Match Summary CACO RYLE 106 Logan Erdman (Ryle) won by pin over Brad Krebs (Campbell County) 4:55. 0 6.00 113 Jacob Erdman (Ryle) won by major decision over Stephen Maggard (Campbell County) 9-0. 0 4.00 120 Garth Yenter (Campbell County) won by pin over Gus Adams (Ryle) 1:07. 6.00 0 126 Sean Fausz (Campbell County) won by tech fall over Keegan North (Ryle) 4:00 18-3. 5.00 0 132 Timothy Ruschell (Ryle) won by pin over Adam Powers (Campbell County) 2:38. 0 6.00 138 Corey Ahern (Ryle) won by major decision over Corbin Woods (Campbell County) 11-3. 0 4.00 145 Paul Hamilton (Campbell County) won by major decision over Jon Belk (Ryle) 15-5. 4.00 0 152 Kent Bachman (Campbell County) won by pin over Vince Napolitano (Ryle) 5:49. 6.00 0 160 Dustin Turner (Campbell County) won by pin over Ryan Woolf (Ryle) 1:43. 6.00 0 170 Elisiah Matthews (Campbell County) won by pin over Sydney Smith (Ryle) 0:12. 6.00 0 182 Brett Keeton (Campbell County) won by decision over Lee Craven (Ryle) 10-7. 3.00 0 195 Jake Adams (Ryle) won by pin over Jordan Mason (Campbell County) 3:25. 0 6.00 220 Jacob Williamson (Ryle) won by pin over Michael Moore (Campbell County) 2:05. 0 6.00 285 Brad Weber (Ryle) won by pin over Cody Annis (Campbell County) 3:00. 0 6.00 Dual Meet Score CACO 36.0 RYLE 38.0

Myers /Hollin..that was a great match that launched the freshman straight into the #1 spot at 195 .

Seriously it was an awesome match even though it was one sided scoring wise.

And speaking of Rankings ,Ryle just beat Campbell County in their Dual even though both looked like they were missing some hitters very close came down to the Heavy match.

I agreee that the CC-Ryle match was a close one, but the only one I saw missing from the line up...that is actually on the team, was Meiman. Can't imagine who you'd be referring to.

I agreee that the CC-Ryle match was a close one, but the only one I saw missing from the line up...that is actually on the team, was Meiman. Can't imagine who you'd be referring to.

Meiman, Dorne, Maines..................................Meyers, Meyers (just kidding)

CC- franke (woulda changed the whole outcome), collins

I left those two out...Dorne and Maines. What weight do they wrestle?

CC- franke (woulda changed the whole outcome), collins

You would have changed the out come also....Pin vs Major (6 pts vs 4pts). You might not want to leave that only one person to accomplish what it takes a whole team to do. Do what your expected to do and the results will speak for themselves. Just saying, You'll learn.

your acting like i didnt try to?

Oh, you tried, but trying some times isn't good enough. Case in point: Your heavy tried to win the match for your entire team, but it just wasn't enough. Follow me? Can't put it only on one person.

CC- franke (woulda changed the whole outcome), collins

I was simply stating that having a state runner up in might have helped us... not that our heavy didn't try his best

I left those two out...Dorne and Maines. What weight do they wrestle?

I also left out Sanders. Maines is typically at 220. The upper weights are constantly being shuffled, Dorne falls somewhere between 160- and 184

Sounds like this was a pretty exciting dual meet. That being said, when I read the results, this is how I pictured the 220 match:

I was simply stating that having a state runner up in might have helped us... not that our heavy didn't try his best

There is no doubt Frank would have helped you...and he will when he is able to, but I'm saying that you pinning Belk would have helped your team because you were possibly able to at the time of the match. A little different. Now, when Frank is back and everyone his healthy and present than we can have this debate again. You are a pretty confident wrestler. If you don't feel you could have done more to help your team score more points then that's ok...in my mind.

