District 4 is posted any other results from the other districts?
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I would love to see some too! Elkhorn ran through District 7, but no individual results.
Distict 1
70 1st kaleb Hammond.
75 1st Micah Ervin 2nd trigg co
80 1st Saul Ervin 2nd Ohio co kid
86 1st Bryce Sheffer 2nd Christian county
92 1st Dylan grey 2nd rylan Ervin
98 1st chance Oxford 2nd Caldwell co
105 1st jeramiah Kline 2nd scott ruttman
113 1stRobert smith 2nd christian co
121 1st Christian co 2nd trigg
1301st Avery Buckman 2nd caldwell
140 1stJackson Oxford
152 1st Hopkinsville kid he was MOW
168 1st Christian co 2nd trigg
190 1st Conner Sherman
230 1st Ohio co
All I can remember but it's a start I guess
Union won
District 6 link only post placers, attached are brackets and team scores.
I don't see Tucker Hurst in District 7. Shame if he didn't wrestle Districts. Bigger shame if his high school coaches were against it.
Looks like Ryan Moore has really made strides this year. Knew it was just a matter of time. Good for him. Looking forward to watching him this weekend.
Just have to say that the weight class drop thing is wrong! U work hard all year and then find that the weight allowance for growing is used to against u to drop down a weight class is just wrong! I am proud of my son for working hard and staying in is weight class when he we asked about dropping down for a better advantage! Kids need to learn to work hard where they r not backing down when they have a challenge,
Just have to say that the weight class drop thing is wrong! U work hard all year and then find that the weight allowance for growing is used to against u to drop down a weight class is just wrong! I am proud of my son for working hard and staying in is weight class when he we asked about dropping down for a better advantage! Kids need to learn to work hard where they r not backing down when they have a challenge,
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I imagine, your kid got beat by another kid that dropped a weight class where his coach, parents and the wrestler felt the he/she would be more competitive. That is wrestling. Kids are going to be where they are the most competitive given what their body can handle. Coaches and parents make this decision because their kids also busted their rump all year and deserve a chance to put themselves in the best postion to compete...just like yours. I would also add that dropping weight or a weight class is not easy and no one takes that decision lightly and it does not guarantee a competitive advantage. If my child gets beat by another kid that dropped a weight class, because he/she could, I would take it with class and know that the other kid did all that they could to make themselves as competetive as they were able to. Train harder and stop complaining!
Just have to say that the weight class drop thing is wrong! U work hard all year and then find that the weight allowance for growing is used to against u to drop down a weight class is just wrong! I am proud of my son for working hard and staying in is weight class when he we asked about dropping down for a better advantage! Kids need to learn to work hard where they r not backing down when they have a challenge,
What are you classifying as "DROP DOWN A WEIGHT CLASS". Do you mean a kid who is 1pound away from the weight class and loses that one pound, or are you talking about kids that are the upper weight in one weight class and drop down to the next one.
To me these are 2 very different things and your blanket statement needs clarification.
Just have to say that the weight class drop thing is wrong! U work hard all year and then find that the weight allowance for growing is used to against u to drop down a weight class is just wrong! I am proud of my son for working hard and staying in is weight class when he we asked about dropping down for a better advantage! Kids need to learn to work hard where they r not backing down when they have a challenge,
I can understand how you feel about this. I can see both sides of the issue. When you have a wrestler that has wrestled in one weight class all year, it is too bad when you see a kid only drop once the weight allowance is in place. I have always understood this to be a growth allowance. If the kid has never made scratch weight but is allowed to weigh in and take advantage of the growth allowance, that is where is see the unfair part of the equation. To me a growth allowance is to help a wrestler that grows during the season. But since the weight certification is no longer in place, to allow an 80lb’er to drop to 77lbs to not fair to a kid that has been at 75lb’s all season. If the kid has made 75lb scratch weight during the season, then sure take the 2lbs and wrestle at 77. But for a kid that has not made it to scratch weight to begin with, then he was never a 75lber to begin with. He is an 80lber wrestling at 77. I too agree that by dropping a weight class it doesn’t guarantee automatic wins. But when talking about the lower weights, for an 80 lb kid to drop 5 lbs is a very big deal, however losing 3lbs is not that big of a drop.
There are a couple of possible fixes to this. 1) Go back to certification. Make scratch, than take the allowances as given. 2) Make a wrestler make scratch weight 4 times and call that the certification. In ether situation, kids are where they should be and no kids should be cutting to much weight. Sure, we all want our kids to be as competitive as possible, but what lessons are we teaching as coaches and parents if we have Middle School kids dropping weight for only the “important” tournaments? Most of us are former wrestlers ourselves, do we want to re-teach the bad habits we were taught way back in the day? I know that is something I don’t want to do. Maybe the difference is some of us have gotten smarter and some of us have not.
