Let's see if I can get everyone back on track. I still have some things to updates from the summer, but there is enough to get some discussion going.

2012_2013 High School Rankings Aug 20.xlsx

2012_2013 High School Rankings Aug 20.pdf

Thank you Ranger for doing this. Alot of work but appreciated.

Ranger, I always think you do a great job however Corey Ahern at #6 I dont agree with. I think he can win this weight class. I can't wait to see him match up with Logan Jones in our region. Also, it may be too early for me but I can't find Trevor Lawson. If he goes 106, he's definately top 10. Everyones a critic right! lol!!

Hamilton will go 45 and go for the win,Lane will go 70 and go for rhe win ,Hiero will go 82 for the win ,

Just a hunch ,

Terner and Mathews can both place a bit higher I believe giving CC some extra points .

Ahern and Hamilton should be good if they are the same weight before state

Not being a critic at all just making some guesses that are obvious good moves for some .

No Lawson ?No Binder ? Again not being a critic but are the classes that deep or jr high simply doesn't get added in till game time or both maybe .

Ranger, thanks for the updates. Hope your summer went well. I have been off the reservation for the past few months. One thing that totally snuck up on me is Nathan Boston. Kid is an absolute stud. I try to follow a little bit of Indiana wrestling seeing we used to wrestle across the river there quite a few times a year. When did this move to woodford co happen? Glad to see the state steadily getting stronger if this is true. Second, I know Robbie Dezember had to cut a few pounds last year to make 106 so I'm willing to bet that if 113 is open in the union lineup, he's vying for that spot. It's a shame robert smith (middle school MOW) most likely will be out of a varsity position. Oxford or Sheffer at 106 for union is my prediction. Other than that, I haven't heard too many updates from the western part of KY.

Ranger, I always think you do a great job however Corey Ahern at #6 I dont agree with. I think he can win this weight class. I can't wait to see him match up with Logan Jones in our region. Also, it may be too early for me but I can't find Trevor Lawson. If he goes 106, he's definately top 10. Everyones a critic right! lol!!

At 145 I see Polley and then the next 5 guys (all pretty close). 2-6 could be any order. I have not fit Trevor in there. I think there are many more questions around him (younger, less proven, more questions about weight). Let's see him on the mat first.

Hamilton will go 45 and go for the win,Lane will go 70 and go for rhe win ,Hiero will go 82 for the win ,

Just a hunch ,

Terner and Mathews can both place a bit higher I believe giving CC some extra points .

Ahern and Hamilton should be good if they are the same weight before state

Not being a critic at all just making some guesses that are obvious good moves for some .

No Lawson ?No Binder ? Again not being a critic but are the classes that deep or jr high simply doesn't get added in till game time or both maybe .

I'm not sold on Hamilton making 145. I didn't think he would make 138 last season and he did. But he is much bigger this time around. I agree 100% on Matthews. He is a great athlete and has worked in a fair amount of mat time around his football schedule (a lot of kids would use that as an excuse to skip out). But I don't think Turner has put in the time to warrant being higher.

Many of the middle school kids are incorporated. I see 106 as being potentially as deep as I have seen it in a while. Bindner will have to step up his game to beat many of these kids who were battling for spots at the big show last year. I don't know that Lawson will make 106.

Andrew Ackley is going 113? My son wrestled him last year at The USA Wrestling Kentucky State at 128 and I was impressed with the kid..... But 113? I guess anythings possible but that does seem like a big loss.

#15 Mike Hunt at 285 is a Soph.

Andrew Ackley is going 113? My son wrestled him last year at The USA Wrestling Kentucky State at 128 and I was impressed with the kid..... But 113? I guess anythings possible but that does seem like a big loss.

I haven't seen any results for Ackley this summer; so i didn't see him in a 128 bracket. I have moved up the kids that I am confident will be moving up. Otherwise I leave them for now. Plus, with those small brackets, the bracket weight means little as many kids are grouped together. Who knows what he weighed that day.

Elijah miller is going 195. the kid has put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle.. Chamblee is going 182 according to him. I THINK MILLER WIILL SUPRISE A LOT OF PEOPLE! Chamblee and him go at it at open mats and its pretty even.

ukpridewrestler11,

Thanks for the kind words about Nathan. We moved over the summer due to aging grandparents. LN hired a great coach but we had the opportunity to move back to Woodford so we did. Ranger, Trevor will make 106 but ultimately it is Joe Joe and Mr. Coach Carr's decision where he goes.

