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State Team predictions

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I think there is about 4 teams that have a chance...... Trinity, St.X, Union, CC.......I'm sticking with my pre season gut of Union to win it...... Think to tough at smaller weight classes

I'm sticking to my gut too and saying CC  ....I know I'm really going out on a limb there lol

1st CC 2nd Union 3rd SK. Hoping WV is top 8

MPire and IWin are on record as saying it's in the bag already. Personally, I think their bag is gonna get a hole punched through it.

Care to try

St. X- 2 Top 8

5 Top 3

1 Champ

Total- 8 Placers

Union Co.- 5 Top 8

2 Top 3

3 Champs

Total- 10 Placers

CC- 8 Top 8

1 Top 3

3 Champs

Total- 12 Placers

12 Placers?? Come On, that's not gonna happen. The only way you're gonna have 3 champions is if Sean Fausz runs from where he's been wrestling at 126 back up to 132.

It's not running when you can go win a championship. I gave all 3 teams the benefit of the doubt when it came to top 8s. This is best case scenario for all involved. I don't know if Fauz is going 132, but if I'm his coach, I tell him that is where he will wrestle. Better for him, better for the team.

I really think that Union is a lot closer to Campbell than a lot of people think. I think either team could beat the other one on a given day. The wildcard in this is gonna be the KHSAA random draw. This could very easily set one of the teams up better than the other.

    First of all I think CC wins State as a team.  Second a big Congrats to CC for making some noise in Oh. Third I am no fan of CC. But you have to give credit where credit is due. Now that is my prediction , but I would love to see two things happen. One, Union Co stomp right on their Camel Toes and send them packing! And two, CC parents pitch in and buy their mascot a new Wig !

   Good Luck to All  ! 

St. X- 2 Top 8

5 Top 3

1 Champ

Total- 8 Placers

Union Co.- 5 Top 8

2 Top 3

3 Champs

Total- 10 Placers

CC- 8 Top 8

1 Top 3

3 Champs

Total- 12 Placers

I don't have a dog in this fight but even I think 12 kids placing is not going to happen there's just too many factors that have to fall just right I mean I have a ton of respect for Dustin Turner but as strong as the 170 class is it depends on the draw and with the wrong draw he could be out early and that's just 1 example there's more in different weight classes and you've got to remember that the khsaa's bracket is blind luck even with the 1-4's and 2-3's On the flipside with the right draw for Turner I could see him finishing as high as 4th . I do think that they have a chance to have even 4 state champions let alone 3 and I do think they win the team championship. but 12 overall placers .. just too hard and imho won't happen.

 

Fauz

Myers S

E Matthews (him and Chamberle have had to many super close matches and I think Matthews will get his at state)

ATM

Sean's not running from anyone, never has and never will.  He's wrestled both classes depending on the tournament and where his coaches wanted him.  Last week he won Hammer and Anvil at 132.  His plan and his coaches for post season has been 132 all along.  You obviously haven't wrestled in Ohio where they cut a ton, in Ohio at best he is a mid sized 132.  More about self preservation than anything else because post season is really about survival of the fittest/healthiest.  You might want to do some research on Jake Adcock before just assuming it would be a loss.

 

Also, why the continued cheap shots at a 16 year old kid who works his tail off year round?  Has he beaten you, your friend, relative, or your son in the past?  This isn't the first time that you've singled out Sean in this manner!  I'm a nice guy for the most part, but even I have a breaking point so I suggest that you leave it alone!

Rumbler , if all the kids on your team weren't cutting and going where they were best at they would have lost more matches long ago , kids go where they want where it's easiest and where their team wants em at times , anyone who wants can follow , simple as that it the sport .

Random draw won't hurt the best in each weight class......You do want to be on the other side of that bracket.  The random draw will affect probably all 4 of the top teams in getting guys higher on the podium.....It might just make a difference this year on who takes home the crown.....My bet is on CC for now. then Union.  SImon Kenton and St.X will be right there.....Should be some great matchups this year and I hope a few suprises. Some kids really know how to turn it up come State ! 

