touch him.... Choate is a good wrestler but in my opinion he got really really lucky at state, but you have to remember hes only won once.... last year a defending state champ didnt evn place at state so what do you think a one timer is going to do vs a 3 timer.... no brainer here man ... ill be suprised if choate even makes it to the finals with harrison.... and even if me does im predicting a pin just like the previous 2 years... except this time in the first period... harrison is the true example of heart and determination and i dont think anyone in kentucky can touch him or will for tat matter

is harrison stayin 160 this year or is he going to drop later in the year

Heheheheheh.

Wow.

So what is the criteria for being 17th in state?

i dont know about that guy, all i know is the kid said he was good but not that good and i cant remember a 17th in state ever really being good, they might be ok but 17th is definitely not good.

i think chris wallace should be ranked higher at 130 because last yr a regions he handled steven rivera at 135 before gettin pinned via gator roll..

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26 is matt neal and 40 is jordan wilson

just saying wrestling make good football player

Dan Thomson is 3-0 with Jeremy Bollman. 

Yeah, I know Thomson has been impressive at times, but Bollman stepped it up when it was game time and brought home a medal.  So for now he gets the nod.

hot rod - in case the others have not covered it enough for your understanding, let me dumb it down for you.  Harrison Courtney is the man in KY.  He would be one of the favorites at any weight.  3 time state champ, going for 4.  Should already have that 4th title, but nerves got the better of him as an 8th grader as he lost on a stalling call to the eventual state champ (still came back to get third).  He is a beast.  Enough said.  I'm not even going to argue over whether someone should or shouldn't be ranked #17.  I'm sorry if Cusack stole your lunch money or pulled the head off your barbie doll over the summer.  AND IT IS #17!  RELAX!  The talk on here over the spring or summer was that Lewis was going to PRP.  I heard it from a couple of reliable sources so I made the change.  For some reason I guess it didn't happen.  Maybe he realized there were too many eggheads like you at the Ridge.  I don't know.  I am not a student at PRP or Doss and I'm not his uncle so I don't know where he decided to go to school.

So mr not so hot rod, before you come on here running you mouth, maybe you should get a better idea what you are talking about and get your facts straight.  I have never claimed to know it all or be perfect with these rankings.  I get a tremendous amount of input from coaches, parents, wrestlers, and fans to make them the most accurate that we have in the state.

RANGER????? Is that You????

What have you done to yourself.  Have you had one of those make over deals. 

Awww c'mon did all the guys chip in and take you to Glammer Shots?

Or did Danger finally hook you up with his older sister?

Doesn't matter I like the new look  :-D but more importantly I love the new "TUDE"

As "Sharkboy" would say. "Give em shell Ranger"  :-D :evil:  :mrgreen:

Let's just say the football season has been too long for me and little Ranger's team has me stressed out.

Anyway, no offense meant to the many PRP guys on here.  Just the few numbskulls who know who they are.  I've spent my fair share of time down on Dixie Highway and the PRP kdis and coaching staff were a big help to me.  I guess this is a prime example of how one bad egg can reflect poorly on an entire team, school, or organization.

Or did Danger finally hook you up with his older sister?

I'm from Fairdale, son. Anybody gonna hook up with my sister, it's gonna be me!

:-P

i dont know about that guy, all i know is the kid said he was good but not that good and i cant remember a 17th in state ever really being good, they might be ok but 17th is definitely not good.

I believe the criteria for being 17th in the state is being better than the guy whos ranked 18th...

and good luck with that Danger

hot rod - in case the others have not covered it enough for your understanding, let me dumb it down for you.  Harrison Courtney is the man in KY.  He would be one of the favorites at any weight.  3 time state champ, going for 4.  Should already have that 4th title, but nerves got the better of him as an 8th grader as he lost on a stalling call to the eventual state champ (still came back to get third).  He is a beast.  Enough said.  I'm not even going to argue over whether someone should or shouldn't be ranked #17.  I'm sorry if Cusack stole your lunch money or pulled the head off your barbie doll over the summer.  AND IT IS #17!  RELAX!  The talk on here over the spring or summer was that Lewis was going to PRP.  I heard it from a couple of reliable sources so I made the change.  For some reason I guess it didn't happen.  Maybe he realized there were too many eggheads like you at the Ridge.  I don't know.  I am not a student at PRP or Doss and I'm not his uncle so I don't know where he decided to go to school.

