Myers / Lampe ,French

Myers / Bryant

There you go chat away .

Sahms/Perez

Haywood/Moore 160.

Has the pools been set yet? This would definately tell the story! Maybe a Fauz Lawson, or Hall Dezember. Love to see the lighter weights battle.

A lot of battles at 113, Hall, Rearic, and Emerson

Rearic is not there, lafayette finished 4th at sectionals

I heard they were inn.

Dezember at 113 isn't a slouch either.

UK- I agree.

Moore is small school right?

Moore is small school right?

Yep.

Is wilbanks back yet at 170 for Moore ? Heard he was wrestling at the Dragon. Would love to know how he did .. Thanks

are you sure i dont think bryant and myers wont wrestle bryants at hvy @mpire

Bump

Lets have a little fun and make an allstar dual.North and east verses south and west Oldham county goes south,franklin and lexington north and east.So build teams and great matches by bumping weights .We should really do this I bet it would be a great event and a good way to prepare for nationals.

Let me guess louisville union and Woodford vs Nky , or basically the whole state vs Nky ,

There's all

Kinds of dividing lines I would say .

Let's make it really Really fun

Public vs Private .

No actually I think woodford would be in the eastern part with lexington but we will take them if you dont want them.Cant go public vs private cause we aint giving up our boys in the southwest corner.

"your boys " in the south west corner , I wouldn't give them up either , if they were mine . I wouldn't give up Woodford if they were mine either , they have a bright future .

Almost as bright as Campbell County's ,

My opinion is private should have there own state tourney in everything.

Interesting , the argument in the other thread about "is wrestling a team sport" is that it is a team sport because you rely on your teammates as training partners and for support , so if your teammates come from a larger area and from all over and the best seek out the best to get better . Then it's a huge advantage , I see in other states the private schools actually have their own version of a state or at least a private "private school "only tournament , but their is not a public school only tournament in those states at least not officially called that , of course many tournaments are invite only .

Nothing to do with this thread really as it is about state Duals this weekend but it is interesting In many other states private schools dominate for that very reason , either private or schools with open enrollement have huge advantages , in all sports ,

Perhaps Kentucky can hold out for a while or for good in some sports .

Back to topic , it will be interesting to see how coaches bump and move kids around in attempts to win some

Of the tight duals .it's always one of the

major differences between duals and tournys .

My opinion is private should have there own state tourney in everything.

Isn't the khsaa trying to do that anyway ? Seriously I've heard that several times not just in wrestling but every sport.

Forgive my ignorance here but is there a senior all star tournament in wrestling ?

 

Like they do in football/ basketball etc if there is I've just never heard anything about it. If there isn't I'd say sure just put NKY vs the rest of the state usually these things are political but I personally put them on for softball teams because at the time there wasn't one.

I think it could be arranged , perhaps for a charity ooooooorrrrr to raise Mass Money for Team KY ,

Since its NKY vs the rest of the state it's in NKY

I think Ohio has wrestle for autism ,

It would be neat to have some big matchups and raise some money for wrestlers or a good cause .Ryle or Sk would probably host something like that , Boone County actually has a neat gym for wrestling events air maybe Connor . Perhaps they could actually have two events. One in Nky and one in Louisville or Lexington. It I guess with state being in Lex there would be no need .

Make it a Three way Tournament after state before Fargo to get kids ready .

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Isn't the khsaa trying to do that anyway ? Seriously I've heard that several times not just in wrestling but every sport.

I know

They have talked about it in the past. I hope they do it. The private schools just have such a advantage in sports like football and basketball. Wrestling not so much. But if you did it in one sport you would have to do it in all

I think they have just as much advantage in wrestling if not more , it's the same good kids from larger areas coming to play sports on a team full of other good kids and wrestling good kids is more of a factor in getting better than say playing football with better kids , it's easily more of an advantage in wrestling , anyone who goes to a good open mat room would agree very quickly . it's not a bad thing if your a parent to want the best for your kid at all , but it's a school question , its a huge advantage ,

I think they have just as much advantage in wrestling if not more , it's the same good kids from larger areas coming to play sports on a team full of other good kids and wrestling good kids is more of a factor in getting better than say playing football with better kids , it's easily more of an advantage in wrestling , anyone who goes to a good open mat room would agree very quickly . it's not a bad thing if your a parent to want the best for your kid at all , but it's a school question , its a huge advantage ,

Yea I guess your right. Good point

I asked julian tacket a while back about an all star match and his reply was there can be no varsity wrestling that occurs after the state tourney. Not sure if that can be changed but a senior all star matchup would be excellent. Also if it could include us vs other states...that would be cool too.

Lets have a little fun and make an allstar dual.North and east verses south and west Oldham county goes south,franklin and lexington north and east.So build teams and great matches by bumping weights .We should really do this I bet it would be a great event and a good way to prepare for nationals.

Top 2 teams at state duals big school.... Nky dominance...

