Somebody made the point that we haven't given Dragon and State Duals the attention they deserve considering they are nearly upon us. Now being up here wrasslin in Ohio I haven't followed much wrestling in the commonwealth outside of Region 1 so I don't feel qualified to offer up my own predictions. But I'll throw my support behind the infamous Union County

My pick is LaRue Co. over Campbell Co. Union over Trinity for Third.

Pool Predictions:

1. Larue Co. 2. Union Co. 3. CC 4. Trinity

Wayne Co Woodford Co. Southern Oldham Co.

St. X Simon Kenton JC Anderson Co.

Fort Cam. Franklin Co. Eastern Meade Co.

Larue and Union for first and second with Larue winning

CC and Trinity for third and fourth with CC winning

If the pools do come out this way I could see Oldham upsetting Trinity

I think Larue runs away with it! Campbell, Union, Trinity will be in the hunt. If Simon Kenton gets in they will also be hard to beat, I think they lost to Campbell by 2 and Ryle by 2 without 3 of their starters. State duals are always a fun event to watch.

Larue will dominate

what about an underdog team that could surprise??

I originally thought that Larue would dominate, but I am leaning towards Union after looking at some of the match-up possibilities. It all depends on how the pools shake out, but I believe Oldham Co. has a shot at an upset.

Tis the year for the hawks for sure, they have a great program going on down there and I don't believe anyone can come close to them. Aside from them I'm with Figure4, CC, Trinity, and Union are going to be amungst the top teams. I'm preditcting that Simon Kenton will have some major upsets down there. They beat Ryle early in the year and just lost to both CC and Ryle recently by two points with 4 of their starters out... they will have their full line up down at State Duals. Larue over SK in the finals.

Some of you may not remember but this group of Larue wrestlers were defeated by Union at the middle school state Duals when they were 8th graders. Everyone said Larue couldn't be beat then. That's why we decide it on the mat.

Match by match predictions

106 larue by Dec 3-0

113 union by fall 3-6

120 union by fall 3-12

126 union by fall 3-18

132 union by fall 3-24

138 union by major 3-28

145union by Dec 3-31

152 union by Dec 3-34.....that's the last points we will see from union

160 larue by major 7-34

170 larue by fall 13-34

182 larue by fall 19-34

195 larue by major 23-34

220 larue by major 27-34

285 larue by fall 33-34 union wins....

Key points: 103 bonus opportunity for larue. 132 Carr must pin Perez. If uinions heavyweight can keep from getting pinned, that will be a big help for them.

I see each team winning 7 matches, so this dual will be won on bonus points.

103, bonus points will not happen. Kid from Union will have to get thrown in a headlock (cough, jerimiah kline, cough) for Larue to get any bonus points.

If Trinity finally has a full lineup for the first time this year then I can see them making some noise as well. I'm not sure if Darrow is back yet or not, but I'm hoping he is.

Not absolutely positive but doesn't each region have two teams. If i am not mistaken that would leave Simon Kenton out of the picture.

Match by match predictions

106 larue by Dec 3-0

113 union by fall 3-6

120 union by fall 3-12

126 union by fall 3-18

132 union by fall 3-24

138 union by major 3-28

145union by Dec 3-31

152 union by Dec 3-34.....that's the last points we will see from union

160 larue by major 7-34

170 larue by fall 13-34

182 larue by fall 19-34

195 larue by major 23-34

220 larue by major 27-34

285 larue by fall 33-34 union wins....

Key points: 103 bonus opportunity for larue. 132 Carr must pin Perez. If uinions heavyweight can keep from getting pinned, that will be a big help for them.

I see each team winning 7 matches, so this dual will be won on bonus points.

Brock and Jayce are great wrestlers but I don't see them pinning Paden or Perez. I see both of those matches as being close hard fought matches.