I'm not sure many of the cc wrestlers who are playing football are getting any extra work or wrestling in at all except 1 who I know is ,its a pretty hectic schedule I'm not sure who was hitting open mats before but Turner was there some , all I know is he earned his spot is a good athlete and will be wedged between Stephen Hamilton and Mathews and have a few others eying his spot , I think he hits the podium in the setting he will be training in or maybe I'm just hopeful we will see .

I have never seen Hamilton look as if he had overly cut i think he can make 45 or 47 without killing himself it may not seem the best move for the team but it would be at a state setting where the higher placers earn points

first post on last thread said Hamilton would be at 45.....

you can post anything you want. doesn't mean i'm going to believe it. i'll swing by the hs in a few weeks and if he steps on the scale below 160 i will start to believe.

and mpire what do you think would be best for the CC team? And just stepped on the scale yesterday and weighed 161.4 so close enough, soph, jr, and now sr. no one believes the weight i say and i always make it. Except once a year

I don't know 161.4 to 147 from off season to inn season weight 14.lbs your sr yr for the big one thats not that big of a drop to me I have seen one of your teammates drop that in a week when they were in jr high and in good shape already ,114 to 98 in two weeks . I have seen kids drop that almost every week in the season Bracetta wrestled 119 for graham and weighed over 130 most of the season .

It depends on how someone performs how they do it and what's best for them I'm sure there are lots of projected kida that can make lighter weights with no problem if they wanted I know some on your team who can cut a bunch when they want to , but when a kid doesn't have to or a team or coach doesn't want them to they very quickly lose motivation too .

If I were a sr and had a shot at a state title I would do whatever it took be it up down train 5 hrs a day lift run wrestle wouldn't matter you only live once.

As far as the team goes wherever you end up placing highest will Benifit the team the most in most cases juggling guys around to get a few points by moving someone who can do better lower up backfires . But it's all a gamble just do your best and it all works itself out your room is good enough to get whatever your team needs out of it

What about the one that was bumped out at the end of last year? Bachman? Is he not at CC anymore or not wrestling? I didn't see him on the rankings. And I heard he tore it up at the Chilocothy (SP) duals this summer.

Along with that I don't see Brad Krebs on the list. He did a fantastic job for CC at the beginning of the year.

Well he's a good kid but you can't rank him if he's not going to make the team can you bro I don't know squat about chillicothe except it's full of crasy chicks ,but I was at the bluegrass games and I know ranger got the results and those were ky boys and he had a bad day to say the least , not being mean at all being honest if someone makes the team they can get ranked then , and FYI Stephen isn't no transfer now and he's one bad mo fo getting jacked up for college and i wouldn't get in his way no matter who I Was or what history I had with anyone .

I like him but he hasn't shown me he is a top contender for state or even to be a high placer he could be the nicest kid in the world he could be Donald Trump or Cael Sandersons son i don't give a pigs eye if you can't cut the mustard you don't make the team and this team isn't last years .

What about the one that was bumped out at the end of last year? Bachman? Is he not at CC anymore or not wrestling? I didn't see him on the rankings. And I heard he tore it up at the Chilocothy (SP) duals this summer.

Along with that I don't see Brad Krebs on the list. He did a fantastic job for CC at the beginning of the year.

Bachman will fall right into the heart of the CC lineup, where there is a lot of depth. If he cracks the lineup he becomes a definite challenger for a podium spot.

Not sure if Krebs will make it back to 106/108. If he does he will battle to make the list. But as i said before, this may be as deep as I have seen the little guys.

Let me answer this question.

HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE RANKED.

Now I say this with love since he's my boy. But he has done nothing to get ranked yet. He did have a great day in Chilicothy, but had terrible days at Cincy state and Bluegrass games. The only consolation is that he was wrestling 170 at Cincy and Bluegrass and 160 in Chilocothy.

Depending on what Hamilton and Stephen does will determine what he does. Other than those two he should be able to defeat any of the others. I know they have been talking and Kent says he can go down to 145 (I don't thik he can) if need be, but if Homilton makes 145 then he will be wherever Stephen is not 152/160. Otherwise I'm not sure he will go 170, or what he will do.

