Lets use this thread to post updates and such for the folks who can't make it to Frankfort. I know KHSAA tries to stay updated but they usually lag behind the live action. Plus we can add info that a bracket can't provide. I'll be back and forth between the tourney and work for the next couple days and I'll try to post some info in here when I get a chance.
STATE TOURNEY RESULTS
Topic ID: 5050 | 151 Posts
any results yet?
goff pinned crittenden 1st period Yenter beat abney 11-0
Christian Country results so far are 103: Jeremy Burnham lost to Travis Schuyler, 112: Dee Leavell beat Chris Cory 12-4, 125:Korey Polley lost to Brandon Feltner.
Woodford results:
Bracco pinned
Logsdon pinned (w/ 17 secs left....looked sloppy)
Krazywitch tech falled
McCall won 4-1 (good match)
Others:
Lacy from Lafayette lost close to Joseph from Anderson
Hedges (TC) got worked by Supe it was 17-5 and Hedges hit a 5 pt throw and then Supe reversed to his back I think it was a 20-10 final.
Will Bryant (Laf) had a close match but won, not sure of score.
Warra won close
Wow. I bet Kasey feels kind of dumb now because all he was saying on here was about how he would win state...
anybody know anything about Bullitt Central's wrestlers
Zarth was only up 8-1 in the 3rd not sure how it ended...probably a pin.
112 Huffine SOUT won
119
Hoskinson ST X won
Murphy John Har pinned
Cooper SK won
Tucker Souther won
Osbourne Ryle pinned
Woodford results:
Bracco pinned
Logsdon pinned (w/ 17 secs left....looked sloppy)
Krazywitch tech falled
McCall won 4-1 (good match)
Others:
Lacy from Lafayette lost close to Joseph from Anderson
Hedges (TC) got worked by Supe it was 17-5 and Hedges hit a 5 pt throw and then Supe reversed to his back I think it was a 20-10 final.
Will Bryant (Laf) had a close match but won, not sure of score.
Warra won close
Are you saying bracco and logsdon pnned or got pinned by someone? same about travis K. and tec falled?
I was thinking that the brackets would be updated throughout the day as they went. Is that not how it works?
I'm saying they pinned their opponents.
I was thinking that the brackets would be updated throughout the day as they went. Is that not how it works?
Yeah, but it will be tonight before they get all the stuff updated, I' trying to provide some quicker info. I'm headed back to the tourney after 5pm.
didnt Bracoo have Fahy 2nd round? if so how did he do?
didnt Bracoo have Fahy 2nd round? if so how did he do?
Second round isn't until tonight for half the weight classes
How did Andersons Dillow do?(103)
ah. i wasnt able to make it up for the first day today. Thx
Thanks for everyone feeling in here with some results. I am not able to make it to State until tomorrow morning, so this has been helpful. Some of the reults that I am most interested in from today are...
Bracco Fahy 103
Proctor and Willbanks 145
Wright and Chavez 171
Thanks again
145
Bollman beat Wright
Dusty Brown won
Willbanks pinned Proctor first period ---- 4 beats 1
Alexandru pinned Pittman from Puducah Tilghman ---- 4 beats 1
Hendren beat Deng
145
Bollman beat Wright
Dusty Brown won
Willbanks pinned Proctor first period ---- 4 beats 1
Alexandru pinned Pittman from Puducah Tilghman ---- 4 beats 1
Hendren beat Deng
Wow, I had Proctor going deep in the winners. He had a tough draw though, Willbanks is pretty good.
does anyone know how john lampe (ST.X) did first round? or any results on region 3 wrestlers?
in 103 fahy teched brocco paden beat yenter by 2 and milford beat goff 6-3
I need a 103 and 112 1st rnd update..................please
112 going on now 103 posted above unless u need someone in particularI need a 103 and 112 1st rnd update..................please
in 103 fahy teched brocco paden beat yenter by 2 and milford beat goff 6-3
Well to much for some saying he could hang with him. I dont think anyone is on Fahys level.
yea I think he has teched Ruschell, Goff twice and now Brocco... Maybe paden can keep it to a major???Well to much for some saying he could hang with him. I dont think anyone is on Fahys level.
Lampe looked great in his first match. One of the best Sophomores in the state, in my opinion.
Honeycutt also won his first match.
