Now that Brock has won 3 state titles do you think he will win 2 more and be the first 5 timer in Kentucky?

there is no doubt in my mind that brock will be the first and probably only 5 time state champ in the state of kentucky for a while. his 8th grade year evrybody thought that since garth beat pat milford that garth was going to win the title, but brock dismantled garth. ya garth is a good wrestler but he is just not on brocks level. then his freshman year he beat an average wrestler in casa de valle. then once again this year he beat the reigning state champ of the 119 weight class in TJ. there is nobody in the stste of kentucky that can handle brock ervin, idc what anybody says. brock is on a level way above anybody else.

If Brock stays healthy he absolutely wins 5 titles! He's on a completely different level! He went from being in a single leg to taking TJ down with a doubleleg! Great match tho! Well worth the price of the ticket!

A wise old coach once told me in order to win a state championship you have to do all the right things. Do them better than everybody else. And, have some luck. So many great wrestlers have been there and done those things but came up short. I say Brock does not. Not because he can't or doesn't deserve to but, merely because the math says it is unlikely. As a fan, I will be rooting for him.

If he stays healthy it would be hard to say he won't . He is to the point now where kids will make adjustments to stay out of his weight class if possible !

Depends if he bumps up to the big boys next year. He can't beat Cooper or meyers as long as he stays in the Lil weights he will win it no problem.

Depends if he bumps up to the big boys next year. He can't beat Cooper or meyers as long as he stays in the Lil weights he will win it no problem.

I'm just curious as to why he couldn't beat these guys? Cooper and Meyers are great, but Ervin is right up there with them, possibly better. To flat out say he can't beat them is kinda crazy! But I really doubt he will be in their weight classes next year. I would expect to see him at 132 or 138. With that being said, he will be a 5 time champion.

Well Stephen beat Ruechell 14 to 1 and shoulda been tech or pin 2 yrs ago and he teched Hamilton in the 2nd period last yr ,just sayin and throwing it out for all the trinity fans .but yeah he can be a 5 x er y not and no duh he can't beat Stephen or cooper he can't beat Jude or Austin either??? Smaller weight totally possible I'm looking forward to watching him and some big Norse looking kid win out

I'm just curious as to why he couldn't beat these guys? Cooper and Meyers are great, but Ervin is right up there with them, possibly better. To flat out say he can't beat them is kinda crazy! But I really doubt he will be in their weight classes next year. I would expect to see him at 132 or 138. With that being said, he will be a 5 time champion.

Give Myers an entire year on the mat and you will see why. Cooper is imho the best wrestler in the state right now.

Why would he bump up if his body doesn't grow that big. Who knows he might! I see him as a 5x champion.

there is no doubt in my mind that brock will be the first and probably only 5 time state champ in the state of kentucky for a while. his 8th grade year evrybody thought that since garth beat pat milford that garth was going to win the title, but brock dismantled garth. ya garth is a good wrestler but he is just not on brocks level. then his freshman year he beat an average wrestler in casa de valle. then once again this year he beat the reigning state champ of the 119 weight class in TJ. there is nobody in the stste of kentucky that can handle brock ervin, idc what anybody says. brock is on a level way above anybody else.

If TJ finishes that takedown I believe he wins. Brock found a way to win a highly contested match. There was no thumping going on. I think he's a great wrestler and with a little luck can win 5 titles, but it won't be easy.

Give Myers an entire year on the mat and you will see why. Cooper is imho the best wrestler in the state right now.

Even with the lack of mat time this season, I think Myers was the most dominating wrestler at the state tournament. Cooper is great too, and I think he and Myers would be a good match. I think Myers would win, however. If Brock was bigger he would also give Myers a good match, but I think Myers would win. Just my opinion.

Size difference between the kids. Look at Caleb he was big but Brock won't be that big. And if myers is going to wrestle in college he will prolly cut down this year to his real weight class unfortunate he couldn't this year, it would have been fireworks between him and fahy. I hope Brock does it cause it's really showing the growth of western ky wrestling. Watch out for these teams

Pound for pound, Brock is the best wrestler in the State. I like Cooper and the Myers, but right now, Brock is the man. You dont have 3 high school State titles as a sophmore by accident. Just my opinion.

