Okay, not nearly enough hours in the day for as much discussion as I would like, but more importantly, the basics are done. I have not taken into consideration any injuries or changes in the brackets from the original distribution. Enjoy the read and hope to see many of you this weekend in Lexington. And I really, really hope the atmosphere is just as good at Alltech compared to the Dungeon.

Ranger report 2012 v2.pdf

Thanks Mathound for providing some much needed editing; too many 2 am nights typing. I just posted a revision and 9:00 am.

Once again, great job Ranger and thank you for all you contribute to our sport

Ranger - you never cease to amaze me with the knowledge that you have and the passion to keep doing this. It is impressive to say the least. I see that flying under the radar only goes so far when it comes down to the big dance.

Much appreciated.

Ranger, you rock. Cheers to you.

The coolest thing here, historically, Ranger is 64% correct on his #1 ranked kids over the last 3 years. Another 24% of the champions were actually ranked #2. This means that 88% of all champions were either ranked #1 or #2 over the last 3 years.

That's why he's the man.

Thank you again Ranger. You make the sport more fun and interesting. So much for your rankings not being "accurate" or "trustworthy."

I learned long ago not to argue with Ranger, I have found maybe 5 cases in 4 years where he was completely wrong. Which considering he ranks around 400 kids is insane

Probably one of the most surprising matches to me was luke rerick and that Cody Stephens boy from. McCreary central right off the bat. I mean Luke one. But 21 ranked Cody Stephens gave Wrestled with him for three straight rounds

Probably one of the most surprising matches to me was luke rerick and that Cody Stephens boy from. McCreary central right off the bat. I mean Luke won But 21 ranked Cody Stephens Wrestled with him for three straight rounds

Very good job it's great that people know the kids and the sport and do these kinda of things it keeps people interested rubs some the wrong way but if you don't like where your ranked then that actually gives you incentive to do better ......and I told ya so ,.....just kidding no one gives fresh props you actually gave some more than expected thanks .... Great job ,, don't take your critics to seriously all you can do is make intelligent guesses it would be impossible to be perfect .

11 out of 14 first place picks is pretty good! The other State champs were picked to finish 2nd @ 160, 2nd @ 220, and 3rd at HVY. WOW! Some body knows what he is doing.

Now for kicks he should really impress us lets see his picks for next yr.

I am close. Between Team KY, Brute Nationals, and TOC we have been hitting the mats pretty hard. Not to mention my day job and family obligations. I have most of the pre-season stuff ready, just need to make a few tweeks.

I want to see this because I have no clue who will be where in some weights , I know who's taking 220 and after and before that I'm lost I see Polly Hamilton and probably Jones at 45 and 52 and 60 being easy picks canter at the next weight Chamberle at 189 or 180 whatever it is , 195 I guess Bryant .220 is going to get completely blown out beyond belief by some sophomore , hvy I wouldn't have a clue.38 I see Carr unless he's 45 then that makes things interesting for sure below Carr will be Ervin below Ervin I do not know I guess the Blackwell kid . With Faust in there somewhere shaking things up a bit.

Match of the year is a no brainer .

Team , I have to think CC has a great shot with SK and union there ready to take it if they falter.

I wonder if Carr actually goes 45 that would be the toughest class , interesting. I am betting Austin goes hvy in the beginning of the year and then drops starting to listen to advice even if it's not the wisest choice a happy wrestler is easier to work with ,

Faust is a big ? Mark where will he go he will be an impact wrestler ,

I'm just guessing and know very little except who's going to win 220 lol

The worst matchup for the 220 from CC is an ultra-athletic stud who has superior conditioning. Someone who can win a few flurries and wear him down. I think he's vulnerable and certainly no lock.

Lol everyone is vulnerable , well , except him he has not been in top condition this year wrestling heavier than he should and out of shape as for ultra athletic he Does ok in that department and as for hit and run tactics against him he overcame those as a sixth grader.If all those seniors this year couldn't wear him down and win a "flurry"not a single one when he was blown up and out of shape I doubt that anyone will win one next year when he's a real 220 or at least closer to being one .