All first round results are posted...http://www.khsaa.org/wrestling/2009/state/khs2009brk.htm
If anyone wants to see the standings...KHSAA.org just updated team totals...my shamrocks are rocking out
I heard Woodford's 189lb couldn't weigh in due to a skin condition. Chicken poxs I believe...bad luck.
wow bradbury kincer nice 2nd round matchup
yea I think he has teched Ruschell, Goff twice and now Brocco... Maybe paden can keep it to a major???
he majored goff twice
wow... 285 brandon bell from wayne lost first round
Wow. I bet Kasey feels kind of dumb now because all he was saying on here was about how he would win state...
Wow. I bet Kasey feels kind of dumb now because all he was saying on here was about how he would win state...
hey bear, would you mind finding my post on here and quoting it for me to read,that way i can see what you are talking about? i do believe that i NEVER once said anything about me definetly winning state. in fact, if you look at my state pick winner for 125, in the contest on here, its quite the opposite, with carr winning. wow, maybe now bear feels dumb for being proven so wrong...
ooooooooooooooo :-D
hey bear, would you mind finding my post on here and quoting it for me to read,that way i can see what you are talking about? i do believe that i NEVER once said anything about me definetly winning state. in fact, if you look at my state pick winner for 125, in the contest on here, its quite the opposite, with carr winning. wow, maybe now bear feels dumb for being proven so wrong...
burn LOL
I read thru all of Kasey's statements and I didn't find not one place where he said he would Win State.He is a very humble wrestler. There is no reason for him to feel dumb! :roll:
kasey i am disappointed in you. Quit worrying about what is said on here and worry about winning some matches. You have given alot to wrestling and you deserve to go out in style your senior year. You have a good path ahead and it looks like yo and Lenz may be battling for a podium finish. Step up and show everyone what u got. Good Luck!!burn LOL
hey bear, would you mind finding my post on here and quoting it for me to read,that way i can see what you are talking about? i do believe that i NEVER once said anything about me definetly winning state. in fact, if you look at my state pick winner for 125, in the contest on here, its quite the opposite, with carr winning. wow, maybe now bear feels dumb for being proven so wrong...
i know my draw is pretty tough. for me to win state, i would have to wrestle the number 7 guy, the number 9 guy, the number 3 guy, the number 1 guy, and then whoever made it from the other side, witch in my opinion will be austin palmer(2), or terrance demery(4). i will definetly have fun on my way to the state finals.
Ya who feels dumb now? To me it sounds like that is saying your gonna be in the finals... Maybe if you didn't spend so much time on here worrying about what other people say you'd get your head out of your a** and win a match.
How old are you Bear?
I was wondering the same thing
its funny, the post that you seem to have quoted, seems to be the ONLY post that says im going to the finals, and also seems to be in a sarcastic manner. you really think i had that much confidence of making it to the finals this year with an injured shoulder and a tough draw to post it on a site so that when i dont, some immature wrestler follower such as yourself can point out the fact that i didnt? wow, have fun growing up and having a successful life...AFTER you are done wrestling. cause afterall, isnt wrestling really about building character in kids? sure i may have not made it to the state finals, this year, or any other year, but i have learned enough about life to make it worth while. seems you didnt, when and if you wrestled.
In my opinion the only person in the state who would be competitive against Fahy would be Logan Wedding of Union County. Unfortunately he is only an 8th grader and word has it he wont be even attending school in the state of Kentucky next year. Now before all of you get on her and go crazy about what I just said, ask anyone who has watched Wedding over the past couple of years and they will tell you he is the real deal. Now do I think he would beat Fahy? Hell no, but would it be a better match then he will see at the high school state? I believe so. Wedding is going to damage next year when he is a freshmen in Indiana, just wait and see.
Along with that I think Fahy's best match is going to come against Willen, and the only reason i say that is because Willen gave Wedding a good match at state. In my honest opinion and I'm from Northern Kentucky so there is no bias here, but between Willen, Canter, and Wedding all three of these boys could place top 8 in state this year at high school. Just my thought
Union Co. 15-2 on day one with 10 pins and to tech falls.....not a bad start .
who lost for union county?
Union Co. 15-2 on day one with 10 pins and to tech falls.....not a bad start .
They had 12 pins. 145 and 171 lost
CoachSmith do you know what school Wedding will be going to?