Match by match predictions

106 larue by Dec 3-0

113 union by fall 3-6

120 union by fall 3-12

126 union by fall 3-18

132 union by fall 3-24

138 union by major 3-28

145union by Dec 3-31

152 union by Dec 3-34.....that's the last points we will see from union

160 larue by major 7-34

170 larue by fall 13-34

182 larue by fall 19-34

195 larue by major 23-34

220 larue by major 27-34

285 larue by fall 33-34 union wins....

Key points: 103 bonus opportunity for larue. 132 Carr must pin Perez. If uinions heavyweight can keep from getting pinned, that will be a big help for them.

I see each team winning 7 matches, so this dual will be won on bonus points.

I thought I saw that Jayce pinned Perez.... And Ervin Def pins paden

I agree with your assessment that this dual will be close and most definitely won on bonus points. But, I'd be a little surprised if Newberry didn't pin at 220.

I could see that happening. My annalysis is more of a means to an end. I predict union winning but it will be by 3 or fewer points. however, several of these matches could flip flop on where pins, majors, and Dec are earnes. Of course all this is based on a HUGE assumption: that both teams have all their guys healthy.

Not absolutely positive but doesn't each region have two teams. If i am not mistaken that would leave Simon Kenton out of the picture.

That is correct, however; from what i understand Ryle will be going to a tournament in Ohio that weekend leaving #3 SK able to attend.

Larue has a great yes dual record and I look for them to move Paden to 120. By suing this they would hope to win 120 by dec. that would be a 9 point swing and Brock would get a pin at 126. That is only if Paden can drop to 120. Just my opinion.

No jayce was wrestling Perez at raider rumble and he got hurt and forfeited the match due to injury.

no one moves the lineup like Cantar, his son can wrestle what 52,60,maybe 70 im not sure but he beat woodfords #1 7 nothing earlier in the year, back to back state dual champs in my opinion followed by Union, CC then Tri or Ryle

anyone want to try and match up the top 4 teams line ups and give your predictions?

Top 4 Seeds

1 Union

2 Larue

3 , 4, 5 going to be hard to tell with Wayne Co being undefeated in instate competition and I dont know know what Trinity's record is, kind of makes Campbell Co a dangerous 4 or 5

this seed meeting should be a good one and will really decide how things turn out

except for Ryle who will be the most dangerous #2 coming from a region

Ryle isn't going SK is

Top 4 Seeds

1 Union

2 Larue

3 , 4, 5 going to be hard to tell with Wayne Co being undefeated in instate competition and I dont know know what Trinity's record is, kind of makes Campbell Co a dangerous 4 or 5

this seed meeting should be a good one and will really decide how things turn out

except for Ryle who will be the most dangerous #2 coming from a region

LaRue is undefeated against in-state competition. They should be the No. 1 seed, followed by Union County.

figured that both Union and Larue was, I just flipped a coin, Trinity might be too

Union beat Trinity head to head at Harrison (IN) earlier in december. Let Larue get first seed, they deserve it. But wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them not win it. This is their type of tournament though. Always been good at duals but slack at the real state a little. Might be their year!

Union beat Trinity head to head at Harrison (IN) earlier in december. Let Larue get first seed, they deserve it. But wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them not win it. This is their type of tournament though. Always been good at duals but slack at the real state a little. Might be their year!

Not this year. They've focused more on individual tourneys in an effort to make a run at the title.

If Trinity has lost, you know Wayne might get the 3 throwing a uneven bracket at the top

1 Larue or Union

2 Union or Larue

3 Wayne Co

4 Trinity or Campbell

5 Campbell or Trinity

6 Oldham Co

7 Southern

8 Woodford

#2 would be

Ft Campbell

Anderson Co

Johnson Central

St X

Simon Kenton

Eastern

Meade County

Franklin County

If they still seed al lthe number #1 s then the pools could end up like this

A Larue Woodford Meade ,Ft Campbell

B Trinity Campbell Johnson Central Eastern

C Wayne Co Oldham ST X Simon Kenton

D Union Southern Anderson Franklin

Larue walks through pool A and awaits the Trinity or Campbell winner

Union wrestles Simon Kenton

I still think Larue , Union is a toss up but give Larue the edge in a dual

If the pools do come out the way you have it (BigEd) then I see Oldham coming out of the "C" bracket. The "D" bracket would be brutal. St. X is arguably the top #2 team, Southern is a real tuff team top to bottom, and Franklin is very tuff in the middle of their line-up.