_{What is most amazing about Brock winning this year, is that he wasn't 100% healthy. After talking with one of the Union County coaches (his dad), Brock's knee was a major concern this season. I think he had several surgeries on it (this season). Nothing against TJ, I think he is an outstanding wrestler. You don't get a scholarship to a BIG 10 school (Wisconsin) for being a so so wrestler. However I feel that Brock is on a hole nother level then most kids in the State. I have no doubts that Brock will be wrestling at the college level at a major wrestling D1 school. This also goes for K. Cooper and S. Myers. Looking forward to see how these kids do at the D1 level in the future.}

I hope he does become the first 5 timer in Kentucky. Would be an exceptional accomplishment for anyone. There are alot of factors that could keep him from obtaining his goals. When you wrestle at a high level all the time your body doesn't get much time to rest in between. Hopefully this doesn't happen and we get to see him at a top level from here on out.

Im curious about the relationship of the Ervin boys.

How is Brock related to Mitch, Caleb and others?

Just wondering how big he might get, I think Mitch finished out at 160lbs, doesnt sound like Brock will get that big considering where hes at now as a 10th grader.

I think hes as much fun to watch as any KY kid wrestling today. Always shows a little funk in his style that you dont see out of many KY wrestlers. Seems to be aggresive at the whistle and doesnt stop until the match is decided.

Mitch and max's little brother.

Wasn't Max at 160 as well?

As far as his weight, I've seen plenty of wrestlers gain +15 lbs over one summer and he is only a Soph. If he does gain weight I would suspect him to still wrestle the same.

Brock looked great , very impressive TJ is good but He's not on the level of Fahy Stephen Or Kevin or Austin ,funny if I was a three x AA an undefeated state champ for 2 yrs who has never lost to anyone not ranked in the top in the nation all state champs and had to bump up and did what I saw a kid do this yr at state And everyone compared and made comments about kids being better than me I would be pi$$@& off I would probably ,,, well just keep on doing what I did this yr .since Stephen is that good and then some he laughs about it just like when some idiots made him the 2 seed at regionals and they asked him if he was mad and his brother a 1 seed blasted on him he laughed you wrestle who you wrestle seeds are meaningless he was an 18 seed at Iron man finished 4 th not seeded at swowca at all won easy ,but really a 2 seed at reg for a kid ranked 3 rd in the nation in his grade and weight in the beginning of the yr,no wonder he beat the snot out of everyone , keep saying everyone can beat him I have always liked the results , no knock on Brock they will never wrestle , and I like those union wrestlers they are awesome they flow like water I love it , if you think I offended any of you please feel free to talk to me you have a great team I am a fan .

Good luck Brock I bet you and Carr have some awesome practices

Stephen has pinned , techd,and beaten TJ 14 to 1 on a gift from the refs to TJ who was a 1 seed because they didn't want an unseeded kid teching and pinning through SWOWCA ,Stephen is an oac jr high ow winner D1 3rd as a fresh bs and an undefeated st champ in oh as a soph who snatched 3 AA and doubled once and just only wrestled a few weeks bumped up and swept through a ky state tournament with ease much easier than Brock , 3 ky titles is great but don't jump the gun that doesn't amount to squat compared to Stephens record , everyone should just go 45 or 52 next yr so I don't have to listen to this idiocy anymore no sooner do I give a kid props some one starts talking wrestling ignorance the best wrestler in ky is playin x box down the hall from me using one of his Tulsa trophys as drink holder .untill someone proves otherwise and I have a hunch it's going to be the 220 lber who just got back from the gym with me ,

Look throughout the history of the sport. In ky we had two 4 timers who lost at least once in their "Drive for 5". In Virginia just this season a three timer lost to a returning 1x champ in the finals. In Cali in the early 2000's a kid was chasing four and lost his senior year to an eventual 4 timer. Dan Gable losing his senior year of college. Their is so much talent in the state already plus those who will be great in the future, don't think for one minute he has five locked up, there is always someone who could have his number. I hope he does, but like my mother always said, "don't count your chickens 'till all the eggs hatch".

Wow: Don't you guys get it yet?

No one on here is allowed to have an opinion that is contradictory to Mpire's.