Of course I am having fun with him but on a serious note his defense is superior to most kids his sise an an athletic kid isn't going to break it a more powerful kid might and he will not see one of those in state .

The only flurry anyone is going to see is one of those panicky looking foot stomping let me of my back your breaking my neck flurries .

He pins through ........ The whole year .

I could say the worst matchup for anyone Is an ultra athletic stud with more conditioning who can win flurries and wear someone down , actually Austin has wrestled that exact type of person since he could crawl lmao you just described his brother and Austin's style is perfect for wrestling that type you need a good defense and his is better than good.

if what nkawtg135 says is true, then watch the team kentucky duals where austin gets that inside trip at the end. the kid was probably one of the most athletic kids ive ever seen and could definitly throw in a couple flurries but somehow ausin won?

Austin wrestled smart but duiring a year where he doesn't set out he would have finished a couple more of those shots he didn't and probably scored on a couple of those throwbye slidebye attempts and scored a few more takedowns .

And that fleeing call was bs ,a great match for Austin not only showing his wrestling skills but his total knowledge of wrestling he paused when e had to and presses when he had to and never panicked or got down when he was down , years of wrestling up and wrestling older stronger and more athletic kids has given him a different style and he Is a mat general he is already ahead of everyone psychologically .i cannot remember ever seeing him break and neither can anyone else .

He's fun to watch. The Indiana kid was gassed at the end and ended up giving up 2 on a nice inside trip. As good as he is I doubt he pins through the state tourney. Not that he's not talented, just that it's an extremely difficult thing to do.

His brother pinned and teched everyone he wrestled all year albeit a short year for him but he did it through districts and state .

Good chance someone runs or is wormy .but better chance anyone who is smart or good enough to run that well runs right into another weight class lol I'm sure he goes for the pins shock and awe as I said he is a mat general and he will go for the pins when they are there he has no issues whatsoever about hurting anyone's feeling by showing them the lights .

I'm just having fun and I hope everyone knows Austin wants to do well not only for him but for his school and state if i spent any amount of time with any kids I would talk the same smack "if they actually had a chance of backing up my Bs " I look forward to seeing Faust win a state title he suffers and works very hard and has the skill and talent to get it done . Campbell county will have shots at at least 4 titles next year again but I think it takes a serious amount of work and maybe a little luck to snatch 4 again not to say more is not possible . I honestly think Austin will be the most dominant wrestler in the state here on out the lighter weights are full of different types of talent and Austin is not only strong enough for 220 but he has "flurries " of moves that no kid his sise will hit that he will hit often.

Honestly it will come down to power and i guarantee he is much stronger next year he is already mich stronger than at state and by the time the season starts i expect him to be NORSE GOD SWOLE i have seen kids shoot him and get crushed he has great hips and only a mistake by him will let anyone score on him . Don't be surprised to see his brother wrestle 170 next year not because it's where he needs to or has to go but because he cannot stand losing to Austin and I'm order to hang with him he will have to get bigger . I know that's insane as heck but it's the truth .he could care less about where he should go for college or nationally it's all about beating Austin .

And Austin was gassed to but wrestled smarter .

All hype aside Just saw the wrestling USA final rankings Stephen Myers went from 3rd at 132 to 11 at 152 in the jrs ,Kevin Cooper ended up 13th at 145,and Austin went from 11th at 195 to 5th at 220 highest ranked fresh at 195 to highest ranked fresh at 220.moving up ,

Not sure about everyone else sure there are plenty more KY kids in there as well.

Brock Ervin 5th at 126, Shaun Fauz 29th at 126,both fresh and soph ,Yenter,Chamberlee and Jude honorable mention .With Garths wins this year he should have been top 20 in my opinion easily ranked top 30 .

John Fahy was ranked 13th i believe for Srs .

Jayce Carr 26th at 132.

Interesting to see how the ALL class rankings turn out ,Fahy ,Stephen and Cooper should all have good shots being top 15 as Jrs and SRs anyone outside of top 15 will have it tough Brock should make it as a 5th at 126 not sure if Austin makes the list at 5th at 220 but it would be neat as HE!!

5 kids in the all class rankings would be pretty good i think but i say Yenter should have been in that as well .

