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State Duals?

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Who is the top two from each region that will be going to State Duals, and some predictions from you guys.

I only know in region 6 its Campbell county and simon kinton.

region 7 is woodford with the one seed and tates creek with a two seed.

Region 5 is 1. South Oldham, 2. Oldham County

region 3 Meade co. and southern

I only know in region 6 its Campbell county and simon kinton.

What happened to Ryle?

What happened to Ryle?

There is a long answer to this, and a short answer to this.  For the long answer goto the NKAC thread under the High School wrestling forum.

The short answer is that Ryle had a "split squad" on the weekend of their conference tournament.  Most of their varsity line up was at the Glenn Sample Classic tournament in Cincinnati.  Ryle came in third at the conference tournament.  Region 6 sends their top 2 placers at the conference tournament, therefor Campbell County and Simon Kenton will represent Region 6 at State Duals.

I believe Region #2 will come down as 1) Larue County

                                                  2) John Hardin

but, that's only a prediction.

Region 2: Larue Co. and Nelson Co.

I think that the Region 7 results would be different if they had done the tournament the way they had in the past few years.  Not all of the teams got to wrestle one another.  It wasn't a round robin.  It was divided into pools and they weren't evenly distributed.  That has been discussed on here previously.  It isn't a true representation of the teams from the 7th region.  Who ever decided to run the tournament this way needs to take a good long look at how it turned out and should think about going back to the round robin next year!

I think that the Region 7 results would be different if they had done the tournament the way they had in the past few years.  Not all of the teams got to wrestle one another.  It wasn't a round robin.  It was divided into pools and they weren't evenly distributed.  That has been discussed on here previously.  It isn't a true representation of the teams from the 7th region.  Who ever decided to run the tournament this way needs to take a good long look at how it turned out and should think about going back to the round robin next year!

Region 6 does pools.  How many teams are in region 7>  There are 10 in Region 6 I think.  Not feasible to do a round robin format.

I think that the Region 7 results would be different if they had done the tournament the way they had in the past few years.  Not all of the teams got to wrestle one another.  It wasn't a round robin.  It was divided into pools and they weren't evenly distributed.  That has been discussed on here previously.  It isn't a true representation of the teams from the 7th region.  Who ever decided to run the tournament this way needs to take a good long look at how it turned out and should think about going back to the round robin next year!

How would the results have differed, in your opinion?

I don't have anything aganst Tates Creek but I they wouldn't have come in second had it been a round robin.  They were in the easiest pool to come out of.  There just wasn't that much competition in their pool.  If I am correct they had Dunbar, Montgomery Co. Madison Co. and Bryan Station and Western Hills.  Dunbar was their only competition.  Madison Co. is a first year team and  BStation and W Hills don't have full teams.  The other pool had Woodford, Henry Clay, Lafayette, Harrison, Franklin, and Bourbon Co.  The Woodford Co. pool was stacked.  Just my opinion.

Well in my opinion, TC is more than deserving of going to state duals. You have to keep in mind that dunbar placed fourth. Also, Franklin County came in second out of the other pool, and 3rd overall. TC wrestled them in the semi-finals and defeated them fairly easily. They also came the closest to beating Woodford out of any other team there. I don't know how you could say they aren't the second best team put of the region?

*out of the region

who do you think would have defeated tates creek for the number two spot, if it wasnt franklin county, who as already pointed out came in a close third?

Not sure about region one but I believe the two best dual teams would be Union and Christian. I hope Christian sends their squad to state duals this year though.

I see your point, wildeyes. Those aren't exactly equal pools. But I still think TC would've been 2nd. They beat Franklin, who beat Henry Clay. Maybe Harrison Co. could've had a shot at them, but I still think Creek would win that one closely.

TC is the second best dual team in Region 7. Regardless of the uneven pools, Creek still had to beat the second best team out of the other pool to take 2nd. 

Who's going for region 1,2,8?

Who's going for region 1,2,8?

the teams goin from region 2 are larue and nelson

Name some wrestler's that will go undefeated at state duals by weight class

Region 8 will be Sheldon Clark and Johnson Central

So, who is the number 1 and whois the number two from Region 8 and does anyone know the results from the dual they had????  I have the feeling it was, shall we say, full of energy!!!   :-D

Region 8 will be Sheldon Clark and Johnson Central

Is this a perdiction or who's really going?

Johnson central 1 Sheldon Clark 2

Name some wrestler's that will go undefeated at state duals by weight class

103: Fayhe

112: Bradbury

119: Logsdon

125: Travis K. Woodford or Kasey Hedges

160: Harrison Courtney

171: is hitchings 71?

