What will this year's finals look like?

Here is my picks:

103: Sullivan dec. Parks 4-0

112: Lewis pin Zarth

119: Voth dec Wood 5-3

125: Bryant dec. Scott 8-4

130: Peace dec. Parker 4-3

135: Murton pin Patrick

140: Thueneman dec. Mines 4-1

145: Courtney dec. Cooper 1-0

152: Wolsiefer dec. Cooper 5-3

160: Fyffe dec. Hildreth 8-4

171: Starks dec. Doyle 5-1

189: Starks dec. Wenninger 8-2

215: Scherer dec. Byrd 12-10

275: Hardin dec. Clark 8-5

103-Sullivan vrs. Voth

112-Lewis vrs. Puckett

119-Voth vrs. Wood

125-Scott vrs. Warner

130-Parker vrs. Peace

135-Murton vrs. Ashbrook

140-Thuenaman vrs. Sanders

145-Courtney vrs. Banks

152-Cooper vrs. Wolsifier

160-Fyffe vrs. Hildreth

171-Starks vrs. Doyle

189-Starks vrs. Winters

215-Scherer vrs. Byrd

275-Clark vrs. Goodwrench

125: Scott dec. Warner 4-1

130: Parker dec. Peace 4-3 or OT

140: Thunman dec Banks 6-1

145: Aylor dec. Courtney 5-3 or Aylor OT Cooper (depending on the draw)

Bryant won't beat Scott..

I have nothing agenst goodrich he is a great wrestler but I think that jason hardin and mike clark will be in the finals at HWT

Why don't we just say who we think the two best wrestlers at each class are ? After all, the state tourney isn't seeded.

Wosiefer won't beat Cooper. Casson didn't get smoked against Wolsiefer, Brownfield beat Casson, and Cooper blew out Brownfield (pin). Wolsiefer also beat Brian Wilson that night, so it wasn't that he wrestled bad. Unless he's a control wrestler, but i'm hearing most of his wins were by pin fall. Which is kind of contrary to the notion of a guy being a control wrestler winning by a few all the time.

Hildreth will have to do a lot better to make the finals. He got smoked by a guy from Tennessee, and then Walls turned around and smoked the Tennesse guy at that tourney.

Assuming the seeding and draws work out- 1st line is finals, 2nd line is 3rd/4th

103- Sullivan over Spencer

Parks over Zeppa

112- Zarth over Luna

Lewis over Puckett

119- Muerner over Wood

Smith over Voth

125- Scott over Warner

Baines over Veach

130- Parker over Peace

Butler over Bowlds

135- Murton over anyone (Howard)

Ashbrook over Griggs

140- Thuneman over Powers

Mines over Kiper

145- Courtney over Aylor

Cooper over Ervin

152- Wolsiefer over Cooper

Sanders over Wheeler

160- Hildreth over Fyffe

King over Walls

171- Rupp over Starks

Jones over Reid

189- Starks over Ashworth

Winninger over Chany

215- Sherer over anyone (byrd)

Stone over Dow

275- Hardin over Young

Goodrich over Clark

MOW- Zarth (trust me)

Teams:

1 Woodford County (no one will be close)

2 Ryle

3 Larue

4 trinity

5 South Oldham

103- Parks

112- Lewis

119- Murner

125- Scott (would have been Parks)

130- Butler

135- Murton

140- Thueneman

145- Courtney

152- Wolsiefer

160- Fyffe

171- Starks

189- Starks

215- Byrd

275- Goodrich

9 champs for Woodford. Mark it, it WILL happen!

Teams

1. Woodford

2. South Oldham

3. Ryle

I think you all are underestimating Oldham County. Not the high school, but the county as a whole. Look at the strong wrestlers there that have a shot at state.

103- Zeppa

112- Zeppa, Vaughn

119- Muerner, Warner

125- Scott, Warner

130- Theotraous, Kusnir, Morlatt

171- Houchens

189- Wenninger

215- Scherer ( done and done)

275- Young

That's 9 weightclasses that could come out of the county. South Oldham is a powerhouse, Oldham County is a top rate team, and North Oldham is an excellant young program. Living in Oldham I have seen these guys vs. some of the top in the state. Look at the rankings, decisions, etc. and I think you will find that I am correct. Take for example 189. Wenninger is an excellant technical wrestler, and if he's at tip top shape, he'll beat Starks. Warner at 125 is one of the smartest wrestlers in the state. Scott at 125 walked through state last year. Scherer is a monster, 2x champ, beat the tennesee champ 2x now. He is unstoppable, and will handle Byrd in short order. Houchens at 171 is one of the better young wrestlers in the state. At 130 all three of them are solid wrestlers, and excellant atheletes. The zeppa brothers at 3 and 12 are veteran grapplers. Young at 275 is not only has strength but skills in folk and free style. I have watched these guys for years now in boht wrestling and football, Oldham County has excellant atheletes, coaches, and work ethics among the kids. Do not be surprised when 9 of the 14 weightclasses have champs from Oldham County. Teamwise, I believe that South will upset Woodford.

