What are some interesting match ups you'd like to see next year at state

Here's an intresting one, Paul Hamilton vs. Kory Polly?

Stephen Myers vs. Kevin Cooper?

Austin Myers vs. Bobby Bryant?

Lets be honest Kevin and Stephen would and could be a good match At state but a very dumb one why would two kids who can and will win state easily against anyone but each other wrestle each other at state that would be ignorant but a great match probably the best ever in the state .

As for Austin and Anyone who is actually dumb enough to go 220 at state next year who might win at another class god bless them they need help because he is on fire and he isn't even anywhere near his peak neither is Stephen ,

Anyone lasting a match with Austin next year at state can consider their self incredibly talented lucky and blessed . It's pin city baby here on out at state ,

Hamilton will be much improved next year he is already very good and he will only get better I was impressed with Polly not getting pinned by cooper but poly doesn't have Hamiltons room or team barring a pin out of nowhere it will not be close .

Lets be honest Kevin and Stephen would and could be a good match At state but a very dumb one why would two kids who can and will win state easily against anyone but each other wrestle each other at state that would be ignorant but a great match probably the best ever in the state .

As for Austin and Anyone who is actually dumb enough to go 220 at state next year who might win at another class god bless them they need help because he is on fire and he isn't even anywhere near his peak neither is Stephen ,

Anyone lasting a match with Austin next year at state can consider their self incredibly talented lucky and blessed . It's pin city baby here on out at state ,

Hamilton will be much improved next year he is already very good and he will only get better I was impressed with Polly not getting pinned by cooper but poly doesn't have Hamiltons room or team barring a pin out of nowhere it will not be close .

yea. he is going to union next year. Hamilton and polly wrestled over the weekend and Polly pinned Hamilton, but Hamilton was pretty much in control the whole match, and got called on some rather questionable calls

see what happens, John Cal becomes the Ky BB coach and people start to realize its not about talent development , its about getting the best kid to transfer. LOL

Do a list of state champs last year and how many wear kids that transfered from the programs that developed them?

Mpire- your right I cant see a Bryant v Austin match being close. I became a fan after the inside trip. As for the Steven V Cooper match, I give Cooper the egde because of natural strenght and speed. I think Stephen should be a 45lber he looks small for a national level 150-152lber

Next years state tourney should be a great one, our top 1% is as good and deep and talented as I have seen in the 26 years in this sport that I have observed.

Did not know they wrestled over the weekend the pin comment was true I guess Poly at Union would probably change things quite a but for him and perhaps the state . I still take Hamilton at state though cooper beat Poly rather easily at state and Hamilton is talented I would have liked to see their match .

You were making some good points untill you mentioned speed and then I got very confused ! They match up differently but speed And natural ability is why Stephen was able to set out most of the year wrestle a couple weeks and walk through the state tournament quicker and easier than anyone there . Doubt he goes 45 he doesn't like cutting and while he was a small 52 he has been cutting to make the summer tournys ,

I actually have not seen Bryant wrestle I'm sure I saw him at state but I overlooked him I guess I watched Jude and he looked impressive but did not wow me with wrestling neither did any of the other upper weights not being a jerk just being honest Austin truthfully did not wow me either he won and and stuck to his plan but wrestled much better this past weekend while Stephen wrestled better at state in my opinion . I think I said it before if anyone was going to beat Austin they had their chance this past year it will not happen now he is improving physically to the point of no one being close he is still out of shape but controls the tempo and is becoming a Matt general he showed great poise and intelligence this week as did so many on the team and as he has done for years did not break under pressure . Without knocking anyone I think he can pin through the rest of his time at state and will live up to my boasting and bragging lol .

Cooper and Stephen will be a great match they probably will wrestle somewhere next yr if not sooner Cooper is sharp and strong but he cannot manhandle Stephen as he does the rest of the kids in the state and Stephen has an arsenal ability and speed that no one has even seen yet from him in his time wrestling in KY And he will not be able to manhandle Kevin as he has everyone else it will be a wrestling match . The best ever in the state two very skilled middle weights .

polley to union...idk about that...but on the polley vs hamilton topic i will say..kory has pinned hamilton here recently over the weekend...Polley is a special kid..dont see many people touching him next year at all even hamilton..