Maybe the difference is some of us have gotten smarter and some of us have not.
I'm quite positive that we have all "gotten smarter" since the days that you wrestled. You may want to check your thesaurus again before questioning someones intelligence. Just saying!
Since this discussion seems to be somewhat related to a reference to a kid I am very familiar with, let me clarify a couple things.
#1 - one of the first things I tell parents at the beginning of our season is I will not push a kid to lose any weight; they decide their weight class and tell me, but I expect them to make weight at that point. this is middle school and they shouldn't be pushing those limits, but changing their diets is generally a very good thing for kids in this day.
#2 - the rule is what the rule is; all we can do is follow the guidelines as they have been decided; to say a kid/coach following the rules and competing in a weight class in which they make weight is "unfair" doesn't make much sense; sounds like sour grapes to me.
#3 - I am 100% sure you have little to no idea what is going with the kid in question; as a matter of fact I have seen him step on the scale on a daily basis and can tell you he IS NOT cutting any weight. a number of kids on that team have been wrestling up all season and been very successful. they made the decision as a group to wrestle what they weigh. the kid mentioned above weighed in at 75.8 on Saturday without any cutting (no skipping meals, no extra running, no layered clothes in practice, etc); making scratch weight would not be an issue; in fact, if he really watched his diet (he eats like a horse) and did a little extra work, making 72 would be no problem.
#4 - regarding the "important tournaments", many of these kids take this sport seriously and prepare year round, not just for their own success, but for the success of the entire team, so don't dismiss the possibility that they understand the team aspect of these weight changes and the potential impact it has on team success. they also understand the benefits of competing against the best competition possible throughout the season and doing that should not preclude them from competing at their own weight.
Regrettable, the 70 pounder is the one on the short end of the stick; he has no place to cut to so he can be competitive (my word for ducking the better wrestler). If and 80 pounder slowly cuts to 72 over the season he probably has an advantage or most normal 80 pounders.
Middle school kids don’t have the same growth rate as the high school wrestlers; maybe Middle School wrestlers get just 1 pound growth allowance?
If you wrestle USA or AAU you get NO growth allowance, you make scratch weigh!!!
Losing a pound or two for these little guys got it; losing 5 or more is not smart, understand some individual cases are the extreme.
I'm quite positive that we have all "gotten smarter" since the days that you wrestled. You may want to check your thesaurus again before questioning someones intelligence. Just saying!
If a grammar correction is all you have for an argument, then I guess there is no debate. I never once said anyone was breaking the rules or calling sour grapes. I don’t think it is asking much for a kid to make scratch weight before making the drop down before districts. If a wrestler makes the scratch weight during the regular season, then by all means he deserves the extra weight allowance. If he doesn’t make scratch weight, why give the allowance? If it is not an issue for the kid, than great. What I don’t want to see are kids that are starving themselves like the old days.
I mean that it is always just when districts comes that they decide to drop down a weight class! And no my child did not get beat by someone that dropped down! He wrestles very hard and deserves his standing! It's just to me it looks like when someone has wrestled all year in one weight class and all of the sudden districts come and they drop down it makes me think they have it too hard so they drop down to do better at state! And I have heard those conversations! The weight allowance is for growing!!!!! What are we teaching our kids in life about the real world, you get s job and you drop a possition because it is easier?! You have to meet the challenge and learn! And yes my child knows it will be harder know but he will work hard and hopefully prevail! But I am proud of for staying in his weight class when he could have dropped down and not being afraid of a challenge!
I'm not sure who u think I am talking about but it is not someone who weighed in at 75.8! U have the wrong person !
I'm not sure who u think I am talking about but it is not someone who weighed in at 75.8! U have the wrong person !
This discussion came up immediately after a particular kid's name came up. And most of the discussion has been around that weight. A logical assumption that everything is related.
All I can speak for is my team and my kid. Kids not really cutting weight; wrestling up all year. That's the way I view it. They aren't dropping, they have been wrestling up. I pulled the boys aside and they made the decision. They see the team benefits; looking beyond their own interests. Believe me, Yenter at 32-0 isn't running from anyone at 75.
Im not even talking about yenter or that weight class! If they choose to wrestle up that is there choice
, but why change all of the sudden when districts get here? You wrestle all year in a weight class, u stay in that class!
Im not even talking about yenter or that weight class! If they choose to wrestle up that is there choice
, but why change all of the sudden when districts get here? You wrestle all year in a weight class, u stay in that class!