Not taking a shot at all. Don't know the kid. I'm sure he's a fine young man. This board is for giving opinions. I've never slandered anyone on here. The Camel talk can become overwhelming at times though. I simply was disagreeing with IWIN by saying that I don't feel Campbell County will win 3 state championships if everyone wrestles at the same weight i saw them wrestling at state duals. I don't think it's a negative blast on Fausz by conceding that no one at 132 can beat him. Fausz is a stud, no doubt about it. Furthermore, how come you don't ever reprimand MPire when he calls out young 15 and 16 year old kids for taking what he perceives as cheap shots on the mat? Is it because you guys cheer for the same team?

Why would someone reprimand me anymore than anyone else , I didn't call anyone out specifically , but anything I might have implied was fact and witnessed by THE WHOLE CROWD , and or the ref , and hopefully everyone does cheer for the good guys , not CC specifically but the good kids who rely on wrestling not REDNECK to win .as in ignorant comments as they are shaking hands that the refs hear ,trying to throw cheap shots as someone's letting you up as the refs saw or running into people when they are not looking as

Many saw ,

Bottom line the state duals champs who doubled their opponents score in the finals dual would obviously be the favorites along with the small school dual champions !!!!!

Looking at it without purple and gold glasses on and as unbiased as I can be about it all , CC has 4 out of its six placers back , down two champs but a placer looks to be moving to a champ spot , there is serious comp for all three , there is also 2 or three who could easily make finals and that bad draw pendulum swings both ways , as a team it's stronger , losing Yenter and Frank is a hard blow but Shaun has improved so has a lot of others , Stephen will score mass points so will ATM so will Mathews they will stick most of their opponents , Yenter did not Neither did Frank , I think CC scores more points on the other end SAM might not score as many he has a possible two tough matches depending on draw and ATM may have one or two ,

I don't know where Trinity even entered the conversation they are not top Four they have a super stud , that's it , no way they win state , if I was a betting person I would probably take X slightly over SK not my preference but just a hunch and maybe the Benifit of the doubt ,

It CC has a bad day and crap draws it could be as low as 3 everything goes as should its a war between CC and union that I see CC winning . Yes 3 - 5 champs is possible as Iwin said he gave everyone their best outlook ,

Either way , it's in the bag :)

And I forgot Ryle , they have some studs and they have.been hiding I hear they went up

north to Wadsworth to learn from the great wrestling masters , their kids are Black Belts now in the art of KY whoop ass , bwahahahahahah

St. X- 2 Top 8

5 Top 3

1 Champ

Total- 8 Placers

All good predictions and I know it's all

Best case ,I don't see 5 top3s , and at best they could have 3 champs ,will they NO Justin Lampe should win , Dominic will have Cooper and French will have Courtney who he has beaten and S who has beaten French and techd a kid who beat Courtney a match earlier ,and who has only been scored on by 1 kid in the regular season in the last two yrs and that was on a questionable call .

Union Co.- 5 Top 8

2 Top 3

3 Champs

Total- 10 Placers

Ten placers is a lot,!!!!I haven't seen them

Dual CC or SK or X so it's hard to say , they were not world

Beaters at the rumble

But down their studs so it's a pointless comparrison but my analytical side says that team with 18 points for those three against CC current lineup would in fact lose , ATM SAM Fausz and Mathews would all

Probably pin as well as some of the others but knowing unions depth at lower weights who knows its still a toss up ,

Breaking it down for the masses , the transfers at Woodford are very CC friendly ,

Just my opinion that

MAny will agree with before it's all said and done

CC- 8 Top 8

1 Top 3

3 Champs

Total- 12 Placers

12 is a lot of placers at best yes , will it happen NO , BUT I see 3 or four possible top 3s , probably 2 realistically !

Nice picks a bit brighter than any team will come out looming though .

Time to get of the team predictions and go to the classes and top eight , more fun and more to talk about !!!! And less temperament , nothing's in the bag people don't be so sensitive , maybe SK brings their ref and a few of his buddies and blows everyone away , I think that guy was a Cooper anyway he has to be related somehow .

Random draw won't hurt the best in each weight class......You do want to be on the other side of that bracket.  The random draw will affect probably all 4 of the top teams in getting guys higher on the podium.....It might just make a difference this year on who takes home the crown.....My bet is on CC for now. then Union.  SImon Kenton and St.X will be right there.....Should be some great matchups this year and I hope a few suprises. Some kids really know how to turn it up come State ! 

