What moves are mastered by any wrestler that is very painful :twisted: :twisted:

I saw a guy literally try to tap out once when Hildreth had him cranked over with the legs in.

Harrison Courtney Splitting people with legs

I believe last year (2005) Courney made Peace squeal in the match for 3rd.

not trying to be a goody 2 shoes here, but really no moves should be used to cause pain, right? such as a body scissors is legal, but when you start squeezing to the point to try to pop their intestines out the back door, that's illegal from what i've been told. this is probably not a good thread for the sport considering parents & younger wrestlers get on here. as far as peace squealing....from the look of him after the match was over, it looked like the legs were being pulled a part instead of towards his head, that's definitely not the right way to hit the splits if you want a pin. most refs stop the match when that goes on.

I agree that trying to injure someone is not what this sport is about.

However pain is part of the sport. This is what sets it apart from all other sports. Your goal is to force your opponent to do something that they don't want to do.

Most pins DON"T occur because of the move itself. Most pins occur because you have caused your opponent to give up or concentrate on soemthing other than his back.

A great Blast double works because of the pain. A good crossface or facelift works because of pain. A guillotine (Sp) works because it is painful. And lets not forget a splaydal. (sp)

This is wrestling not the chess team. (As my coach use to tell me), and I pass this on to my son.

P.S. I agree the splits put on Peace probably should have been stopped, it was being done illegally.

Yep, trying to hurt someone is ridiculous ... but there's not anything wrong with "persuasion" so long as its within the rules.

cory peters did a grape vine to me and it hart

after cameron bibbs threw in his splits on 3 people at state it took them a while to get up and once they did it looked like they might be bow legged for life ..

Yep' date=' trying to hurt someone is ridiculous ... but there's not anything wrong with "persuasion" so long as its within the rules.[/quote']

I agree with this 100%. I guess my point was that wrestlers need to be aware that if you take a legal move such as scissoring the body, and use it strictly to apply pain....it becomes illegal. At least that's what I was told by 1 ref.

after cameron bibbs threw in his splits on 3 people at state it took them a while to get up and once they did it looked like they might be bow legged for life ..

I made a point of watching all of his matches because I knew he used it in almost every single match. He split our 135. After the match was over, he just layed there with his face in the mat. There was one time when a guy had me split and it was so bad that I tried to stick myself and I couldn't because of the position I was in. It was the worst thing i've ever experienced in a match.

after cameron bibbs threw in his splits on 3 people at state it took them a while to get up and once they did it looked like they might be bow legged for life ..

is that the black guy with the blue and red singlet, if so yea he hit that move a ton and they didnt get up for a good 5 min

Lol, that sounds horrible Ridge45. And yes, the black kid with the red and blue singlet is Bibbs chc286

You are taking it the wrong way this forum is asking what is most painful move, Im not asking who is tryimg to hurt somebody on purpose and splitting the legs is a good move to do and also a crossface and I am very good a that. :wink: :wink:

I got called for an illegal move on a Split because the ref said iw as pulling the leg up instead of easing it over. At the time i didnt agree, but now that I look back on it, I am glad he made the call and would hope he wouldve made the same call had it happened to me. I know a kid who would try and body scissor until the kids would tap out and it simply annoyed me, get your three points with the hold and then work the pin.