what are the top 3  toughest weight classes in your opinion?

Just at a casual glance I would say 125, 130, and 171

Toughest to win or toughest to place?

Toughest to win has to be 152 with Caleb Ervin there.  Toughest to place takes too much effort to sit and analyze everyone.

id say toughest to win would be 125 160 and 152

Toughest to win: 112, 152, 160

Toughest to place: 103, 130, 140 (not so sure about 40 though, could be 25.)

toughest to win in my mine will be 125,152,171...those have a clean cut wrestler in my mind who should win it. It will be hard for anyone else to beat them, but that's why we wrestle the matches.

103,130,215 from what I have seen all have two or more who have a legit shot at the title, so they are the toughest in that way

Tell us who the clear-cut favorites are?

Fahy, Ervin, Jude

Really? Fahy,ervin,and jude.  From what I have seen and talking with many other coaches these guys are on the next level for their weight classes. Its gonna be hard for someone to knock them off,not saying it can't happen.

Wrestlers we don't see losing at state

112- Brock Ervin

125- John Fahy

152- Caleb Ervin

171- J.J. Jude

I could be wrong, but I see Bernard Ray giving Jude a run for his money at 171.

i think ray jude would be a good match but isnt ray 189.

ervin and fahy are almost untouchable and brock is barely behind them.

jude is a beast but he got pinned last year so he has shown that he can be beat.  even though i dont think it is going to happen. i see 112 as the deepest after brock, 2nd thru 8th will be a dog fight.

i see trinity or fairdale kinda giving jj a run not saying they will win for sure but they will b a tough match for jj

Really?

Bernard Ray wrestled 171 this past weekend at regional duals.

I would say clear cut favorites

103 Yenter

112 B. Ervin

119 Ruschell

125 Fahy

135 Cooper

152 C. Ervin

171 Jude

Of these I don't think there is anyone close to beating them.

I would say clear cut favorites

103 Yenter

112 B. Ervin

119 Ruschell

125 Fahy

135 Cooper

152 C. Ervin

171 Jude

Of these I don't think there is anyone close to beating them.

If Ray goes 171 he will be a serious threat.

If Ray goes 171 he will be a serious threat.

Ray would be a huge 171....

Ray would be a huge 171....

Exactly, he didn't lack any size or strength last season at 189.

kyle terry is a big time favorite at 130

Really?

i mean not that they would win it but they could be a good match to see

If Ray goes 171 he will be a serious threat.

Ray wrestled 171 some last year. I have seen Jude this year and I think Ray would be better off at 189, where the defending champ hasn't wrestled most of the year because of injury.

I wouldn't say 119 is clear cut. Chase Boone ha a serious shot at beating ruschell.

I would bet on Ruschell beating Boone by quite a bit

Why would ray avoid Jude?  Ray is almost as strong and a much better wrestler. At 189 many guys stronger and harder to make it through entire field.  IMO ray beats Jude 8 out of 10 matches.

I would say clear cut favorites

103 Yenter

112 B. Ervin

119 Ruschell

125 Fahy

135 Cooper

152 C. Ervin

171 Jude

Of these I don't think there is anyone close to beating them.

Yenter has Blackwell at 103. With Brock as a training partner I'm sure Trae will now exactly what to do.

And one has to look at how impressive Chase Boone has been this year at 119. Ruschell is still the favorite but I wouldn't say clear cut.

Kevin Cooper is an amazing wrestler but saying he is an untouchable favorite like either of the Ervins is a major slap to the face of Brent Hitching and Keaton Thomas

i see fausz of campbell county beating boone, i dont think boone has much of a shot against ruschell , and i dont see hitchings giving cooper to big of a run for his money either , and garth i think being injured all year would be the only reason blackwell would give him a run for his money

Why would ray avoid Jude?  Ray is almost as strong and a much better wrestler. At 189 many guys stronger and harder to make it through entire field.  IMO ray beats Jude 8 out of 10 matches.

I know it is your opinion, but how is Ray a much better wrestler?