 

Random draw will effect some. I look for this tournament to have a few major upsets unlike the past few years. There will be some very strong 4 seeds coming out of some weight classes in different regions.. I do the 170's so I'll use one of there regions as an example in there 170 4 out these 5 are going . I'm telling you all 5 of those guys are very capable of doing a whole lot of damage and even a slight chance of winning the 170 class. There's a couple of other regions that are extremely tough as well. Looking forward to a great tournament but what a week of regionals next week will be !  Look at those 5 and pick 4 if you've followed them all season it's not easy at all !

 
Boykin r-4
Fultz r-4
Torriente r-4
Wilbanks r-4
Bauer r-4

As much as it hurts CC will probably take the title this year. I have no issue with CC....only sick of the sheer volume of reading about them. Love watching Fauz and Stephan Myers wrestle. They are the best at their respective weights hands down (assuming 132 for Fauz). I honeslty don't think Union can run them down this year. I love those kids from Union and like the coaches a lot too, but I think they will come up a bit short of CC. SK is strong, but I think St. X will edge them, followed by Ryle and Trinity right there. Beauty of this tourney is there is no clear runaway champ....but unfortunately it's probably only a race between the big 2, and a race for third after that. Only two weeks and some change til we find out. Can't wait.

Sean's not running from anyone, never has and never will. He's wrestled both classes depending on the tournament and where his coaches wanted him. Last week he won Hammer and Anvil at 132. His plan and his coaches for post season has been 132 all along. You obviously haven't wrestled in Ohio where they cut a ton, in Ohio at best he is a mid sized 132. More about self preservation than anything else because post season is really about survival of the fittest/healthiest. You might want to do some research on Jake Adcock before just assuming it would be a loss.

Also, why the continued cheap shots at a 16 year old kid who works his tail off year round? Has he beaten you, your friend, relative, or your son in the past? This isn't the first time that you've singled out Sean in this manner! I'm a nice guy for the most part, but even I have a breaking point so I suggest that you leave it alone!

Totally agree with you. I'm not a CC fan but dang they are kids. Why take shots at them by saying if he runs to another weight. Well let's see if my son has a better chance to win state and at the same time helps my team. Why wouldn't he wrestle that weight? I'd love to see all of NKY do awesome

Random draw will effect some. I look for this tournament to have a few major upsets unlike the past few years. There will be some very strong 4 seeds coming out of some weight classes in different regions.. I do the 170's so I'll use one of there regions as an example in there 170 4 out these 5 are going . I'm telling you all 5 of those guys are very capable of doing a whole lot of damage and even a slight chance of winning the 170 class. There's a couple of other regions that are extremely tough as well. Looking forward to a great tournament but what a week of regionals next week will be !  Look at those 5 and pick 4 if you've followed them all season it's not easy at all !

 
Boykin r-4
Fultz r-4
Torriente r-4
Wilbanks r-4
Bauer r-4

 

I agree with everything that you wrote, but Boykin is Region 5.  It doesn't change the fact that a number 1 and 2 from another Region is going to have to wrestle someone in the top 15 170's first round.  This happened at 120 last year too, but it was worse.  Keegan North finished 4th in his region and was ranked between 5-7 in the state (I believe). I think he wrestled Keegan Duncan first round and North won.  I also believe they both placed at State.  For the record I think it goes: 1. Bauer 2. Wilbanks 3. Fultz 4. Torriente.  They will all be good matches and could end up in any order.

Let's take a look- (This is just my opinion so don't blast me for making this attempt)

106- Sheffer has an outside chance of placing and going 3-2 at state with possibly 2 wins coming in the championship rounds. Big thing for him will be his draw. Currently he is either a 1 or 2 seed coming out of his region. This compared to Krebs who will more than likely go as a 3 seed having a much tougher first round match up. Krebs is more likely to go 1-2 than 2-2. If he does go 2-2 it will be in the conso where he won’t score as many team points. Advantage UC

