Will they repeat in 2009?

Can Woodford, North Hardin, or a Louisville team challenge them?

Will they repeat in 2009?

Can Woodford, North Hardin, or a Louisville team challenge them?

It could be a region 6 team as well

Campbell county

Ryle

I say right now it is Trinitys to lose.  Fahy,Bradbury,Hitchings,and Whiting could all very well tech or pin there way through the state tourny.  That is a lot of points.  Throw in Ohlman, Messina, Gillespie, and Lewis all placing failry high and they should be at the top.  Anything can happen though.

I think Trinity will definitely take the state tournament this year.

I consider it a fairly close race between Trinity and Union with it still being Trinity's to lose

Trinity has likely champions with Fahy, Bradbury,  Hitchings, and Whiting

Union has Carr, C. Ervin, and I. Ervin

Now I think that if Dee Leavell can keep his head straight he can upset Bradbury for the title this year and then there is also Andy Lenz. If that is the scenario then it all sits on which team has better depth

yeah you are looking at just the champs, trinity has far more placers than union.

If you go by the Rankings then Union has 8 placers and Trinity has 7 placers in all. Then a lot will depend on what kind of draw you get.

the past two years union has won the state title due to the fact of state placers not champions...

Union had only 2 champions last year but had lots of high placers. That is the point i'm trying to make. Trinity has the core group of champions but the rest of the team has to make up for Unions balanced roster

Will they repeat in 2009?

Can Woodford, North Hardin, or a Louisville team challenge them?

North Hardin? :? :? :?

North Hardin? :? :? :?

I think he probably meant John Hardin; they did well at the WCI, finishing third behind Wofo and Seneca (they surprised me but they shouldn't have as they usually have a decent team).

I think that Union has a good chance because they do have some potential champs (C. Ervin, I. Ervin and A. Carr) and quite a few potential high placers (L. Ervin, K. Thomas, I. Thomas and N. Reburn).  However, Trinity, Ryle and others are also impressive.  That is why is it so much fun to watch because so many factors come in to play: illness, injury and mental readiness. 

Having state champs is a wonderful thing.  However, if you want to have state championship team you have got to get those points in the wrestlebacks.  Last year Ryle was winning the tournament on Saturday morning.  The morning was tough for Ryle and Union County kept right on going.  That is where the tournament was lost for Ryle.  The placers win the tourney for the team.

Usually 9 placers is that golden # that means a state title. Not always, but I know thats what we shot for when I was wrestling.  Champs are awesome, but placing guys #3-#6 is what gets you those team points.

Woodford will be within striking distance on Saturday morning. Not saying they'll win, but its a possibility.

Now I think that if Dee Leavell can keep his head straight he can upset Bradbury for the title this year and then there is also Andy Lenz. If that is the scenario then it all sits on which team has better depth

Bradbury's level is too high for Leavell to handle, the kid has talent on his feet but on the mat is a different story.  I think Leavell will be lucky to last 6 minutes.

I don't think it is all that unusal for the team champion not to have an individual champ, is it?

I don't think it is all that unusal for the team champion not to have an individual champ, is it?

I know it has happened before, but let's look at it the other way.  If Trinity's #1s come through, has a team ever had 4 or 5 champs and not won the title?  I'm guessing not.  In 2006 Woodford didn't get the magic 9, but 5 winners (plus 3 other placers) and no one was close to them.

How many did Woodford have in 2007 when Union beet them? 4 or 5 ?

How many did Woodford have in 2007 when Union beet them? 4 or 5 ?

No they only had 3 champs and 5 total placers.  Union still only beat them by 8 points.

First of all I wouldn't underestimate Leavell come state time. Bradbury maybe on another level this year but I'm sure you haven't see Leavell. I'm sure everyone thought that Dan Smith was on a different level than Leavell last year but he held his own and Smith

snuck out a 7-6 match I believe.

Second of all I would not not not put Whiting up there as a for sure state champ pinning or teching his way through. Now that is going overboard. Croney pinned him easily in the second period last year. I'm sorry but right now Whiting will have to prove himself as consistant WRESTLER. Fahy may have a challege in Paden so i see no tech or pin there. Hitchings I can see being very dominant through the state tourney. If Bradbury thinks the state tourney will be a cakewalk he's in for a rude awakening. I can see Olhman pulling out a state championship I believe he's on that level this year. Union County will be tough to beat though. Watch out for L. Ervin this year I'm sure he's hungry for a state title and doesn't want to go out his senior year as one of the only Ervins to never win one.