I can only base my judgement on the videos that I have seen stephen against top competition on here for speed and Cooper did look faster. and It might be a drilling the rust off issue. We all know half of speed is reaction that comes from drill in wrestling. Not saying when Fargo comes around Stephen's rust issue be gone. I think if he wants to win Fargo he needs to be at 143 (if thats the weight class). You know if it was his sophomore I would even recommend he sit out the summer and let him have teenager time. Wrestling year round is the most taxiing sport and Im a firm believer that sometimes you need to be a kid to be a wrestler

I personally would love to see myers Cooper match up. That's what it's about, just like the Ervin and ruchell match. Beat the best to say u are the best. As far as best match possibly but it would be hard to top the epic. Scott Cooper vs Luke metzkers match.

I agree on the lighter weight issue for Stephen but I don't know what video you were watching Stephen was fast and explosive at state and wrestling up even more this weekend against bigger kids he still got of his moves . Perhaps you need to actually try one of those low ankle pics on a bigger kid to appreciate the speed it takes or how fast you have to be to get behind someone after a throwbye etc who is a bit bigger , wrestling at 145 or even a real 152 he will appear much quicker if that's possible , if you want to see how fast he is or can be go to flow or watch his match where he bumped up to 60 something this week either way everyone will have their pick but you can't judge speed by watching matches of kids wrestling different weight classes I would actually think a kid wrestling up and winning would get the speed nod , I'm not going to touch the strength issue it's kind of misleading , I have seen Stephen pummel heavies to death and run strong looking kids over . Cooper is Definatly a strong talented wrestler who has much mor Matt time this year than Stephen and years of experience an all the bonuses a wrestler could ask for ,

Stephen has grown up wrestling who will be the strongest wrestler to ever step foot on a Matt in Ky , it will not be an issue for him it will Come down to wrestling and all aspects of it .

I'm sorry but Ruschell is not the same level as Stephen or Cooper not really even close Ervin is But I have seenStephen beat Rueschell 14 to 1 in a HS match it wasn't close and should not have even lasted all three periods just being honest ,Rueschell obviously dieted veeeeey hard and had sise advantage on Brock an still lost , not really a historic matchup in my somewhat outsider opinion .

I have never heard of the match mentioned I assume the Cooper is a well .... Cooper of the wrestling Coopers .. Therefore I'm sure he was good I think I have heard of the other guy in ky and that's it ,

I think a lot of people have seen Stephen and Kevin wrestle already they have different strengths . Most would agree your speed theory is way off both seem to horse around they at very evenly matched up Kevin better on top and bottom Stephen better on his feet not that I should break it down lol it's simply true ,if they get to wrestle everyone will be happy but the loser but seeing Kevin around for years and knowing what it takes to be a state champ and what it means to these kids an I know it means a lot to all of them but I wouldn't want to see either lose a title particularly mine but the wrestling gods will determine what happens .

I'm glad we are in Ky very pleased with how the year ended and after season is going very happy to have great coaches and new friends for me and my sons like coach Ervin good people ,

I always thought KY would enjoy a great big wrestler the stereotypical country boy although he's not a country boy I hope the state takes to Austin and what he will attempt over the years ahead and I hope they appreciate the boys efforts as well as tolerate and appreciate my own .My boys looked awful damn good in blue this past weekend lol

I think Simon Kenton and CC should be a great dual meet next year that could come down to shuffling some weights. Maybe some will be lucky enough to see them wrestle in a dual meet, but come state time why not have two state titles come back to nky instead of just one. I know I will come watch the dual and keep my fingers crossed. This side of the river its rare you get to see wrestlers of their caliber wrestling in a dual meet.

TBH there are barely ever heavier guys who wow people.

see what happens, John Cal becomes the Ky BB coach and people start to realize its not about talent development , its about getting the best kid to transfer. LOL

Do a list of state champs last year and how many wear kids that transfered from the programs that developed them?

Mpire- your right I cant see a Bryant v Austin match being close. I became a fan after the inside trip. As for the Steven V Cooper match, I give Cooper the egde because of natural strenght and speed. I think Stephen should be a 45lber he looks small for a national level 150-152lber

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Next years state tourney should be a great one, our top 1% is as good and deep and talented as I have seen in the 26 years in this sport that I have observed.

The inside trip for the last few seconds win was storybook stuff a little tale to tell in the years ahead .