There is no doubt Frank would have helped you...and he will when he is able to, but I'm saying that you pinning Belk would have helped your team because you were possibly able to at the time of the match. A little different. Now, when Frank is back and everyone his healthy and present than we can have this debate again. You are a pretty confident wrestler. If you don't feel you could have done more to help your team score more points then that's ok...in my mind.

Clearly he wasn't able to pin Belk last night. It's not like he wasn't tying to. I think that was a pivitol match, bumping the freshman up two weights to face a defending state placer. Belk keeping the match to 10 points was a great performance.

You see.... You almost had me. ALMOST till the end there....

I weighed in at 142.7 belk weighed in at like 138.1 I saw it... it wasn't a big weight advantage

As far as Ryle/Campbell Co. goes it should get done again in the duels. It's safe to assume that some kids from both teams will be down to different wetght classes., injuries will be healed, the ones on "academic vacation" will be back ect. Who knoows how it will go then. Ryle at SWOWCA this weekend and Dayton Holiday next week

Oh, you tried, but trying some times isn't good enough. Case in point: Your heavy tried to win the match for your entire team, but it just wasn't enough. Follow me? Can't put it only on one person.

You would have changed the out come also....Pin vs Major (6 pts vs 4pts). You might not want to leave that only one person to accomplish what it takes a whole team to do. Do what your expected to do and the results will speak for themselves. Just saying, You'll learn.

SuperS1 - Read back a few posts to get the complete gist of our debate. I didn't put the CC loss to Ryle on paulham, just merely pointing out to him that it takes more than just adding Franke to the mix would have changed the outcome of the match. You might think it's rediculous because you might not have the whole story...imagine that.

Clearly he wasn't able to pin Belk last night. It's not like he wasn't tying to. I think that was a pivitol match, bumping the freshman up two weights to face a defending state placer. Belk keeping the match to 10 points was a great performance.

Raider - i was thinking the same thing. Belk did a great job keeping the match as close as he did. He did what he was supposed to do...not get tech'd or pinned. He helped his team keep some points off the board. Kudo's to Belk.

What I saw Wed. was a Ryle team that was there to win, and a Campbell team that was trying not to lose.

You could see that the campbell kids were tentative in their moves and were not taking many chances. I piont to the experienced kids for this.

I saw Ryle kids who knew they were outclassed trying their best to help the team by keeping the score close.

I also saw the Ryle team pumped up for the match hooping and hollering while the Campbell kids were sitting on the chairs not rooting thier team on with enthusiasm. (sp)

If Campbell thinks they have a shot at the State tourney they had better turn it up a couple of notches.

4:49 PM ,everyone is wrestling but you and your are sitting at your computer giving advice ??

Not advice ,and I do not wrestle I train "Lift"haha and you what is it you do hide behind false usernames meant to imply to the masses that you are some sort of athlete or that you lift hahah more likely a failure who hides behind a name made solely to attack someone who knows so much more about what you wish you could be that you must down that person on a message board.

You shouldn't talk about other people being failures. You failed your kids because now they can't wrestle. They have to miss out on competition because of your annoying attitude and constantly running mouth. You're also a failure at typing.

Did anyone see Ruschell's hair flopping and his face turning red when he was yelling "we do not lose to this team". Then lying down on the mat screaming and slapping the mat like he was the one calling the heavy weight match. I understand being intense and wanting your team to win, but my goodness show some class. Win with dignity and lose with dignity. I also cannot stand when a wrestler losses then pouts and rants like the CC heavy did, if he were on my team, he would be GONE!!!!!

Did anyone see Ruschell's hair flopping and his face turning red when he was yelling "we do not lose to this team". Then lying down on the mat screaming and slapping the mat like he was the one calling the heavy weight match. I understand being intense and wanting your team to win, but my goodness show some class. Win with dignity and lose with dignity. I also cannot stand when a wrestler losses then pouts and rants like the CC heavy did, if he were on my team, he would be GONE!!!!!