It seems to me The Bear needs a life. He has spent over 11 days on here..Double what Hedges has. Hum :? makes ya wonder!
CoachSmith do you know what school Wedding will be going to?
evansville memorial i do believe
No it wasnt anything at all except an allergic reaction to some medicine he started taking last night for a sinus infection. Just goes to show some physicians dont know as much as they think.He went back to his doctor the doctor checked him out and that is what he said it was.
So I don't see Demery at 125. Did he not make weight or was he not able to wrestle anybody know what happened to him.
It seems to me The Bear needs a life. He has spent over 11 days on here..Double what Hedges has. Hum :? makes ya wonder!
Like the old high school superstar, still hanging around the field.... Let it go Jake... Start a family and get your son into the sport as he grows...
So I don't see Demery at 125. Did he not make weight or was he not able to wrestle anybody know what happened to him.
According to a North Hardin wrestler, he was over so last night so he didn't make the trip.. Tough way to go out as a senior, but I guess it's a life lesson.
It seems to me The Bear needs a life. He has spent over 11 days on here..Double what Hedges has. Hum :? makes ya wonder!
kinda of rude to criticse somebody's performance at state true. But a senior who is competing in the state tournament should not be worried about the goings on of a website.
According to a North Hardin wrestler, he was over so last night so he didn't make the trip.. Tough way to go out as a senior, but I guess it's a life lesson.
i think hes just a junior so he has another year he missed weight at region last year also
Over weight is no excuse and dont come here for simpethy... have some disapline.... its not like the good ol days when we could cut 15-20 pounds..... Overwweight is no excuse and its to bad for you that you didnt get to stand up there with the rest of the state placers... Wrestling is the greatest sport in the world... there's no excuses... 1 on 1 ... no one on your team can help you in the end. whos man enough to win ... not you DEUCES!!!!!!!!
In my opinion the only person in the state who would be competitive against Fahy would be Logan Wedding of Union County. Unfortunately he is only an 8th grader and word has it he wont be even attending school in the state of Kentucky next year. Now before all of you get on her and go crazy about what I just said, ask anyone who has watched Wedding over the past couple of years and they will tell you he is the real deal. Now do I think he would beat Fahy? Hell no, but would it be a better match then he will see at the high school state? I believe so. Wedding is going to damage next year when he is a freshmen in Indiana, just wait and see.
Along with that I think Fahy's best match is going to come against Willen, and the only reason i say that is because Willen gave Wedding a good match at state. In my honest opinion and I'm from Northern Kentucky so there is no bias here, but between Willen, Canter, and Wedding all three of these boys could place top 8 in state this year at high school. Just my thought
Logan is good and so is Willen, but they are no where close to being in Fahy's league.
According to a North Hardin wrestler, he was over so last night so he didn't make the trip.. Tough way to go out as a senior, but I guess it's a life lesson.
Not a senior. He has one more year.
But, this is the second year Demery has, for lack of a better word, imploded in the postseason. Last season he didn't make weight at regions and now this.
Can't and won't go into any details because everything I was told was off the record, but I feel Demery missed a shot at placing this year. Hope he can bounce back, again, next year.
Not a senior. He has one more year.
But, this is the second year Demery has, for lack of a better word, imploded in the postseason. Last season he didn't make weight at regions and now this.
Can't and won't go into any details because everything I was told was off the record, but I feel Demery missed a shot at placing this year. Hope he can bounce back, again, next year.
I picked him to make finals. I seen something about him not wrestling last night but thought it got all worked out with him and his coaches. I too hope he gets everything worked out, hes a really good wrestler.
Logan is good and so is Willen, but they are no where close to being in Fahy's league.
I agree, some of these kids may catch up with him because they are so young and still lots of growing to come, but currently Big John in a league of his own in KY!
2nd rd
Logsdon 119 majored Letcher Central 11-2
Krazywitch 125 pinned his oppon in the 2nd
McCall 130 got pinned by Ervin in the 2nd
Supe 125 won close, maybe 4-3
Union Co came to wrestle. They look very impressive thus far.
Anything on Preston Adams 152,Jake Lee 160?
looks like kyle terry has a good draw straight to the semis. good luck to that kid.
Also cant wait for the Shotwell Davis match, someone post an update on that ASAP please!
Nothing like a kid from a catholic school jumping up and screaming "F@?! Yeah" after winning a match.