The 360 double for the first score in the match was him showing he is anything but an ordinary good big boy and that he will not fall when those around him do and that is what he wants I heard the anouncer going over the scores suiting his match 30 something to 9 for Indy having Kevin and Stephen and some of the other bug guns lose close ones would dishearten most but I heard about the kid he wrestled well before I saw him Austin do not break but rather came after him right away very proud I saw him back up a lot yet still at least double the other guys offensive attempts I know he was gassed at the end and it was smart of him to take his time when needed some kids will not take a break for anger or fear of looking weak I guess the big boys have to at times , didn't like the fleeing call without a leg I don't like them ever getting behind someone is a lot different than being in a scoring position maybe it was good being down by one forced the attack and it worked ,freshman or not and regardless hi weight or state no one can take anything from him or anyone on the team for that matter , results do not lie

I agree about Stephen and Kevin they both deserve to go out champs and they are actually friends in Oh even though they do nit admitt it all the northern studs seperate , but I also remember the Taylor Palmer match craze Wow it was insane of Taylor dominated in my opinion but it was much awaited .

As for Austin he would be an incredible 195 lber next yr but I doubt he cuts it would be good for Fargo useless for state I would rather him become the legit 220 he can at state should he choose to go hvy afterwards he might as well quit no one could dream of beating a 250 + lb Austin in ky he would never be tested by wrestler or coach at 220 he ha some good coaches at cc to work him over for now even a brave dad with some skill and heart from Holmes who gives him some goes .

Picture him with 20 or 3o more lbs of muscle at 220 and that is what you will see by his jr yr .

I'm just saying from the practice room, whenever Kevin and Stephen wrestle, Stephen normally dominates him. Kevin is hard headed and a great wrestler but he doesn't match up to Stephen. Kevin will not go to the same weight as Stephen

I was stating the historic match up of Cooper vs metzker. Not Brock and ruchell. Lol. I was using them as the vest kids in two weight classes got together and banged it out at state to see who the better kid was. By far not a historic match ever.

A little birdy told me that Jesus Rosado from Moore is thinking about going 120.

The inside trip for the last few seconds win was storybook stuff a little tale to tell in the years ahead .

The 360 double for the first score in the match was him showing he is anything but an ordinary good big boy and that he will not fall when those around him do and that is what he wants I heard the anouncer going over the scores suiting his match 30 something to 9 for Indy having Kevin and Stephen and some of the other bug guns lose close ones would dishearten most but I heard about the kid he wrestled well before I saw him Austin do not break but rather came after him right away very proud I saw him back up a lot yet still at least double the other guys offensive attempts I know he was gassed at the end and it was smart of him to take his time when needed some kids will not take a break for anger or fear of looking weak I guess the big boys have to at times , didn't like the fleeing call without a leg I don't like them ever getting behind someone is a lot different than being in a scoring position maybe it was good being down by one forced the attack and it worked ,freshman or not and regardless hi weight or state no one can take anything from him or anyone on the team for that matter , results do not lie

I agree about Stephen and Kevin they both deserve to go out champs and they are actually friends in Oh even though they do nit admitt it all the northern studs seperate , but I also remember the Taylor Palmer match craze Wow it was insane of Taylor dominated in my opinion but it was much awaited .

As for Austin he would be an incredible 195 lber next yr but I doubt he cuts it would be good for Fargo useless for state I would rather him become the legit 220 he can at state should he choose to go hvy afterwards he might as well quit no one could dream of beating a 250 + lb Austin in ky he would never be tested by wrestler or coach at 220 he ha some good coaches at cc to work him over for now even a brave dad with some skill and heart from Holmes who gives him some goes .

Picture him with 20 or 3o more lbs of muscle at 220 and that is what you will see by his jr yr .

That was a nice match for Austin vs Robinson. Austin took it to Robinson for most of the match. The score wouldn't have been as close had Austin been able to finish a few of his shots. Not a knock on him, Robinson was huuuuuuge and it was his only advantage against Austin. Fleeing call was garbage true enough. Cooper and Stephen would be the match of the year in KY.