So mr not so hot rod, before you come on here running you mouth, maybe you should get a better idea what you are talking about and get your facts straight.  I have never claimed to know it all or be perfect with these rankings.  I get a tremendous amount of input from coaches, parents, wrestlers, and fans to make them the most accurate that we have in the state.

see i really wanted to say it like this, but the last time i did that i got banned for a week  :lol:

Good job ranger im glad somebody told it to him the right way.

i dont know about that guy, all i know is the kid said he was good but not that good and i cant remember a 17th in state ever really being good, they might be ok but 17th is definitely not good.

little supe was ranked 18th before state and got 8th so that not always true

ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate IS, i reapeat IS second in state, considering Harrison Courtney has won state 3 years in a row, pinning in the finals for the last two years.

Actually Harrison only pinned this year in the finals... He won his first title by a dec... The nex over Sanders by a major 10-1 and pinned this year. And he is not untouchable as some of us like to believe. I believe that Beau led the match 2-1 till the middle of the 2nd when he got put on his back.

Actually Harrison only pinned this year in the finals... He won his first title by a dec... The nex over Sanders by a major 10-1 and pinned this year. And he is not untouchable as some of us like to believe. I believe that Beau led the match 2-1 till the middle of the 2nd when he got put on his back.

But Dakota IS, I repeat IS, ranked second....  and yea maybe he might not get pinned but Harrison is still better

Yeah, I know Thomson has been impressive at times, but Bollman stepped it up when it was game time and brought home a medal.  So for now he gets the nod.

I think bollman got the medal because of his draw. Thomson had to go against Sloan or Miller (i can't remember) in his final match at state which was a MAJOR disadvantage. I will have my money on Thomson over Bollman when they meet up this year easy.

Actually Harrison only pinned this year in the finals... He won his first title by a dec... The nex over Sanders by a major 10-1 and pinned this year. And he is not untouchable as some of us like to believe. I believe that Beau led the match 2-1 till the middle of the 2nd when he got put on his back.

bue was a better wrestler on his feet, but the over all class of wrestler was not even close harrison is not closely matched with anyone in the state, maybe if dusty brown, or matt zarth  was his size then he would have a close match, but to say choat is a close match is just an uneducated dream.

Actually Harrison only pinned this year in the finals... He won his first title by a dec... The nex over Sanders by a major 10-1 and pinned this year. And he is not untouchable as some of us like to believe. I believe that Beau led the match 2-1 till the middle of the 2nd when he got put on his back.

I agree he's not untouchable.  :-D  But get on the mat with him and I'll guarantee that it's far from an easy match.  He won't give up an offensive point this year unless he meets some stud from out of state.

Sanders led the match for a few seconds in the first minute of the 1st period . Courtney soon escaped took him down and repeatedly put him to his back in the first and then pinned him like a minute into the second.

Beau Sanders is a great wrestler and certainly deserving of being a state champ under normal circumstances. Having a Harrison Courtney is not a normal circumstance. Harrison is a once in a lifetime or at a minumum, a once in a generation wrestler. Harrison was never in danger of losing any match last year at state. Beau should have been considered the 2nd most valuable wrestler in the state meet last year for simply scoring a point against Harrison. 

Beau Sanders is a great wrestler and certainly deserving of being a state champ under normal circumstances. Having a Harrison Courtney is not a normal circumstance. Harrison is a once in a lifetime or at a minumum, a once in a generation wrestler. Harrison was never in danger of losing any match last year at state. Beau should have been considered the 2nd most valuable wrestler in the state meet last year for simply scoring a point against Harrison. 

i kind of disagree, i feel that if you put harrison into a state like Ohio or Pennsylvania, yes he could still win state and he could be in the top 5, that he would have some trouble and some close matches and most likely not an undefeated record, but if you put bue in such a place he would have tons of trouble trying to place.

and saying bue should be 2nd most valuable is well dumb, putting bue above mason reid or brian peace is well (not to sound like a broken record) dumb

i kind of disagree, i feel that if you put harrison into a state like Ohio or Pennsylvania, yes he could still win state and he could be in the top 5, that he would have some trouble and some close matches and most likely not an undefeated record, but if you put bue in such a place he would have tons of trouble trying to place.

and saying bue should be 2nd most valuable is well dumb, putting bue above mason reid or brian peace is well (not to sound like a broken record) dumb

My comment about Sanders being 2nd MVW was a joke, an indirect way to bolster my point about Courtney being so good. Perhaps the "dumb" person is the one who doesn't under satire.

