I finally stopped to get this update posted. There are still a ton of updates that will happen in the next month before kids step on the mat for competition at the first meet. Thanks to everyone who has sent me pms with information. I haven't responded to anyone as my life has been way too hectic (football practice/games, wrestling starting, baby on the way, MBA classes, prep for Super 32, and oh yeah my day job to name a few things). Anyway, keep the info coming.

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I don't know what the issues are with my copy/paste today. Attached is the excel file.

Well, now I can't upload. Try again later or tomorrow.

I'm having trouble in chrome with the basic uploader, try clicking "Try our advanced uploader (requires Flash 9)" or maybe another browser.

Also, excel files weren't allowed, but that is fixed. Email me the file if you still can't get it and I will try a few things.

Second try.

2011_2012 High School Rankings Oct 27.xlsx

I like the spreadsheet better anyway, and these rankings are one of the few ways I can find out whats going on around the state, etc. Thanks for the extra time you put in.

No Vanover boys Whitley Co.?

PDF version for anyone without excel

2011_2012 High School Rankings Oct 27.pdf

PDF version for anyone without excel

Thanks Mathound. I thought about that, but just didn't have the mental fortitude to take that simple step.

No Vanover boys Whitley Co.?

I heard they moved out of the state. Someone please let me know if I missed the boat on that. Because they would definitely be contenders in the upper weights.

you have 2 kids above me which i placed higher than? one being in the same weight class as me

why are there 2 moore kids ranked in 160?

you have 2 kids above me which i placed higher than? one being in the same weight class as me

Mostly because I don't like you. On a more serious note, I believe one of those kids beat you a couple times last year.

why are there 2 moore kids ranked in 160?

My mistake. But I do like the name moore.

I was just looking at alpha reports, and saw where the lowest Connor Wilkerson can go is 113. His alpha weight was 121. And Tyler Kaelin can go 120, not sure if he will though. Only a few schools had reports up so far (Christian Co., Oldham Co., Wayne Co., Trinity (Darrow,Fahy,Kahl only)).

wow region 1 is loaded at 145.

Yea, the other didn't and I beat his team mate from there who was a state runner up, its alright ranger you just wait till practice on Monday ill show you

Yea, the other didn't and I beat his team mate from there who was a state runner up, its alright ranger you just wait till practice on Monday ill show you

paul just shut up and wrestle..

Billy... you know I have a sick flying squirrel and I will hit it on you

paul just shut up and wrestle..

Let me just say, he did exactly that this weekend. Very impressive effort. A 7-4 loss (to the 4th placer) from bringing home some hardware.

Yeah, very nice tournament Paul!!!

The word I got from Whitley Co is one Vanover kid moved and the other one stayed. Not sure which one moved or which one stayed but I do know one of them played football so someone could probably look at the football roster and see which one is listed.

Not sure why but usa wrestling magazine has Stephen Myers jr Grant cty KY ranked 3rd at 138 for all jrs in the nation ,guess they know what weight he's going before he does and I guess all the Oh people who said he would drop of the rankings after coming to KY were wrong .a lot of ky kids at 138 4 studs.

Can't wait to see the fresh soph rankings I expect there will be aGrant CTy fresh ranked pretty high at 195 unless they know his weight better than him as well hahah,

KY may have one of the top ranked fresh in the nation in his weight ,a nice start to a nicer finish

The word I got from Whitley Co is one Vanover kid moved and the other one stayed. Not sure which one moved or which one stayed but I do know one of them played football so someone could probably look at the football roster and see which one is listed.

58 Samuel Vanover Off: OL,Def: DL, Jr.

Not sure why but usa wrestling magazine has Stephen Myers jr Grant cty KY ranked 3rd at 138 for all jrs in the nation ,guess they know what weight he's going before he does and I guess all the Oh people who said he would drop of the rankings after coming to KY were wrong .a lot of ky kids at 138 4 studs.

Can't wait to see the fresh soph rankings I expect there will be aGrant CTy fresh ranked pretty high at 195 unless they know his weight better than him as well hahah,

KY may have one of the top ranked fresh in the nation in his weight ,a nice start to a nicer finish

Mr. NKY give it a break, it is awesome that your son is ranked high nationally, but these ranking services are guessing what weight classes most kids are wrestling considering most kids move up weight classes from year to year. You obviously have some serious heartache with Ohio, I'm thinking they ran you away from the state because you like lashing back at them whenever you have the chance. I hope your boys don't get upset at state because I don't know who would be more disappointed you or them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well didn't run from Ohio but my boys did leave there 1,with an undefeated yr and a state title and the other with 2 yrs in a row undefeated and a state title ,Elder was fine with us .