Otto you are right Austin could have scored a lot more although he seemed to back up more than normal he also had much more offense than the Indy kid he needs some work and a little rust knocked of a well but he proved he can hang with the best from other states , fleeing call was bad I thought but it happens ask Stephen . Otto I can't wait for the years ahead when Austin takes his A game north , if I were him I might start each practice by torturing everyone who calls me that ridiculous nickname they have him in grant county he was the truck now in cc he's a clown .. Funny stuff

Could see it a few times Stephen Poly Cooper and Hamilton are all 145 Hamilton weighed more than Stephen a week or so ago ! They should all wrestle in the Ironman tourny 4 man round Robbin make it five put Canter in as well Kevin Stephen and Jude in a three man round Robbin Iron man , no add Canter and Chamberle make it a five , same day Brock Jayce Faust and Reuchell 4 man ,

Austin Bryant and the Chicago hvy kid in a three ,

Throw the Jones in the mix and better yet add Fahy in with the five man and it's off the hook ,

Watching Fahy a couple weeks ago I would give him the nod folk style anyway freestyle I take Stephen Greco I would say Cooper but I don't know Stephen is tough in the tie ups over under cooper is a Russian machine Doubt Poly and Hamilton could Come close to the others in fr gr i would like to see Jude wrestle Greco he would probably be an AA with the work .

The jr class in Fargo will have some possible ky AAs for sure some may be GE same class .

195 or 220 will be the decision of the year a possible AA spot or get big for fall and next yr 220 probably Cooper at 145 should do well Stephen will be lazy and not cut leading to problems for him in my opinion not so big a deal for a first yr big boy to get beat sham too I would gladly lose 2 for every one of Stephens should he chose to cut to 45

Not for Austin though only 1 for 1

Mpire I can appreciate the speed and technique to hit those moves unfortunately I was a 6 foot 7 Heavyweight so finding the bigger guy was hard for me but i did actually hit a few of those moves when I wrestled and shock a few people when i demonstarte them in the practice room. The most speed I have ever experianced on the mat is when Lesnor comes to town to roll arond on the mat and breaks me into pieces with his double. Like I said I have only seen Steven on videos posted on here. I got the flu at the state tournament and didnt get to see him. Might see him next year if I come back to coaching

I think ride out has taken his stance on the subject because of speed .Stephen is rusty and needs solid Matt time I have seen him beat national ranked # 1s at 103 in HS. Beat kids like Whitford in practices and he has beaten top ranked kids before basically off of his speed when he was sharp if he gets back to form this year no one in the state could come close to him not downing anyone just stating a fact based on his history and what he can do .

He has loses recently to kids he should never have lost to hopefully he wakes up if not he has wasted his potential and long yrs of work . Of. Course it's funny I will get blamed for moves and losses but we moved many times before and thy always improved when they listened to reason and trained as I told them it's now up to him to sink or swim I tire of getting fingers pointed at me for being the father trainer I have always been I will let him learn and people will figure out sooner or later why things happen the way they do Anton who knows us sees who puts in the extra work in the gym and would on the Matt .

If Austin stays his course he achieves more than not only his brother but anyone ever in his new state in the sport If he whims to believe the falsehood that what got him there is not required to keep him improving he will start to stumble as well ,

I wandered of topic but I think it's a point some need to consider and maybe some young man will notice hey I need to listen to dad or coach they may just be right !

bobo smash

Okay why the hell would Paul H be posting on ky wrestling during school I mean seriously this is exactly the type of horseplaying mentality that keeps kida from reaching Thai potential I see Stephen Cooper and Hamilton in so many rooms and practices and it looks more like romper room than wrestling room it's giggle table top kick start the head ear flicking a shot or sprawl here or there but nothing resembling a real practice whatsoever , I mean between a certain Sk dad yelling at his 3 yr old to shoot and hit a move most HS sr couldn't hit and the horseplay of the three middleweight stooges it's a wonder any kid in NKY can wrestle at all.

At least Austin and a few others show up with game face on Faust obviously has learned how to tune Paul and Stephen out I hope the rest of CC do as well .

Imagine Fussy calling someone BOBO LoL school must be fun in the modern age I couldn't imagine surfing the net when I was at CC during school . But I guess at CC wrestlers get special treatment . I wonder what coach B thinks of his wrestlers love of the sport duiring school yet at open Matt's at least away from CC its total anarchy no wonder those coaches from SK get on Hamilton for goofing off Nice reply by Hamilton though "you like our rings" ,that's classic , good stuff and yep BO BO is going to smash clowns like Stephen and Hamilton giving good hardworking focused kids like Austin clown nicknames , it's irony at its best

Oh and just to clear this up Polley will be attendening Christian county next year not union.