My comment about Harrison being a generational wrestler applies to Ky at this point. I honestly can't tell you, on a first hand basis, what wrestling is like in these other states.

My comment about Sanders being 2nd MVW was a joke, an indirect way to bolster my point about Courtney being so good. Perhaps the "dumb" person is the one who doesn't under satire.

My comment about Harrison being a generational wrestler applies to Ky at this point. I honestly can't tell you, on a first hand basis, what wrestling is like in these other states.

no worry i wasnt meaning to call you dumb, just was saying that in a literal sense that your statement was dumb, but i see what you are saying and i kind of agree

My comment about Sanders being 2nd MVW was a joke, an indirect way to bolster my point about Courtney being so good. Perhaps the "dumb" person is the one who doesn't under satire.

My comment about Harrison being a generational wrestler applies to Ky at this point. I honestly can't tell you, on a first hand basis, what wrestling is like in these other states.

I don't want to put Kentucky wrestling down because I am a product of the state.  However I can tell you that Ohio and Pennsylvania are significantly ahead of Kentucky.  I mention these two states because maybe half my college team was from one of the two.  Many of their state qualifiers would be Kentucky state champs.  Now they are two of the three best states in the country year in year out, we're closer to states like WV and TN but still probably behind them too.  For example, I wrestled with a kid in college, two years younger than me, who beat Jacob Murton in high school.  As we all know, Murton came to Kentucky after placing fifth in Ohio as a freshman, and dominated the state all three years he was here.  The kid I was in college with only placed his senior year, 5th, but was a 4x national qualifier in college (Division II).  Had he not been so lazy he would have definitely been an All-American.

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8 SO Spencer Warren 11

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13 Con Preston Adams 12

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15 Meade Tanner Cole 12

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Ok, so first of all Dakoda Choate isnt NOT, i repeat NOT second in state, considering he won state last year, where the crap did you get that?!?!?!?!? Second of all tyler cusack isnt 17th, where did you get that?! hes good but not that good. And Wes Lewis does NOT go to prp. he goes to Doss. Get your stuff straight! As a prp student I know for a fact he doesnt go to prp, thank you.

hahahahaha um yes harrison courtney is ranked number 1 because he is a 3 time state champ and no one in kentucky will touch him.... Choate is a good wrestler but in my opinion he got really really lucky at state, but you have to remember hes only won once.... last year a defending state champ didnt evn place at state so what do you think a one timer is going to do vs a 3 timer.... no brainer here man ... ill be suprised if choate even makes it to the finals with harrison.... and even if me does im predicting a pin just like the previous 2 years... except this time in the first period... harrison is the true example of heart and determination and i dont think anyone in kentucky can touch him or will for tat matter

I agree with this guy, Choate did get lucky i dont think he should of beat that Harrison County kid and no one will touch Harrison Courtney this year for sure.

I don't want to put Kentucky wrestling down because I am a product of the state.  However I can tell you that Ohio and Pennsylvania are significantly ahead of Kentucky.  I mention these two states because maybe half my college team was from one of the two.  Many of their state qualifiers would be Kentucky state champs.  Now they are two of the three best states in the country year in year out, we're closer to states like WV and TN but still probably behind them too.  For example, I wrestled with a kid in college, two years younger than me, who beat Jacob Murton in high school.  As we all know, Murton came to Kentucky after placing fifth in Ohio as a freshman, and dominated the state all three years he was here.  The kid I was in college with only placed his senior year, 5th, but was a 4x national qualifier in college (Division II).  Had he not been so lazy he would have definitely been an All-American.

umm i wrestled a guy who placed 5th in ohio and beat him!

I agree with this guy, Choate did get lucky i dont think he should of beat that Harrison County kid and no one will touch Harrison Courtney this year for sure.

WHAT!?!?!

WHAT!?!?!

Everyone knows that Ashbrook was far more the better wrestler that match... Look at what he did the next two matches when he was in a good state of mind... Pinning Vaughn in under a minute and almost tech falling Trent Webb... If i recall Trent Webb teched Choate earlier in the season... The match with ashbrook and choate was horrible... Worst match of ashbrooks that season and it came at the wrong time. But its over now and nothin can be done about it.

