I just got down matching Meade County playing John Hardin in football.  Tyler Crow is one heck of a big strong fullback.  He is really fast for his size.  Is their any other Football/Wrestlers who stand out in both sports such as Tyler?

I can only speak as a fan at Ryle... There have been several excellent football players that were also wrestlers,  however Ryle's football coaches do not support their players wrestling.  The result is that these excellent football players were given an ultimatium to choose one sport over the other... all have selected wrestling.  A real shame as these wrestlers/football players were starters on the football team... and state champs or placers in wrestling.  Not only a tremendous sacrifice for the team but more importantly an unfair delima for the student... who should be able to participate and contribute to both sports.

I had a discussion the other day with a retired football coach about this problem. He found this ironic as when he started coaching the football coaches were pushing to have wrestling programs started so that the could put their players in wrestling.

Central has sent 3 stand out wrestlers to college to play football. Corey Peters, Mister Cobble, and Jordan Tennyson all are playing at UK.  The interesting thing is Coach Joker has said that they are good at football because of wrestling.

Ryle has a few football/wrestling athletes.

Western Hills has two upcoming wrestlers--football players....hopefully more to come...the head football coach supports the wrestling program and actually comes to some of the matches  !!!!!!!!!!!    it makes it a heck of alot easier to get kids to come out and the benefits are being seen not only on the field but in the classroom (consistant monitoring of grades) and their attendance (got to come to school to practice)  it will only make the kids better...he has seen what wrestling does for his student/ athletes, what kind of shape they are in , and the mental focus they bring with them.....it is a win/win situation.......thanks Coach Miller and Head Wrestling Coach Bowser for making this happen

Fort Campbell is sadly experiancing a decline in football players wrestling. Zach Rhinestine was the last really good football player wrestler.

Ive talked to a few of the more well built football players. Alot of the reasons they give for not wrestling stem from fear of injury (this has stopped a couple soccer players too), or the usual unwillingness to wear Singlets.

I dont really know what are the coach's opinons on the sport, the offensive line coach used to coach us and I think tried recruiting some wrestlers.

is there anyone wrestling and playing football at the college level out of ky?

Trey Gentry is a good football player. you can see him use skills from both sports to make him a better athlete.

is there anyone wrestling and playing football at the college level out of ky?

At VMI

Leon Barrow played football and was a heavyweight until he quit football his senior year. I think there are more though

is there anyone wrestling and playing football at the college level out of ky?

I believe Marcell Haynes (North Hardin) is wrestling and playing football for Campbellsville University.

what weight class is he going?

Brandon Barnett from Harrison County excels in both football and wrestling.

zach Zowder is having a pretty beast year

                                                gm  att  yrds  td  avg

Zach Sowder          Scott              10  317  1752  14  175

What school is he attending?

I dont even know but he is a beast if it is the kid i am thinking of

I just looked closer at the previous post and it looks like Scott county may be where he goes.

yeah he goes to scott

The heavy weight from McCreary co is a quality athlete in both sports. I don't know for sure, but I would say that he is being looked at by D1 schools for football. Gentry at Woodford is another big guy that is good in both sports. He was starting varsity football by the end of his freshman year and will most likely play football in college.

Also, did anyone see the article about the Bryan Station running back in the Lexington Hearald Leader? He said that being on he wrestling team is the hardest thing he has ever done and that it has made him a much better football player. He has over 2000 yards rushing, so I would say he's pretty good.

http://www.kentucky.com/high_school/football/story/994517.html

I just looked closer at the previous post and it looks like Scott county may be where he goes.

Scott HS in Taylor Mill (Northern KY) not Scott Co.

I can only speak as a fan at Ryle... There have been several excellent football players that were also wrestlers,  however Ryle's football coaches do not support their players wrestling.   The result is that these excellent football players were given an ultimatium to choose one sport over the other... all have selected wrestling.   A real shame as these wrestlers/football players were starters on the football team... and state champs or placers in wrestling.   Not only a tremendous sacrifice for the team but more importantly an unfair delima for the student... who should be able to participate and contribute to both sports.

Conner is the same way.  Sure, outwardly they'll say that kids can do both, but quietly they say "us or them".  Too bad.....

I can only speak as a fan at Ryle... There have been several excellent football players that were also wrestlers,  however Ryle's football coaches do not support their players wrestling.   The result is that these excellent football players were given an ultimatium to choose one sport over the other... all have selected wrestling.   A real shame as these wrestlers/football players were starters on the football team... and state champs or placers in wrestling.   Not only a tremendous sacrifice for the team but more importantly an unfair delima for the student... who should be able to participate and contribute to both sports.

  Where do you get your information from? I have personally spoken to the head football coach at Ryle and never has he implied or inferred that he would not support any football player if he or she decided to wrestle.  Never in the many years that I have been involved with both programs, have I ever heard of any ultimatum presented to any football player. I can think of three varsity football starters who also excel on the wrestling mat. I hope that your post is entirely predicated on hearsay and rumors, for if it isn't, it sure sheds a new light on this subject.

Kids at Ryle I know were given the football or wrestling "ultimatum"

Bryan Peace

Mason Reid

Alex Pickett

Jake Bradford

Will Hogben

Kids at Ryle I know were given the football or wrestling "ultimatum"

Bryan Peace

Mason Reid

Alex Pickett

Jake Bradford

Will Hogben

      OK.  I will take these names to the coach after the seasons over and see what he has to say about it.  An ultimatum is a very powerful statement. If this is his stance, then he obviously does not understand that the two sports compliment one another. Thanks

Didn't Will Hogben both wrestle and play football his senior year?