But he has to get his head on straight. I know as do others that when he has his head on straight there are very few that he cannot seriously compete with in KY. On the other hand when his head is not there there are few that he can defeat. Those that know Kent know he is a late season wreslter. He limps into the season and usually ends a lot better in the post season. (he has done this almost his entire wrestling career).

Let me answer this question.

HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE RANKED.

But if he earns a spot in the upper half of that lineup he WILL BE RANKED.

Bachman can make the team at the right weight and a wrestle off win,but how can you rank him when you have no clue where he will be except guess ,he's probably like Paul and Stephen and some of the others they can wrestle at about three classes or more and be effective I'm not so sure anyone knows where Corbin is going either .

Woods is a hard worker and a good kid, but the only chance he has of cracking the lineup is to go 138 or beat Bachman where ever he may end up. He can't beat Hamilton or Myers, and I don't think he is strong enough to knock Turner out of a spot. As GOO says just my opinion take it or leave it. This is a perfect case of where the weight class changes last year are going to potentially knock a dedicated, good wrestler out of a spot.

That sound about right unless Hamilton is 52 and Woods is 45 Im not sure Bachman can cut below 52 i dont have a clue ,Corbin can obviously wrestle lower than Bachman , he was looking to make a huge jump but i doubt 170 was in the picture,and Turner is to big to strong ,

Krebbs-106(weighed 110 since you were wondering ranger)

Maggort-113

Sparh-120

Humphrey-126

Fausz-32

woods- 38

Hamilton - 45

Bachman/Myers-52/60

Turner-70

Matthews-82

Keaton-95

Myers-220

HVY-??

That is the only lineup that is ethical for CC to win state again.

that would be a nice lineup. not sure it will happen.

That looks about right ridemout.im not hip on the lighter guys as much Woods may not be happy but I don't see why everyone cannot make those weights it's up one for Hamilton so what would be the problem for him making weight same for Woods , but the sr piggys better get busy if they want to win state again the wolves are at the door ,It will probably take four champs again or more and it would be nice to recruit that big lineman to go hvy he has some experience already and with the right work he could surprise people but that's a stretch for now . You need 4 champs or more and about as many more placers to seal the deal , get your team in gear no time like the present and all , still there may be some surprises weight wise , it actually looks like things just took a shift in CC direction as far as new

Moves in weight Fauz should get the W he deserves . And another projected champ is huge why anyone would think someone could not make a weight in high school that was one up from th previous year I do not know .I'm sure a lot of kids could move up and some down Austin in particular but 220 should be comfortable and he should be more of a legit 220 this year he's down to 225 now . And headed to 220 this weekend on his quest to be a state and national champ in another sport .

I guarantee hE won't seem so cuddly this week more like a grumpy old bear .

It is tough to make a weight up one class when:

1) that weight wasn't an easy cut last year

2) you put on 30 pounds or 4 weight classes

3) that weight was not from lifting and working out

Not saying it can't happen, because i know Hamilton can cut some weight. Just saying I don't see it at this point. Nor do I see Woods getting to 138. I'll have the scale with me on Sept 14-15 at CCHS for our camp and will get a true gauge on what these guys are weighing.

It is tough to make a weight up one class when:

1) that weight wasn't an easy cut last year

2) you put on 30 pounds or 4 weight classes

3) that weight was not from lifting and working out

I would have to disagree with you on this point. It makes it easier to lose the weight if it was not put on by lifting. That means its all fat not muscle.

I was about to say the same thing grappler you are absolutely right ,and I agree with you as well at least on Woods it may b hard for him to make 38 his weight is not all fat but I hear he cut very hard last yr maybe he does it this year .And I don't know about all this head on straight talk kids peak those furthest out of shape or wrestling mode may peak a bit more. Bottom line a repeat would be huge Stephen was 172 today and not as chunky as he was at 180 but I think he may go 182 he is already tired of cutting Mathews 195 Keaton 220 and Austin hvy . This would fill the lineup .

what about team match ups? more in a dual sense, which is normally pretty close to tournament turnouts but how about someone put up the top 5 teams against each other. In what you think is the lineup as of now

Ridemout ,Duals very very often have different turnouts than tournaments depending on the sise of the tournament ,with a bigger tournament more of the decent but not top kids get taken out of the picture ,the team with the biggest number of high placers and champs usually wins a big tournament because they continue to score till the finish.

A team that has four studs like a Monroeville in Ohio had in years past could win a state title yet be beaten numerous times in duals duiring the year .