I don't want to put Kentucky wrestling down because I am a product of the state.  However I can tell you that Ohio and Pennsylvania are significantly ahead of Kentucky.  I mention these two states because maybe half my college team was from one of the two.  Many of their state qualifiers would be Kentucky state champs.  Now they are two of the three best states in the country year in year out, we're closer to states like WV and TN but still probably behind them too.  For example, I wrestled with a kid in college, two years younger than me, who beat Jacob Murton in high school.  As we all know, Murton came to Kentucky after placing fifth in Ohio as a freshman, and dominated the state all three years he was here.  The kid I was in college with only placed his senior year, 5th, but was a 4x national qualifier in college (Division II).  Had he not been so lazy he would have definitely been an All-American.

How a person does in high school does not necessarily correlate to how a person will do in college, and vice versa. Likewise, how someone did as a freshman doesn't correlate to what they will do later. Some kids blossom early while others are later. Travis Sullivan blossomed very early, as a freshman he easily pinned every opponent I believe in the first or second period of the state tournament. As other kids developed, he struggled a little more as the years progressed. There are kids wrestling in Ky who got 3rd as a 7th grader and after several years of returning to the tournament still haven't gotten close to the 3rd place spot.

I believe Cal Sanderson won state once or twice????? 

Sanderson compiled a 127-3 record wrestling for his father, Steve, at Wasatch High School, winning four Utah state titles

umm i wrestled a guy who placed 5th in ohio and beat him!

Good for you, and I mean that seriously.  A question though.  Do you happen to know what division he was wrestled in Ohio?  I have heard from many that DI is much different than DIII, just like college.  Either way it was probably a good win.

I don't think Sullivan is a good example, and this has been discussed many times on here, he wrestled almost completely freshman and sophomores his whole career.  I'd be willing to bet, although I don't know him that well, that he got lazy as his career went on because he was winning so much.  By the way who are you referring to that got 3rd as a 7th grader.  I don't recall anybody placing in 7th grade other than Courtney and he got 8th at 119.

Choate didn't get lucky, I believe you have to be ready for your opportunities when they come along.  However Ashbrook wrestled a HORRIBLE match, definitely not what he was capable of.  Ashbrook was definitely the best wrestler at 152 last year but he didn't wrestle well when it counted so I give props to Choate.  However I firmly believe that Courtney will dominate him if they wrestle this year.

By the way Sanderson was a 4x champ in high school and was on the Dream Team.  He also won Senior Nationals.

People forget that Choate was hurt almost all of last year.  Anybody that was around him knows that last year was a pretty hard year both mentally and physically.  Before his junior season his only losses came from Wolfsifer(sp?).  I believe that he finally started wrestling decent at state, and that is where it counted.  I wouldnt say he got lucky.  I am not saying that he will beat Courtney.  Courtney is one of the best I have seen come through Ky in a while, and I have a lot of respect for him.  I do believe that it will be closer then some think however.  Choates style of wrestling keeps matches close, but he will need to improve drastically to beat Courtney.  It definitely is not impossible.  For some reason I say they end up in different weight classes and Dusty Stengel pins Courtney.

For some reason I say they end up in different weight classes and Dusty Stengel pins Courtney.

To be honest with you, this is the only likely scenerio that I see playing itself out.

wow so i want to reply to alot of what was said but it would take way to much effort

so i say, choat won deal with it (even though i think it stinks)

courtney is the best pouund for pound wrestler in the state.

and lastly i cant wait to eat some walking tacos!

People forget that Choate was hurt almost all of last year.  Anybody that was around him knows that last year was a pretty hard year both mentally and physically.  Before his junior season his only losses came from Wolfsifer(sp?).  I believe that he finally started wrestling decent at state, and that is where it counted.  I wouldnt say he got lucky.  I am not saying that he will beat Courtney.  Courtney is one of the best I have seen come through Ky in a while, and I have a lot of respect for him.  I do believe that it will be closer then some think however.  Choates style of wrestling keeps matches close, but he will need to improve drastically to beat Courtney.  It definitely is not impossible.  For some reason I say they end up in different weight classes and Dusty Stengel pins Courtney.

Did you make a mistake in that last sentence or is that what you meant?  Who is Dusty Stengel?

Did you make a mistake in that last sentence or is that what you meant?  Who is Dusty Stengel?

The man, the myth, the legend.  Who doesnt know who Dusty Stengel is? 