First of all I wouldn't underestimate Leavell come state time. Bradbury maybe on another level this year but I'm sure you haven't see Leavell. I'm sure everyone thought that Dan Smith was on a different level than Leavell last year but he held his own and Smith

snuck out a 7-6 match I believe.

Second of all I would not not not put Whiting up there as a for sure state champ pinning or teching his way through. Now that is going overboard. Croney pinned him easily in the second period last year. I'm sorry but right now Whiting will have to prove himself as consistant WRESTLER. Fahy may have a challege in Paden so i see no tech or pin there. Hitchings I can see being very dominant through the state tourney. If Bradbury thinks the state tourney will be a cakewalk he's in for a rude awakening. I can see Olhman pulling out a state championship I believe he's on that level this year. Union County will be tough to beat though. Watch out for L. Ervin this year I'm sure he's hungry for a state title and doesn't want to go out his senior year as one of the only Ervins to never win one.

Honestly, I think Fahy has the best of chance of winning out of the group. Although they all have a really good chance of winning it.

Honestly, I think Fahy has the best of chance of winning out of the group. Although they all have a really good chance of winning it.

I do too. Paden may be the only one who lasts 6 min. with him.

Honestly, I think Fahy has the best of chance of winning out of the group. Although they all have a really good chance of winning it.

I'm with you.  Here is how I would order them:  Fahy, Hitchings, Bradbury, Whiting, Ohlmann.  I only see one match for the first 3 not being at least a major (more likely techs or pins).  Whiting and Ohlmann could have a couple closer matches.

Bradbury's level is too high for Leavell to handle, the kid has talent on his feet but on the mat is a different story.  I think Leavell will be lucky to last 6 minutes.

That matchup sounds a lot like Elam vs. Bradbury last year. Elam proved last year that you don't have to be the best on the mat to win a Title. Leavell looks like he has about no % body fat this year as well. Hope they meet in the finals if they do wrestle.

That matchup sounds a lot like Elam vs. Bradbury last year. Elam proved last year that you don't have to be the best on the mat to win a Title. Leavell looks like he has about no % body fat this year as well. Hope they meet in the finals if they do wrestle.

On what team does Leavell wrestle?

Chistian County

Hope they meet in the finals if they do wrestle.

That matchup sounds a lot like Elam vs. Bradbury last year. Elam proved last year that you don't have to be the best on the mat to win a Title. Leavell looks like he has about no % body fat this year as well. Hope they meet in the finals if they do wrestle.

Actually Dee didn't have to cut any weight he weighed around 116 at most before the season started.

I do too. Paden may be the only one who lasts 6 min. with him.

wow u were dead on with this prediction

I know it has happened before, but let's look at it the other way.  If Trinity's #1s come through, has a team ever had 4 or 5 champs and not won the title?  I'm guessing not.  In 2006 Woodford didn't get the magic 9, but 5 winners (plus 3 other placers) and no one was close to them.

How ironic is it that you ask the question has any team every had 4 or 5 state champs and not won the team title and then Union has 4 this year and doesn't win it.

How ironic is it that you ask the question has any team every had 4 or 5 state champs and not won the team title and then Union has 4 this year and doesn't win it.

You have to admit Union stepped there game up with winning 5 out of 6 in the semis and 4 out of 5 in the finals. I love these guy's heart. Gonna miss watching Isaac, Luke, and Aaron wrestle.

You have to admit Union stepped there game up with winning 5 out of 6 in the semis and 4 out of 5 in the finals. I love these guy's heart. Gonna miss watching Isaac, Luke, and Aaron wrestle.

Yes, I was very impressed with Union.  They stepped it up and gave it all they had to defend their title.  Throw Levi Griggs in their to score points and potentially take points away from Messina and who knows what may have happened.

Also Ranger don't forget about their 112, Keaton Thomas. He is an extremely tough kid who could of scored a lot of points for Union. That was a huge hole that got left open at the end of the season. I could see him scoring at least 15-18 points for Union at state easily.

In my book union county fans are the best cheer leaders, that new cheer they have is really original. Not saying thats what matters but it was nice to hear something other than the same cheers over and over again.