Dont really know the wrestlers past that

Johnson central 1 Sheldon Clark 2

This is really who is going.  Johnson Central beat Sheldon Clark in the region 8 duals finals by six points last saturday.

when is the draw?  Who's wrestling who?

103: Fayhe

112: Bradbury

119: Logsdon

125: Travis K. Woodford or Kasey Hedges

160: Harrison Courtney

171: is hitchings 71?

Dont really know the wrestlers past that

Logsdon won't get past Zarth

Logsdon won't get past Zarth

hc is not going to state duals

Logsdon won't get past Zarth

i bet you he gives zarth a run for his money and could possibly win so i could see it happening

hc is not going to state duals

Since they host it they normally wrestle the tournament too

i thought just the top tow go only

i thought just the top tow go only

There is usually one school out of the 16 that can't make it or chooses not to due to logistics.  HC always wrestles.

well i know wood will be their for sure and tc wont miss it for nothing

i thought just the top tow go only

Its Two.

Region 1's regional duals is this saturday at caldwell. The prediction should be pretty easy.

1. Union County

2. Christian County

i bet you he gives zarth a run for his money and could possibly win so i could see it happening

I think its pretty funny how you think mack lodgson (spelling?) has a chance at Zarth. Looks to me from the results from last time regardless of points, Zarth stuck him. I would just about bet you Zarth would stick him again.

There is usually one school out of the 16 that can't make it or chooses not to due to logistics.  HC always wrestles.

they actually didnt wrestle in it last year. either way, i dont see logsdon and zarth being a competitive match.

So far we have:

Region 1  Union Co. & Christian Co. (to be deciced this weekend)

Region 2  Larue Co. & Nelson Co.

Region 3  Meade Co. & Southern

Region 4  Trinity & St. X

Region 5  South Oldham & Oldham Co.

Region 6  Campbell Co. & Simon Kenton

Region 7  Woodford Co. & Tates Creek

Region 8  Johnson Central & Sheldon Clark

Thats all 16.  The only team I could see not going is Christian Co..  In that case, Henry Clay would wrestle.  But... I really don't see Christian Co. not going.

BTW, the 4 pools of 4 are drawn the morning of the duals.  The coaches decide (argue) on the top 4 seeds and eveyone else is randomly drawn in, however a team will be on the opposite side of the bracket as their regional counterpart.

My picks for top 4 seeds are:

1  Trinity

2  Campbell

3  Larue

4  Union/Woodford

Has anyone given Trinity a run for their money in a dual meet this year?

I think its pretty funny how you think mack lodgson (spelling?) has a chance at Zarth. Looks to me from the results from last time regardless of points, Zarth stuck him. I would just about bet you Zarth would stick him again.

im jus sayin mack isn't as bad as you say he is.

jus watch there next match it will b good

Union lost to Trinity by 3 when they were all wrestling up a weight.

So far we have:

Region 1  Union Co. & Christian Co. (to be deciced this weekend)

Region 2  Larue Co. & Nelson Co.

Region 3  Meade Co. & Southern

Region 4  Trinity & St. X

Region 5  South Oldham & Oldham Co.

Region 6  Campbell Co. & Simon Kenton

Region 7  Woodford Co. & Tates Creek

Region 8  Johnson Central & Sheldon Clark

Thats all 16.  The only team I could see not going is Christian Co..  In that case, Henry Clay would wrestle.  But... I really don't see Christian Co. not going.

BTW, the 4 pools of 4 are drawn the morning of the duals.  The coaches decide (argue) on the top 4 seeds and eveyone else is randomly drawn in, however a team will be on the opposite side of the bracket as their regional counterpart.

My picks for top 4 seeds are:

1  Trinity

2  Campbell

3  Larue

4  Union/Woodford

I see some major battling going on to get the #2 and #3 seeds.  Not sure how they're going to decide, but bet there is some serious debate.

How can there be any doubt who the top 3 are. The only question is who is #4.

1.)Trinity

2.)LaRue/Union

3.)LaRue/Union

#2 & #3 don't really matter because they will be on same side of pool.

4.)Toss up between Campbell & Woodford. But who wants to win that and go up against Trinity.

Reason for above seeding. Trinity beat Union(by 3) and are unanimously best team in State. LaRue beat Union in a tough dual(by 1). LaRue has only lost once in KY to Seneca(by 1). Union's only losses are to above listed teams.

I cannot make a case for Campbell because they only wrestle in NKY, and Woodford is Woodford.