If that is truly how you feel, then I'm assuming you all will not be wrestling in high school. Kids get moved around ALL of the time for individual match-ups and team match-ups at that level. To be honest, if you look around, most of your more successful middle school programs move kids around for the betterment of the team in certain match-ups. Contrary to belief- wrestling is a TEAM sport.
Wait until your kid gets bumped to another weight because a better wrestler on his own team switches to his weight. Are you just gonna quit? No- you make the most of it and wrestle your butt off! :-)
Exactly! Why not work your butt off in the weight class u started out in instead of dropping down after u have watched kids all year and think u have a better advantage when u drop down! Learn to finish it! Even if kids have dropped down to my sons weight class good for him for sticking it out and facing the challenge! It's kind of like football, baseball etc. that watch tapes to see how other teams play so u can work on strategy but this is the other way around, u watch kids all year that u think u r going to wrestle but then the table is turned and kids that had an idea that they were going to drop down took the the again "Growth Allawnace" to take an unfare advantage! And yes it is a team sport and my son is with his team all the time cheering them on but u can't tell me that individually your kids dont think about themselves winning! And I'm not saying that my son and other kids in the same situation dont still have a good chance I'm saying let's be fare and let's teach thes kids to finish what they start! Enough said!
I'm sorry i still have to add this. My child has been bumped out in wrestle offs for a position but he figured out how to wrestle that person and come back stronger. I don't care if he wrestles someone that weighs 5 to 7 pounds more than him but still in his weight class more power to him if he wins, but at least he didn't have to drop down a weight class to do so! And why would u want to go to state in a lower class than u wrestled in all year? What does that look like?! I'm sorry, this is just the way I see it!
Wrestlehard, your frustrations are understood. Although I disagree with you, I can understand what you are trying to say. I have a kid that has wrestled up all year to better himself. He took a couple lumps, but it made him better. We knew all along this wasn't going to be his weight class for the post season. Be honest, if your son came home and said, hey mom and dad, I can win State this year, but I need to cut a pound or two. I am sure that you be a little more understanding. Bottom line is, no rules were broke. This is just a part of the sport in which you disagree with. It probably won't be the last part either. Good luck to your son this year.
My point about this being a team sport is that depending on the depth of a team, the team as a whole may be stronger by moving some kids up a weight to fill those spots- team strategy. Now the 'team' part of the season comes to a conclusion and now it's the individual tournament. Time to go back to where you are strongest.
I get what you are saying about cutting weight. I really do. I didnt want any of the kids that wrestled for me in middle school cutting period. (being off a pound or two is completely different). I don't think any kid under at least 16 should cut weight just from a puberty stand point. Just my opinion.
My son wrestles in high school now and I still will not let him cut( excluding a pound or two). He wrestles where he's at. But it's part of the sport to some degree. Like it or not it's not going to change.
I wish 3 of them would have stayed at 86 would have made for a good group at state tournament
I am assuming you are referring to CC, Elkhorn, and River City.I wish 3 of them would have stayed at 86 would have made for a good group at state tournament
Sounds like a great thing to table for discussion and vote at the next meeting, after the states. Remember that kids get on this and know some of your user names- write with passion and not emotion. Be professional and lets pick up on this for a vote before next season. Good luck to all.
This has been a hot topic for years about weight loss and weight certification and what not. It's just as debatable as the "fairness" in some minds of kids switching teams every year. Bottom line, when it comes time to go to the state tournament, 99% of the time the best kids are going to be there. Trust me though, my son and I have been in that 1%. A crappy draw or a bad Saturday of wrestling can keep you on the sideline watching as 8 or 9 of the kids you handed butt-whippings during the season step up on the podium and receive their medals at state. You think that's not motivation to get there next year! I personally bumped 2 of my better kids up this year because I thought they had a better chance of placing at the next weight class and it gave another kid from our team the chance to wrestle at districts without wrestling a teammate. Those 2 kids I am talking about have wrestled varsity all year and handled themselves quite nicely with the high school boys. Point is, your talking about kids dropping from 80 to 75 or 75 to 70. Seriously, what kind of an advantage are you going to have because you outweigh your opponent by 4 or 5 pounds. And more often than not, the kids cutting the big-time weight don't have enough gas in their tank to be at full strength come big tournament time anyway. The kids will always prove who is the cream of the crop on the mat.
They're not even losing 5 lbs, with the 2 lb allowance at the lower weights its only 3 lbs. Not a big deal and why try to make these kids make scratch when it may throw off the team dynamic just because individual aspirations may be different come the end of the season. Most tournaments we attend during the regular season are dual events and the team aspect is going to cause you to put kids in places they might not choose to be at come districts going into state. As long as kids are using healthy means to achieve their goal then there is nothing wrong with it and even then sometimes the heavier weight class may actually have less talent than the lower of the two so where is the advantage in that. Just let em wrestle.