Why would you bet against a Cooper as a senior? Craig 152 state champ, Brad 3X state champ, Kyle 145 state champ, Neal 152 state champ, Austin....

I think being a Cooper, a senior, and a state champ run hand in hand.

yea having a non champion cooper in his senior year is a sure thing for a title.

olympic wish all those woodford guys as champs would be great but thats completely unrealistic.

byrd wont win this year so we ll wait until this time next year to put him down as a champion.

Butler is good but state champ.

I think courtney will get beat by cooper. I have nothing against the guy but i just dont see this being his year and trust me i would love to see another 4 timer.

parks winning at 103? same thing as the other woodford boys previously mentioned with sullivan and carr at 103 this is not his year.

The best pic for woodford to win besides lewis at 112 and the starks brothers would have to goodrich this is his year. Mike clark isnt gunna know what hit him and jason hardin and the rest of his followers in southern jeff county are gunna be shocked cause I see him pulling the upset over "big" mike clark

Trinity over South Oldam

Why would you bet against a Cooper as a senior? Craig 152 state champ' date=' Brad 3X state champ, Kyle 145 state champ, Neal 152 state champ, Austin....

I think being a Cooper, a senior, and a state champ run hand in hand.[/quote']

That puts more and more pressure on every younger Cooper, but your right, there's no stoping them.

Olympic wish, you are a fool. You've watched too many "Da bears" skits on Saturday night live. Thats a satire, not a recommendation on how to make your picks.

By the way, Lewis escaped with a win over Luna. He may end up setting the runner up record at state after all.

I think you have some interesting picks. But I think Larue County can come out on top overall.

Assuming the seeding and draws work out- 1st line is finals' date=' 2nd line is 3rd/4th

103- Sullivan over Spencer

Parks over Zeppa

112- Zarth over Luna

Lewis over Puckett

119- Muerner over Wood

Smith over Voth

125- Scott over Warner

Baines over Veach

130- Parker over Peace

Butler over Bowlds

135- Murton over anyone (Howard)

Ashbrook over Griggs

140- Thuneman over Powers

Mines over Kiper

145- Courtney over Aylor

Cooper over Ervin

152- Wolsiefer over Cooper

Sanders over Wheeler

160- Hildreth over Fyffe

King over Walls

171- Rupp over Starks

Jones over Reid

189- Starks over Ashworth

Winninger over Chany

215- Sherer over anyone (byrd)

Stone over Dow

275- Hardin over Young

Goodrich over Clark

MOW- Zarth (trust me)

Teams:

1 Woodford County (no one will be close)

2 Ryle

3 Larue

4 trinity

5 South Oldham[/quote']

By the way' date=' Lewis escaped with a win over Luna. He may end up setting the runner up record at state after all.[/quote']

I think that would be held by Dion Washington. Dion was runner up to Danny Davis (Ft. Kn) 91 and Frank Wolnitzek (Holmes) 92-93.

So it's being said Cooper will win it because it runs in his bloodline?! Thats cute if thats your suggestion. Maybe if he's working his butt off, that could be a good reason why he wins state, but because of his last name? I'm not saying Wolsiefer will smoke cooper by any means, but he's an animal, and he works EXTREMEMLY hard everyday. I've been around a tid bit and can see when a kid has the tools to win state. Wolsiefer has them just as well as Cooper does. I actually wrestled cooper when he was younger and do realize he's a solid fundamental wrestler, but he's not unbeatable. And it would have been to Coopers advantage to have not dodged 152 at the dragon and wrestled Wolsiefer considering he has dramaticly altered his technique from the previous season, But o well, it will all unfold at state. :wink:

woodford didnt even have a chance against LaRue county. they should have just forfeited at the beginning to save the embaresment.

woodford didnt even have a chance against LaRue county. they should have just forfeited at the beginning to save the embaresment.

Since when was 1 point a domination?

I hope you're goofing around.