Lets have a little fun and make an allstar dual.North and east verses south and west Oldham county goes south,franklin and lexington north and east.So build teams and great matches by bumping weights .We should really do this I bet it would be a great event and a good way to prepare for nationals.

I had enough fun for one yr today , I don't know about anyone else but SK looked better than anyone expected , pretty impressive both reg 6 teams in finals , I will take NE big schools by a landslide , and small schools I would probably give SW the edge but who knows NE has some small school studs as well , Jones Bros and some others , great matches today missed most of them you can't soak everything up when your focused on your own kids and their team , the middle weight classes in Ky are loaded with talent and so are the rest , saw some weird reffing but ,

Not my kids team so everyone else can comment , I though Mathews had five on Chamberle in the third , but he didn't keep it so it was left up to the ref , either way .

You can't take out the champ if you can't take out the Runner Up , words of wisdom from PH ,SAM ,ATM and SF , as we are chowing on some victory grub ,CC state champs 2012 , state dual champs 2013 ,Great job Coaches and wrestlers ,

Some good matches at State Duals today

 

Cooper vs D Lampe

Cooper vs S Myers

French vs Coutney

Chamblee vs Pledgure (spelling?)

Chamblee vs Mathews

L Jones vs T Clay

 

 

Anyone else see any good matchups. Like Mpire said, hard to see all of the good match upswith 2 gyms, 8 mats and trying to watch your own kids/team

Congratulations Union Co and Campbell Co on State Duals Champions

What was the score of tevon and jones. Saw going into the third jones was up 9-6

Top 2 teams at state duals big school.... Nky dominance...

Region 6 is tough. 3 of the top teams in the state. Well done sk and cc.

Some good matches at State Duals today

Cooper vs D Lampe

Cooper vs S Myers

French vs Coutney

Chamblee vs Pledgure (spelling?)

Chamblee vs Mathews

L Jones vs T Clay

Anyone else see any good matchups. Like Mpire said, hard to see all of the good match upswith 2 gyms, 8 mats and trying to watch your own kids/team

Congratulations Union Co and Campbell Co on State Duals Champions

What was the Cooper - myers score? Cooper- lampe score

5-4 myers over cooper

6-5 or 7-6 cooper over Lampe with late points scored by cooper again

Cooper beat lampe last second and cooper lost to Myers by 1 I think that lampe is as good as anyone

I think , Cooper beat Lampe twice in about as many weeks , and I think Myers and Coopers match was closer score wise this time

But not actually closer as far as the match is actually concerned , two takedowns this match and two in the first match with the second one coming off of a desperation move from

cooper , Lampe is good with some height and sise advantage on most kids he wrestles same as some others I have seen , but he is not as good a wrestler as Cooper , and or definatly not Myers , and has not wrestled or beaten the caliber of kids that either has in any yr of their HS career ,

Surprised at some of the actions of some

Kids at Duals , if a High School kid thinks he can punk out wrestlers who are deserving of being at tournaments of that level ,then they are obviously outclassed not only physically but morally and asking to stay in the lower tier where they are at that is forcing their desperation ,

Not impressed by some of the more talked about wrestlers ,Being tough on the Matt and acting like a wannabe thug are two different things , I rather admire the kid who walks around laughing and talking wrestling to everyone then Beats everyone with skill amd determination over those who walk around mean mugging everyone and trying to get an advantage they will

Never have , the reverse psychology of it all is awesome , and I wouldnt be trying to throw no punches at ATM because next Time the pin the ref didn't give the dirty half harted punch you threw and the ignorant comments you make as your shaking his hand after he dismantles you might be the embarrassing match that makes you the laughing stock of wrestling next time , congrats though you survived a match , but be sure and watch the video you were stuck in a vision quest double chicken wing ... ouch Most refs wouldn't ignore crap like that , strange if some kids acted as others it would be talked about endlessly but some are held to different standards .

As for best matches Finals of large school had the match everyone wanted to see "again"

After the dual to see who made finals had the other match everyone wanted to see ,or at least most in Louisville wanted an opportunity at again .

Results speak louder than opinions

My opinions of course

As for talent WOW little Lawson is tough , he gets his own monicker , he's the LAW hahahahah and he handed down some justice on some

Of the more talked about lightweights .

Glad I got to meet Tevon Clay , classy well spoken young man deserving of his accolades , and I haven't seen him wrestle a single match , he just strikes me as a very good person best of luck to him ,

Some great coaches and personalities in Ky as well as some great people ,

Woodford is loaded with Charismatic knowledgable people , when your surrounded by Woodford kids though it's like your in i some

Kind of Horror movie all the blonde kind of freaks you out , at least I didn't have any moms

From

There cussing me out at this tourny

Two big ones left then half the Mpire moves on , soon to be replaced by one closest to the one leaving ,

Glad to see that SK and CC have not let all High school sports become overtaken by private school powerhouses that do not play by The same rules as everyone else , as us the case in other states who claim superiority over KY

And yes if you want my Opinion SAM is top dog, and if you want facts , SAM is Top dog , under more pressure and more to lose and little to gain ,

He gave you all what you wanted .