Wrestlehard
Coming from a parent of a kid that did not make scratch weight (105 lbs) and is currently wrestling the weight class with the 2 lb allowance. He wrestles varsity for his high school team. He didn't drop down to middle school until the 2 lb allowance took effect because of obligations to his hs team. Would you think its fair that he couldn't wrestle the 105 lb class because he didn't weigh in for middle school until after the 2 lbs allowance was given? That wouldn't be fair either, and believe me, there are a lot of kids in this situation. One of the reasons they allow wrestlers to not have to make scratch.
As far as making scratch weight (please correct me if I am wrong) but I don't think high schoolers are required to make scratch weight either. They are given a plan that tells them at what point in the season they can wrestle the lowest allowable weight but they are not required to make scratch weight ever.
Please quit with the comparison of High School to Middle School. There is alot of difference in muscle tone, strength and maturity between a 16 to 18 year old that the 2lb allowance was designed for and an 11 - 13 year old that is in question here. Bottom line when you have weight classes as close as most of the middle school weights are there should not be a weight allowance.....at all. Make weight and wrestle or wrestle up the next class. It is easy to argue based on what helps YOUR kid from either direction, but get rid of the debate next year and get rid of weight allowances. If anything give 1 pound during the holiday season but remove it 1 week after schools are back open. This removes the entire debate of stupidity. Allowance was implemented for growth purposes and nobody here is using it for that purpose. So lets get rid of it all together.
Wow...these are the rules in place. The rules that have been voted on and agreed to by the majority. Get over it.
Maybe we should stop considering only the bottom weights in this discussion. I have a 140lb district champion that started the year at 135.9lb, he wrestled 140 all year and now after 3 months of training comes in on Mondays at 144lb. This kid has low body fat and is putting on muscle. The weight allowance does not just affect 70-105lb kids. This is just one example of several on just my team, this year, where the weight allowance was 100% appropriate even based on the disparate arguments on this thread.
Bottom line is, your kid got beat by another kid that made the same weight as he did that day, end of story. There are still regions and state for your son to get better and beat that kid, maybe that is what he should be focused on. Good luck everyone, should be a fun couple weeks.
"Bottom line is, your kid got beat by another kid that made the same weight as he did that day, end of story. There are still regions and state for your son to get better and beat that kid, maybe that is what he should be focused on. Good luck everyone, should be a fun couple weeks."
Amen brother
I dont have a dog in this fight but I do think its funny how you have 2 sets of weight classes during the year, I agree with weight allowances and Im against a middle school kid cutting weight , but a kid does have the right to be in the weight class that he/she and their coach feel tney will be most competitive in. As a coach who was kind of famous for having kids "wrestle up" weight classes and have a different team come districts. Its just a part of the sport.
This is my son's first year in wrestling, he wanted to try it hoping to stay in shape for football, which he has. As my wife said there is no comparison between football practice and wrestling practice. He has weighed anywhere from 152 to 160 through the year. He eats before weigh ins because he is way under weight. He should be in the 152 but his coach needed him at 168 because they have a kid who is very good at 152. He looks like he's so much smaller than a lot of his opponents. Overall he has had a good year but wish he would gain weight to help him against bigger opponents because of his inexperience. all he has right now is strength because he hasn't got very many wrestling moves that he is willing to try in a tournament. I'm not saying he hasn't learned any moves in practice but in a match he doesn't want to do too much outside his comfort zone. If he ever develops some technique he'll be a pretty good wrestler but that will come with experience. As far as dropping down, there will be coaches and parents who will always figure out how to work the rules in favor of themselves, these are coaches who have pressure from parents to deliver or they will get someone who does. how enjoyable a relationship that must be. Also who has their child drop weight when they are already smaller than some of their peers in school? What next, are we going to start selective breeding to ensure smaller but muscular children who are the ideal wrestlers. Why do parents put so much pressure on their kids? I ask my son after each tournament if he had fun, if it gets to be not fun anymore then we will stop. He really loves this sport and enjoys competing. Win or lose he handles himself with class and dignity. I hope to do the same but can't promise anything because like other parents we want our kids to come out victorious. We need to try and remember that we are dealing with children. I have to remind myself this on occasion because there are times my son looks older than what he is. This is just MIDDLE SCHOOL WRESTLING and i'm sure there are parents and coaches who will say with an attitude like that your son will not go very far in wrestling. Maybe he won't go far in wrestling but hopefully he will learn some important life lessons from this. Be proud of your children no matter if they are gifted athletes or bookworms on the chess team.
Thanks to all the people who have spent time helping my son learn this sport and have a great time doing it, Mike