Just in case you didn't know Mpire. Contradictory means: going against or say the opposite of another statement or belief.

He has his own fife dome. He is the king just like the idol he is trying to look like (Conan). Just make sure you are out of his way when he goes into one of his r-rages.

Oh wait he can't be Conan, his son is not a Norse god. Oh well I can't keep all this straight any more. I give up whatever Mpire says is correct.

and don't you forget it.

ccwrestler drop it! its over!

I'd say Mpire asked for it and likes to hear it ! No way anybody puts all that on this site other than to rattle cages.

Yup. Just keep feeding the monkey people.

What's the matter dropkick? You still drinking the purple Kool-aid? The greatest thing is watching my little one take down a purple singlet. Mama always told me just wait they will get there just deserts one day. Seems like making a deal with the devil is doing it now.

As for Brock: didn't get to see him wrestle this year. (I had to work the weekend of state). But if he was better than last year it must have been great. He had to go through two tough wrestlers. Fausz and Ruschell.

Wait, what deserts has CC gotten yet? A state championship? Wow, they should feel terrible, I don't know how the kids sleep at night. Oh, by the way, grape is by far the best flavor.

And everyone of those kids in purple have a brand spanking new state championship rings, so now after all their hard work I'm sure they are enjoying their purple kool- aid

Yes Brock will do it ,

You can keep the hardware, we will keep our honor.

kids will be kids. Of course they will be proud of their state title, they are still to young to understand what price their team/school paid for it.

My kids will also go D1 if they want. It will be a fact. However it will be through hard work in the classroom earning that all more important academic scholarship. Unlike many wrestlers in Ky that I know of, I allowed one of mine to skip a grade instead of holding them back. It may hurt him in sports but will help him greatly in academics. If they want to continue wrestling, which I hope they do. It will help round them out as a person. It will be nice to win a state title, but not tip priority. Even now as young as they are we enjoy watching their matches on DVD and seeing how much fun they are having.

Sorry for the hi-jack of this topic. I'll finish with that last comment.

Brock will become a 5 time state champion. Only injury or illness will keep him from it. As someone said you don't win 3 titles because of your name or luck.

Since we are on the topic I also believe that both of the Meyers will win out. As someone has mentioned on here more times than we like. Facts are facts. They are the real deal, no matter who tries to take credit for their sucess.

stephen myers is better than jacob murton was

stephen myers is better than jacob murton was

This post is about Brock Ervin's chances of winning 5 state titles. The CC fanatics need to give it a break.

I like Brock's chances!

Looks to me like this has become a "No one is better than my sons topic" like every other thread on here. I think we all get it, your sons are extremely good wrestlers. Pretty sure, everyone that has seen them has agreed to that. This is about Brock Ervin and his chance to win 5 titles. Its a pretty cut and dry topic. Either a yes or no will do, unless you would like to give an explanation. Geez, to think I used to enjoy coming on here and reading the positive things going on in Kentucky Wrestling and all the wrestlers that make up the state. So let's all just move on for the greater good of the forums.

CC wrestler , I'm not sure what kids / wrestlers you are reffering to as far as academic scholarships but if you are trying to take another knock at mine you are mistaken honor grades wrestling, are all things the two transfers you so dishonorably enjoy posting about have well covered , they do not need wrestling for a scholarship but I'm sure their grades along with their wrestling will make life easier for their parents in a couple yrs ,I hope for your kids sake they get all the college letters and scholarships in the world as for my own ,I'm rather confused where is Stanford is it close to Columbia and Lehigh or is it close to Virginia Virginia tech , and how far is u penn from N Carolina, is OU nicer than Maryland and is Cornell a better fit than Army Navy or Airforce how about the big Ten haha and these Ind wrestlers Austin has been rolling with seem like down to earth fellows it would be nice to be close to home rather than some far of place like I bet that Stanford school is of course they will probably change schools in college a few times as well but it still won't matter they will always be wearing that ring , my precious

Brock was very fun to watch very talented I doubt anyone can stop him ,Barring injury.

This thread is about Brock. I believe he will be the first 5 timer. And I am so glad that he is the only one that can do it. No matter what anyones credentials are he is the only one that can do it. Good Luck Brock !

