In your opinion who will be the top 8 guys at 140 next year?

if he stays at 140 ben edwards from vally will be one of the top 8

If Ashbrook goes 140 he would have to be a favorite, taking 8th at nationals, and being an all-american. He just gets better as he wrestlers more.

Kevin Stewart will do well at 140 next year.

i agree with bop edwards was looking good at practice

matt miller is goin 135 again !

I can't imagine that either Thunerman or Golsby from Nky going up a wt. class. I wouldn't be shocked to see both of them at 140 again.

i might be wrong but wasnt there a couple of times where golsby didnt make weight for 140 or did he make weight but had a beter chance of wining at 145

I had mentioned this in an earlier post that Golsby missed weight twice by less than a half poung.

I also heard from teammates of his that his skinfold allowed him to go 125-130 but he did not have disciplene at loosing weight last year.

I had mentioned this in an earlier post that Golsby missed weight twice by less than a half poung.

I also heard from teammates of his that his skinfold allowed him to go 125-130 but he did not have disciplene at loosing weight last year.

And I don't see that changing next season. With him being heavy this summer (150's) I don't see him going below 145.

Lets hope that he takes last years performance at the state tournament as a wake-up call.

If he does he should be 135-140 if he doesn't he could be 145-160.

I think it would be nice to see Brown, Peace, Thuenerman, Golsby, and Josh Cooper all at different wt. classes next year because they could all be contenders for the title and bring back NKy dominance.

Lets hope that he takes last years performance at the state tournament as a wake-up call.

If he does he should be 135-140 if he doesn't he could be 145-160.

I think it would be nice to see Brown' date=' Peace, Thuenerman, Golsby, and Josh Cooper all at different wt. classes next year because they could all be contenders for the title and bring back NKy dominance.

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I agree with all except Brown. I see him in the top 5, but not sure about challenging for it all.

if he stays at 140 ben edwards from vally will be one of the top 8

I agree Ben did good at 140 but next season I definatly see him goin' at least 145 if not 152

Brandon Howard will be #1 if he goes 140.

I think that Thuenerman will return to 140, but it is hard to tell. If He and Goldsby return to 140 in Nky and Ashbrook from Harrison is there. my pick would be

1. Thuenerman

2. Ashbrooke

3. Golsby

4. Howard

5. Stewart

6. Case

7. Griffith

This is if Miller does not go 140 as advertised.

Are you guys talking Dusty Brown or Rashad Brown?

I agree Ben did good at 140 but next season I definatly see him goin' at least 145 if not 152

i dont kno if he will hes good at keeping his weight down and if he dose go up a weight class it will be 145 not 152

I am talking about Dusty Brown. He may not be ready to compete yet. He is not in the same league as Lewis or Wood, but he has the potential to be.

I agree with you on Dusty. I believe you'll see a HUGE improvement in him next year...he stays very active in the off-season.

I bet theunemen is Happy Joe Powers is a senior...lol

knowing thuenerman, probably not. He likes the challange and Thuenerman did defeat him 3 or 4 times during the season.

i dont kno if he will hes good at keeping his weight down and if he dose go up a weight class it will be 145 not 152

If Hector Rosado goes 140 again Ben WILL have something to seriously work for! And I will be one of the top 8!

(wow...i feel pretty stupid having to self-proclaim this shit... but im not getting any props)

Brandon Howard will be #1 if he goes 140.

i agree

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i agree

I will aslo agree IF. Thuenerman' date= Ashbrooke, and Peace are NOT at 140

i am confident howard would beat ANY of them.

If Hector Rosado goes 140 again Ben WILL have something to seriously work for! And I will be one of the top 8!

(wow...i feel pretty stupid having to self-proclaim this shit... but im not getting any props)

i saw ben wrestling hector at river city and ben looked like Ben edwards didnt even have a challenge while wrestling Hector so i think he will win regionalsat 140 easy and will be top eight in state.

i am confident howard would beat ANY of them.

I think Mr. Ashbrooke might have something to say about that. I also think Thuenaman is a notch above him. I'll give him Peace as I think he beat him at the state duals, though I think Peace was off that day. Definitely a different guy than we saw in Frankfort.

Malcolm Jackson could easily wind up at 140 or Kevin Stewart could be back at 140 either could figure in to this mix

my opinion:

1.Brandon Howard

2.Malcom Jackson

3.Bryan Peace

4.Josh Ashbrooke

my opinion:

1.Brandon Howard

2.Malcom Jackson

3.Bryan Peace

4.Josh Ashbrooke

I counter with:

1) Thuenaman (the best 140 throughout the last season

2) Ashbrooke

3) Miller (unless he gets back to 135)

4) Case

5) Howard (unless he goes 135)

6) Stewart

I think Peace will end up at 135 and Jackson at 145.