113- Dezember has a legitimate shot of finishing top 4 at this weight class. If he can get bonus points in the early rounds he could end up scoring UC a lot of extra points that they will need. Maggard on the other hand will likely be a 1 or 2 coming out of the region. Watching Maggard he isn't really a bonus point’s kind of kid. I see Maggard winning his first and maybe his 2nd. After that he will slip into the conso's where he has an outside chance of placing. Big Advantage UC

120-Trea Blackwell will more than likely be returning to the state finals where he should win number 2. Trea is a pinner so I look for him to score bonus points up to the finals. This is unless Adam's falls on his side of the bracket. Sparh is a good looking freshman but coming out of Region as 3 seed will make his run very difficult. He could win his first but I don’t see him advancing past the 2nd round in the Championship rounds. Falling down to the conso he could give CC some advancement points but I don't see him on the podium this year. Big Advantage UC

126- Brock Ervin! Enough said let’s move on. LOL. In all seriousness Brock should get bonus points throughout including the state finals. His points will be huge if UC wants to win a state title. Ranger doesn’t have a single CC wrestler ranked and I don't see them sending a kid out of the region. Big Advantage UC

132-Sean Fausz should finally win him a state title! He has been on a mission this year and has always been one of my favorite wrestlers to watch. Unfortunately for CC, UC has Werth and he is a formidable contender for a state title. If he and Sean end up on opposite sides of the bracket that would be a huge blow to CC, as Werth would more than likely face Sean in the finals negating about 15 points for them. Best case scenario, Werth and Fausz are on the same side of the bracket to limit UC points. Slight Advantage CC

138- Just like 132 this weight class is all about the draw. If Hamilton can be opposite Carr in the brackets then that is a huge help to CC, if he isn't then it’s a huge blow to them. If 132 has them opposite and 138 has them meeting in the semi's then CC is in legitimate trouble repeating. I think Carr wins the head to head match up. However both boys will score bonus points throughout the tournament so I go with a slight edge to UC. Slight Advantage UC

145- Gabe Ervin here is senior from the "Clutch" Ervin family. If he brings his A game he is on the podium. I see him finishing anywhere between 4-8. His points will help UC as we approach the meat and potatoes of CC lineup. CC currently doesn't have anyone here that I am aware of. I am assuming Myers will be at 152 for the state tournament. Big Advantage UC

152- Stephan Myers looks to be in prime position to win this weight class from Cooper. Myers should bonus his way to the finals. Cooper will be opposite him in the bracket. I know Lampe is out there so if he tangles with Myers, CC might not get all the bonus points they will need. However, if anyone can pin when his team needs him big time, it’s Stephan. Gahfer here should provide UC with some points. Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the podium; however I feel like he is in the 6-8 range if he makes it there. Big Advantage CC

160- Assuming Bachman is here for CC this is big advantage for them. Bachman is a senior who has been around forever. He is a top 8 kid who could be on the podium pretty high depending on his draw. UC doesn’t have much fire power here if any at all. If Bachman can win some close matches and make it to the Semi's then that would be huge for him. He should come out of Region 6 as a 1 seed helping him immensely the first couple of rounds. Big Advantage CC

170- This could get tricky, here is why. Turner is an outstanding wrestler; however he is in a meat grinder of a region. With L. Jones, Meiman, B. Jones, and D. Hicks there are 4 kids who could do very well at the state tournament. Sadly though that is not going to happen as one of them will not make it. I see Turner at best being a 3 seed. Close losses and wins against Hicks and Meimen, and I'm sure he would match up well against Lane. If he has a rough day and finishes 4 then that is bad news bears for CC. They need all of Turners points and they need them in the championship round not the conso. Another weight class where UC doesn’t have really anybody. If Turner goes as 2 or 3 seed then HUGE advantage to CC, if he doesn't or he limps in not so much of the advantage CC needs. I will go with Advantage CC

182-This could be another big one for CC. Eli Mathews has been wrestling his tail off over the last couple of weeks. I look for Mathews to place high at the state tournament. Depending on his draw he could fall anywhere between Quarters and Semi's. Don't see him as a state finalist this year but it would surprise me if he made it there. His points will be crucial to the team. I look for Mathews to enter state as 2 seed. UC has Smith who is a very solid wrestler. Don't look for him to medal this year and all of his wins outside round 1 should come in the conso's. Big Advantage CC

195-Keeton and Carter are in the same boat here. Both kids are middle of the pack wrestlers. Advantage goes to Carter though who will come from a weak region. Region 6 will be tough to finish any better than 3rd in, whereas Carter should finish 1 or 2 giving him a slightly easier draw. Both have an outside chance of placing. This will be the first one I call a wash on.