Sorry Sig, I made a mistake X goes in pool C too, I shouldnt be allowed to post anything after midnight. I fixed my draw today. Pool C would be the most competitive but I have to give Simeon Kenton an edge. but all those duals in C will be close but I think the whole bottom bracket is running behind union

i have union beating larue 38-36

Pool C would be BRUTAL!

I would say that it will be close, but Union has never had any luck their way when it comes to the state duals. Look at their history when it comes to that tourney. They have had some pretty salty teams in the past and have never taken the crown, so my prediction would be Larue. (Hope the reverse psychology works)

Other than the Irvins and Jayce Carr who does Union have? ah . . .. . .. . ????? exactly

LARUE

Blackwell and Wurth are pretty good!

Who are these Irvins? I know Brock Ervin is pretty good and Gabe Ervin can hang with anybody in the state haha. Never assume Union County doesn't have a good wrestler at any weight.

Wayne Co lost to both St. X and N. Oldham this year @ N. Oldham duals in November. That will drop them out of seeding consideration. Has Campbell Co lost an in-state dual? Trinity has 1 loss, to Union. Probably will be #1 Larue, #2 Union, #3 Trinity, #4 Campbell. Could reverse 3 and 4 if Campbell hasn't lost.

You are correct RYP about Wayne. I didn't go that far back to see results. I think Campbell has one loss to Ryle earlier in the season. I would agree with you: LaRue #1, #2 Union, #3 Trinity and #4 Campbell. IF those are indeed the fop 4 seeds, then that would put St. X on Larue and Campbell's side of the bracket and Simon Kenton on Union and Trinity's side of the bracket. St. X and Simon Kenton are very good 2 seeds and dangerous as well in that they could easily upset a top four seed on any given day. Should be fun on Saturday!

didnt know about Waynes losses

that make everything balance out and throws my draw to crap,,,lol

Ill make a new one later

With more information that I now have, here is a new draw

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1 Larue

2 Union

3 Trinity

4 Campbell

5 Oldham Co

6 Southern

7 Wayne Co

8 Woodford

#2 would be

Ft Campbell

Anderson Co

Johnson Central

St X

Simon Kenton

Eastern

Meade County

Franklin County

Pool A Larue , Woodford, ST X, Meade Co

Pool B Campbell Co , Oldham, Ft Campbell, Johnson Central

Pool C Trinity, Southern, Simon Kenton, Eastern

Pool D Union, Wayne, Franklin, Anderson

This Draw is based on if they still seed all the #1s and cross bracket their Regional #2s, now if I had more info. I would even be more accurate

Larue and Union was a coin flip

Trinity and Campbell was kind of a coin flup , I just weied the lost to Union and little better that a lost to Ryle

Bumped up Oldham and Southern because of common competition with Wayne County

If the draw comes out anything like I said and Larue wins, They sure would deserve it

What about the fact that Woodford holds a head to head win over Oldham?

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:55 AM

no one moves the lineup like Cantar, his son can wrestle what 52,60,maybe 70 im not sure but he beat woodfords #1 7 nothing earlier in the year, back to back state dual champs in my opinion followed by Union, CC then Tri or Ryle

Risinger ran a train on him at 52.

Other than the Irvins and Jayce Carr who does Union have? ah . . .. . .. . ????? exactly

LARUE

Apparently they have other wrestlers on the team as well! Good thing it's decided on the mat and not on the internet.. BTW, I'm sure others have said this before but it's 'Ervin' not 'Irvin'.