Take Campbell County for instance they lost to Ryle last year yet were well ahead of them at State .and before anyone says anything they still would have been .

You are incorrect. Campbell would have won the dual with another higher wt ie(220)

Good point. Fat is easier to lose. BUT my point is more around motivation.

Haven't seem the activity on the mat that in my mind equals motivation which equals

Likelihood to make a big cut. For example, if fausz said he was cutting to 120 or even

113 I would not question it.

Mpire - looks like you are backpeddling on these guys making the originally stated weights.

For the record, I know fausz is a beast in the weight room and focused on getting better, not smaller.

yea 6 going on 7 summer camps and 2 national level wrestling meets since season has ended with the open mats isnt a lot of summer work....

Ranger that was an inside joke that only about 99% of kentucky got, leaving you in the 1% and possibly only person who didnt get it ,no way stephen goes 182 he will be 160 or 152 unless he grows a bunch and i doubt it ,if he were the Stephen of old he would be shooting for 145 .

Paul i know i give you crap but i got your back on this one just as i did on you making 45 ,he has been to open mats and has competed this summer ,And i think they are all focused on getting better ,can they do more yes some and probably all but its not like they are doing or have done nothing ,my worry is will their playbaby"Stephen and Pauls" attitude i see at summer open mats carry over i hope and think not or someone may Kill them Both .LOL

Ranger i appreciate what you do but negativity isn't the best way to get results all the time give someone a little credit on occasion I give Hamilton a lot of crap some of it fun some of it serious but he is good and CC would not have and will not win state without him .

Fauz wouldn't be able to walk if he even attempted to make 113 thats ridiculous and at 120 he would be to weak that is and was a bad idea from the start .

Paul did you notice your cuddly 220 lb teddy bear shrinking this week he is down to striking range of 220 about six to go and should make it to 220 SAT dont let him cheat tommorow ,

Ranger that was an inside joke that only about 99% of kentucky got, leaving you in the 1% and possibly only person who didnt get it ,no way stephen goes 182 he will be 160 or 152 unless he grows a bunch and i doubt it ,if he were the Stephen of old he would be shooting for 145 .

Paul i know i give you crap but i got your back on this one just as i did on you making 45 ,he has been to open mats and has competed this summer ,And i think they are all focused on getting better ,can they do more yes some and probably all but its not like they are doing or have done nothing ,my worry is will their playbaby"Stephen and Pauls" attitude i see at summer open mats carry over i hope and think not or someone may Kill them Both .LOL

Ranger i appreciate what you do but negativity isn't the best way to get results all the time give someone a little credit on occasion I give Hamilton a lot of crap some of it fun some of it serious but he is good and CC would not have and will not win state without him .

Fauz wouldn't be able to walk if he even attempted to make 113 thats ridiculous and at 120 he would be to weak that is and was a bad idea from the start .

Paul did you notice your cuddly 220 lb teddy bear shrinking this week he is down to striking range of 220 about six to go and should make it to 220 SAT dont let him cheat tommorow ,

My sentiment exactly. I was going to say you might want to check Fauzs's pulse at 113 or 120. I understand your point, but don't think you could even take Sean seriously with that kind of cut in mind.

6 or 7 summer camps cmon............. ,camp outs dont count wrestling camps do ,you and your girl roastin marshmallows and makin smores gettin fat and rolling around CC park aint a wrestling camp LMAO

i dont like marshmallows, i prefer hamburgers, but then i guess i really havent done any summer work then because i thought that counted?

Mr M, I've had Paul's back plenty of times the last couple years, and not just on a wrestling forum. And as you like to say, you made my point for me.

"will their playbaby"Stephen and Pauls" attitude i see at summer open mats carry over". Just showing up at open mats or rolling around at a couple of camps does not equate to getting better. I've given Paul his due as he has made huge strides the last couple season. He is probably one of the most improved wrestlers in the state over that time. But, as you know, playing around does not get you to the top of the podium.

Obviously it is ridiculous for Fausz to cut to 113 or 120. My point was that he has a motivation like very few I have seen so if he told me he was going to make it I would believe him.