So it's being said Cooper will win it because it runs in his bloodline?! Thats cute if thats your suggestion. Maybe if he's working his butt off' date=' that could be a good reason why he wins state, but because of his last name? I'm not saying Wolsiefer will smoke cooper by any means, but he's an animal, and he works EXTREMEMLY hard everyday. I've been around a tid bit and can see when a kid has the tools to win state. Wolsiefer has them just as well as Cooper does. I actually wrestled cooper when he was younger and do realize he's a solid fundamental wrestler, but he's not unbeatable. And it would have been to Coopers advantage to have not dodged 152 at the dragon and wrestled Wolsiefer considering he has dramaticly altered his technique from the previous season, But o well, it will all unfold at state. :wink:[/quote']

You're assuming he dodged. Word has it, he's having a heck of a time making 152. He wrestled 160 in a duel with Campbell Co, and i'm almost certain Cooper wouldn't have dodged Brownfield in that duel at 152 after pinning him the first time. Ever think there could be a reason he went 160 ... like weight problems ? :wink:

Forfeit??? Are you crazy... and to save the embarassment... All i have to say is that Larue Co. squeked by with a win. If i was Canter i wouldnt be satisfied. Everyone knows LArue got lucky. You could have LArue and Woodford Co. duel 100 times and i think it would be 50/50 but in tournament format i see no way that Larue will win.

I wouldn't say lucky ... how do you figure especially since you said they'd split 50 / 50 ? They got a pin at 140 that doesn't usually happen, but last time the 171 didn't get pinned either. So that came out to a net gain for nobody.

Woodford will win in tournament format though.

Assuming the seeding and draws work out- 1st line is finals' date=' 2nd line is 3rd/4th

103- Sullivan over Spencer

Parks over Zeppa

112- Zarth over Luna

Lewis over Puckett

119- Muerner over Wood

Smith over Voth

125- Scott over Warner

Baines over Veach

130- Parker over Peace

Butler over Bowlds

135- Murton over anyone (Howard)

Ashbrook over Griggs

140- Thuneman over Powers

Mines over Kiper

145- Courtney over Aylor

Cooper over Ervin

152- Wolsiefer over Cooper

Sanders over Wheeler

160- Hildreth over Fyffe

King over Walls

171- Rupp over Starks

Jones over Reid

189- Starks over Ashworth

Winninger over Chany

215- Sherer over anyone (byrd)

Stone over Dow

275- Hardin over Young

Goodrich over Clark

MOW- Zarth (trust me)

Teams:

1 Woodford County (no one will be close)

2 Ryle

3 Larue

4 trinity

5 South Oldham[/quote']

first off 112 wont be zarth hes lost to luna twice and puckett and lewis both once 119 will either be wood or voth, voth if wood is unable to wrestle the rest look ok only other screw up may be at 160 i think fyffe has beaten hildreth this year

yes yesterday at state duals chad fyffe destroyed jacob hildreth 11-5! walls,Fyffe state final!

103

Travis Sullivan---(2nd could be any of these) Carr/Spencer/Parks/Voth

112

Coty Lewis----over---Joazuin Luna

119

Caleb Wood ----over----Daniel Murner

125

Derek Scott----over-----Ben Warner

130

Bryan Peace----over----Howard/Coleman

135

Jacob Murton---over---Ashbrook

140

Daniel Thuenerman—over---Mines/Golsby

145

Aylor over Banks/Cooper/Courtney/Wilson (in that order)

152

Cooper----over----Wolsiefer (no-one else close)

160

Walls----over----Fyffe (King/Hidreth will try and make a run)

171

Mark Jones---over Starks/Rupp/Zacur

189

Richard Starks ---over (no one close to him) Wenniger/Ashworth

215

Taylor Shearer -----over----Stone/Byrd

Hwt

Mike Clark -----over ----Jason Hardin/Hall

You're assuming he dodged. Word has it, he's having a heck of a time making 152.

I had heard earlier in the season that Cooper wasn't able to cut to 152 because of the body fat test...he got a 2nd opinion in order to be able to drop. Does this sound like someone dodging? Both Cooper & Wolsiefer are fantastic wrestlers....i doubt either would dodge the other.

Due to matches at state duals I have decided to renew my predictions.

1st and 2nd

103: Sullivan dec. Parks 4-0

112: Lewis dec Luna 8-7

119: Voth dec Wood 5-3

125: Bryant dec. Scott 8-4

130: Parker dec. Jackson 20-18 (highest scoring finals match ever)

135: Murton pin Patrick

140: Thueneman dec. Mines 4-1

145: Courtney dec. Cooper 1-0

152: Wolsiefer dec. Cooper 5-3

160: Fyffe dec. Hildreth 8-4

171: Starks dec. Doyle 5-1

189: Starks dec. Wenninger 8-2

215: Scherer dec. Byrd 12-10

275: Hardin dec. Clark 8-5

3rd and 4th

103: Spencer dec. Carr 4-3

112: Zarth dec. Vinsant 5-2

119: Murner dec. Smith 6-1

125: Warner dec. Baines 8-1

130: Peace dec. Howard 7-0

135: Nick Griggs dec. Ashbrooke 2-0

140: Sanders dec. Coomer 5-4

145: Banks dec. Aylor 4-2

152: Sanders dec. Wheeler 1-0

160: Walls dec. King 11-10

171: Rupp dec. Jones 8-6

189: Watson m. dec. Chaney 11-3

215: Stone dec. Martinko 7-2

275: Goodrich dec. Craig 4-3

Monkeyroll:

I don't think your giving any of the Nky boys any respect.