Did you make a mistake in that last sentence or is that what you meant?  Who is Dusty Stengel?

You rang?

The man, the myth, the legend.  Who doesnt know who Dusty Stengel is? 

JPIZAR must live under a rock...or in Woodford County. lol

There is a 7th grader who got 3rd and is now an upper classman.

Everyone knows that Ashbrook was far more the better wrestler that match... Look at what he did the next two matches when he was in a good state of mind... Pinning Vaughn in under a minute and almost tech falling Trent Webb... If i recall Trent Webb teched Choate earlier in the season... The match with ashbrook and choate was horrible... Worst match of ashbrooks that season and it came at the wrong time. But its over now and nothin can be done about it.

Ashbrook is a good wrestler but choate won. and if your basing whose better by there match against trent webb then Sam Isaacs teched trent webb in 30 sec in the secound round. Choate couldnt beat Harrison tho. Choate is a good wrestler but he is a low score defensive wrestler. and i dont think his defense could compare to Harrisons attack.

ooh yea. Sam Isaacs got cheated in the state finals. Giving a point for pushin out of bounds. He was holding on as dakota ran out. They should of let them wrestle. to win a state finals like that is wack.

I believe Harrison will be a 52 tho. and they wont ever wrestle.

courtney is going 60

JPIZAR must live under a rock...or in Woodford County. lol

Actually both I guess lol.  Went to Woodford then WV to wrestle in college for 5 and a half years, just returned this past season.  Again who is Dusty Stengel, who does he wrestle for, has he accomplished anything?  I didn't see him as a placer last year anywhere around Courtney's weight.  Obviously his screename on here is Danger but that doesn't tell me anything.  Remember I've been living under a rock.  :-D

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Stengels in the white!!

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Stengels in the white!!

Tony, I love you in a completely non-homo way. lol

Anybody know if the new Harlen school has a wrestling team?

I've heard they were going to try and start one.

Ashbrook is a good wrestler but choate won. and if your basing whose better by there match against trent webb then Sam Isaacs teched trent webb in 30 sec in the secound round. Choate couldnt beat Harrison tho. Choate is a good wrestler but he is a low score defensive wrestler. and i dont think his defense could compare to Harrisons attack.

ooh yea. Sam Isaacs got cheated in the state finals. Giving a point for pushin out of bounds. He was holding on as dakota ran out. They should of let them wrestle. to win a state finals like that is wack.

I believe Harrison will be a 52 tho. and they wont ever wrestle.

The best wrestler, best individual, best team does not always win.  When it comes to any championship event all that matters is who is best that day or that weekend.  Good, bad, or the worst wrestler in KY history it doesn't matter Choate was the best that weekend and rightfully deserves the title of State Champion.

Also for all of you throwing out facts please make sure to include all the facts not just the ones that support your argument.  Webb did tech Choate but it was just after Choate returned from an injury.  Yes Webb got teched by Isaacs but he also came back to beat him in a close match at Regions before losing a close match 9-5 in the state semifinals.

The best wrestler, best individual, best team does not always win.  When it comes to any championship event all that matters is who is best that day or that weekend.  Good, bad, or the worst wrestler in KY history it doesn't matter Choate was the best that weekend and rightfully deserves the title of State Champion.

Also for all of you throwing out facts please make sure to include all the facts not just the ones that support your argument.  Webb did tech Choate but it was just after Choate returned from an injury.  Yes Webb got teched by Isaacs but he also came back to beat him in a close match at Regions before losing a close match 9-5 in the state semifinals.

Try taking your own advice about knowing the facts.  Webb beat Choate by 13 I believe.  That is not a tech!

    Regardless of how it went down.  Webb was a nice suprise.  Not many people actually knew who he was going into the season.  He made some great improvements in one year.  I would have to give him is props on that, and also a tip of a hat to his coaching staff. 

    As for Choate. I'm not a Choate fan myself.  He doesn't show me much, he usually capatalizes on others mistakes.  This wrestling style unfortunately works in KY.  I will say this he does know how to win.

    Ashbrook was in my opinion the best wrestler in that wt. class.  However unlike Choate he never knew how to win the big one. Sort of like Thuenerman.  A true champion knows how to win all the time. 