I understand you are a Fausz fan as am i ,but as far as The playbaby comments i made you left out the rest of my post where i said i think they will not"and they might get killed if they do " and in those same Open mats where i saw them playbabying i could name some pretty good KY kids doing just as much of the same so i wouldnt single them out and i feel to blame somewhat because i am the one who draws attention to their lack of effort .As for stephen i push him as hard as i can and i have pushed him and he has pushed himself harder than anyone could imagine under circumstances most would give up on ,but high school has a way of slowing a kid down distractions here and there and simply being burnt out not on the sport but the drama and bs that goes with it and life ,sometimes its not a kids fault or its just his time to chill .

As a trainer and someone who has trained his whole life and many many times over trained to the point of injury and sickness ,i know that its far better for a kid to show up and be less than 100% motivated than to not show up at all at times .

As for camps kids rarely soak what goes on at them up in one go around it takes repitition as much as focus, muscle memory and all that .

My personal problem is if they get together and bs around duiring the year it will kill their team i dont see the coaches letting it happen ,their team lives or dies with them .And i hope to see them getting extra work in as well ,as far as being lax i could say that about the whole situation i would like to see open mats a couple times a week when EVERYONE can make them ,as in the Football team five or more starters can never get on the mat and even if its only half hearted or lax it would be better than no time at all ,so if your pointing fingers spread the love .

I'm only pointing at the kids being discussed. I've spent many, many hours in that room over the last few years and I know those kids (except 2) and coaches as well as almost anyone on here (except GOO). There is a lot of potential on that team. But for those guys that need to step up and fill the big shoes left by Yenter and Franck it will take more than potential. They need to work and earn a higher spot on the podium; 3rds and 6ths won't get it done this year. Need a couple more champs to contend with Union.

I totally agree with you and have said the same ,as for the two one can do a little more but has a full plate and can turn it on at the drop of a pin and the other can not do any more than he does when hes not on a field hes in a gym or on the internet watching matches or on a mat .they won with four champs last year and the pressure is on for four more but apply that pressure to everyone it seems that if one or a couple of the four were to falter the sky would fall everyone needs to do their part i heard it in the stands last year well our big guns will make it up ,i didnt like it then and i dont like it now its a big thing to be state Champs and even bigger to be back to back State champs they need to work harder than ever . EVERYONE

hey now I saw my name in that post. Don't pull me into the line of fire. I don't need Odin, Thor and Loki looking for me.

LOL no line of fire at all ,just my nature to feel sorry for slackers LOL,I mean kids , I have gotten on them in the past as well its all good and i know everyone likes all the kids and are just trying to help them .

either way i say he can make 145 and it should make things intersting .

C,mon GOO you know it's football season and after watching the game today and that egomaniacal state champ that for some reason cannot be a running back or linebacker because all big wrestlers are lineman bust through ,over, and carry most of Milfords JV team down the field literally ,its not Thor its Earl Campbell at Campbell County ,I guess no one there ever heard of Ray Lewis ,You have to love it when someone tells a kid he can't or he's not able and he is and does .

Lol. Nathan Thompson is quite a bit bigger than last year..

Don't matter

Is Campbell intending on hitting any big season tourney's, e.g. ironman, swowca etc.

We tried to get into ironman and coundnt as well as swoca

WOW I wonder where this is heading , 1 post and your asking if CC is doing any big in season tournys , this has been discussed to death already , I heard they were 1st on the list for Swowca and got dropped a half dozen spots after..... Winning state but who knows ... And I heard nothing about them trying to get into Iron Man , they probably have enough guns to get in as far as the tournament director is concerned not so sure about the khsaa or the school itself trying to enter .

Who told you they tried and could not ?i think they have a big tourny in Ill or IN planned but nothing like Powerade or Iron Man , I would like to see them do west virginia duals and I think they are in gmva or whatever it is called and I hear it is loaded .

Ky should have a team at one of the big three tournys , Cheese Head , Powerade or Iron Man ,

Regardless as a state I saw them come together over the summer and do well at a nat tourny and I saw a few CC kids place at grade nationals even bring back an OW , That may be where Ky can shine but with Jayce , Cooper , Stephen and some other srs out of the picture this year a repeat may be hard but you never know Boston being added to the team will help and some of the underclasmen will surely step up and two ky studs went undefeated there last year and will be back ,

I know I went off topic but I saw a post that was suspect ,

and yes ky will have some AAs next yr , because I said so and my arrogant kid LOL is going to rewrite some record books and give the good folks in CC something to really gossip about no hvy he will be 220 or 195 ,and a year full of pinning everyone that doesn't forfeit ,just because a kid doesn't hoot and holler on a ball field doesn't mean he is arrogant ,,Just because someone doesn't like pops posts doesn't give anyone the right to blackball a kid and just because a kid isnt all fired up to play a position he never has does not mean he is not a team player stereotyping a kid before you even see him work is ignorant just like pee wee sports politics ,

No crybaby parents cliques or coaching preferences matter in wrestling its you the guy across from you and thats it ,its wonderful no arrogance its win or lose one on one .