I think Mr. Ashbrooke might have something to say about that. I also think Thuenaman is a notch above him. I'll give him Peace as I think he beat him at the state duals' date=' though I think Peace was off that day. Definitely a different guy than we saw in Frankfort.[/quote']

Peace beat Howard at state duals in overtime with a headlock to win by five, on an off day. Howard is a great wrestler though, kinda funky and always dangerous.

BTW, these threads don't really show much. Weight changes are unpredictable.

Sorry about that, I read something wrong. Anyway, he at least can argue that he hung in there with Peace. Ashbrooke was a different story.

Ashbrook spanked Howard, 9-2 Howard had nothing for Ashbrook from what I saw of the match, it was a the BCIWT wasnt it?????

He had a nice left hook for ashbrook from what i saw

my opinion:

1.Brandon Howard

2.Malcom Jackson

3.Bryan Peace

4.Josh Ashbrooke

Peace beat Howard at state duels this year. Ashbrooke also beat him before Howard dropped to 130. If Howard doesn't lose his head, Ashbrooke would never win by that much again. That left hook was a symptom of already having lost his focus.

Thuneman almost looks too tall with his build to hold 140. Yeah, he didn't go 135 because of the fold test or whatever ... there's a reason one fails the fold test for that weight. They're too big to be wrestling it.

Howard didnt lose his head until he realized that he was going to lose with like 15 seconds to go from what I saw, Howard hit him within the last 15 seconds after Ashbrook took him down

ben edwards?  i wrestled him 3 times in the past couple years. once this past year. he is a great wrestler, but not top 8. he doesn't seem to like wrestling on the mat as much as takedowns though. he is superb at take downs though. his match with me was one of my best in the season despite my short comings. just remember none of this is meant to be offensive. ben does have great potential, he is a strong wrestler.

on to the other guys.. i dont think 140 can be anywhere near decided. it is probably due to all the dominant wrestlers are gone and anyone can improve greatly over the summer and take over the weight class.

Josh Ashbrook is a God He Is the best wrestler alive. HE is a tank too

Josh Ashbrook is a God He Is the best wrestler alive. HE is a tank too

Wow.....wow

Josh Ashbrook is a God He Is the best wrestler alive. HE is a tank too

I assume this is sarcastic in response to some of the posts above.

aight heres what ive come up with

1. Malcolm Jackson

2.Bryan Peace

3. Josh ashbrook

4. Brandon Howard

Thuenamen weighs 145 now  he is going to be hard to stop at 140 after taking 3rd last two years in a row he is going to be very hungry for a title.

i am confident howard would beat ANY of them.

I do belive that ashbrook beat howard last year at bourbon, then howard dropped to 30 after that because of ashbrook and murton.

He had a nice left hook for ashbrook from what i saw

No he had a bout 3 left hooks for ashbrook and I have a pic of one of them.  I have never seen someone give up like that after ashbrook got in deep on him three times and howard was running off the mat to get away from him, and ashbrook IS GOING 140

Howard is an animal, no getting around it.  He took Parker to the limit twice, and took Peace to overtime.  He roughed up Ben Rust at state (real off day though) who'd gone to the wire with Peace twice, and Rust had beaten Ashbrooke out of season as well (size disadvantaged at that).  Out of season is out of season, although i suspect Ashbrooke doesn't sit and do completely nothing.  I also note Howard smoked Collins from Johnson Central at regions, and Collins looked flat out impressive at state ... if i'm not mistaken he handed Bowlds his behind there.  He would likely have been a semi-finalist had it not been for the body slam.

I'm using this example as a common opponent argument, shakily due to using out of season matches, and what i'm saying is Ashbrooke deal is taking one match out of context.  Enjoy the win, its impressive, but there's no way Howard will lose by 7 again.  He may very well lose as Ashbrooke is tough, but enough of this.  Jackson beat Peace badly at the duels, although i think Peace was clearly the better wrestler as the results at state proved.  I saw Jackson hit shots on Peace that Peace never gets hit with, and I suspect thats probably the type of deal that happened with Howard.  Lets not try to say Ashbrooke is superior based on a single match, and not let the left hooks sway judgement on pure wrestling talent.  We're not discussing character and all that here (i'm not judging the kid, i've been that mad in matches).

I'd say you can't accurately rank these four (Peace, Jackson, Howard, Ashbrooke) until a month and a half of wrestling happens if they even all end up the same class in the first place.

ya i agree u cant really put one guy over another yet but u cant say peace proved to be the better wrestler based on state because jackson didnt even wrestle at state he was over weight at regionals

Yea I definetely agree with both grapplinfan and fc145,you cant determine anything until we see where these guys fall in November I definetely give the top 4 to Ashbrook,Peace, Jackson maybe Stewart, and Howard they're all great wrestlers. Cant wait to see where they all go!!!!!!!!!!!!