    Finally Sammy Isaccs.  I had always liked watching this kid wrestle.  I'm glad he finally made it to the finals.  He was always good enough to make it but always fell short. If I were a DII or smaller wrestling coach I would look at Sammy.  I think he has the abillity to improve the most.  Not taking anything away from his coaches but he went to a school that has not been considered a wrestling powerhouse.

    Two cents is correct.  The best team/wrestler does not always win. Just look at the NFL last year.

Choate isn't wrestling. I'm pretty pissed. Kinda let me down.

Choate isn't wrestling. I'm pretty pissed. Kinda let me down.

You're a little early for April fools there Dusty!

No April fools. I don't care if the coaches want people to know or not. I'm sick of the back and forth not knowing if he's wrestling or even in school. He no longer goes to PRP. He won't be eligable to wrestle anywhere. He's done. He was suppose to be my partener and we were suppose to get eachother where we needed to be. Me and him. It was gonna be our year. Now it's gone. I'm very disappointed.

From what I have heard it is true that Choate will not be wrestling this year.  Sad to hear indeed.

From what I have heard it is true that Choate will not be wrestling this year.  Sad to hear indeed.

It's true.  Dakoda does not attend PRP anymore.  He transferred to North Hardin.  He will not be able to wrestle, but does plan to play baseball there.  Disappointed is an understatement.  I beleive he could have changed peoples minds about the way he wrestles this year.

It's true.  Dakoda does not attend PRP anymore.  He transferred to North Hardin.  He will not be able to wrestle, but does plan to play baseball there.  Disappointed is an understatement.  I beleive he could have changed peoples minds about the way he wrestles this year.

so...how is he able to play baseball, but cant wrestle...is it that he just does not want to wrestle

The only way he would be eligable for baseball is if he did not play baseball with PRP.

Why would he trasfer his senior year?

If he trasfered because his family moved then he would still be eligable for wrestling.

It's true.  Dakoda does not attend PRP anymore.  He transferred to North Hardin.  He will not be able to wrestle, but does plan to play baseball there.  Disappointed is an understatement.  I beleive he could have changed peoples minds about the way he wrestles this year.

wow.. north hardin... i wonder if choate will assist them in coaching the team or not??

The only way he would be eligable for baseball is if he did not play baseball with PRP.

Why would he trasfer his senior year?

If he trasfered because his family moved then he would still be eligable for wrestling.

Well whatever the reason for the transfer..i believe choate has pissed ole danger off

:-( yea its true im no longer wrestling, but get all the facts right before everything gets started. im not going to north hardin at all, wrestling was my passion and i loved it. i spent my whole summer wrestling in tournaments. school came around and everything was fine i was making good grades and not missing school. i was in good shape from soccer, yes i was 20 pounds over 160 but i was in good shape. what happened was personal and there was nothing i could have done about it. dusty sorry to let you down but life isnt always easy. coach thanks for thinking i could have changed peoples minds this year and to everyone that talked bad about me and wasnt a choate fan or anything then oh well i guess i just gave you one less wrestler to get on here and talk about.

Dakoda - while i admit i wasn't a big fan of your style of wrestling or the pink hair (just kidding)...there was no denying you were successful and a STATE CHAMP.  No one can take that away.  You always seemed like a good kid on your posts.  It's a shame to hear you're going through some rough times, hopefully God has a plan for you and things work out for the best in the end. 

Good luck to you.

Choate its a shame.. you were such a good wrestler, I do not know what happened but i wish you the best of luck in whatever you do..

Look out for some surprises in Region 6, wrestler has been cleared to wrestle this year which was not able to last year.

I kno this is off the subject of choate and im really sorry i was a big fan when he beat sammy

but austin jones will be goin 125 this year he is about 130 now

I dont think choate beat sammy. Sammy beat sammy. Choate got lucky that the ref called such a bad call of pushin off the mat. If not called the score 1-1. It was the state finals some dumb call for it. Let a champion actually win. Not saying choate still wouldnt of won but he would of had to try to actually score instead of being just defensive the rest of the match after that call.

by the way 6minutes since you want to pick on me a year after my state championship but that call is also the only reason ashbrooke and I even went into over time. I had that call against me to tie the match up and send it into overtime.

Lets just end the Choate topic. I don't care if you like him, don't like him, or don't know who he is. He isn't wrestling so he doesn't need to be discussed. Lets keep the conversation focused on something that pertains to this upcoming season.

    OH but Danger it does pertain to this season.  This is the second time in two years that a returning state champion will not be wrestling his senior year. 