My boys just finished football ,who cares about Indiana this is a Ky site talking about 2 kids from ky who came back after being in Oh for a long while,

That's just to answer a few remarks I have seen .

As I said I never down anyone or make degrading comments or untrue remarks there's no need ,

As for all the bs on here everyone downing me knows absolutely nothing about me or my boys many of you are so far out of our circle or our way of life that it is totally alien to you ....there has never been any kids like mine in ky and I mean ever .my sons have a list of friends that I have trained trained with and had them around while they were growing up that most people would be fortunate to be around and learn from for a few hours you have no clue as to who we or I am .

My son gets college letters every few days both dominated the state of Oh last yr and as for me being a loser do you know who the f&@&I am ....I don't think so ..... I am the GOAT bro ...7 x state powerlifting champion 3x Mr NKY .you even breathe the same air as me dude and you get bigger faster stronger I create monsters not just champions I am the ultimate Alpha dog hahaha ,

CHRIS"MASSIVE"MYERS you cross me or doubt me and you WILL end up eating CROW .

Ask the haters across the river they learned the hard way by watching my boys totally dominate them for yrs doesn't matter to me I can be your best friend because I have nothing but love for everyone or you can end up frustrated as hell because I refuse to lose or let my kids lose we simply train harder know more and want it more ,come and do something about it if you want I will show you a loser that always wins ........that's a fact

This used to be a good site to catch up on Kentucky wrestling. Hope one guy doesn't totally ruin it.

Well didn't run from Ohio but my boys did leave there 1,with an undefeated yr and a state title and the other with 2 yrs in a row undefeated and a state title ,Elder was fine with us .

My boys just finished football ,who cares about Indiana this is a Ky site talking about 2 kids from ky who came back after being in Oh for a long while,

That's just to answer a few remarks I have seen .

As I said I never down anyone or make degrading comments or untrue remarks there's no need ,

As for all the bs on here everyone downing me knows absolutely nothing about me or my boys many of you are so far out of our circle or our way of life that it is totally alien to you ....there has never been any kids like mine in ky and I mean ever .my sons have a list of friends that I have trained trained with and had them around while they were growing up that most people would be fortunate to be around and learn from for a few hours you have no clue as to who we or I am .

My son gets college letters every few days both dominated the state of Oh last yr and as for me being a loser do you know who the f&@&I am ....I don't think so ..... I am the GOAT bro ...7 x state powerlifting champion 3x Mr NKY .you even breathe the same air as me dude and you get bigger faster stronger I create monsters not just champions I am the ultimate Alpha dog hahaha ,

CHRIS"MASSIVE"MYERS you cross me or doubt me and you WILL end up eating CROW .

Ask the haters across the river they learned the hard way by watching my boys totally dominate them for yrs doesn't matter to me I can be your best friend because I have nothing but love for everyone or you can end up frustrated as hell because I refuse to lose or let my kids lose we simply train harder know more and want it more ,come and do something about it if you want I will show you a loser that always wins ........that's a fact

Do you have no shame. You got kicked out of Moeller because of you, got run off by Reading, Please stop. We know your boys are very good. You don't have to remind us on every topic. I wish the best for boy the Meyer boys, but when you speak I want to see both of them to counting the lights. Enough is enough. Sounds like you want to put on the singlet and wrestle. Good luck to Grant county and your boys, they are great wrestlers. Period. Enough said.

OK I just can't resist. I apologize to my parents, teachers, and coaches but I just have to do this even though I know it is wrong and if I did this during wrestling season when I wrestled I would be running until the cows come home.

BUUUUUTTTT.

I quote "My kids will win state go to college and kick ___ there as well because its they were made for and what we live for"

This statement may be the sorriest thing I have heard on here. Who lives their life for a sport? We all love the sport of wrestling, but I definitely don't live for the sport. It sure won't put food on the table or clothes on my back.

I may one day wish that my son's are state champs and more, and it may be nice to be as good as Stephen (I have not seen Austin) I definitely would not sacrifice my kids family and friends to accomplish this. Moving schools 3 or 4 times in 4 years is not healthy, no matter how you look at it. (Socially, economically, physically, and definitely educationally) All of these suffer from moves so often. I would much prefer my kids to be socially adept and have a great education, than for them to be a 4 time state champion and a national champion.