      OK.  I will take these names to the coach after the seasons over and see what he has to say about it.  An ultimatum is a very powerful statement. If this is his stance, then he obviously does not understand that the two sports compliment one another. Thanks

I would be very surprised if a coached actually admitted to giving an athlete an ultimatum. I think you'll most likely get a political dance step answer, such as "I told him that should concentrate on one sport to maximize his potential." 

Or have one of his assistants deliver the message for him

The Benefits of Wrestling

By Jack Fisher ([email protected])

Editor of Texas Wrestling Magazine

            Talking with football coaches, I find they labor under the myth that wrestling is an off-season sport that detracts from their program and does not support the goals of football.  What are the goals of football?  Strength, speed, endurance, quickness, coordination, balance and weight gain are the most sought after outcomes for young athletes in football.  I will concede that wrestling does not support the goal of weight gain but encourages its athletes to maintain or cut weight.  Football and wrestling are both maligned by the public for the methods often used by their athletes to achieve their weight goals.  More has been said about the ill effects of weight gain products than the methods wrestlers use to lose weight.  Now with the rule that a high school athlete cannot lose more than 10% of their body weight from the certification weight at the beginning of the season, less controversy surrounds weight loss efforts as it has achieved a more natural process.  Having 275 as the limit for heavy weight wrestlers, it excludes offensive linemen tipping the scales at more than 305 pounds.  Football coaches need not fear that their behemoth linemen will shrink in size, as they would be disqualified the minute they step on the scales.  The sleek, speedy, muscular, linebackers and defensive backs, however, will find wrestling the most enduring off-season sport. 

            Ounce of ounce, you will not find a stronger athlete than a superior wrestler.  Many an unskilled and inexperienced wrestler has achieved victory through strength alone.  Those who achieve greatness, however, are skilled, experienced, and strong.  Wrestling coaches of winning programs incorporate weight lifting and strength building as a part of their training, some even having weight rooms, free weights and weight machines of their own.  Even wrestlers that do not follow a regimen of weight lifting on their own will acquire strength on the mat by the resistance they meet in their opponents.  The sport demands that you overpower your opponent, hence the need for strength.

            Speed is an indirect outcome of wrestling.  It is achieved by the strength and conditioning requirements for a wrestler in training.  Just as in track (which by the way is a sport that does not overlap in seasons with wrestling), the great sprinters do much weight training with the lower body, an effective wrestler will work the upper and lower body equally.  There is great demand put on the lower body of a wrestler as he pushes against his foe while in the neutral position, or in having to lift his opponent off the mat while bringing him down to the mat under control.  As a part of conditioning, some coaches require running distances and sprints to get the body in shape, just as a track coach would do for his runners to build speed and endurance.

            I once overheard an outstanding wrestler (state champion at 145 and two-time state placer) who also was an all-district standout in football his junior and senior year at linebacker, comment at the end of football season,

Great post -- all so true. However

"Time outs are allowed for injuries only, not to catch your breath." ???

This is supposed to be the case, but I see wrestlers take time outs at pretty much every tournament. Some have learned to feign injury so they can rest, get water, etc. Others yell out that they're hurt when they're being pinned so they can stop the action.

Ryan Harlow from Johnson Central is a great 2 sport athlete and Preston Shoopman from McCreary Central is an extremly talented fullback/linebacker as well as a state placer in wrestling

      OK.  I will take these names to the coach after the seasons over and see what he has to say about it.  An ultimatum is a very powerful statement. If this is his stance, then he obviously does not understand that the two sports compliment one another. Thanks

I too am aware of these individuals given ultimatiums.... but let's be clear about how the ultimatium worked.  They were not told they needed to quit, but if they chose to continue to wrestle they were immediately moved from starting positions to backup or bench.  This many times meant that an athlete like Bryan Peace sat the bench rather than starting.  He was probably one of the quickest players you would find on the field and yet would find himself on the bench or playing only a few minutes per game.  So... you can take the list to the coach and he will tell you he did not make them quit... which he didn't, but I doubt he will own up to telling them they had to make a choice.  Each of the individuals above... over several separate years/occasions, have said the same thing. 

I believe the biggest concern is the "cutting weight" aspect... but the coaches haven't taken the time to learn how the conditioning, training,  and the overall body strength... the total body control this sport gives an athlete.  If they did, they would understand that a well conditioned wrestler would be one of the biggest assets on their football team.

Used to be a student could and was encouraged to participate as many sports as possible... sometimes 3 or 4.  Now they are discouraged to participate in more than 1.  These kids are only kids once and their opportunity to participate in these sports many times ends after high school.  We as parents, teachers, administration, coaches, etc. are really doing these kids a huge disservice.

A lot of Sheldon Clark's wrestlers are playing in the state semifinal game this friday against Somerset. Notable starters include:

Matt Slone- running back/corner back

Avery Ray- running back/outside linebacker

Casey Delong- tight/split end

Austin Stepp- quarterback

Brad Stafford- fullback/defensive end

Dustin Burchett- center/defensive tackle

Congrats boys on a regional championship last weekend and good luck this week. Lets win one more and go to the state championship game in Bowling Green!!!

alot of the football players/wrestlers are in the upper weight classes usually 171-hwt

How did Shelden Clark do???

i know wade holtsclaw from john hardin is a very good wrestler and i heard hes a better football player than he is a wrestler. 

How did Shelden Clark do???

Sheldon Clark had 7 turnovers in a 28-12 loss to Somerset in the state semi's last friday. They had a great season and should be very proud of everything they accomplished. We wish good luck to Somerset this weekend they are very classy bunch of players and fans.