220- Austin Myers, bonus points every round moving on! Huge Advantage CC

HWT- Since i'm tired of typing and have to finish a lesson, this weight class will more than likely be a wash as well. Both kids are competitive but neither will podium in my opinion.

 

So the eye test favored CC big time, but now I'm 50/50. I think it will all come down to the when CC and UC wrestlers will meet up. If Carr and Hamilton meet up in the quarters that is a huge blow to CC, likewise if Werth and Sean meet up in the quarters that’s a huge blow to UC. I can't wait for the state tournament this year!

It looks like Gabe Ervin will be at 132 and Gahafer will be at 145. Both are pretty solid weight classes in region 1 so they could be seeded anywhere from 1-3

Plus even though Union's upper weight classes are not as strong as CC, they will all do pretty decent at Region and probably finish 1-3 respectively. So they might get some good draws at state and earn some points.

Either way its going to be fun to watch and see how all this plays out.

Where will Werth be?

I agree with everything that you wrote, but Boykin is Region 5.  It doesn't change the fact that a number 1 and 2 from another Region is going to have to wrestle someone in the top 15 170's first round.  This happened at 120 last year too, but it was worse.  Keegan North finished 4th in his region and was ranked between 5-7 in the state (I believe). I think he wrestled Keegan Duncan first round and North won.  I also believe they both placed at State.  For the record I think it goes: 1. Bauer 2. Wilbanks 3. Fultz 4. Torriente.  They will all be good matches and could end up in any order.

my bad on Boykin I knew that he was in region 5 at the time I typed that I was trying to figure out seeding for this weekends N Oldham mustang classic with Parriman, Wilbanks, Boykin,A Macintosh, Fultz, B Jones, Eric Pina, Co Portman, and Barrett thats almost as tough as the Dragon !  

 

Region 6 is just as tough as 4 and they do have 5

 

L Jones

D Turner

B Jones

J Meiman

D Hicks

 

do those 5 lol not easy either but thanks for reading and replying !

Let's take a look- (This is just my opinion so don't blast me for making this attempt)

106- Sheffer has an outside chance of placing and going 3-2 at state with possibly 2 wins coming in the championship rounds. Big thing for him will be his draw. Currently he is either a 1 or 2 seed coming out of his region. This compared to Krebs who will more than likely go as a 3 seed having a much tougher first round match up. Krebs is more likely to go 1-2 than 2-2. If he does go 2-2 it will be in the conso where he won’t score as many team points. Advantage UC

113- Dezember has a legitimate shot of finishing top 4 at this weight class. If he can get bonus points in the early rounds he could end up scoring UC a lot of extra points that they will need. Maggard on the other hand will likely be a 1 or 2 coming out of the region. Watching Maggard he isn't really a bonus point’s kind of kid. I see Maggard winning his first and maybe his 2nd. After that he will slip into the conso's where he has an outside chance of placing. Big Advantage UC

120-Trea Blackwell will more than likely be returning to the state finals where he should win number 2. Trea is a pinner so I look for him to score bonus points up to the finals. This is unless Adam's falls on his side of the bracket. Sparh is a good looking freshman but coming out of Region as 3 seed will make his run very difficult. He could win his first but I don’t see him advancing past the 2nd round in the Championship rounds. Falling down to the conso he could give CC some advancement points but I don't see him on the podium this year. Big Advantage UC

126- Brock Ervin! Enough said let’s move on. LOL. In all seriousness Brock should get bonus points throughout including the state finals. His points will be huge if UC wants to win a state title. Ranger doesn’t have a single CC wrestler ranked and I don't see them sending a kid out of the region. Big Advantage UC