A couple of places where you are grossly mistaken are about how Moe and Reading feel. I'm sure that having a national championship team would be wonderful but truth is they probably could care less. Especially the Board of Education. The more important thing to them is to have a team that is humble, modest, and a good sport. All of which you (maybe not your kids) lack. I for one would trade a nationally ranked kid for an average kid who is humble and a good sport any day of the week. Championships are great but when other teams and coaches recognize that your team has class on and off the mat (field, court) means much, much more.

As for being a winner at all that you do. No sir you are not. You do not win at Modesty, humility, at being Humble and more than anything else Charisma.

I know that a person should not cast stones when they live in a glass house. I'm not sure I live in a glass house, it may be plexi-glass because I am nowhere near perfect. Once again sorry mom, dad, and coach. I'll start running my laps tomorrow, at my age it may take a while.

Well said CCWrestler! I think you have said what many people on here have wanted to say! When Harrison Courtney was on his way to earning his 4th state championship, I don't remember his mom or dad being on here tooting his horn. I don't remeber it with the Stark family either, but I am getting old! The Ervins aren't on here tooting their horns either. Mr. NKY3X needs to take some lessons in humility and humbleness from the parents of a few of the great Kentucky wrestlers from the past and present!

Who lives their live for a sport?

An Athlete ,you wake up with it on your mind it never leaves your thoughts for a second you do everything you can 24/7 to make it happen then you never give up till you have won .

All this talk about not being modest or humble when half the state is out to see a kid get beat before a word has been said or they even know him or his dear old dad or the first thing about them ,because he and his brother were champs somewhere else not playing anymore games or being fake every coach out there knows its true knock of an oh stud and be a hero,well

Good luck with that and when I meet someone who has paid the dues I have for myself and my family to achieve our goals in various sports I would humbly apologise .but that person isn't anyone who would bother talking smack on a message board if he exists at all.

Walk a mile in our shoes ,not hardly no one could carry the load on our backs .

You people know nothing about us and all I'm concerned about anyone knowing is " winning is everything " everything else is distraction or board games at best.

Funny the Moeller coaches contacted me tonight as they often do always an open spot or two I have been told .

Anyone foolish enough to judge anyone from words on a message board isn't smart enough to know what it means to be a good wrestler and hasn't a chance in hell of having anything to do with coming remotely close to beating kids like mine.I don't care how mr thhis handled hs buisness he certainly is not me and has not done what I have done and his kids haven't done smack compared to mine so good for them .now shut the hell up and try to beat us or are you clowns going to try to talk us to death

Extreme narcissism...is an egotistical preoccupation with self, personal preferences, aspirations, needs, success, and how he/she is perceived by others.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life or to anyone they meet. Indviduals with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes.

And what's your point ,I have met the two most widely known athletes on the planet and learned from them as well as many others and although it was against my nature in the beginning I understood their tactics and the reasons and power behind them trying to use some of what I was told and when you back your hype its not hype anymore its history .as in state titles and undefeated seasons AA plaques and college scholarships ,

Argue with me till your head pops off I will still be the one laughing when its all over our goals have already been met for the most part everything else is icing ,

Please stop with the so and sos didn't do it this way .of course they didn't ,and any day you want to compare records and accomplishments between them and my boys let me know I will educate you fast with a bunch of egotistical facts that seperate the grant cty bros from the rest.starting with where they did it and who they did it and who they did it against .

Oh I am sorry. I stand corrected. MrNky. you are a lucky man. A lucky man indeed. If only I could be more like you and have a life such as yours. To only have to worry about my sons athletic accomplishments and nothing else in life must be blissful.

Can you imagine (I can't) being able to worry about an inconsequential thing such as a high school sport, and not have to worry about anything else in life. Wow. Y'know my youngest was the checker board champion at his school. As a 4th grader he defeated all the kids in his school (even the 6th graders). Maybe i should really work on this. He could be a nationally ranked checkerboard king. If I work extremely hard I could even alienate him and my entire family from the rest of the world. Then I could blame the world for all the negativity toward myself and my family. Yes, yes that is the answer.

I'm gone people. out to follow the great adventures of checkerboard championships.

Your the one doing all the talking! Oh and Moeller didn't call either quit making things up. Who are you trying to convince? Us or You.

I must interject here on two things. I removed one topic and restarted it because it was destroyed by all of the talk about everything but the topic. I am going to start another one that will be open to be destroyed on its own....look for it soon.

