Topic ID: 5274 | 27 Posts
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mortal your kinda late on this one...that was last year
"phantom pin"
OH i kinda figured people would know, its just this year is the first time i started watchin videos and hearing the talk about Metcalf and it shocked me.
"phantom pin"
He looked pretty stuck to me. It was a beautiful splatle!
i dont have very good eyesight but it looked like his shoulders and shoulder blades were elevated off the mat slightly by the other wrestlers body
i agree and its spladdle
cradle + banana split = spladle
Obviously neither of you have read the rule book about what a pin is. Since two points of his back were flat on the mat, he is pinned. It does not take shoulder blades, or shoulders on the mat to be pinned.
Yes, you are correct on the spelling, sorry I didn't go back and re-read my quick 5 second post!
Oh, I better correct this before someone gets anal about it. Any two points on opposite sides of the spine.
I wasn't trying to say that referee made the wrong call, I couldn't see if he was pinned I really do have bad eyesight and couldn't see the video very well, but you don't have to act like I'm a complete idiot when it comes to the rules
I had no stake in the match
metcakf lost to caldwell again in the ncaa finals 11-6
metcakf lost to caldwell again in the ncaa finals 11-6
Caldwell wrestled a great match..poor sportsmanship by metcalf at the end
ya caldwell was on fire metcalf just got out wrestled. also metcalf did get a team point deducted for his poor sportsmanshipCaldwell wrestled a great match..poor sportsmanship by metcalf at the end
ya caldwell was on fire metcalf just got out wrestled. also metcalf did get a team point deducted for his poor sportsmanship
believe it or not it was actually caldwell who lost the team point. he started his celebration prematurely. it was a great match. i love to see the underdog come thru but i didnt even root for caldwell at first b/c i thought it was a for sure thing for metcalf to win
Metcalf lost the point. They interviewed the head referee and he explained why Iowa was losing the point and they showed about 10 times where the point had been deducted from Iowa. It's all good though.
believe it or not it was actually caldwell who lost the team point. he started his celebration prematurely. it was a great match. i love to see the underdog come thru but i didnt even root for caldwell at first b/c i thought it was a for sure thing for metcalf to win
nope metcalf lost the point
The main college wrestling forum has been talking about the Metcalf push since it happened, just like this forum has. An article has been posted on TheMat.com message board and it is pretty good. Thought I would post on here as well for all to read:
SESKER COLUMN: Bashing of Iowa's Metcalf needs to end
Craig Sesker USA Wrestling
03/26/2009
The Brent Metcalf bashing needs to stop.
Did Metcalf go over the line when he pushed North Carolina State
Isn't it ironic that because of all the hoopla surrounding the push, Sports Illustrated this week has a picture of Caldwell horizontal to the mat with Metcalf in the background looking menacing...Funny the only pub we can get in such a major publication is bad or in the Faces in the Crowd Section--which did have a blurb on a young man from Norfolf that pinned his way through the Virginia state tournament at 112. Each pin happened in the first minute of each match it said.
That match didn't change my opinion on Metcalf at all. Metcalf is a beast and is still the OVERALL better wrestler. It makes me so frustrated that Metcalf lost because I know Caldwell doesn't work half as hard as Metcalf does. Caldwell looses matches even gets pinned quickly, by Palmer, and still gets called the better wrestler. I think you all need to evaluate the situation, win or loose Metcalf was still the better wrestler. Caldwell beat him on that night but one match doesn't make your career. I love Rulon Gardner to death but he is not better than Alexander Karelin. Another thing, why do people call Metcalf a bully? Is it because of his desire to win? Is it because of his tenacity on the mat? If so, people need to get over it this is wrestling. In my opinion Metcalf has swagger and every champion needs a bit of swagger.
No, Caldwell is the better wrestler, when looking only at Metcalf and Caldwell as Calwell has proven in two matches. There is always a better wrestler, heck it could be argued that there was even a better wrestler than Dan Gable (maybe I wouldn't take stock in it, because I believe he was the ultimate wrestler, but he did lose). Just because Metcalf is the better wrestler when looking between Palmer and Metcalf and just because Palmer is the better wrestler when looking between Calwell and Palmer in no way makes Metcalf the better wrestler. Not to mention that a true champion would not have acted as Metcalf did. You are supreme in victory as well as defeat.
Speaking of myself, I hated losing more than anyone could every possibly imagine. Yet, I always acted as a perfect gentlemen. I may have been thinking to myself that I will tear you limb from limb next match, but I still acted as a perfect gentlemen.
Pretty late... but then again im late on telling you that your late.
That match didn't change my opinion on Metcalf at all. Metcalf is a beast and is still the OVERALL better wrestler. It makes me so frustrated that Metcalf lost because I know Caldwell doesn't work half as hard as Metcalf does. Caldwell looses matches even gets pinned quickly, by Palmer, and still gets called the better wrestler. I think you all need to evaluate the situation, win or loose Metcalf was still the better wrestler. Caldwell beat him on that night but one match doesn't make your career. I love Rulon Gardner to death but he is not better than Alexander Karelin. Another thing, why do people call Metcalf a bully? Is it because of his desire to win? Is it because of his tenacity on the mat? If so, people need to get over it this is wrestling. In my opinion Metcalf has swagger and every champion needs a bit of swagger.
When are you referring to Palmer pinning Caldwell? Because I remember Caldwell pinning Palmer in the 1st period this year.
No, Caldwell is the better wrestler, when looking only at Metcalf and Caldwell as Calwell has proven in two matches. There is always a better wrestler, heck it could be argued that there was even a better wrestler than Dan Gable (maybe I wouldn't take stock in it, because I believe he was the ultimate wrestler, but he did lose). Just because Metcalf is the better wrestler when looking between Palmer and Metcalf and just because Palmer is the better wrestler when looking between Calwell and Palmer in no way makes Metcalf the better wrestler. Not to mention that a true champion would not have acted as Metcalf did. You are supreme in victory as well as defeat.
Speaking of myself, I hated losing more than anyone could every possibly imagine. Yet, I always acted as a perfect gentlemen. I may have been thinking to myself that I will tear you limb from limb next match, but I still acted as a perfect gentlemen.
Actually Caldwell and Metcalf are 2-1 with Metcalf having a tech fall over Caldwell. I still think Metcalf is a better wrestler. I really don't see how staying on the attack is making you a bad gentleman? It's been proven in SEVERAL interviews nothing was intentional of the "push" not SHOVE or BULLDOZED as the idiots on youtube put it. Heck even Caldwell said he didn't think it was intentional so really people making judgements just on the video alone are looking at it from a third person view, which means your saying "To me it looked like a shove and was intentional". When in reality both wrestlers admitted that it wasn't an intentional push.
Metcalf is still the better wrestler though. His win percentage is far above Caldwell and that is something you just cannot take away. Looking at similar opponents Metcalf has beaten everyone of Caldwell's losses including Lang, Jenkins, Palmer, all of them.
Also I think Caldwell is scared. He doesn't want to come back and defend his title which infuriates me. Hopefully they wrestle in two weeks at the open.
When are you referring to Palmer pinning Caldwell? Because I remember Caldwell pinning Palmer in the 1st period this year.
You may be right was it at the Reno TOC? I may have mixed the two up.
You may be right was it at the Reno TOC? I may have mixed the two up.
It was at the Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invite in December. Caldwell pushed the pace from the beginning. He scored a nice arm drag to a single at the edge of the mat. Then started on top after they went out of bounds and recorded the fall soon thereafter. You can catch the match on Flo.