Okay why the hell would Paul H be posting on ky wrestling during school I mean seriously this is exactly the type of horseplaying mentality that keeps kida from reaching Thai potential I see Stephen Cooper and Hamilton in so many rooms and practices and it looks more like romper room than wrestling room it's giggle table top kick start the head ear flicking a shot or sprawl here or there but nothing resembling a real practice whatsoever , I mean between a certain Sk dad yelling at his 3 yr old to shoot and hit a move most HS sr couldn't hit and the horseplay of the three middleweight stooges it's a wonder any kid in NKY can wrestle at all.

At least Austin and a few others show up with game face on Faust obviously has learned how to tune Paul and Stephen out I hope the rest of CC do as well .

Imagine Fussy calling someone BOBO LoL school must be fun in the modern age I couldn't imagine surfing the net when I was at CC during school . But I guess at CC wrestlers get special treatment . I wonder what coach B thinks of his wrestlers love of the sport duiring school yet at open Matt's at least away from CC its total anarchy no wonder those coaches from SK get on Hamilton for goofing off Nice reply by Hamilton though "you like our rings" ,that's classic , good stuff and yep BO BO is going to smash clowns like Stephen and Hamilton giving good hardworking focused kids like Austin clown nicknames , it's irony at its best

Did they even have the internet back then? LOL, just messing with ya.

No but they did have nickel phone booths .

I was in my computer class and had all my assignments done so I did. And I can't really imagine anyone putting in more time and effort than I have to wrestling. I like to have fun while wrestling and during my OFF season I think its okay to not have to go through a structured practice the whole time. Every kid needs a break

I agree with you PH.

It is a shame that high school sports has come to this. A kid can no longer be a kid and he must make a decision in middle school what sport he will play.

In the world today every kid (there are exceptions to every rule) must be a one sport wonder to compete. I blame the coaches for this. Football coaches have been the most notorious for this for the longest time.

Even in the stone age when I was in high school football coaches believed that a kid should be doing something for football all year round. Now it has bleed over to almost all sports.

It is the one thing that Coach B. has always maintained throughout his coaching career. Is that all kids need a break and summer wrestling is not to be taken seriously or done all year round.

I applaude this in a coach. High school sports are just what they are sports on the high school level to be played and enjoyed while playing.

Others may say that he has lost his integrity but I don't believe he has lost this belief in his advanced age (OK that was a joke, noting more nothing less).

Keep having fun PH no matter what others think. You only have 1 more year to be a kid then you will be an adult for the rest of your life with many more responsibilities that you wish you didn't have.

GOO out.

Wow I hope you do understand I was kidding a little in my post no need to go on a witch hunt and I hope you were no lecturing me or insinuating anything I know how good rooms are ran inn and off season my sons wrestled in the best one I have ever seen and it was structured just as the fun time was and kids still had some fun , but on a serious note , not as much goofing off as I have seen at Sk open matts by cc wrestlers and that is for real .now if I was being nasty I would tell a certain state champ had he conditioned and drilled some escapes as I told his mother he should be doing the last few weeks he would have won his OT match. That's a gd fact not sure how someone got pinned but hey practice makes perfect I actually didn't think one person would take my post seriously it was obvious I was trying to have fun and lighten up the mood but hey if you want to be serious shove all that play baby crap up someone else's keestet and I don't give two turds who likes or agrees with it I know what the best kida in the country are doing and they sure atelier hell are not wasting half a practice goofing off and hey they actually drill why the heck doesn't all the ky kida drill it's mind boggling ,as for who does what and who thinks what I don't really need lectured or care about that either I see the kida who are not wasting their parents time as well as the coaches who have the open Matt's are the ones who won the tight ones if it's going to be play Time maybe kida need to only go to places

S an wrestle kida who are there for a reason , to get better a little fun Is ok but losing because you only care about fun is ignorant not so fun getting pinned and whooped in OT , now go cry about some dad being to hard to some pansy ass that will listen I guess if getting your ass kicked is the norm it's no big deal but if you want to wrestle in college and not get stomped by kida you should beat don't be a dumbass and as for goo and his after HS comment well college I after HS now a kid gets to remember losing in OT to a kid he should have beat an someone else gets to remember he got his butt pinned ,but hey if kick starting someone's head at SK is more important than not getting beat in front of the nation hey to each his own , nice job cry babying great leadership qualities I am seeing deo

The upcoming srs but hey at least they get to cheer for the under lassie. Who are actually setting the right example . Now whine hate debate do whatever you like with what I said but if your smart you will understand I want a bunch of state champs on the team and another ring for everyone , and on a side note I will not tolerate all that crap for long from my own kids they can stay home and play x box if they want to waste time .visit Fargo and you will learn real fast who giggles and play duiring practice and who doesn't the giggles are setting in the stands on day 2 .