Mr. Myers....you are wrong in your statement that all of Kentucky wants to see your kids get beat before anyone knew them. I was very intrigued by their past performances so I did my himework and will say that they are very accomplished. The only reason SOME people in Kentucky want to see them get beat has been started by the constant bickering overing their accomplishments, where they are from, and where they are going.

As a coach and wrestler from Kentucky I would like to remind you that an excellent young man and wrestler from Michigan moved here last year for the opportunity to wrestle against High School competition while he is in middle school. Many people got on here and talked about how he would walk through Kentucky because it is Kentucky. I personally witnessed this young man wrestle in 3 very tough matches in Kentucky, one being the state finals that he lost. This young man handled himself with total character and class in his loss. Now I am in no way comparing your boys or anyone else to Mark Hall. Respect is earned not given....or taken.

Coach McCoy thanks for trying to be civil but you are wrong I never said all of KY I said half and that was me being optimistic.please read my post again.thanks

As for the Moeller comments actually yes my sons were headed back to Moe it was cleared by their AD long ago and yes their coaches have contacted me quite often even today as a matter of fact, of course I have the incoming calls in my phone hahah but a holes seem to not be interested in facts ,,

The truth is I have not downed or harassed anyone who has not done so to me first and I have not lied about anything ,

There is not a school in Ohio that wouldn't want my boys in it .they are good humble hard working athletes who are great students as well because they were raised that way ,so don't be ignorant enough to think any school would not want them because of an over zealous dad ,hahah and yes I actually think the best wrestler in all ky is a fresh and he will prove it before he's done win or lose as a fresh or not ,ask his coach or any who have evercoached him including about 5 ncaa All Americans and some of the best wrestlers and coaches on the planet ,they would agree with me with a smile on their face and a comment or two about me but nontheless they would all agree,

Let the fun begin

And. I know Hall probably better than most in KY quit using him as a yardstick he was a 7th grader wrestling up so Rushell would have a spot on the team for christ sake and everyone knows it so its ridiculous how he manhandled everyone In KY and my boys may wrestle up a bit but they are not 7th graders and if mark had stayed he would have been easily the best ky wrestler ever Fact ,but now its going to be ......you willl see

Your the one doing all the talking! Oh and Moeller didn't call either quit making things up. Who are you trying to convince? Us or You.

Actually 4 times in 2 days and how much would you like to bet has been neverwas wannabe who cares ,you know nothing about any of of us ,not that it matters hide behind your username and make idiotic statements and degrading remarks who cares ,and watch as my. Boys rake up the biggest point / pin total ever in the state .

That d@m# Charisma comment really hurts !!!!!!

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Shaking my head. I wave my white flag.

Me too ,hope all the kids have a fun and safe year .good luck and looking forward to Team Ky next yr in Fargo!!!

Referring back to Mark Hall, for your information Mr. NKY, he didn't completely destroy the state of KY but he did do quite a bit of damage. If he would of have destroyed than he would of been a state champ his 7th grade year instead of Myron Bradbury.

Argue with me till your head pops off I will still be the one laughing when its all over our goals have already been met for the most part everything else is icing ,

I think this is a spot where the old saying...."Arguing with a fool only proves there are two". Now, back to what this thread was intended for......rankings! Anyone have anything new to add to that. I can say we scrimmaged against Central today and Omar Jarvis is going to have a legit shot at a state title. Shoulder looks strong and he's improved a ton.

I think it will be interesting to see where everyone lands with the new weight classes on the 19th at the Lafayette scrimmage. Anyone know of any big shake ups out there?

Well I tried to get the thread back on topic, oh well!

What about 106-113 we haven't heard any talk of them

Mark is a good friend of mine and he wrestled up and did very very well ,why is everyone downing him for Losing 1 match to a kid who is in college now????

And Austin is the #1 ranked freshman in the nation at 195lbs coming in at 11 for fresh and soph most would agree he should be higher he can handle some in the top 5 !!!but hey hes only a fresh,

Fool .........I hardly think so , i think someone knows a bit about wrestling, how many times have you seen two brothers ranked top three in their class and weight in KY in the nation or elsewhere for that matter ?.........thats what i thought.......,we are ready are you.............???????????

SuperS1

Agreed Mark Hall is a great kid. Unfortunately, to some, it was the circumstances behind his situation rather than the person himself that some people disliked which was a shame. I never knew the kid to act with anything but class.

