my Top 5 top wrestlers this season are;

1.Jacob Murton (LC) 135

2.Harrison Courtney (WC) 145

3.Derek Scott (S.OLD.) 125

4.Pat Banks (LaRue) 145

5.Shane Parks (WC) 103

i mean the best wrestlers in the top position...with great tilts, chicken wings,leg riding, solid basics, funky stuff, etc.

Wolsiefer and his head lever...can stick almost anyboby with it.

Head lever?

I think some call this the arm bar.

Where they grab the wrist, put their head in bend of elbow. When the arm raises they sink in a half.

Unless it's something different.

Jason Hardin hwt

Richard Starks 189

Jacob Murton 135

I think some call this the arm bar.

Where they grab the wrist' date=' put their head in bend of elbow. When the arm raises they sink in a half.

Unless it's something different.[/quote']

You're right, that's what it is. That's what we called it in my day...

1. Richard Starks WC

2. Jacob Murton LC

3. Taylor Scherer SO

4. Harrison Courtney WC

5. Shane Parks WC

6. City Lewis WC

7. Matt Byrd WC

8. Will Starks WC

9. Chad Fyffe WC

10. Kyle Goodrich WC

this is how i see it and to most people they would choose the same

1.murton

2.R.starks

3.scott

4.clark

5.sullivan

Chief i doubt everyone puts Clark on that list! He is not in the same league as scherer, murton, starks, scott, or sullivan.

1. Scherer

2. Murton

3. Starks

4. Sullivan

5. Scott

1. by a W i d e Margin---> Murton

Not a single kid in this state at 135, 130, 140 can touch him. Sorry, but if you debate that, you haven't seen him.

2. Starks (West Point wrestling!)

3. Scherer (2 timer, soon to be 3 timer, and crushed TN two yrs now)

4. Banks (did you see state duals>?)

5. Sulivann (unstoppable at his weight)

i agree with murton #1 and starks #2 but as for the other 3... courtney beat banks once this yr already,byrd has almost beaten shearer everytime n the past 2 yrs(and might just toss him in the state finals) and for sullivan being unstopable?? if im not mistaken he beat jon voth 8-4 and i do recall shane parks beating jon voth one week earlier 10-6 at WCI. just my opinion...looks like state will b very interesting this yr in many weight classes!!!

almost and lose are just about the same thing.

Sullivan beat john voth 6 to 2

I think jrp8825 was talking about being the best wrestler in the top postition.

1. Murton

2. Courtney

3. Scott

4. S. Parks

5. Don't know

As far as the top five wrestlers all around I would say.

1. Murton

2. Starks

3. Scherer

4. Scott

5. Courtney

The level of the wrestlers drop off after Murton. It takes another considerable drop after Scott. I would have Courtney higher but he is still immature. He still loses his head in matches and doesn't have as much experience as others do.

i agree with murton #1 and starks #2 but as for the other 3... courtney beat banks once this yr already' date='byrd has almost beaten shearer everytime n the past 2 yrs(and might just toss him in the state finals) and for sullivan being unstopable?? if im not mistaken he beat jon voth 8-4 and i do recall shane parks beating jon voth one week earlier 10-6 at WCI. just my opinion...looks like state will b very interesting this yr in many weight classes!!![/quote']

WOW if we went by who beat who by this much then the rankings and all classes would be messed up. Sullivan is the best 103 out there just bc shane beat voth by more than sullivan doesnt by any means make shane a better wrestler

I would say Shane is a better wrestler either way. Sullivan may win the match between them because of his strength, but technically Shane is the superior.

the better wrestler is whoever wins the match my friend

i think Sullivan would would beat parks technique wise

beat shane parks in technique? Shane is full of moves. Sullivan is just strong and can throw

If i remeber correctly Sullivan pinned Parks from the top postion last year at state

He probably slapped a cradle on to pin him. Also I see a huge difference between Shane Parks this year and last year, there is no comparison. He is the most improved wrestler on the Woodford team this year. I agree that the better wrestler is the one that wins the match. I was saying that Shane is technically superior.

You guys haven't seen Sullivan wrestle very much. I've seen him wrestle probly a hundred matches. He is one of the top 5 technical wrestlers in the state. He only throws because it is that easy for him to beat 103's. We are talking about a Junoir Olympic Champion, and probly one of the top 10 103's in the nation, and I have seen most of them. Parks may even beat Sullivan, but it is because he is as strong as Sullivan, not more technical. Good luck to both! Would make a great finals match.

I think jrp8825 was talking about being the best wrestler in the top postition.

1. Murton

2. Courtney

3. Scott

4. S. Parks

5. Don't know

As far as the top five wrestlers all around I would say.

1. Murton

2. Starks

3. Scherer

4. Scott

5. Courtney

The level of the wrestlers drop off after Murton. It takes another considerable drop after Scott. I would have Courtney higher but he is still immature. He still loses his head in matches and doesn't have as much experience as others do.

i wouldnt say there is a huge drop off after murton...against out of state competition' date=' id like to see how murton would do against the indiana 135 state champ? i have no clue but it would probably be a match within 2 points or so kind of like scherer had with the 215 state champ from indiana...murton is still probably better based on his credentials (6th at beast of the east) but i dont know any results he has this year against out of state competition besides the beast of the east? i would have liked to see teams like south and woodford compete there to find out if any of their wrestlers would place at that high of a wrestling caliber

[b']Best Technique

1. Jacob Murton

2. Taylor Scherer

3. Richard Starks

4. Derek Scott

5. Harrison Courtney

others with honorable mention are Brian Peace, Ben Warner, Tyler Voth and Cody Walls, and ???? round out my Top 10...but that list differs in terms of best wrestler