As for focusing on wrestling all yr if you were finger pointing , my kids both play football that should b fun time for Real wrestler but when the horseplay becomes the norm a losing an being second beat becomes ok even football will become harder than wrestling ,

BoBo smash .Cause BOBO trains more , Fussy and Giigles loose because they train less than BOBO , obvious BOBO has less ability but more brains / desire than giggles and FuzZy so when giggles and FuZzy graduate they can watch BOBO smash for quite a while .

On the other hand giggles and FuZzy could get their act together and do some serious smashing ,

Paul and GOO, Im in your corner on this.

They best wrestlers that I ever coached, knew when to be serious and knew how to have fun. and yes you can have fun in the wrestling room ( I believe if they would have gone to fargo they would have gotten AA status especially a certain 145 of mine that was 4-0 vs a kid who placed 3rd in senior nationals) My belief in coaching is that if you hold a handful of sand, the harder and longer you squeez more sand will fall out of your hand. I have been to several national tournaments as a wrestler and coach and have talked to coaches, they all believe you need fun in wrestling too. Thats what makes a successful coach like Bankamper. they understand the mix of being a athlete and a kid.

And on the college level I know they have fun on the practice field, I had some fun before with Coach Schnellenberger during practice

GOO always enjoy your replies

GOO , you can call bankemper old, he was coaching when we were wrestling in HS and I have 20 years of coaching in me

Obviously people take a post however they choose fun is a part of wrestling and if it wasn't fun no kid would want to do it just notice in HS when kid get to a point where they think they are good enough and do not need it they slack and I know the kids in ? Could and should do better why people keep bringing up coaches I have no clue I have also seen what it takes to be a double All American and a two Time All American and goofing off half a practice before national tournaments is not a part of the winning combination ,drilling training and focus are ,when play becomes more important than practice no one will win

As for the sand theory there are two ways to look at it sand is sand squeeze it together and make a castle .

Superman takes a lump of coal and squeezes it into a diamond .

No body said don't have fun but in case no one has noticed three is a movement in the state to improve you do not see kids at Graham Eds and I'm betting Blair and elsewhere acting foolish and wasting whole practices because they never hit a decent training tempo and you do not see any schools in Ky that can compete with them . But hey have fun it doesn't matter if a team wins state ten yrs in a row and a coach has been there since the big bang if you want to be good you train hard and focus and shoot for the best if you want to settle for being best where you are just rely on doing a little more than the next guy .

Personally i think this thread has taken a wrong turn for wrestling when people can't agree that you have fun but the main focus In a practice is to train then your in trouble go up to graham and learn what goes on in the off season and open Matt's it's a lighter mood but the coaches there would end practice and send everyone home if kida acted like I have seen in ky open Matt's . Funny thing is its the upperclassmen goofing off the youth and underclass men hit it hard they want it , it's bad examples they are setting .

I never saw David Taylor kick start anyone head or run around talking half the practice start his gos later than everyone else or be last when the coach blows his whistle to begin a match .

That's why there are no David Taylor's in Ky no Graham's no Blairs and not to many AAs HS or college , you have a chance to step up why waste it on backwards thinking witchunters who would rather say someone is being to hard than admitt what is obvious , hard work wins keep it fun and everyone knows when someone is slacking to much ,even the coaches mentioned have pointed it out ,

Time on the Matt doesn't mean to much when your talking and acting childish you could spend half the time in a room and be focused and accomplish more , and it shows come tournament time ,

Let's face it some of the kids in ? Spend more time on Xbox and message boards than they do training nice talking about too kida matches and rings nicer working to earn them .

IT'S A WRESTLING MAT!!!!! Matt is someone's name.

Just sayin'.