As far as seeing brothers ranked top 3 in their weight class in Kentucky, I've seen it numerous times albeit in separate years. I've seen it more than a few times in the same year as well (Please see Richard and Will Starks 2005-06 for starters) so it's not new or unprecedented. As far as the fool comment, it was never intended to "doubt" someone's wrestling intelligence or acumen, but rather the way they carry themselves. Believe it or not, some of us Kentucky hilljacks do know a few things about wrestling as well.

I'm assuming the above post was made by one of the little Meyers. If not, I apologize but if so, I wish you nothing but the best this year. I hope that you achieve all that you set out to do. I hope that you represent yourself, your family, your school and state well which by the way includes humility and sportsmanship not just results on the mat.

On a side note, congrats to John Fahy on his committment to the University of Illinois. It was definitely well deserved and earned.

Wasn't Caleb and Issac Ervin both state champs in the same year, along with Luke Ervin their first cousin winning it at well?

BTW, Congrats John! Good Luck at Illinois.

Read my post ,I said top 3 in their class and weight in KY in the nation meaning from KY ranked top 3 in the nation in their weight and class so I doubt there has been many if any ,I doubt there have been many in any state but keep downplaying I'm sure its motivational

Congrats Austin Myers wrestling USA magazines # 1 ranked freshman in the nation at 195 lbs ,well done and well deserved go for 4

SuperS1 you should try to word your comments differently than what you have. If not we might think that you are just Mr Meyers trying to make it look like he is someone else, that thinks we want to here the same stuff over and over and over. But we know you are not him because that would be highly embarrassing.

As for the Meyers boys it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to be where you are. Congrats.

Ok back to rankings info. It's looking like elijah miller will compete at a solid 182 this year. He has added a lot of muscle since last year. Ryan sowder will move to 171 for the eagles and will have a shot at the state title. Scott lost Matt Severn to Boone, but still has Brandon Robbins. It's shaping up for them to have a decent team with some new talent and some kids who have really improved.

Funny i don't recall saying who i was or wasn't and have not lied or been asked about who i am and for the last time its Myers no e before the y and its Stephen not Steven .............

connor wilkerson isnt wrestling 106 so should he be ranked top 5 at 112? and cameron bryant took third at ms state last year should he be ranked at 126?

Back on topic: I would think most teams will do their 'fat test" in the next week or two and then hopefully we can see where the interesting matchups are likely to be

SuperS1, what weight do you see Stephen going for State? I am thinking starting out at 145 then going 138 after Christmas.

Yeah 145 then 138 ,I'm sorry but the fat test using a handheld bodyfat tester is ridiculous and an insult to the state and sport its not even close to accurate and anyone believing it is accurate needs. Help you have to be kidding me lmao

Not all places use the hand held manual test.

I can tell you from experience the handheld body fat test is terrible. In college they used the body calipers and I gained 9% body fat from my senior year

Yes i have seen heavy as in big muscled people get tested over 20% when they were well under 7 its a joke and is in no way accurate!!!

_{Now that we have the body fat tests in Ranger, and you have seen some of our boys wrestle..... It is about time for a new update. And the girl from last year in the red is not cutting down to 138. She is set at 145. She said she is only wrestling in montgomery again this year...}

_{Now that we have the body fat tests in Ranger, and you have seen some of our boys wrestle..... It is about time for a new update. And the girl from last year in the red is not cutting down to 138. She is set at 145. She said she is only wrestling in montgomery again this year...}

Working on it

For Moore, Edwin Padilla is out of the line up, Jason hall will be at 113 after christmas, at 120 we have bobby poynter who took 4th at middle school state and is recently coming off of a major decision over st.x Max Korfage, Jesus Rosado will be at 126, Mike lester will be at 138, Mikey smith will be at 145, Kenneth Keller will be at 160, Sam Willbanks at 170, and Justin Mcdaniel at 182.

team dual rankings should be shooken up with the results ive seen from both north oldham and moore

For Moore, Edwin Padilla is out of the line up, Jason hall will be at 113 after christmas, at 120 we have bobby poynter who took 4th at middle school state and is recently coming off of a major decision over st.x Max Korfage, Jesus Rosado will be at 126, Mike lester will be at 138, Mikey smith will be at 145, Kenneth Keller will be at 160, Sam Willbanks at 170, and Justin Mcdaniel at 182.

fat test says Lester can't go 138.

A couple of things:

You can remove Richard Cote (North Hardin) from the 152 class and Abraham Perez (Fort Knox) from 132. Neither are in this state anymore.

fat test says Lester can't go 138.

That is rather odd, because he is weighing in at about 138-139 in practice without cutting, and he still has a bit of fat on him, there must be some sort of flaw in the body fat test.