Yenter has Blackwell at 103. With Brock as a training partner I'm sure Trae will now exactly what to do.

And one has to look at how impressive Chase Boone has been this year at 119. Ruschell is still the favorite but I wouldn't say clear cut.

Kevin Cooper is an amazing wrestler but saying he is an untouchable favorite like either of the Ervins is a major slap to the face of Brent Hitching and Keaton Thomas

I know this is a whole new year, but let's examine last year's state tournament.

Yenter 19-2 over Blackwell.  I am sure the room down at Union will help Blackwell and Yenter has missed time due to medical reasons.  But 19-2 is a lot to make up.  He can pick Brock's brain all he wants, but you have to put the skills on the mat to make up that gap.

Boone 9-6 over Fausz and Ruschell 20-8 over Fausz (plus a 16-0 win earlier this year).  Ruschell is the top dog this year.

While I agree Cooper will have some tough, tough matches he beat Thomas 11-7 last season and came out of possibly the toughest quarter at state (with Thomas, Terry, and Troxell) to get to the final.  Which he very well could have won had he taken neutral rather than bottom against Palmer.

Good points there. I hope my boy trae works at his goals for the season and continues to dominate. When state happens I want him to win  :-D I love state!

At 119 I think bryant is going to suprise a lot of people. He has only lost 1 match this yr and it was at 125 to the grundy kid.

i think 130 and 125 and 119 will have some pretty intense good match ups, top 13 or 14 at 140 could all place , 125 i think supe will be in the finals against fahy and 119 boone and fausz i would really like to see in the semis again this year as well

I don't see a one kid at 145 simply dominating like some of the other weight classes have but if you throw in Whalen who wrestled 145 at LaFayette and Cole Proctor who I hear is cutting to 145, the top 4 or seems like a real meat

A real meat grinder that is!

Once again IMO,  Ray is much better than Jude in neutral.  I believe he is a much better technician and doesn't give up enough strength to give Jude an advantage.  I think ray may win either class but 171 would be a much easier path.

newfan13

Just based on your name it is clear that you are making statements based on your feeling and emotions not facts.  The facts are simple Ray is a fine wrestler.  But he would not beat JJ 8/10 times.  f you review both of their high school state wrestling results it clear that Ray was over matched  his freshmen year going 2 and 2 and losing in the first round, while JJ finished 3rd.  JJ and Ray both finished 3rd last year.  I am sure if Ray though it was "easier at 171 he be there and he is not. 

I don't see a one kid at 145 simply dominating like some of the other weight classes have but if you throw in Whalen who wrestled 145 at LaFayette and Cole Proctor who I hear is cutting to 145, the top 4 or seems like a real meat

newfan13

Just based on your name it is clear that you are making statements based on your feeling and emotions not facts.  The facts are simple Ray is a fine wrestler.  But he would not beat JJ 8/10 times.  f you review both of their high school state wrestling results it clear that Ray was over matched  his freshmen year going 2 and 2 and losing in the first round, while JJ finished 3rd.  JJ and Ray both finished 3rd last year.  I am sure if Ray though it was "easier at 171 he be there and he is not.

Hope so.

Whalen did wrestle 145 at Lafayette this past weekend and beat Lane Jones in the semi finals. If it is true that Proctor is dropping to 145- that class becomes pretty tough. I am assuming that Troxell bumped up to wrestle Salyers in a dual, but if Troxell goes 145...that would make it one tough weight class to win.  Granted, I haven't seen Caddell from Whitley wrestle this year.

Whalen did wrestle 145 at Lafayette this past weekend and beat Lane Jones in the semi finals. If it is true that Proctor is dropping to 145- that class becomes pretty tough. I am assuming that Troxell bumped up to wrestle Salyers in a dual, but if Troxell goes 145...that would make it one tough weight class to win.  Granted, I haven't seen Caddell from Whitley wrestle this year.

The infamous Duncan Caddell, anybody remember that?

The infamous Duncan Caddell, anybody remember that?