"No crybaby parents cliques or coaching preferences matter in wrestling its you the guy across from you and thats it ,its wonderful no arrogance its win or lose one on one ."

Ahhh...isn't that the great thing about this sport?

Well its that and all the extras ,Following wrestling is like watching the Olympics, Ultimate fighter ,Wife Swap ,and Cheaters all wrapped up in one . more arguments than the Hatfields and McCoys and theres always a trade move or switch in the mix just like the Pros .

I like watching those reality shows but they pale in comparrison to wrestling and some of the fun we have ,i could mention a bunch of parents"myself included" some i have met some i have only heard of and everyone would crack up but im not going to talk about like that

PinAndWin .my dad went to divorce court came back to work after leaving me in charge of his work crew and tried to hit me with a Monkey Wrench and i had to set him straight ,wasn't even my mom he went to court with sooooo it happens

Why do you have to bring the McCoy's into it.....lol

You know you have your part in all this wrestling drama , it just makes it more understandable now looking back at your Famous or Infamous Family tree , you seem to be a calming fair and good influence on the sport , and it's good you take most of the bs for what it is stirred up drama , how do you think the Blue Grass Games would go over if you had them a week or so earlier made them an iron man as far as freestyle Greco and Folkstyle , it would give everyone a tune up for Fargo and still draw all the folkstyle kids , the time ran well maybe do it over two days , just a thought !

I think Frank Rosario from Tilghman should be on the 120 list. I mean, he didnt wrestle at state because he and Osa from Christian ended wresltling in the consolations for third and fourth at regionals because osa lost to Caldwells kid, and Osa beat Frank in a close over-time match. Hes also beat beat Miller and Pointer from Moore...he's onto something.

S . Myers will cert at 152

A . Myers will cert at 195

Mpire, Talk about match ups this year. Ryle looks pretty good head to head. Tell Stephan to be nice now.

Stephens mad he's not touching enough pigskin these days great rushing avg just not any amount of runs to be happy about he was going 160 but I think he goes 152 and if he does it will be from start to finish I do not like KYs decent rules they are not fair and create uneven scenarios , other states you make your weight your in , why would a ki dropping to 195 or 220 want to get caught only a lb or so from weight because of the decent by a kid 30 or so lbs heavier , it's more than unfair it's unhealthy and dangerous . Not sure about Austin he probably starts at 220 and stays all way through but 19 is very possible he is only a few over 220 and .

Visiting Lehigh in a few weeks ha a few other prospects Bucknell OU and 1 D2 school that is full of his former teammates friends an fellow state champs from OH , if he's happy

Happy , Hope he steps it up I would love for everyone to see what he is really capable of I think if he goes where hibfriends are it will actually inspire him rather than hinder him he is well respected they are older and will push him hard I think he could be a multiple x NCAA champ in the right setting and being around his friends and former coaches in OH would help .

CC over SK 29 to 28 , takes a little sting out of the homecoming heartbreaker.

Oh sorry wrong site LOL

Austin in at 222,195 is very possible ,

I do not like KYs decent rules they are not fair and create uneven scenarios , other states you make your weight your in , why would a ki dropping to 195 or 220 want to get caught only a lb or so from weight because of the decent by a kid 30 or so lbs heavier , it's more than unfair it's unhealthy and dangerous .

I would have thought you would like Ky decent rules. It teaches kids to keep their weight down all year. It teaches a kid to eat healthy and not to binge. That way a kid does not gain 10-15 lbs every week or so then drop the weight again. It also incourages kids to make weight at the beginning of the season instead of waiting for the end of the season. If they make the weight class they want at the beginning and stay there then they will not have to give up weight when they are dropping a wt. class.