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

Were you at the dual? Between the 220 and Heavy match he was yelling "we do not lose to this team". Then during the heavy match he was lying on his stomach slapping the mat and yelling. I might be a little senial in my old age, but that is what I witnessed. Unless my eyes and ears are completely shot who knows. Anyone back me on this or am I wrong?!?!?!?!

Were you at the dual? Between the 220 and Heavy match he was yelling "we do not lose to this team". Then during the heavy match he was lying on his stomach slapping the mat and yelling. I might be a little senial in my old age, but that is what I witnessed. Unless my eyes and ears are completely shot who knows. Anyone back me on this or am I wrong?!?!?!?!

I couldn't hear what he was saying, but what I saw was passion and heart. (And that passion and heart was contagious on the Raider bench that night!) And that is obviously what his wrestler needed.....someone to believe in him and make him dig a little deeper to push himself farther than he thought he could go. I see nothing wrong with that.

DuperS1 , it is YOUR fault

not the coach,not the school,not everyone

It was your fault the last 4 years,this year and probably next year.

I couldn't hear what he was saying, but what I saw was passion and heart. (And that passion and heart was contagious on the Raider bench that night!) And that is obviously what his wrestler needed.....someone to believe in him and make him dig a little deeper to push himself farther than he thought he could go. I see nothing wrong with that.

What I saw was an out of control coach who needs to learn where he belongs during a match (in the chair in the corner), instead of on his stomach slapping the mat. I do agree that the team did an awesome job and deserved the win, but like previously stated show some class COACH!!!

What I saw was an out of control coach who needs to learn where he belongs during a match (in the chair in the corner), instead of on his stomach slapping the mat. I do agree that the team did an awesome job and deserved the win, but like previously stated show some class COACH!!!

We can agree to disagree. I am glad that he has that kind of spirit and I am grateful that my son is on a team that he leads.

Speaking of class, how about Campbell Co. wrestlers &coaches snickering when Ryle sent a girl out to wrestle

I think what you saw wed. was exactly what you get at each school.

You see two different philosophies of coaching.

Ryle (Ruschell) Animated in your face, win at all cost.

Campbell (Bankemper) Composed, business like, Winning is nice but respect and sportsmanship is most important.

If you like a coach who is in your face and screaming then Ryle is your place.

If you like a coach that teaches you to think for yourself and make your own decision then Campbell is your choice.

I would also point out that when campbell leaves a gym either home or away coach bankemper makes his wrestlers clean the stands where they were sitting. All garbage even trash that was not theirs but still in their area. They don't leave until all is cleaned up.

I'm not saying ruschell may not make his team clean up, but I see him giving punishment in practice for leaving a mess instead of staying and cleaning it up.

I don't know which is better but it adds to the different styles of coaching.

Speaking of class, how about Campbell Co. wrestlers &coaches snickering when Ryle sent a girl out to wrestle

Unfortunately this is one of Bankempers faults. He doesn't like girls on the wrestling team, even when he had one on his own team.

Everyone has a fault.

What I saw was an out of control coach who needs to learn where he belongs during a match (in the chair in the corner), instead of on his stomach slapping the mat. I do agree that the team did an awesome job and deserved the win, but like previously stated show some class COACH!!!

Figure4,

Have you ever seen Dan Gable coach? Would you say he has "no class" for his passion and antics on the side of the mat? If so, you don't belong in the sport of wrestling.