I will die laughing if Austin makes the all class rankings .

He's fun to watch. The Indiana kid was gassed at the end and ended up giving up 2 on a nice inside trip. As good as he is I doubt he pins through the state tourney. Not that he's not talented, just that it's an extremely difficult thing to do.

Good thing that kid was gassed huh ,if that kid would not have gotten that bogus fleeing call it would have been tied ,maybe a good thing it forced a score but it wasnt being gassed that got the takedown if two kids are gassed i think its an equal playing field the kid thought he was getting set up to be thrown and so did all his laughing teammates and BAMMAMMM inside trip courtesy of the toughest jr high wrestling room i have ever seen and the best coach as well .

How much money you got i say Austin can finish everyone next year at 220 in KY pin or tech i have no problem betting anyone lets do it .

I get your undertone bro a win is a win i think indiana has as much roadspace as ky everyone can get in shape hahahha

If he pins everyone before the third i get double hahahahahah

Sharks in the water

I'm dying for rankings

Well CC has 4 nationally ranked wrestlers just saw Paul Hamilton is 25th at 138 in the jr class .wrestling USA rankings .so if Yenter would have gotten the look and ranking he deserved they would have had 5 . That's pretty much on par with a lot of the better teams in the country .4 ranked wrestlers coming into next season is very impressive . They should hit Iron Man or Powerade next year a a team .

A guesstimate would be an overstatement pretty hard to tell where most kids will be other than hvys. Probably close within one class though ,Walton seems to have a pretty impressive coaching staff from top to bottom at all ages if they get the numbers they could build a dynasty . I have seen some lighter weight kids already jump at least three classes already no telling where everyone lands and the effects it has . ky is a littl wider open than some states it creates more mystery as to where everyone goes because some kida can hang at many weight classes!

Well CC has 4 nationally ranked wrestlers just saw Paul Hamilton is 25th at 138 in the jr class .wrestling USA rankings .so if Yenter would have gotten the look and ranking he deserved they would have had 5 . That's pretty much on par with a lot of the better teams in the country .4 ranked wrestlers coming into next season is very impressive . They should hit Iron Man or Powerade next year a a team .

I'm sorry but no way should Campbell be going to either of these tourneys as a team. Campbell would have maybe 3-4 who can compete and the other 8-10 are just along for the ride.

I understand that to be the best you have to compete with the best. But the majority of CC's wrestlers can't compete at this tourney. It would be a great cost to the team to travel that far for 3-4 wrestlers.

Campbell shouold send those 3 or 4 to that tourney only.

That's why the young lions can go booster up some funds , a for three or four you never know , let be honest the top teams generally have weak links themselves I have seen graham enter Iron Man with a few kids in weights that they have no chance I placing but they still go and still grow from the effort . Sorry but your thinking is backwards as I have said before what do you think the kids who wrestle who may not have college plans or not the skill to win state would remember from HS . They would remember the time they went to wrestle at one of the best tournys in the nation wrestled some of the best kids in the country and saw some and learned from watching the best wrestlers and coaches in the country .

Of course I want my kids to go but I find it odd people making excuses to keep out of the big tournys such a defeatist attitude cannot help the team the state or any kids make it to the next level .

Boosters / parents / fund raisers / ?heck I'd the state champions can't go anywhere and wrestle what's the point .

That's why the young lions can go booster up some funds , a for three or four you never know , let be honest the top teams generally have weak links themselves I have seen graham enter Iron Man with a few kids in weights that they have no chance I placing but they still go and still grow from the effort . Sorry but your thinking is backwards as I have said before what do you think the kids who wrestle who may not have college plans or not the skill to win state would remember from HS . They would remember the time they went to wrestle at one of the best tournys in the nation wrestled some of the best kids in the country and saw some and learned from watching the best wrestlers and coaches in the country .

Of course I want my kids to go but I find it odd people making excuses to keep out of the big tournys such a defeatist attitude cannot help the team the state or any kids make it to the next level .

Boosters / parents / fund raisers / ?heck If the state champions can't go anywhere and wrestle what's the point .