Know I had a Matt tell me after he won state they changed it , go to grant co and ask him . Phone settings

Mpire, I can appreciate your intensity and passion.

couple of opinions here though

great coaches in all sports will all agree, no athlete can keep focus 24/7 365. even fun can be had in the practice room now when it gets closer to Fargo or the next big tourney then the guys can regain it, some times with the rigors of wrestling the mind needs to heel too as well as the body.

as for not having any grahams or blairs here, our best or majority of our best athletes in this state dont wrestle (its a sad commentary but true) so wrestling isnt a priority in this state by the general sports world. even my old grizzled great uncle who was one of this states winningest football coaches didnt help the wrestling community. so there inlies the problem we dont have a tradition here. the big 2 sports we do have the equivelent to graham and blair in Trinity football and our basketball state in general. (we just dont have a prep academy like oak hill in bb because all of our teams participate for a state championship) and last but not least population creates competition, when you have more people participating you ave raised competition naturally. by the way we also have nationally ranked teams in other sports especially in soccer and i know those players have a little fun on the practice time.

I looked again at my post. I didn't say anythng about college wrestling. And those that know me know I don't really care about college wrestling. My love is HIGH SCHOOL wrestling. I don't believe that I have sat through one complete college match.

Much like basketball, I prefer NCAA basketball to the NBA. There are many reasons for this.

I guess the one thing that you (Mpire) and I disagree upon is what is successfull. To me being successful is up to the individual. Not everyone thinks they have to be the best to be successful. If that was true there would be a lot less upper classmen wrestling. If the only goal was to be the greatest most seniors would quit when they realize that goal could not be reached.

I was not taking a crack at anyone with the year round comment. I know many people who enjoy playing a certain sport year round, but when it becomes a job then its no longer fun.

I truely have no problem pushing kids to be better. However I believe you push them to be as good as they want to be. For some their goal is just to be a state champion and not compete in college or in a national tourney. For some it's just to qualify for the state tourney. I see nothing wrong with either. As long as when they graduate from high school they can look back and say i either accomplished everything I wanted to do, or did the best I could to achieve my goal.

I know many wrestlers that pushed themselves or were pushed by someone else (not pointing fingers) in high school and when they graduated never again wrestled or got involved with wrestling because the learned to hate the sport. I don't with that upon anyone.

With all this said. I hope thay you (Mpire) and your sons accomplish everything you set out to accomplish. I believe that both of them can accomplish whatever they set their sites on while on the wresting mat. They have the ability to be two of the best ever, anywhere. I also hope that that wrestler who just wants to be 500 accomplishes his gaol, and is proud of his accomplishment.

I understand all that how far someone wants to take it is up to them . On the other hand don't pretend to do more than the next guy when you do not don't brag about a ring and not do the work to earn it and don't hav multiple user names on boards and attempt to draw opposition away from you and on to the next guy because you don't want to work for that title .

If anyone wants to know what I am talking about pm me some kids are dirty little buggers playing people against each other ,what do you think Paul and yourself ridemout , get the picture old Mpire has been around a long time fellas I read people like a book I know a kids mind with a glance and I know when someone is fake or real .

Think about it wrestling fans

On that we shall both agree upon Mpire.

I just think it was break tine for me just a bit before nationals... I was worn out from wrestling from wrestling all season

I imagine you would be I saw some tough practices at CC but I know coach b said he was toning it down a bit at the end for most kids . What about you ridemout what do you think.

why are you asking me?

^{well you seem to know a lot about CC too i just figured you might know a thing or three about their practiceLOL}

yea. he is going to union next year. Hamilton and polly wrestled over the weekend and Polly pinned Hamilton, but Hamilton was pretty much in control the whole match, and got called on some rather questionable calls

Polly is not at Union ?????

STEPHEN MYERS AND KEVIN COOPER!!!!

I do believe that is the match most will want to see if it happens. sell tickets get both the schools some extra fund raising money. All for a good match. You would need to make sure its the last match of the night. You know the headline match is always at the end.

GMVA they may both be at 152 ,but that class may be the toughest 152 class they have ever seen there maybe the deepest ever in that tournament , 3 st champs an Iron Man runner up and then some .

They may have to have the match Of their lives in order to meet up , hopefully the fates let them meet in the finals but I doubt the bracketers do , two ky state champs on opposite sides may not be to their liking .