_{I have tremendous respect for both coaches. They may have different styles but it works for their teams / wrestlers as shown by their past and recent success.}

_{Super S1,}

_{I've learned over time that there are two sides to every story and even though those stories are more than likely on opposite ends of the spectrum, the truth is more often than not somewhere in between. I hope your sons get to wrestle again soon whether it be in KY, OH or wherever. It's tough to keep the #1 ranking as the top freshman in the country if indeed you don't wrestle. I'd also appreciate it if you would refrain from calling KY a second rate wrestling state. No, we aren't OH or what you're use to, but there are some good coaches in this state who work very hard to teach their kids not only how to be a better wrestler but also how to be a better individual in general. They nor the wrestlers / kids who compete in this state deserve to be called second rate no matter how upset you may be with certain coaches or a certain school.}

Figure4,

Have you ever seen Dan Gable coach? Would you say he has "no class" for his passion and antics on the side of the mat? If so, you don't belong in the sport of wrestling.

Different level! Different expectations! College wrestlers are paid atheletes (most scholarships) who are expected to perform, college coaches are dealing with adults! This disagreement is over. You have your opinion I have mine, neither is wrong or right, I just pointed out what I saw and heard. Thanks for the feedback and good luck to both coaches and teams.

^{Different level! Different expectations! College wrestlers are paid atheletes (most scholarships) who are expected to perform, college coaches are dealing with adults! This disagreement is over. You have your opinion I have mine, neither is wrong or right, I just pointed out what I saw and heard. Thanks for the feedback and good luck to both coaches and teams.}

^{Ok...well have you ever seen Coach Carr from Woodford County coach a match? I have witnessed Coach Carr do things on the side of the mat that should have resulted in his ejection from the tournament. However, I would say Coach Carr is probably one of the best people I ever met in the sport of wrestling. Furthermore, I would argue there is more at stake in high school wrestling than college wrestling if you want to take it to the next level. You earn your scholarship to college from what you do in high school. Next time you have an "opinion" that someone you probably don't know has no class, I suggest you keep it to yourself.}

Sounds to me like a little sour grapes. Relax, it's just one dual. Both programs are very good and both coaches are class acts. For anyone to suggest Coach Ruschelle is not, obviously doesn't know the man. He has a great passion for the sport and for his kids...and yes a competitive fire, which is one of the reasons he's been so successful. I have been following Ryle's wrestling program for about ten years and never have I seen something where I said "wow that was out of line". It's just ignorant to suggest otherwise.

^{Ok...well have you ever seen Coach Carr from Woodford County coach a match? I have witnessed Coach Carr do things on the side of the mat that should have resulted in his ejection from the tournament. However, I would say Coach Carr is probably one of the best people I ever met in the sport of wrestling. Furthermore, I would argue there is more at stake in high school wrestling than college wrestling if you want to take it to the next level. You earn your scholarship to college from what you do in high school. Next time you have an "opinion" that someone you probably don't know has no class, I suggest you keep it to yourself.}

I in no way said that Ruschell was classless away from the mat or coaching. I think highly of him as a person. I know he must be a great father and coach because of the way his children and atheletes represent themselves. As for this forum, I believe the thread is Campbell County - Ryle Dual, and no where does Woodford County or the Carrs fall under that category. Next time you jump to conclusions and put your two cents in, maybe you should head your own advice! Thanks

Figure4,

You just don't get it. YOU were the one who suggested Coach Ruschell needed to show some class by acting the way YOU want him to during the match. I am merely comparing Coach Ruschell's antics to two other well respected and very successful coaches to offer examples to help you realize how off base your "class" comment was. I have been around NKY wrestling for a long, long time. It is no secret that coach Ruschell and Bankamper have different styles. You may prefer one over the other, but, both styles work and both men have a ton of class. That's why I am compelled to defend Coach Ruschell to you or anyone else who thinks its appropriate to publicly claim otherwise. I would respond the same way if someone made the same comment about Coach B. My only assumption is that you don't personally know Coach Ruschell which is why you would make such an erroneous comment.