Correction. Test says he can go 138 after Christmas.

Ill be the one to say I don't like the body fat system. Is there any other way we could do it in the future?

For Moore, Edwin Padilla is out of the line up, Jason hall will be at 113 after christmas, at 120 we have bobby poynter who took 4th at middle school state and is recently coming off of a major decision over st.x Max Korfage, Jesus Rosado will be at 126, Mike lester will be at 138, Mikey smith will be at 145, Kenneth Keller will be at 160, Sam Willbanks at 170, and Justin Mcdaniel at 182.

152 will be keith bray

With the bodyfat testing over shouldn't the rankings. Be changed?

I believe Ranger said he was working on it.

Working on it

Ok, so I watched some wrestling last night in Newport (Newport, Grant Co, Cooper and Boone) and I have to say that there was some good wrestling and there was some room for improvement. I will have to say that Mr NKY3x, Super S1 and or Mr Meyer shouldn't have to talk for his boys in any way shape or form. I watched them and they handled themselves in a very humble manner, wrestled hard and took it to the kids that they wrestled. They are very slick and they control their matches from the first whistle. I can only see a few kids challenge them in KY all year. I will have to say that there weren't any incidents with Mr Meyer or were there a need to be. I'm confused that all of this talk from him on this site is really neccessary given the way the boys wrestle and how technically sound they are. I am not on the Mr. Meyer bandwagon by any means and don't condone some of the things we have read, but these boys are the real deal at whatever weight they choose to wrestle. Great job boys.

I was impressed to see that in the 2nd season, GC has picked up there game from last year and wrestled hard in every match until the whistle blew. I am not only talking about the Meyer boys, but the other boys did a wrestled well also. Great job!

Newport has some good numbers finally and they have a few wrestlers that can bring it that have been around for a while.

Boone has a lot better numbers than in the past also and I saw some improved wrestling with those boys.

Cooper with the loss of the Caddell boys and a few others are going to be scappy at spots, but will be mainly building for the future.

All in all...good night of wrestling for all

For Moore, Edwin Padilla is out of the line up, Jason hall will be at 113 after christmas, at 120 we have bobby poynter who took 4th at middle school state and is recently coming off of a major decision over st.x Max Korfage, Jesus Rosado will be at 126, Mike lester will be at 138, Mikey smith will be at 145, Kenneth Keller will be at 160, Sam Willbanks at 170, and Justin Mcdaniel at 182.

Anything of note about these guys?

Anything of note about these guys?

bobby poynter went 5-0,jesus went 5-0,mike lester went 3-2,,smith went 3-2 ,keller went 3-2 with a good match against noah of st.x at 170 and a loss from scott's ryan sowder ..............willbanks went 5-0 with a quick pin vs. st.x at 182........, justin mcdaniel did not wrestle this past weekend,and 2 other notable wrestlers are daylon whaley who went 4-1 only loss came from st.x at 220, and logan durham at 195 went 4-1 with only a loss from st.x..........................also jason hall went 5-0 with a win over st.x

bobby poynter went 5-0,jesus went 5-0,mike lester went 3-2,,smith went 3-2 ,keller went 3-2 with a good match against noah of st.x at 170 and a loss from scott's ryan sowder ..............willbanks went 5-0 with a quick pin vs. st.x at 182........, justin mcdaniel did not wrestle this past weekend,and 2 other notable wrestlers are daylon whaley who went 4-1 only loss came from st.x at 220, and logan durham at 195 went 4-1 with only a loss from st.x..........................also jason hall went 4-1 with a win over st.x

Which tournament/duel was this at?

Which tournament/duel was this at?

Big Brother Duels at Moore last weekend.

logan durham pinned the kid from st.x and lost to a kid from montgomery county

logan durham pinned the kid from st.x and lost to a kid from montgomery county

my bad...

I wanted to acknowledge Brock Moore today from Dupont Manuel. I never noticed or watched him until this weekend. He looked very solid when he pinned Wade Willen. The score was 0-0 until Moore hit a beautiful double leg and cradled Willen and stuck him. Not sure if Wade was making the jump up a weight class to wrestle Moore, but I'm just saying that Brock will make some waves at 138 and more if he drops to 132. Good luck to all.

Moore was at 132 for the Walton Verona Bearcat Brawl (nice duals tournament), and I'm pretty sure that Willen was, too. Willen had wrestled up at 138 to wrestle Montgomery County who didn't have a 132.