Best Wrestler

1. Jacob Murton (technique + strength)

2. Richard Starks (technique + strength)

3. Taylor Scherer (technique + strength)

4. Derek Scott (technique + strength)

5. Travis Sullivan (strength + knows the moves he does well)

OK, as far as the best wrestlers in the state go, Murton is #1. No question. He is head and shoulders better than the next closest wrestler. Starks and Sherer are both very good, but take them to Ohio or any national tourney and they might not fair well. If I am not mistaken, Sherer competed at Jr. Nationals and went 2 and out. Murton was 2 points away from a finals appearance at the Beast of the East. He led going into the 3rd period against arguably the best 135 in the country (Zach Kemmerer, PA), who happened to win the Ironman and the Beast. Ruschell placed lower at the Beast than Murton, and didnt wrestle the same competition.

As for 103, Parks is very impressive. Sullivan is also very impressive. Although Sullivan in approaching a winning streak of 120 matches, I still think people under estimate him. Its not just his strength that makes him good. He has great skill, and that happens to be in upperbody moves. He is also one of the most physical and attacking wrestlers I have ever seen. Anyone see the state finals last season? Sullivan also knows how to win, he has done it for a long time now. Parks can and will give him a run for his money. It will be a great match, and honestly, I think either one could win it. I would bet Sullivan though.

id like to see how murton would do against the indiana 135 state champ? i have no clue but it would probably be a match within 2 points or so kind of like scherer had with the 215 state champ from indiana..

I think Murton could take Indiana's 135 class this year, now last year would definitely have been a tougher match against Escobedo. Murton has proven he is very good, his performance at nationals last summer and at the Beast this season establishes him as the best in KY this season, no one from KY has accomplished so much this season.

1. Richard Starks WC

Harrison Courtney WC

Shane Parks WC

Coty Lewis WC

Matt Byrd WC

Will Starks WC

Chad Fyffe WC

Kyle Goodrich WC

Woodford86 Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:45 am Post subject:

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1. Richard Starks WC

Harrison Courtney WC

Shane Parks WC

Coty Lewis WC

Matt Byrd WC

Will Starks WC

Chad Fyffe WC

Kyle Goodrich WC

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously after posts like that? I agree those are some good wrestlers, but better than Murton, Scherer, Austin Cooper, to name a few? Give me a break.

kyle goodrich may be good but he is not the best

1. Richard Starks WC

Harrison Courtney WC

Shane Parks WC

Coty Lewis WC

Matt Byrd WC

Will Starks WC

Chad Fyffe WC

Kyle Goodrich WC

Woodford I sure hope you are getting a big laugh out of all of this. You seem to be posting just to get under everyones skin.

This is the type of stuff that we need monitored on this site. It has gotten out of hand the last week or two. It's only going to get worse as the regiona and state tourney gets closer.

1. Murton He is the total package he has the technique, strength, quickness and stamina also is as hardnose as they come.

2. Richard Starks- he is by far the most conditioned wrestler in this state if he gets into the 3rd period with anybody there is no chance, he just gets stronger and stronger as the match goes on. He may not use many different moves but he uses what works for him and he will work the same moves over and over until the opponent will just want to quit.

3. Harrison Courtney- he is the best wrestler from the top i have ever seen, nobody in this state can get out when hes on top and he is ony a freshman, also he is in great shape and is improving on his already large cabinet of moves. If he stays healthy he will break the national record for most wins.

4. Taylor Scherer- What can i say he is an absolute beast, he is overwhelmingly stronger than his opponents but i do beleive he will have a chance of being beaten by Matt Byrd even though he has been wrestling with a bad arm this entire season.

5. Coty Lewis- I wrestled with him a lot last season and he wasnt in top shape. He would get to the third period and die. But now hes in much better condition. He is not going to be beaten in the state and he is hungry for an individual state championship after two consecutive runners up. He is by far the strongest 112 pounder in the state and he is the most technical of them as well. He is so dominating on his feet it is discusting.

I would Austin Cooper in there before i would put Courtney... he is just like the rest of the Cooper family they are all machines, Courtney is a very good wrestler but i would still put Austin in front, He was the only person in the state to even come close to Jarius Murton last yr.. thats saying something

Harrison Courtney will not bet Banks if they meet at the state tournament. Banks proved he could bet him at State Duals and the other time they met Harrison bet him because of a stalling call 1-0 I believe.

Coty Lewis will have a tough time if he meets Luna, which they did at State Duals, but he'll probably win again.

Best in top position: Derek Scott. Hands down. Quick, aggressive, technique oriented, he is an outstanding wrestler.

I think that Daniel Thueneman should get some credit... i think he is top 5... he lost to Derek Scott in the semifinals at 125 last year and got third place at state.. i dont think he has lost a single match at 140 this year... the only matches he has lost are matches where he bumped up a to 145 to wrestle cooper and aylor, prob 2 of the best at 145 and still was only lost by decision.. he has won some pretty big tournaments this year including south oldham, WCI, and king of the bluegrass, will be a regional champ and a state champ.. i'm not saying he is better than murton or anything but he's got to be top 5 if u dont believe me jus watch the finals match at 140 on February 18

Woodford I sure hope you are getting a big laugh out of all of this. You seem to be posting just to get under everyones skin.

This is the type of stuff that we need monitored on this site. It has gotten out of hand the last week or two. It's only going to get worse as the regiona and state tourney gets closer.

I got to agree with ya'. state & region's are comming up & you got to bite the bullet with a quote like that Woodford County