I do like that my sons first HS coaches told him to make his weight all year that's how they dd it with everyone but they lied he was the only kid on the entire team that wrestled his weight allllllll yr "except the heavy "as a fresh everyone else went up and down ,

I do agree in a way But and it a big but a whole season of cutting is unhealthy I know the effects of dieting for a prolonged period it wrecks your mind it literally deprives your brain of carbs and makes you not care about anything , every few weeks a body needs to re energise and KY decent plan does not allow that it's not helpful to the kids and it's unhealthy . As I said getting caught at te bottom of a weight class is bs , and I know many coaches want kids hvy in the beginning of the yr for various reasons mostly because your studs will be dropping duiring the yr and it works in to the plans . And with te allowance it changes things 2 lbs is a big boost to some kids .

Btw none of it matters to me as far as my kids go they have not cut hard in a long time .

I simply state how I feel on the subject as a whole and the decent plan in ky is very flawed in my opinion .

Hey Moore do you ever shut up???

I don't think there's anything to adjust.

Mpire, empty your pm box so I can send you a message.

Sure thing ,

Just noticed the enquirer All Star HS sports edition old news I know , nice of them to notice the transfer after X mas , hope they notice the points scored next year that they overlooked this yr and maybe the fact that the biggest freshman state champ in ky history snatched a fresh ow a few weeks later , of course I will remind them not that it matters in the world of politics .

The state results from last year show Cody Floyd from central Hardin would have graduated last year

Not much longer now looking forward to wrestling and it's put up or shut up truth that makes it so much different than team sports where your destiny is in the hands of others .

Hopefully all the football players can avoid major injuries and be ready to go not happy seeing any wrestler in a brace after a close call particularly my own son , headhunters live by the sword and die by the twisted ankle concussion or stinger or worse god forbid . It's dangerous out there in the killing fields , congrats to CC on a nice comeback win over Dixie , it was a carbon copy of what happened to CC on their own homecoming night game , guess they would trade it for the inner div win though .

Awful lot of CC wrestlers on the football field headed to playoffs duiring wrestling season making the basketball excuse for starting late idiotic ,

Newsflash ; there are not any Basketball players on the wrestling team LOL but there ha and always will be a wrestler or a a half dozen or so on the football field

WOW the silence is scary , it must be the calm before the storm !!!!

The real storm doesn't start for 2 months

Pinem all

Everyone

Every last one of em

Does anyone know when the rankings will be out?

If I had to guess (and I do have to guess), I would expect them about Nov 20th. That is the about when competetion can begin. All or at least most skin fold testing will be finished and most will have a good idea of what wt. they can make and compete at.

Thompson from desales is going 126 and Standafer is going 120. ELkins is probably going 132 Miller is probably going 38 or 45

Cody Floyd From Hardin has already graduated....

Austin Myers certified at 195 today

He certified today? The only way you can certify is by going to a scheduled wretling meet and weighing in.

Do you mean he met his Skin fold test goal of 195?

I mean he is fat enough to make 195 after weighing inn !Maybe 182 , perhaps 138 .

I think you would have to cut off a leg or two to make 138.

Ouch he's only been using one since near the end of that Ballard game that CC totally outplayed those guys in and somehow lost by a point , one of those moments you feel

Real bad for a bunch of hard working kids , it just happens and scores sometimes do not show the reality of the game , oh well a bad bad kicking day from one bad ass kicker who everyone still knows is a stud . No biggie except all the little injuries to CC wrestlers who gave it their all down the home stretch of the Football season , nothing major but a road bump for sure , all should be 100 % very soon .

Say by the Rumble

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not, but you can remove Fort Knox's Rayvin Edayan (No. 17 at 103), Andre Dean (No. 10 at 138) and Paul Michitsch (No. 17 at 152). Those guys are no longer at Fort Knox, per Coach Cullen.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not, but you can remove Fort Knox's Rayvin Edayan (No. 17 at 103), Andre Dean (No. 10 at 138) and Paul Michitsch (No. 17 at 152). Those guys are no longer at Fort Knox, per Coach Cullen.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not, but you can remove Fort Knox's Rayvin Edayan (No. 17 at 103), Andre Dean (No. 10 at 138) and Paul Michitsch (No. 17 at 152). Those guys are no longer at Fort Knox, per Coach Cullen.

that's the tough part for any of the ft. Knox programs. Kids never stay from middle school through high school. Your luck to have them two-four years.... The high quality kids coming into the community normal live off post and attend Hardin county schools. You bring all those kids back to Knoxthey have a much stronger sports programs....

I wouldn't say it never happens, because it does. It's just extremely rare for a kid -- especially these days -- to stay all four years.