Nothing like a kid from a catholic school jumping up and screaming "F@?! Yeah" after winning a match.
LOL! Hallelujah!
Give us a name or at least a school and weight class.Nothing like a kid from a catholic school jumping up and screaming "F@?! Yeah" after winning a match.
Nothing like a kid from a catholic school jumping up and screaming "F@?! Yeah" after winning a match.
Oh man you wouldn't believe the things that these catholic school kids do. I went to Iroquois middle and Mt. Carmel both, the Mt. Carmel kids make the Iroquois kids look like absolute saints I swear.
Give us a name or at least a school and weight class.
Bout #319
lewis-tri pinned houchens-s.old?
I think maybe you guys are misinterpreting what I was saying earlier. I agree that their isn't a single person in the state that is on John's level, but what I was saying is that the second best 103 in the state currently wrestles for Union County's Middle School team. I was saying it is a shame not getting to see him wrestle against the like's of Fahy in the state tournament. That's all. I don't think he is on John's level at all, but he is the closest in the state to being there.
he'll get a chance at him next year because Trinity goes to the Harrison 10-way tourn. Logan will be wrestling for Memorial
lewis-tri pinned houchens-s.old?
NO WAY?! Is this the truth?
I never got the scoop on Justin Davis. What happened to him at regionals?
Matches are updated through 2nd round of winners bracket.
I never got the scoop on Justin Davis. What happened to him at regionals?
Illegal cross face
Does anyone know what bout # they are up to
lewis-tri pinned houchens-s.old?
no he dec. him 7-2..nice upset if i say so...
Does anyone know what bout # they are up to
#517 right now.
Shotwell and Davis wrestle yet?
any results on # 527
Buckman lost
is this true?
135 - luke ervin beat josh johnson?
buddy called me and said that's what he heard?
if so what a upset!!!
John Lampe beat Rashawn Graham. Shotwell/Davis are wrestling as I type; Davis 2-1, something like that.
Confirmationa please!! Luke beat Josh? That must have been a great matchup.
# 586 Thomas-uc vs bennett-buce, who won?
Dan Thomson (NO) DEC Tyler Grimm (Johnson Central) 5-4 in the 140 lb quarterfinals
Union Co Thomas won, Luke ervin won
Issac Ervin WON
Good day to be an Ervin!! Shotwell/Davis???
We may have to change our name to Ervin County
:-D
Tim McKenney won
McKenney-UC-189-won-pin
WAY TO GO UNION
Union County Radio Station WMSK 101.3 is their with LIVE coverage of tourn.
they will start again in the morning with live wrestling.
Shotwell/Davis???
Who won?
Davis. I do not know any details.
Yeah Davis won. In my opinion he controlled the match. The final score was 5-3(?) correct me if I'm wrong.
It is a shame these two met in quarter finals. They should have met under the lights.Yeah Davis won. In my opinion he controlled the match. The final score was 5-3(?) correct me if I'm wrong.
anyone have the team standings yet so far
http://www.khsaa.org/wrestling/2009/state/khs2009home.htm
Place Team Score
1. Trinity (Louisville) 121.50
2. Union County 102.00
3. Ryle 99.00
4. Johnson Central 72.50
5. Seneca 66.50
6. Campbell County 65.00
7. John Hardin 64.00
8. Larue County 60.00
9. Woodford County 59.00
10. Sheldon Clark 57.00
11. Oldham County 53.50
12. St. Xavier 53.00
13. Eastern 47.50
14. Henry Clay 43.50
15. Wayne County 42.50
16. Ohio County 37.00
17. Simon Kenton 35.00
18. South Oldham 34.00
19. North Oldham 33.50
20. Christian County 33.00
(tie) Meade County 33.00
(tie) Tates Creek 33.00
23. Nelson County 31.50
(tie) Paul Dunbar 31.50
25. Southern 30.00
26. North Hardin 29.00
27. Paducah Tilghman 27.50
28. Franklin County 27.00
29. Scott 26.50
30. Bullitt Central 26.00
31. Harrison County 25.50
32. Iroquois 23.50
33. Central Hardin 20.50
34. Central 20.00
(tie) Fern Creek 20.00
(tie) Jeffersontown 20.00
37. Moore 19.50
38. Lafayette 19.00