A few you overlooked.

Ben Rust (CC) 130 lost to Coleman 4-2

John Golsby (Hol) 140 defeated Coomer/ split with Sanders

Brian Wilson (CC) 145 Defeated Aylor lost to Courney by a couple

Reed (Ry) 171 (outside chance)

Ashworth (Ry) 189 Can hang with Watson or Chaney

One to watch out for Kyle Griffith (CC) 135 just returned from injury This month.

woodford didnt even have a chance against LaRue county. they should have just forfeited at the beginning to save the embaresment.

Right. That's why LaRue's section got really quiet when they had to wrestle the big boys in Woodford's lineup.

Why don't we talk about how Larue took a 31-3 lead, leaving Woodford in position to need FOUR pins and two victories to win, and escaped 31-30 only because the 103-pounder avoided getting pinned.

You can talk all the smack you want, and enjoy the state dual victory, but when state comes around, I bet you won't be crowing nearly as loud.

Woodford will win the state team championship, no matter what happened this past weekend. Don't get too excited about what happened on Saturday -- it's like watching Louisville basketball fans get excited about their program in December before they fall apart in the winter (though the fall-apart happened much earlier now that they're actually playing in a real basketball conference).

Woodford will win the state team championship' date=' no matter what happened this past weekend. Don't get too excited about what happened on Saturday -- it's like watching Louisville basketball fans get excited about their program in December before they fall apart in the winter (though the fall-apart happened much earlier now that they're actually playing in a real basketball conference).[/quote']

Ouch; went for the juggular on that one. Bashing Larue wrestling to Bashing UofL. Must be a Lexington Woodford fan.

wow a bit of sour grapes here. :twisted:

Not really sour grapes, per se -- only when dealing with a response like his. One like yours, I can handle -- bet you could actually have a nice, adult conversation with you, as opposed to the guy who said Woodford should have "forfeited."

I give LaRue credit, because it's clear they are one of the best teams in the state. It might be a bit of sour grapes for me to say that the main reason they won duals was due to the pins they picked up on Woodford's weakest wrestlers, but it is a TEAM sport and being strong in one area but weak in another will only get you so far, and that's what you saw on Saturday.

Even with that, Larue busted their butts and did what they had to do. The biggest thing for them, in my opinion, was Banks' victory over Harrison Courtney. While it seemed to me (a bit of an untrained eye) that Banks got up early and kind of rode it out from there, you've got to give the kid credit for the victory. If he doesn't win there, Woodford ends up winning the finals with Parks' victory in the 103-pound match.

So, to wrap: props to Larue for their victory, and it should be a battle at state. I only go into "bash" mode when someone like the first guy I responded to comes in saying the things that he did.

Yes it's all about fun. That's why we come and talk. It'd fun to talk about your team or individual.

Talk up your team as much as you want. I think this is a great thing, as long as it is not at the expense of another.

It's one of the great things about wrestling. We battle it out on the mat, and when its all said and done we are one big family.

I hope that person's comment was just silly b/c it was a battle that came down to the very last match. I knew it would be a battle and it will be at state also. It all depends on the draws. Both Larue and Woodford aren't in very strong region's so both teams should get a lot of points early.

grappler-of-old i have to put parker in the finals with peace or howard all three are really tough!

i think that everybody has ruled trinity's mike clark out to early. he is a proven winner and no one has given him any respect. yes hardin is a good wrestler and yes he is undefeated, but so is clark. and if i had to pick between hardin and clark i would pic clark because he has been to the finals and has proven himself against all odds. last year he beat the unbeatable Lageman and he has only gotten better. and don't forget that he has already beaten goodwrench at king of the bluegrass.

Goodrich will bet Clark at state if they meet. Goodrich is a much better technical wrestler, and won't stall out like Clark did last year.

Stall out?

What do you expect, they're heavyweights!

I believe Woodford is in a pretty tough region. Not as good as Region 6, but I would say the second best in the state.

I believe Woodford is in a pretty tough region. Not as good as Region 6' date=' but I would say the second best in the state.[/quote']

This year those regions might be evenly matched ... and i'm the region 6 junkie. 8) Its just Ryle and Campbell Co are down this year. But there are plenty of quality wrestlers spread across different teams, and then there are a lot of holes too.