Think everyone is rooting for him as for my son better than your son posts I think someone stirred the pot by saying as long as he stays in the lil guy weights ,I for one know the lil guy weights are where the studs are that's why smart people keep their kids there as long as possible the skills and technique used at the more competitive lighter weights make for great wrestlers ,sorry if someone makes remarks about my kids I defend or comment with facts if possible . I would be very proud of Brock if he were mine he was possibly my favorite wrestler at the tournament next to my own very impressive I had never seen him and he added a lot to the tournament . Hope he gets five , sure he does it ,I'm sure kids will try to stop him saw him beat a good kid in the semis that may give him a good go .

This thread is about Brock. I believe he will be the first 5 timer. And I am so glad that he is the only one that can do it. No matter what anyones credentials are he is the only one that can do it. Good Luck Brock !

That is quite a statement. Baring a ruling that ms wrestlers cannot wrestle hs I see more in the future maybe not the near future but eventually. I would also like to point out that knable is still the only 4 timer to run them off in succession ( for those... That's in a row). Good luck Brock! I think if you continue to work hard and have a bit of luck you will succeed.

Let me clarify. Right now he is the only one that can be The FIRST 5 Timer .! Not the only one ever.

Handconrol: How many 4 timers do you think there are in KY?

There are officially 4

Robbie Clarkston 1978 (112 lb) 1979 (126) 1980 (138) 1981 (145)

Joe Carr (92) (94) (95) (96)

Isaac Knable (99) (00) (01) (02)

Harrison Courtney (06) (07) (08) (09)

A fifith is unofficial because the state tourney was not sanctioned the first 2 years.

James Earl Hardin. 1964 (154 lb) 65 (165 lb) 66 (165) 67 (165)

Clarkston, and Courtney did thiers in succession.

If you count Hardin then there are 3 that have accomplished this feat.

Handconrol: How many 4 timers do you think there are in KY?

There are officially 4

Robbie Clarkston 1978 (112 lb) 1979 (126) 1980 (138) 1981 (145)

Joe Carr (92) (94) (95) (96)

Isaac Knable (99) (00) (01) (02)

Harrison Courtney (06) (07) (08) (09)

A fifith is unofficial because the state tourney was not sanctioned the first 2 years.

James Earl Hardin. 1964 (154 lb) 65 (165 lb) 66 (165) 67 (165)

Clarkston, and Courtney did thiers in succession.

If you count Hardin then there are 3 that have accomplished this feat.

GOO you are leaving Fahy off the list. His are in succession as well 09, 10, 11, and 12. Also I don't see anyone stopping ervin in the next 2 years.

Handconrol: How many 4 timers do you think there are in KY?

There are officially 4

Robbie Clarkston 1978 (112 lb) 1979 (126) 1980 (138) 1981 (145)

Joe Carr (92) (94) (95) (96)

Isaac Knable (99) (00) (01) (02)

Harrison Courtney (06) (07) (08) (09)

A fifith is unofficial because the state tourney was not sanctioned the first 2 years.

James Earl Hardin. 1964 (154 lb) 65 (165 lb) 66 (165) 67 (165)

Clarkston, and Courtney did thiers in succession.

If you count Hardin then there are 3 that have accomplished this feat.

I think James Earl Hardin is actually considered a four timer, at least I think his state championships were mentioned in the KHSAA past results. I could be wrong.

Oops sorry; I did forget Fahy. duh.

I wasn't sure about James Hardin. I know that the state tourney wasn't sanctioned the 1st two years so I wasn't sure.

I believe for historical reasons. All the records of those two years are now considered part of the official records.

Just curious how many of the 4xers were Middle school champs? I know John was a 5x MS champ.

Just curious how many of the 4xers were Middle school champs? I know John was a 5x MS champ.

Middle School wrestling did not exist for most of them, it was only around for Courtney and Fahy

GOO you are like a walking timeline for KY wrestling I will be sure to check with you first I was not around for Courtney to old and was not around for clarkston to young, and forgot about Fahey. I eat my words on the four timer comment, thanks for pointing out the errors and keeping me honest.

OK I'll give you a pass on this one handcontrol, but just this one time.

I'll admit I do cheat a little. I don't always remember the dates, but I know how to look them up.