39. Letcher County Central 16.00
40. Cooper 15.00
(tie) Whitley County 15.00
42. Fairdale 14.00
43. Bryan Station 13.00
(tie) Hopkinsville 13.00
45. Ashland Blazer 11.50
(tie) Caldwell County 11.50
47. Danville 11.00
(tie) McCreary Central 11.00
(tie) Perry County Central 11.00
50. Anderson County 10.00
(tie) Apollo 10.00
52. Fort Knox 9.00
(tie) Valley 9.00
54. Daviess County 8.00
(tie) University Heights 8.00
56. Conner 7.00
(tie) Dixie Heights 7.00
(tie) Fort Campbell 7.00
(tie) Holy Cross (Louisville) 7.00
60. Boone County 6.00
61. Kentucky Country Day 5.00
62. Bourbon County 4.00
(tie) Calloway County 4.00
(tie) Holmes 4.00
(tie) Western Hills 4.00
66. DuPont Manual 3.00
(tie) Newport 3.00
(tie) Pleasure Ridge Park 3.00
69. Doss 1.00
(tie) Montgomery County 1.00
71. Unattached 0.00
(tie) Atherton 0.00
(tie) Bishop Brossart 0.00
(tie) DeSales 0.00
(tie) Kentucky School f/t Blind 0.00
(tie) Lawrence County 0.00
(tie) Madison Central 0.00
(tie) Shawnee 0.00
(tie) Western 0.00
Interesting day. Union and Trinity both put 6 in the semis. Johnson and Ervin was a great match. Johnson had the lead the whole match until the end. He was up by one and gave up a takedown with about 15 seconds left. Houchens, Shotwell, and Johnson all fail to make finals again. Shotwell Davis match was good, Davis seemed to be in control the whole time. A lot of good match ups tomorrow!
this is a little off topic but, Ichiro is the coolest guy ever
looks like kyle terry has a good draw straight to the semis. good luck to that kid.
kyle terry lost to supe in the quater finals
Good day to be an Ervin!! Shotwell/Davis???
Davis beat shotwell
Interesting day. Union and Trinity both put 6 in the semis. Johnson and Ervin was a great match. Johnson had the lead the whole match until the end. He was up by one and gave up a takedown with about 15 seconds left. Houchens, Shotwell, and Johnson all fail to make finals again. Shotwell Davis match was good, Davis seemed to be in control the whole time. A lot of good match ups tomorrow!
This is the first time Johnson hasn't made finals since his freshman year, when he ran into Zarth in the semis.
I really thought Shotwell would win this one, but I'm not sure if he could ever get a takedown on davis after watching this match, seemed like he took a million shots and never really came close. Davis was too short and his stance is so low he couldn't get under him, and he's so fast that he couldn't get around him. How do you take that guy down?!? It was a pretty sweet match, both guys worked hard the whole time. Although my guy didn't win, I wasn't at all disappointed with this match.... accept for the fact that it wasn't under the lights.
I really thought Shotwell would win this one, but I'm not sure if he could ever get a takedown on davis after watching this match, seemed like he took a million shots and never really came close. Davis was too short and his stance is so low he couldn't get under him, and he's so fast that he couldn't get around him. How do you take that guy down?!? It was a pretty sweet match, both guys worked hard the whole time. Although my guy didn't win, I wasn't at all disappointed with this match.... accept for the fact that it wasn't under the lights.
you could ask cody guiler how he took him down, i heard he got two takedowns on davis in the their second round meet up.
who made the finals? Khsaa isn't updating.
125-carr-in finals
130-c.ervin-in finals
135-Luke Ervin-w-in finals
140-I.Thomas-w-in finals
103 finals?
152-Issac Ervin-w-10-3 in finals
189-McKenney-L-7-3
any other finals results?
whiting got beat by christian county in the semis
what about the other trinity wrestlers
Fahy vs Milford
Bradbury vs Troxell
FINALS
Osbourne vs Zarth
Carr vs Palmer
Ervin vs Murphy
Ervin vs Sloan
Davis vs Isaac Thomas
Olhmann vs Brown
Jakes vs Ervin
Courtney vs Lee
Hitchings vs :?
Stafford vs :?
Kelly vs Pace(?)