Raidercoach, I have to agree with you on this one. Different Coaches have different styles. Kids react to to different styles. You have to do what fits you and your program. Coach Bankemper has obviously been successful with his style as has Coach Ruschelle. I see nothing wrong with either. Personally, I like the in your face coaching style, but that doesn't make it any better or worse than any other style. Figure4, we know this thread is about the CC/Rule dual, but when questioning a man's integrity and or class, let's be reasonable. As a UK fan, I love the passion Coach Cal brings to the table. Some may question his class, I just call him a winner.

SuperS1

Your antics are hilarious and addicting to read. It's like watching a reality show, everyone is so far from the actual reality that they live in their own world. Everything you write on here is insanely stupid, you burn every bridge that you have ever crossed and most other places you want to go. It is sad that your kids are sitting out but hey that's your fault, instead of bad mouthing the coach you should be working things out in a calm manner and kissing his a.. because he's your only option at wrestling in KY..... Wait what am I doing, you can't tell this guy anything, just wasting my time. Anyways, I just wanted to say thanks for the entertainment and I hope you find a way to manipulate the system once again to get your kids back on the mat because they truly are the real deal.

DuperD1, we have heard this story over and over.It's getting boring.No one believed the story the first time,no one believes the story now, no one.

KY Wrestling Coaches, why are we letting this dad put down our KY wrestling coach like this? It is time to stand up to this guy and for our coach who has started a new wrestling program .This coach has put in a lot of time year around for this team and has built a pretty good team.

Grant Co. School, good job standing up for your coach.

Grant Co. Wrestling coach, do not let one dad DuperD1 bring you down.You have and are doing a good job.

Kentuckywrestling.com webmaster , it is now time to delete each and everyone of DuperD1 post and delete future post just as yappi forum does.

DuperD1, go back to OH,or just go away.

Have been out of the loop lately but good to see the RYLE CAMPBELL COUNTY love/hate relationship still strong as ever! Throw in Simon Kenton & Walton Verona (Dixie & Scott has some studs) and REGIONALS SHOULD BE ROCKIN this year!

By far the hardest region in the state

Man, all of this negative discussion is so hurtful. I think we should just ask Coach Ruschell to wear a tie to conference and Coach B to scream a little more. That way we won't have to have this discussion again.

Seriously, both coaches and Coach Carr are outstanding coaches, each with a long history of success. I do great impressions of all 3. I hope some day I'm a good enough coach that people all around the state have watched me coach big matches and can do impressions of me. Note, I do a pretty good Steve Kaiser impression as well.

Coach G, can you do Dave Barnes?

Sorry, no Dave Barnes.... I lack the ears for it.

That's even better. Have a Merry Christmas!

Awesome!

DuperD1, we have heard this story over and over.It's getting boring.No one believed the story the first time,no one believes the story now, no one.

KY Wrestling Coaches, why are we letting this dad put down our KY wrestling coach like this? It is time to stand up to this guy and for our coach who has started a new wrestling program .This coach has put in a lot of time year around for this team and has built a pretty good team.

Grant Co. School, good job standing up for your coach.

Grant Co. Wrestling coach, do not let one dad DuperD1 bring you down.You have and are doing a good job.

Kentuckywrestling.com webmaster , it is now time to delete each and everyone of DuperD1 post and delete future post just as yappi forum does.

I absolutely agree. From here on...SuperS1...you post I will delete. Any time you change your name and a post looks similar to ones you have done...deleted. I have sit back and seen enough.

I absolutely agree. From here on...SuperS1...you post I will delete. Any time you change your name and a post looks similar to ones you have done...deleted. I have sit back and seen enough.

THANK YOU!

Thanks Chris!

Merry Christmas SuperS1

I absolutely agree. From here on...SuperS1...you post I will delete. Any time you change your name and a post looks similar to ones you have done...deleted. I have sit back and seen enough.