132-Sean Fausz should finally win him a state title! He has been on a mission this year and has always been one of my favorite wrestlers to watch. Unfortunately for CC, UC has Werth and he is a formidable contender for a state title. If he and Sean end up on opposite sides of the bracket that would be a huge blow to CC, as Werth would more than likely face Sean in the finals negating about 15 points for them. Best case scenario, Werth and Fausz are on the same side of the bracket to limit UC points. Slight Advantage CC

138- Just like 132 this weight class is all about the draw. If Hamilton can be opposite Carr in the brackets then that is a huge help to CC, if he isn't then it’s a huge blow to them. If 132 has them opposite and 138 has them meeting in the semi's then CC is in legitimate trouble repeating. I think Carr wins the head to head match up. However both boys will score bonus points throughout the tournament so I go with a slight edge to UC. Slight Advantage UC

145- Gabe Ervin here is senior from the "Clutch" Ervin family. If he brings his A game he is on the podium. I see him finishing anywhere between 4-8. His points will help UC as we approach the meat and potatoes of CC lineup. CC currently doesn't have anyone here that I am aware of. I am assuming Myers will be at 152 for the state tournament. Big Advantage UC

152- Stephan Myers looks to be in prime position to win this weight class from Cooper. Myers should bonus his way to the finals. Cooper will be opposite him in the bracket. I know Lampe is out there so if he tangles with Myers, CC might not get all the bonus points they will need. However, if anyone can pin when his team needs him big time, it’s Stephan. Gahfer here should provide UC with some points. Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the podium; however I feel like he is in the 6-8 range if he makes it there. Big Advantage CC

160- Assuming Bachman is here for CC this is big advantage for them. Bachman is a senior who has been around forever. He is a top 8 kid who could be on the podium pretty high depending on his draw. UC doesn’t have much fire power here if any at all. If Bachman can win some close matches and make it to the Semi's then that would be huge for him. He should come out of Region 6 as a 1 seed helping him immensely the first couple of rounds. Big Advantage CC

170- This could get tricky, here is why. Turner is an outstanding wrestler; however he is in a meat grinder of a region. With L. Jones, Meiman, B. Jones, and D. Hicks there are 4 kids who could do very well at the state tournament. Sadly though that is not going to happen as one of them will not make it. I see Turner at best being a 3 seed. Close losses and wins against Hicks and Meimen, and I'm sure he would match up well against Lane. If he has a rough day and finishes 4 then that is bad news bears for CC. They need all of Turners points and they need them in the championship round not the conso. Another weight class where UC doesn’t have really anybody. If Turner goes as 2 or 3 seed then HUGE advantage to CC, if he doesn't or he limps in not so much of the advantage CC needs. I will go with Advantage CC

182-This could be another big one for CC. Eli Mathews has been wrestling his tail off over the last couple of weeks. I look for Mathews to place high at the state tournament. Depending on his draw he could fall anywhere between Quarters and Semi's. Don't see him as a state finalist this year but it would surprise me if he made it there. His points will be crucial to the team. I look for Mathews to enter state as 2 seed. UC has Smith who is a very solid wrestler. Don't look for him to medal this year and all of his wins outside round 1 should come in the conso's. Big Advantage CC

195-Keeton and Carter are in the same boat here. Both kids are middle of the pack wrestlers. Advantage goes to Carter though who will come from a weak region. Region 6 will be tough to finish any better than 3rd in, whereas Carter should finish 1 or 2 giving him a slightly easier draw. Both have an outside chance of placing. This will be the first one I call a wash on.

220- Austin Myers, bonus points every round moving on! Huge Advantage CC

HWT- Since i'm tired of typing and have to finish a lesson, this weight class will more than likely be a wash as well. Both kids are competitive but neither will podium in my opinion.

 

So the eye test favored CC big time, but now I'm 50/50. I think it will all come down to the when CC and UC wrestlers will meet up. If Carr and Hamilton meet up in the quarters that is a huge blow to CC, likewise if Werth and Sean meet up in the quarters that’s a huge blow to UC. I can't wait for the state tournament this year!

Good breakdown and great post but on the 182's Eli I think has a chance to win the whole thing jmho.. He's had very close matches with Heiro that could have gone either way

Sounds like none of the other teams need to show up.....just saying.

I was just kidding by the way.

Sounds like none of the other teams need to show up.....just saying.