Little lawson is tough as nails! Him and binder had a great match lawson scored as time expired to win it. Cant wait to see how trevor does at state, I know he will shock alot of people. Vega looks tough as well, wanted to see vega and lawson wrestle. Cooper looked tough against lampe, but wow lampe is a Phenominal sophmore. 152 looks to be between lampe and cooper, being possibly the greatest match at state

There will be a lot of great matches at state , not sure a match everyone has seen twice will

Be the best , but it should be good ,182 will have good ones and some other classes will have wrestlers who have been dominating possibly meet up, ,

There will be fireworks in the lightweights it seems all mixed up with anyone's to take , 170 seems tough with Canter and Jones being favorites , Turner and some

Others being in there , and Meiman staying there with a shot to shock some people and live up to the expectations of his fans , wouldn't surprise me if he did , it's there for whoever wants it .

140 , Jayce being the Favorite Hamilton being the bridesmaid favorite again. Who knows what could happen .

195 , I'm kind of lost here getting focused on other classes but I saw some powerhouses lurking around At state duals , with skill as well as muscle to

Back it up , should be good .

220 , I'll take ATM especially if Bryant goes Heavy a lot of big 220 s but no threats or even comparisons to the top two , Bryant looked impressive at Duals to say the least ,

Hvy a lot of big boys just like at 220 but an obvious favorite is there in Bryant If he goes there .

Just a personal observation at duals , i saw that some coaches simply got up he ever they wanted walked to the corner of the mat and or approached refs as they pleased, I was stunned never seen this before in other states ,

And as will become apparent and already should be , Teams that have lost their umph as a team

Threat usually turn to their stud or studs and promote them in order to promote themselves through them to keep in the spotlight , just my own personal observation over the years ,

No real disrespect but one of the worse teams in Cincy and Ohio has gotten way more talk and props than other much more deserving teams because it had one stud and a good promotions dept sorry LaSalle you didn't pass the 5 yr test and never lived up to the hype ,

When you talk the talk and walk the walk its a great thing , the talk is usually just motivation and psyche out attempts on the comp , but when it's legit it's beautiful. Everyone wants to take out the champ or the ones being talked about its a lot more pressure than people think always easier being the hunter than the hunted but when your on top and you stay on top even under the gun it' says volumes about just how good you are ,

Childish and a bit classless people insinuating Union could beat CC unless it is Union people themselves believing in their team all

Others are suspect as simple haters ,

Everyone will see at state who has the best team if they haven't seen enough , both are great and CC being bigger has advantage , thus the Big school small school seperation for duals , I heard they had big school

Small

School champs at state so what is the real

Difference anyway , I think they should dual the champs , I don't think it's right but KY mentality demands showdowns and there

Is obvious a scheming and attempts at one upsmanship at every turn , funny thing is CC and Union are both classy programs that seem to avoid all the bs games , myself not included as I am a big Bser with to much time on my hands and an obsession with my kids their sport and winning everything .

I like the heck out of all the union people I have met . Pretty much goes for everyone , minus that Woodford mom

Who cussed me out and I understand that , a coupe of kids taking cheap shots at ATM now and again and a punk who ran into the best wrestler in the state yesterday on purpose but kept a walkin .

Yep it's go time I guess if you can't beat em well all you can do is lose to em.

Did jones drop or clay bump ?

Little lawson is tough as nails! Him and binder had a great match lawson scored as time expired to win it. Cant wait to see how trevor does at state, I know he will shock alot of people. Vega looks tough as well, wanted to see vega and lawson wrestle. Cooper looked tough against lampe, but wow lampe is a Phenominal sophmore. 152 looks to be between lampe and cooper, being possibly the greatest match at state

 

Don't assume they will meet.  If KY seeded the state tourney they might be 2 & 3 seeds and meet in the semis.  However, it is not unthinkable in KY that Stephen, Lampe and Cooper could all be on the same side of the bracket.  We've seen this before...many times...but stop talking about how other states successfully seed their state tournaments to assure better matches late in the tournament, in particular the semis and the finals.  But to mention that on this forum always gets a strong response.

I think slow ride made his comment about 152 thinking someone would be at 160 rather than 152 . But who knows .

Don't assume they will meet.  If KY seeded the state tourney they might be 2 & 3 seeds and meet in the semis.  However, it is not unthinkable in KY that Stephen, Lampe and Cooper could all be on the same side of the bracket.  We've seen this before...many times...but stop talking about how other states successfully seed their state tournaments to assure better matches late in the tournament, in particular the semis and the finals.  But to mention that on this forum always gets a strong response.

it is unthinkable that cooper and stephen could be on the same side.  unless one of them had a big upset, no 1 & 2 from the same region can be on the same side of the bracket at state.

I heard someone yell at a ref for calling a wrestler for stalling as soon as the ref called it the kid scored and the person said yeah ref stalling stalling how is that , he then said In a mimicking voice "Stalling .... for TWO "hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahah was A bit of stalling maybe not enough to call but it was funny as heck