To me this is very disturbing. 

State champions do not just represent the wrestling quality of Ky.  They also represent the sport and all it stands for. 

We pride ourselves as being wrestlers. 

--Like all athletes you must keep your grades up and stay out of trouble.

But above this----

--We tell everyone to be a wrestler you have to defeat your own demons before you can defeat the person in front on you. 

--You must be strong willed, to make weight every wed. and sat. 

--You must be extremely well dedicated to give 4-5 days a week 2-3 hours a day in the wrestling room

--2-3 more on Wed. and 12+ hours on a saturday

--And to top it all off you must do this without the accolades that the basketball players recieves for playing 10 minutes in each game, or the football player who only plays half the game either on offense or defense. 

I don't know what the reason that Coate is not wrestling or Wolsiefer did not wrestle, nor do I particularly care (not trying to be rude)

What I do care about is that state champions are suppose to be bigger than life, looked up to by the younger wrestlers.  Show them how to be a champion, and do it gracefully.  And (if they have not graduated) try to defend that title with sportsmanship. Such as Courtney has and Sullivan tried to do (showing good sportsmanship in defeat).

A returning state champion not defending his title changes everything.  Many wrestlers and teams look at weight classes to decide which would best fit that wrestler, and who is returning many times helps them make that decision.

With that said I hope the best for you Choate, and I hope whatever is keeping you from wrestling this year does not affect what is most important, your education and future career. 

stephen norbury is going 125 again he's a weight cutting machine and is in the 30's already and matt neal when he gets off his probation will be able to wrestle he supposeably punched a police officer and fled the scene of the crime he's still got quite a few community service hours left to do and then he'll be at practice

stephen norbury is going 125 again he's a weight cutting machine and is in the 30's already and matt neal when he gets off his probation will be able to wrestle he supposeably punched a police officer and fled the scene of the crime he's still got quite a few community service hours left to do and then he'll be at practice

Well, atleast you didn't spread his business around the internet. lol

But it's final, i'll be wrestling 152. 100% sure.

this is shawn johnson and i will be wrestling 125 for valley this year

Preston shoopman will be wrestling 160 this year he cant make 152

Tre Such will be ranked by the end of the year

Duncan Caddell of Whitley Co. is going to wrestle in the 130lb. weight class.  I'm his brother, so this information is accurate.  I think that he will do good in 130.  He has been hiting the weights and he is a beast. He will definatilly be someone to watch throughtout the season. He's definatilly a top contender. :-D :-D :-D

Duncan Caddell of Whitley Co. is going to wrestle in the 130lb. weight class.  I'm his brother, so this information is accurate.  I think that he will do good in 130.  He has been hiting the weights and he is a beast. He will definatilly be someone to watch throughtout the season. He's definatilly a top contender. :-D :-D :-D

coming from his brother

Duncan Caddell of Whitley Co. is going to wrestle in the 130lb. weight class.  I'm his brother, so this information is accurate.  I think that he will do good in 130.  He has been hiting the weights and he is a beast. He will definatilly be someone to watch throughtout the season. He's definatilly a top contender. :-D :-D :-D

You do realize that just hitting the weights will not improve his chances of being a state chapion don't you?

It may actually be the least affective thing you can do.  Technique, experience(through summer wrestling) and conditioning trumps this almost every time. 

I would say to watch Tre Such from Fort Campbell at 135/140

He was Zack Bontrager's partner last year and saw vast improvment. Near the end of the year he had very good technique.

His conditioning and atheleticism is incredible. He competed at Boxing and Judo Internationals this summer. Placing 3rd in Boxing and Top 10 in Judo.

I know Boxing is far from wrestling but it shows how great of an athelete he is.

brandon wren keeps telling me he is going 135

You do realize that just hitting the weights will not improve his chances of being a state chapion don't you?

It may actually be the least affective thing you can do.  Technique, experience(through summer wrestling) and conditioning trumps this almost every time. 

If you had ever watched him wrestle before, you would know that his experience and technique is solid.  His conditioning isn't perfect, but he's training hard and I'd say he is conditioned as well as any other wrestler is right now.  Once he gets into his peek condition, he will be hard to handle. 

coming from his brother

I don't want to be a jerk, so I"m not going to say anything mean.  You may think that I"m wrong, but I guess we will just have to watch him and see.  I CAN'T WAIT TO PROVE YOU WRONG :evil: :evil: :evil:

I don't want to be a jerk, so I"m not going to say anything mean.  You may think that I"m wrong, but I guess we will just have to watch him and see.  I CAN'T WAIT TO PROVE YOU WRONG :evil: :evil: :evil:

so you're saying that he's gonna go from not being ranked at all at 125 or 130, to being a top contender?