I don't know if any other teams can win it but teams like SK and ST X and Ryle sure could do a lot of damage. Those are just 3 off the top of my head I know's there's a lot more teams that will effect these 2 teams overall out come.

Good breakdown fanof6wrestling. You gave Union the advantage in 6 classes, Campbell the advantage in 6 classes and had a wash in 2 classes. That's exactly the point i've been making. There's not much separation between the 2 teams top to bottom.

To be honest I didn't realize that lol it all depends on the draw and when kids meet up

Good breakdown fanof6wrestling. You gave Union the advantage in 6 classes, Campbell the advantage in 6 classes and had a wash in 2 classes. That's exactly the point i've been making. There's not much separation between the 2 teams top to bottom.

I just replied to the post saying it was a good breakdown. Cougar05 actually wrote it...

My bad. I see that now.

Let's take a look- (This is just my opinion so don't blast me for making this attempt)

106- Sheffer has an outside chance of placing and going 3-2 at state with possibly 2 wins coming in the championship rounds. Big thing for him will be his draw. Currently he is either a 1 or 2 seed coming out of his region. This compared to Krebs who will more than likely go as a 3 seed having a much tougher first round match up. Krebs is more likely to go 1-2 than 2-2. If he does go 2-2 it will be in the conso where he won’t score as many team points. Advantage UC

113- Dezember has a legitimate shot of finishing top 4 at this weight class. If he can get bonus points in the early rounds he could end up scoring UC a lot of extra points that they will need. Maggard on the other hand will likely be a 1 or 2 coming out of the region. Watching Maggard he isn't really a bonus point’s kind of kid. I see Maggard winning his first and maybe his 2nd. After that he will slip into the conso's where he has an outside chance of placing. Big Advantage UC

120-Trea Blackwell will more than likely be returning to the state finals where he should win number 2. Trea is a pinner so I look for him to score bonus points up to the finals. This is unless Adam's falls on his side of the bracket. Sparh is a good looking freshman but coming out of Region as 3 seed will make his run very difficult. He could win his first but I don’t see him advancing past the 2nd round in the Championship rounds. Falling down to the conso he could give CC some advancement points but I don't see him on the podium this year. Big Advantage UC

126- Brock Ervin! Enough said let’s move on. LOL. In all seriousness Brock should get bonus points throughout including the state finals. His points will be huge if UC wants to win a state title. Ranger doesn’t have a single CC wrestler ranked and I don't see them sending a kid out of the region. Big Advantage UC

132-Sean Fausz should finally win him a state title! He has been on a mission this year and has always been one of my favorite wrestlers to watch. Unfortunately for CC, UC has Werth and he is a formidable contender for a state title. If he and Sean end up on opposite sides of the bracket that would be a huge blow to CC, as Werth would more than likely face Sean in the finals negating about 15 points for them. Best case scenario, Werth and Fausz are on the same side of the bracket to limit UC points. Slight Advantage CC

138- Just like 132 this weight class is all about the draw. If Hamilton can be opposite Carr in the brackets then that is a huge help to CC, if he isn't then it’s a huge blow to them. If 132 has them opposite and 138 has them meeting in the semi's then CC is in legitimate trouble repeating. I think Carr wins the head to head match up. However both boys will score bonus points throughout the tournament so I go with a slight edge to UC. Slight Advantage UC

145- Gabe Ervin here is senior from the "Clutch" Ervin family. If he brings his A game he is on the podium. I see him finishing anywhere between 4-8. His points will help UC as we approach the meat and potatoes of CC lineup. CC currently doesn't have anyone here that I am aware of. I am assuming Myers will be at 152 for the state tournament. Big Advantage UC

152- Stephan Myers looks to be in prime position to win this weight class from Cooper. Myers should bonus his way to the finals. Cooper will be opposite him in the bracket. I know Lampe is out there so if he tangles with Myers, CC might not get all the bonus points they will need. However, if anyone can pin when his team needs him big time, it’s Stephan. Gahfer here should provide UC with some points. Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the podium; however I feel like he is in the 6-8 range if he makes it there. Big Advantage CC