I'll give you #1 Trinity and #2 Larue (for the win over Union, although the loss to Seneca hurts).  But I still say 3-5 is a dogfight.  But like you said, who wants #4 except to stay out of a pool with Trinity.  Has Woodford lost a dual this year?  Not sure if they've beat any top tier teams, but I haven't seen a lost posted.  Campbell has only lost to Ryle, who they beat at NKAC.  Union has wrestled some tough dual competition, but only in-state losses are to the top 2.  I don't know.  The good thing is with Bankemper and Walls involved I don't see it getting too ugly.  As long as Joe Jr doesn't take anyone down during the discussion it may not be too bad.  But I still say it takes a few minutes to resolve.

I'll give you #1 Trinity and #2 Larue (for the win over Union, although the loss to Seneca hurts).  But I still say 3-5 is a dogfight.  But like you said, who wants #4 except to stay out of a pool with Trinity.  Has Woodford lost a dual this year?  Not sure if they've beat any top tier teams, but I haven't seen a lost posted.  Campbell has only lost to Ryle, who they beat at NKAC.  Union has wrestled some tough dual competition, but only in-state losses are to the top 2.  I don't know.  The good thing is with Bankemper and Walls involved I don't see it getting too ugly.  As long as Joe Jr doesn't take anyone down during the discussion it may not be too bad.  But I still say it takes a few minutes to resolve.

Woodford is 15-0  Haven't faced any top teir teams

Woodford 52  Harrison 21

Woodford 47  Franklin 24

Woodford 74  Bourbon 0

Woodford 64  Lafayette 9

Woodford 45  Henry Clay 24

Woodford 58  Dunbar 15

Woodford 35  Tates Creek 27

Woodford 69  Fort Knox 9

Woodford 54  North oldham 18

Woodford 48  Wayne 25

Woodford over Eastern

Woodford over Madison

Woodford over Montgomery

Woodford over Anderson

Woodford over Eastern (again)

Union Co. has also lost to Tates Creek 36-33.

Union Co. has also lost to Tates Creek 36-33.

I forgot about that one.  Given that for Union (losses to Tates Creek, Larue, and Trinity) I think they drop down.  Campbell's only loss is to Ryle (who they also beat) and Woodford is unbeaten without a "big" victory.  Who gets the #3, Campbell or Woodford?

I forgot about that one.  Given that for Union (losses to Tates Creek, Larue, and Trinity) I think they drop down.  Campbell's only loss is to Ryle (who they also beat) and Woodford is unbeaten without a "big" victory.  Who gets the #3, Campbell or Woodford?

I would have to give the #3 seed to Woodford because they dont havent lost and the only good team the CC has been Ryle and they lost to them so its only fair to make the seeding...

1.Trinity

2.Larue

3.WC

4.CC

5.Union

I would have to give the #3 seed to Woodford because they havent lost and the only good team the CC has wrestled is Ryle and they lost to them so its only fair to make the seeding...

1.Trinity

2.Larue

3.WC

4.CC

5.Union

Region 1 reps will be Union and Ohio.

woodford beat tates creek

tates creek beat unin

not a dual but at tci TC placed ahead of campbell county 

woodfords toughest competition has been TC

no other top teams but have soundly defeated all teams that they were expected to 

I forgot about that one.  Given that for Union (losses to Tates Creek, Larue, and Trinity) I think they drop down.  Campbell's only loss is to Ryle (who they also beat) and Woodford is unbeaten without a "big" victory.  Who gets the #3, Campbell or Woodford?

They beat Ryle's jv team with two varsity wrestlers.

They beat Ryle's jv team with two varsity wrestlers.

To avoid confusion Ryle only had two varsity wrestlers that day.

I don't have anything aganst Tates Creek but I they wouldn't have come in second had it been a round robin.  They were in the easiest pool to come out of.  There just wasn't that much competition in their pool.  If I am correct they had Dunbar, Montgomery Co. Madison Co. and Bryan Station and Western Hills.  Dunbar was their only competition.  Madison Co. is a first year team and  BStation and W Hills don't have full teams.  The other pool had Woodford, Henry Clay, Lafayette, Harrison, Franklin, and Bourbon Co.  The Woodford Co. pool was stacked.  Just my opinion.

Yea i Completely agree with that one

not to take anything away from tates creek they a tuff team.

Yea i Completely agree with that one

not to take anything away from tates creek they a tuff team.

all the excuses in the world cant take away our second place spot, so how about people stop dwelling on the fact that we came in second, and start looking forward to the state tournament and the state duals.

Yea i Completely agree with that one

not to take anything away from tates creek they a tuff team.

Who would have beaten Tates Creek. You say you're not trying to take anything away from them, but that is exactly what you are doing. The only team that can beat Tates Creek in region 7 this year is Woodford Co. Please tell me who the other "team" is. I have seen every other Region 7 team wrestle this year and from 103-HWT. There is not another team. To rehash what has already been said, Franklin Co. finished SECOND meaning they are the second best team from the other pool and they got run over by Tates Creek 51-27.