If a team that is the state champions and has 4 nationally ranked wrestlers is afraid to hang with the big boys then they should hang it up because they will never be ready . I do not see them or any other team in the state having any better chance at making a fair showing any time soon .

On another note CC should host a diesel tournament of their own they are a big school have a great history and should not let anyone outdo them in any aspect o the sport including tournaments !!!

This is where we disagree. Many wrestlers of today will not remember it as the time they wrestled in the best tourney in the nation and wrestled some of the best kids in the nation.

I would guess that most of the kids on the team (Campbell's included) can't even name 10 of the state champions from last years state tourney, let alone know anyone who is ranked nationally.

I've seen it 1st hand, even this year at the Ky state tourney. Many of the 2 and out kids go into the stands and sleep or just play around until the tourney is over. Didn't you see the matresses behind the bleachers at the state tourney? Kids were not even watching the state tourney once they were out. This is not mine or your generation of athletes. Like it or not, these are the "X-Box" kids. They want instant gratification for themselves.

If it's my kid, I want him going even if he doesn't make it to the second period and is a (Two and a Tee) kid. But teamwise you can't justify spending that kind of money on that kind of trip. If the tourney was local and had little travel I would agree with you 100%. With the exception of maybe Trinity no KY schools have the funding that Graham has.

I would even say most of the parents would not stay after their child is eliminated.

So they could go home ,most Graham parents do not travel to every tourny they do .i agree it's the Xbox gen but graham kids do not spend as much time xboxing as wrestling and I must disagree kids would remember travelling and the true wrestlers woul remember the studs and the blow up beds were for kids to rest between matches ,Gotta go kida gettin rings

Okay banquet is over rings are bad @ss and coach is trying to rev everyone up for next year pretty impressive Yenter going big ten Mich State ,as I said he should have been ranked and high .two open mats might be better than one a week but take what you can get ,

I wouldn't expect a kid to know ten state champs I bet you most HS coaches who were there couldn't name ten right now from last year bet you a gagillion bucks , some could most could not but I listen to some of the better kida in the state and country they pay attention to who is who and if more kids got on that level they would to I know I have seen a coach throw just above average kid in the national fire and most come out better for the beating CC kida would be no different . Stay big fish in a state pond or go out in the ocean and be a Shark .i know cc has a good youth and jr high squad but 4 nat ranked kids may never come their way again don't wait for something better when what you have is goo already they will not have the squad they have now or will have next yr for a long time if ever not knocking I just have a hunch and a little knowledge .

It's really kind of interesting how teams, coaches individuals etc. find ways to not compete. Even coaches stopping their best kids from competing at the highest levels. Its a shame.

Brock Ervin 5th at 126, Shaun Fauz 29th at 126,both fresh and soph ,Yenter,Chamberlee and Jude honorable mention .With Garths wins this year he should have been top 20 in my opinion easily ranked top 30 .

John Fahy was ranked 13th i believe for Srs .

Jayce Carr 26th at 132.

Interesting to see how the ALL class rankings turn out ,Fahy ,Stephen and Cooper should all have good shots being top 15 as Jrs and SRs anyone outside of top 15 will have it tough Brock should make it as a 5th at 126 not sure if Austin makes the list at 5th at 220 but it would be neat as HE!!

5 kids in the all class rankings would be pretty good i think but i say Yenter should have been in that as well .

Luke Rearic was ranked 27th for Juniors at 106lbs.....KY is finally showing up !!!!

True Buckeye, some kids want more some just want to keep what they got I guess it's the same with teams and coaches , we will see what direction everyone goes .i mentioned Rearic but missed him being ranked as I did Hamilton at first .so that's about 8 that are ranked and a handful more getting mentioned ,that's impressive ,

All class rankings coming out at the end of the month it will be interesting I know it's petty but when you see your kids starting from scratch as first graders and do the whole thing all out for years it's cool seeing your kids name mentioned with some kids who they used to look up to , I remember Stephen watching a pa wrestler as a youth and being awed by him then actually wrestling him at Iron Man years later he lost but there were others he looked up to and beat and said to me they are not that good any more and I looked at him and said no you are better end of story .

no rankings

tonight, whether i'm ready or not.

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