You do realize that just hitting the weights will not improve his chances of being a state chapion don't you?

It may actually be the least affective thing you can do.  Technique, experience(through summer wrestling) and conditioning trumps this almost every time. 

to be a state champ you don't need strength you need technique and heart shane parks proved that last year he wasn't all that strong but he was smarter than anyone else he wrestled

To be the best you need the whole package - mental (conditioning and technique), Endurance, & Strength.  Obviously Wrestling is 90% mental, but having the other two is quite necessary when looking toward something higher than a state championship (Nationals, College, Worlds, Olympics).  I'm sure you do not see a glitch in any of the three when looking at Dan Gable and Cael Sanderson.

austin conner is not wrestling this season coach said he dosent want him back

No way Davis wins over Shotwell. Just my opinion.

No way Davis wins over Shotwell. Just my opinion.

There's a chance Davis will be 140, with Rupp going 145

austin conner is not wrestling this season coach said he dosent want him back

what did he do for his coach not to want him back, he was their best wrestler

A lot of people will have problems with Davis' and his takedowns and stamina.  He has an engine that never stops.  Unless Shotwells conditioning has gotten better, it has the potential not to be close.  He won the state finals smiling and full of energy.

To be the best you need the whole package - mental (conditioning and technique), Endurance, & Strength.  Obviously Wrestling is 90% mental, but having the other two is quite necessary when looking toward something higher than a state championship (Nationals, College, Worlds, Olympics).  I'm sure you do not see a glitch in any of the three when looking at Dan Gable and Cael Sanderson.

And John Smith

A lot of people will have problems with Davis' and his takedowns and stamina.  He has an engine that never stops.  Unless Shotwells conditioning has gotten better, it has the potential not to be close.  He won the state finals smiling and full of energy.

This may be true but he was not smilling and full of energy in his match against Brown.  And I do believe Shotwell is a little better than Brown. And now that Brown has seen and experienced Davis' ability.  He and his coaching staff (probably one of the top 5 greatest ever in KY), will come up with a game plan to defeat him.

I know it may not be easy but all you have to do is slow Davis down.  Tie him up and make his speed ineffective.  I believe Shotwell has the ability to do this if needed.  As for conditioning I'm not sure why you believe that he is not in shape.  I have not seen him winded in any of his matches. 

I am not the biggest Justin Davis fan, but I do believe he could beat Shotwell.  Davis seems like he gets better every match.  I think this will be his 3rd year of wrestling this year. Is it fair to think that maybe we havn't even seen how good Davis is going to be yet?  It is going to be interesting to see these two match up.  I hope the match does happen.  Anyone know what the outcomes usually are when Shotwell and Brown go at it in practice?

I am speaking of the Shotwell/ Thomas semis match at state.  Shotwell was out of energy.  I will take blame for the outcome becuase I think it should have been Thomas and Peace in the finals again.  Looking back, we could have picked different putting it in overtime or taking the match.  I take may hat off to Shotwell because he did what was needed to pull it out but it was barely.  Looking at Davis and Thomas, I have not seen too many to pick it up as fast as they have with no prior experience or exposure.

I heard larue county has a great heavy weight coming out

well cchs is back in ready

ranger,

Do you think that you will change the rankings much after you see the fat tests?

By the time regions rolls around, I'm pretty sure i'll be in the mix for a top spot at 152.

ranger,

Do you think that you will change the rankings much after you see the fat tests?

Yeah, but it will take a little while to check them out.  A lot of teams wait to get the test until the last minute.  I should have a good read on them by early December.

well cchs is back in ready

which one christian, caldwell

so you're saying that he's gonna go from not being ranked at all at 125 or 130, to being a top contender?

You should know by now that rankings don't mean anything and that they aren't a very reliable source. He can't make 125, but he can make 130 or 135. yeah, I think that he could be a top contender in 130, or well, in any weight class.

christian county

christian county

what is up with your posts...they make no sense all you are doing is just saying christian county or stating names...give us some details about christian county

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