I know that most don't agree but now you're acting like the chinese government. Everyone has the option to ignore anyone they'd like, so if it really bothered you then you'd have done so already. But I guess 1st amendment right must not apply to this forum, how sad. Seen one topic get locked and deleted already pertaining to one particular assistant coach. I'm not saying I agree with everything the man says, but does being arrogant and alot of other words I could use to get myself kicked off, really warrant the action you are taking? Funny how the people who cant stand him are the same ones antagonizing him as if he would'nt respond. Sheesh.........warning, if the powers that be, dont agree.................

For no other reason than his kids, keep him off!

I know that most don't agree but now you're acting like the chinese government. Everyone has the option to ignore anyone they'd like, so if it really bothered you then you'd have done so already. But I guess 1st amendment right must not apply to this forum, how sad. Seen one topic get locked and deleted already pertaining to one particular assistant coach. I'm not saying I agree with everything the man says, but does being arrogant and alot of other words I could use to get myself kicked off, really warrant the action you are taking? Funny how the people who cant stand him are the same ones antagonizing him as if he would'nt respond. Sheesh.........warning, if the powers that be, dont agree.................

I agree

I know that most don't agree but now you're acting like the chinese government. Everyone has the option to ignore anyone they'd like, so if it really bothered you then you'd have done so already. But I guess 1st amendment right must not apply to this forum, how sad. Seen one topic get locked and deleted already pertaining to one particular assistant coach. I'm not saying I agree with everything the man says, but does being arrogant and alot of other words I could use to get myself kicked off, really warrant the action you are taking? Funny how the people who cant stand him are the same ones antagonizing him as if he would'nt respond. Sheesh.........warning, if the powers that be, dont agree.................

Unfair comparison. That sitaution and this one are totally different.

Unfair comparison. That sitaution and this one are totally different.

Different situation, yes, but same action and principle. Truly to me the other situation actually had more relevance because we should be informed of what is the norm and proper procedure in those situations and how to correctly deal with them. Yes, my son wrestles his own coaches to become better, and yes they woop up on him, but they know to pause and explain what happened or what he could have done to counteract. So with that being said I'm still in the dark as to what was ok or not ok in that other situation because we never got to hear a proper result and decision. This forum should be used to help clear up these type issues as they occur. Here's one for you.....I've seen a wrestler who when another wrestler has a half in and is going for the wrist, will take the other wrestlers hand and push it behind his head making it look as though the wrestler meant to sink in a full, giving himself a point and a fresh start. I've witnessed this wrestler do it several times. So officials I warn you if a wrestler tells you someone is pushing their hand back, take a closer look as the match goes on and if you officiate any more of that wrestlers matches, I will not name anyone but I feel it is an unsportsman like move.

Different situation, yes, but same action and principle. Truly to me the other situation actually had more relevance because we should be informed of what is the norm and proper procedure in those situations and how to correctly deal with them. Yes, my son wrestles his own coaches to become better, and yes they woop up on him, but they know to pause and explain what happened or what he could have done to counteract. So with that being said I'm still in the dark as to what was ok or not ok in that other situation because we never got to hear a proper result and decision. This forum should be used to help clear up these type issues as they occur. Here's one for you.....I've seen a wrestler who when another wrestler has a half in and is going for the wrist, will take the other wrestlers hand and push it behind his head making it look as though the wrestler meant to sink in a full, giving himself a point and a fresh start. I've witnessed this wrestler do it several times. So officials I warn you if a wrestler tells you someone is pushing their hand back, take a closer look as the match goes on and if you officiate any more of that wrestlers matches, I will not name anyone but I feel it is an unsportsman like move.

He has been a repeat offender in trash talking, profanity, baiting, etc., and those are the rules. People that repeatedly break the rules can be put in a special group where a moderator must approve the post first. That should have been done a long time ago.

As for the KHSAA violations, absolutely no talk of that is taken on this board. If you know a violation or would like to file a complaint, then you need to go through the proper channels. That includes issues with coaches, kids eligibility, etc. You can talk about the rules, but no mention of someone breaking the rules.

Honestly that is the best rule on this site.