Also if you want to assign blame for the way the pools played out blame Joe Carr, Russ Riegle and Andy Critchfield who all voted to only seed the top four teams. John Griggs, Tates Creek's head coach repeatedly voted to seed all teams in the region.

I'm waiting for a lucid response to this? People want to complain yet they bring it on themselves. Who would have beaten TC at the Region 7 duals? Both Henry Clay and Harrison Co. had far too many holes in their lineup to win. Tates Creek beat both the 3rd and 4th place finishers (PLD and Franklin Co.) There is no one else who could have beaten them. Also Woodford Co. barely won in their dual it could have easily been the other way around.

Yea i Completely agree with that one

not to take anything away from tates creek they a tuff team.

I'm sorry these comments are not based in fact. Tates Creek still would have come in 2nd. They are the second best team in Region 7.

As a Henry Clay fan it pain sme to say this but I must admit that Tates Creek is the second best in the region this year. After watching every 7th region team in action this year, I just don't see any other team beating them. I think if we would have had a full lineup of Walton, Bryant and Mims we could have given them a run for second, but it wasn't in the cards that day.

maybe not now with Zac Brown out for the season and 171 and 215 hurt

maybe not now with Zac Brown out for the season and 171 and 215 hurt

i will agree with this statement. tates creek when we had the region 7 duals was the 2nd best team there those two days. with our current lineup, i am not so sure of this statement, but anything and everything happens in a wrestling season. and as stated before, coaches voted to randomly draw the pools, it was brought on by the coaches, unfair or not.

i say that tates creek is a better dual team either way. but i think henry clay might be a better tournament team especially now with out zac brown.

yes zac brown did score our team a lot of tournament points. its a shame he has to be out for the season.

oh and i have just noticed everyone was talking about union losing. you must remember a lot of their dual loses were when many wrestlers were up many weight classes and even some still in football. i know whenever tates creek beat them luke was 140 or 145 caleb was 135 carr was 130 young was 125 and issac didnt wrestle (im sure there were some other line up effects in there too) just thought i would mention it. union is still a high caliber team that has a shot at doing very very well

the thing about union having their wrestlers up, is that all of them still won their matches except for young, so the result would have been the same even if carr had been 25 and beaten me, because they would have forfeited a weight.

Region 3 is Meade county and Southern.

Does anyone know who all is goin?  :wink:

yes but pins may differ when wrestling up and they still were missing issac and a few others

yes but pins may differ when wrestling up and they still were missing issac and a few others

well considereing that, it would have been a very close dual, going either way. and people still doubt tates creeks dualing ability. we would have hung with one of the best teams in the state, if not beaten them.

maybe you will draw Union and we will see.

maybe you will draw Union and we will see.

it will be different now because they will be with all of their wrestlers, and we'll be without ours. i would love to draw union county though, that way i can see how i fair against arron. i look forward to wrestling him.

i use to doubt tates creek but you guys talked the talk and walked the walk for what ever reason you all beat union no doubt i just wouldnt be shocked if the are in the finals

Lexington schools just aren,t deep enough, regional duals are 6 weeks before state duals and they either have guys out at region and dont qualify or qualify and have guys out at state duals.

yes i do agree that the region duals should prolly be moved a little closer to the state duals, but this year at the time of regional duals, tates creek was the second best dual team. i think we would have beaten woodford had we known they were going to forfeit 189, cause then we could have bumped up daniel griggs to wrestle semones, and if daniel had pinned semones, then we would have won by four points. assuming we still got the six points for 189.

the final list of team that will be at state duals please!!!

the final list of team that will be at state duals please!!!

Duh its not that hard, you go to the rankings and go to team duals at the end of the rankings. That is the list of the teams that will attend state duals.

the final list of team that will be at state duals please!!!

I smite thee for not using thy's resources

Henry Clay is going now. One of their guys just told me.

Does anyone know if Union County will be attending State Duals?

If so, could you let them know that they need to contact either Coach Feiser or Coach Canter as soon as possible.

Thanks.

Coach Walls has no power therefore he cant charge his cell phone. Lines are down. I havn't talked to him or my mom (his wife) in about 3 days but most of western kentucky's power is down. They still plan on attending.

Henry Clay is going now. One of their guys just told me.

how is henry clay going now?

southern pulled out (the reason i am unsure of) therefore the host team, which is henry clay takes their spot.

Union County will be attending State Duals.

STATE DUALS ARE CANCELED! Due to the weather...  :x

were did you hear this from?

were did you hear this from?

Its been posted all over the site...

no there not

Our coach Just received a call State duals is post-poned..i dont no what date they plan to reschedule! :x

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