Croney vs :?
anything on match #761
Fahy vs Milford
Bradbury vs Troxell
FINALS
Osbourne vs Zarth
Carr vs Palmer
Ervin vs Murphy
Ervin vs Sloan
Davis vs Isaac Thomas
Olhmann vs Brown
Jakes vs Ervin
Courtney vs Lee
Hitchings vs :?
Stafford vs :?
Kelly vs Pace(?)
Croney vs :?
Hitchings v Hogben
Stafford v Bradford
Fahy vs Milford
Bradbury vs Troxell
FINALS
Osbourne vs Zarth
Carr vs Palmer
Ervin vs Murphy
Ervin vs Sloan
Davis vs Isaac Thomas
Olhmann vs Brown
Jakes vs Ervin
Courtney vs Lee
Hitchings vs :?
Stafford vs :?
Kelly vs Pace(?)
Croney vs :?
Hitchings v Hogben
Stafford v Bradford
Croney(chr) vs Harlow(J.Central)
215-Kelly(sc) vs Ilg(camp)
Hate to say it but with Trinity-191.5 and 9 placers and Union-161 with 7 placers and Ryle-152 with 7 placers looks like Trinity will win their 1st state title since 1989, their 2nd overall.
Trinity has looked great all w/e Congrats. To Whiting you are a class act. You handled a defeat with dignity and class. Ohio State is getting a gem.
Well it looks all but locked up for Trinity to win. But I must say considering Union lost both of their state champions from last year they did alot better then I thought they would
since im not there... are you being sarcastic or did he really take it well.Trinity has looked great all w/e Congrats. To Whiting you are a class act. You handled a defeat with dignity and class. Ohio State is getting a gem.
125-Carr-State Champ
130-C.Ervin-State Champ
135-L.Ervin-State Champ
103 ?
125-Carr-State Champ
130-C.Ervin-State Champ
135-L.Ervin-State Champ
I want Luke Ervin to win MOW right now, just for the fact he beat Josh Johnson.
140-Davis(e) over Thomas(uc)
152-I.Ervin(UC) over D.Jakes(Lar)
UNION COUNTY
119-Matt Young- 7th
125-Aaron Carr- 1st
130-Caleb Ervin- 1st
135-Luke Ervin- 1st
140-Isaac Thomas- 2nd
152-Isaac Ervin- 1st
189-Timothy McKenney- 5th
Congratulations Guys
Off the subject for a second. The last post was at 9:43pm. It is now only 9:03 ET.
8:05 here
Must be Atlantic time!! The Canadians are running this website!
BOO!! TC BEAT Union Co in our first dual of the season and we came in like 20th.
BOO!! TC BEAT Union Co in our first dual of the season and we came in like 20th.
Was that when Union didnt have all of its wrestlers?
anyone have complete results along with MOW? its not up on khsaa.org
Was that when Union didnt have all of its wrestlers?
:-D there football players weren't there. but still. thats not a great excuse. :-D
what was the score when hwt Harlow pinned Croney?
who got the mow?
:-D there football players weren't there. but still. thats not a great excuse. :-D
I think that was when Issac was injured too, and everybody was bumping up a weight
what was the score when hwt Harlow pinned Croney?
who got the mow?
11-2? maybe
BOO!! TC BEAT Union Co in our first dual of the season and we came in like 20th.
go feed the llamas and take a shower scupp
P.S. hes on my team, dont rip my head off guys
preston adams lost to andrew wright in the quarters 6-4 and then he lost to robert robey 9-4 in order to place. so he did not placeAnything on Preston Adams 152,Jake Lee 160?
but jake lee ended up getting second losing to harrison courtney in the finals
11-2? maybe
The score was 11-0 before he got pinned with four seconds left in the match. Croney just steered away from what got him to that point. He is the type of wrestler that slows that match down and lets the other guy get tired before he goes on the attack, kinda like when he faced whiting. When he came out to face Harlow I guess he was hyped b/c he just came out pushing and very agressive. After the first period though I'm sure he was gassed from working too hard! He's my boy though and you have to give him props he had the toughest draw at state and came through w/ second.
iam srry if i disspointed u 385looks like kyle terry has a good draw straight to the semis. good luck to that kid.
iam srry if i disspointed u 385
Are you Kyle Terry?
yea :-D
iam srry if i disspointed u 385
It's alright Kyle, just keep working hard and you have a good shot at getting a title.
thxs man i want it really bad i will train year around for it