Different situation, yes, but same action and principle. Truly to me the other situation actually had more relevance because we should be informed of what is the norm and proper procedure in those situations and how to correctly deal with them. Yes, my son wrestles his own coaches to become better, and yes they woop up on him, but they know to pause and explain what happened or what he could have done to counteract. So with that being said I'm still in the dark as to what was ok or not ok in that other situation because we never got to hear a proper result and decision. This forum should be used to help clear up these type issues as they occur. Here's one for you.....I've seen a wrestler who when another wrestler has a half in and is going for the wrist, will take the other wrestlers hand and puIsh it behind his head making it look as though the wrestler meant to sink in a full, giving himself a point and a fresh start. I've witnessed this wrestler do it several times. So officials I warn you if a wrestler tells you someone is pushing their hand back, take a closer look as the match goes on and if you officiate any more of that wrestlers matches, I will not name anyone but I feel it is an unsportsman like move.

On our end of this story, my son has torn back muscles and is out for the season.

He has been a repeat offender in trash talking, profanity, baiting, etc., and those are the rules. People that repeatedly break the rules can be put in a special group where a moderator must approve the post first. That should have been done a long time ago.

As for the KHSAA violations, absolutely no talk of that is taken on this board. If you know a violation or would like to file a complaint, then you need to go through the proper channels. That includes issues with coaches, kids eligibility, etc. You can talk about the rules, but no mention of someone breaking the rules.

Honestly that is the best rule on this site.

The only theads that get any notice on this site are the ones Super posts on. Are you also monitoring all those posters that were instigating his responses or do you only censor the opinions you disagree with?

I will be gald to shed some light on the situation to those who are trying to call me out (mataholic and raider). The coach involved was removed from the program immediately. All of that said, I am done with Kentuckywrestling.com. Mathound, please disable my account effective now. I will let the proper channels know of anything going on or any results I have. Good Luck in Wrestling.

Coach McCoy

The only theads that get any notice on this site are the ones Super posts on. Are you also monitoring all those posters that were instigating his responses or do you only censor the opinions you disagree with?

There were tons of provoking and inappropriate posts that were removed by other members too. They are not repeatedly ignoring the warnings. We obviously don't have time to check every single post. Anyone is free to "report" any post they think is breaking the rules.

Are you kidding me.

We have allowed one person to disrupt this website and all that we have done to make it a decent wrestling forum?

I am dissapointed in many of you. Grow up. As my mamma use to say "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me".

This one poster who has assumed many different names has invaded our forum and said many things that others don't like. Mathound has told us all how to ignore this poster. That way you will not be able to see the posts this person makes. Yet most ignoed this avenue and continued to complain about his posts.

Mathound did what the majority wanted: He banned this persons posts. Maybe not what some like, but what most wanted. (Majority rules).

We have just allowed this person to win. He has outsmarted all of Kentuckywrestling.com. He has turned us against each other and disrupted a peacefull forum. Sound familiar history people. (The evil genius of Hitler)

Now we allow one of our elite to leave the forum. Coach McCoy has done more for wrestling in Ky than most of you will ever think about doing. Most of you will spend your 4-8 years in wrestling while your son(s) wrestle then leave. He has done more than that. I'm not saying you have to like everyone, but respect the accomplishments of the individual. You probably don't know all the details of everything going on.

Use this forum for what it is. A fun way to get information, argue ideologies, coaching startagies, getting tourneament information, and results. And on occation poke some fun at some people.

As for coach McCoy; I hope you don't totally deleate your account and at least answer your PM's. There may be something I need from you or would like to ask you in the future.

As always.

This is the opinion of GOO nothing more nothing less

You can take it or leave it. Doesn't really matter to me

GOO out.

I will be gald to shed some light on the situation to those who are trying to call me out (mataholic and raider). The coach involved was removed from the program immediately. All of that said, I am done with Kentuckywrestling.com. Mathound, please disable my account effective now. I will let the proper channels know of anything going on or any results I have. Good Luck in Wrestling.

Coach McCoy

Just to clarify, I was agreeing meta's opinion about censoring posts. I fall on the other side of the arguement about the young assistant coach. I dont know the whole story, but im dissapointed to hear that he isnt coaching anymore. We need more people involve to continue to grow our sport. Injuries are a part of this sport and sometimes they happen when wrestling coaches. Im sure goo can attest to that. Im sure the coach felt he was doing what he needed to help the wrestler out

He has been a repeat offender in trash talking, profanity, baiting, etc., and those are the rules. People that repeatedly break the rules can be put in a special group where a moderator must approve the post first. That should have been done a long time ago.

As for the KHSAA violations, absolutely no talk of that is taken on this board. If you know a violation or would like to file a complaint, then you need to go through the proper channels. That includes issues with coaches, kids eligibility, etc. You can talk about the rules, but no mention of someone breaking the rules.

Honestly that is the best rule on this site.

My whole issue was with the censorship and the fact that the so called majority were the ones who were inciting him (or baiting him, knowing he's going to bite) with the name calling when they should have put him on their ignore list. I dont recall him using any profanity, but I'm sure I could've missed it because I didnt bother looking at his hundreds of posts. So I guess his major offense would be trash talking. Yes I agree trash taliking is unsportsmanlike but unfortunately it is part of sports, ALI was one of the greatest trash talkers and also one of "The Greatest" sports figures of all time, I just hope the Myers dont have to go to Manilla just to wrestle. As far as the coaching incident, I dont remember picking a side but only using a recent incident to show that I was left in the dark as to proper procedure, we either learn from mistakes or are bound to repeat them. How do we know if something is a violation in the first place if we are not allowed to discuss such isolated incidents? I apologize to Coach McCoy due to the fact that he feels as I was calling him out. But cant we agree to disagree or do I need to censor myself and not have an opinion? I know I have thanked McCoy, Smith and others for their contribution, and I still do. I hope to still recieve e-mails in the off season as to what off season events are going on locally and hope to see the sport grow in the state so that no one can ruffle so many feathers by calling us 2nd rate. Just my opinion, if I'm still allowed to have one. If not then kick me off too.

My whole issue was with the censorship and the fact that the so called majority were the ones who were inciting him (or baiting him, knowing he's going to bite) with the name calling when they should have put him on their ignore list. I dont recall him using any profanity, but I'm sure I could've missed it because I didnt bother looking at his hundreds of posts. So I guess his major offense would be trash talking. Yes I agree trash taliking is unsportsmanlike but unfortunately it is part of sports, ALI was one of the greatest trash talkers and also one of "The Greatest" sports figures of all time, I just hope the Myers dont have to go to Manilla just to wrestle. As far as the coaching incident, I dont remember picking a side but only using a recent incident to show that I was left in the dark as to proper procedure, we either learn from mistakes or are bound to repeat them. How do we know if something is a violation in the first place if we are not allowed to discuss such isolated incidents? I apologize to Coach McCoy due to the fact that he feels as I was calling him out. But cant we agree to disagree or do I need to censor myself and not have an opinion? I know I have thanked McCoy, Smith and others for their contribution, and I still do. I hope to still recieve e-mails in the off season as to what off season events are going on locally and hope to see the sport grow in the state so that no one can ruffle so many feathers by calling us 2nd rate. Just my opinion, if I'm still allowed to have one. If not then kick me off too.

Once there was a KHSAA investigation or report, it was removed. This site does not want to take part in any investigations. The validity of any posts on this forum cannot be confirmed nor denied. That is why any report of violations and investigations are removed. I am sure if you want to know the facts, you can contact the people involved.

It was only removed at that point. Not even 1% of the posts on this site have ever been censored.

Ok, I remember when this was a post about about a great dual between Campbell Co and Ryle