160- Assuming Bachman is here for CC this is big advantage for them. Bachman is a senior who has been around forever. He is a top 8 kid who could be on the podium pretty high depending on his draw. UC doesn’t have much fire power here if any at all. If Bachman can win some close matches and make it to the Semi's then that would be huge for him. He should come out of Region 6 as a 1 seed helping him immensely the first couple of rounds. Big Advantage CC

170- This could get tricky, here is why. Turner is an outstanding wrestler; however he is in a meat grinder of a region. With L. Jones, Meiman, B. Jones, and D. Hicks there are 4 kids who could do very well at the state tournament. Sadly though that is not going to happen as one of them will not make it. I see Turner at best being a 3 seed. Close losses and wins against Hicks and Meimen, and I'm sure he would match up well against Lane. If he has a rough day and finishes 4 then that is bad news bears for CC. They need all of Turners points and they need them in the championship round not the conso. Another weight class where UC doesn’t have really anybody. If Turner goes as 2 or 3 seed then HUGE advantage to CC, if he doesn't or he limps in not so much of the advantage CC needs. I will go with Advantage CC

182-This could be another big one for CC. Eli Mathews has been wrestling his tail off over the last couple of weeks. I look for Mathews to place high at the state tournament. Depending on his draw he could fall anywhere between Quarters and Semi's. Don't see him as a state finalist this year but it would surprise me if he made it there. His points will be crucial to the team. I look for Mathews to enter state as 2 seed. UC has Smith who is a very solid wrestler. Don't look for him to medal this year and all of his wins outside round 1 should come in the conso's. Big Advantage CC

195-Keeton and Carter are in the same boat here. Both kids are middle of the pack wrestlers. Advantage goes to Carter though who will come from a weak region. Region 6 will be tough to finish any better than 3rd in, whereas Carter should finish 1 or 2 giving him a slightly easier draw. Both have an outside chance of placing. This will be the first one I call a wash on.

220- Austin Myers, bonus points every round moving on! Huge Advantage CC

HWT- Since i'm tired of typing and have to finish a lesson, this weight class will more than likely be a wash as well. Both kids are competitive but neither will podium in my opinion.

So the eye test favored CC big time, but now I'm 50/50. I think it will all come down to the when CC and UC wrestlers will meet up. If Carr and Hamilton meet up in the quarters that is a huge blow to CC, likewise if Werth and Sean meet up in the quarters that’s a huge blow to UC. I can't wait for the state tournament this year!

I think your maybe a little

Bit of a sort of , union Homer lol

To say CC has no one at 45 when Woods has continually improved all yr is a sr and a returning state qualifier is a but harsh , he beat some good kids this yr and WON the Hammer and Anvil , then you go to 160 and say Bachman who didn't make state last yr should do

Very well ??????? 160 has studs in French and Courtney ?? Mathews should make finals if he's on the other side of Chamberle and perhaps anyway , strange thing I have noticed about KY and the blind draw , it's not so blind

Turner if he is on the money can win if he's off he might not place , he's one of those guys but has continually became The who shows up on the money as the year progressed ,

Unions lightweights are tough but there are other tough lightweights out there . And your off on a few more things as well but it Was a good and interesting breakdown .

Mpire- Again it was just an attempt by me to line up the top two teams in the state and compare their chances. Believe me I am no Union Homer! Judging by my name and how highly I think of others around Conner i'm just a NKY homer! I am very passionate about NKY wrestling and read the paper every Sunday just to get a scope. My attempt here thou is with no bias, which I think I was successful at.

I did somehow forget about Woods and I have no clue how- He is very good and definently changes the breakdown. Because I havent him wrestle since he was in middle school or freshman year I don't know much about him. Maybe you could help with that and where he falls at 145. The eye test would probably put him around 6-10 in he won Hammer? Sound about right?

I know Bachman didn't make it to state last year because he lost his wrestle off but we both can agree he is a very good wrestler. I watched him wrestle at conference last year against Meiman and I believe the match went into overtime. He is very competitive and he won't win the dang thing but he could very well place and I expect him too or atleast win 3 matches for CC which will be very important in the team title race.

In regards to Mathews, he will be opposite Heiro and he could very well make it to the finals. However I havent seen him compete against anyone other than Heiro. Can he beat Carmen? McDaniels? Bauer? Possibly but if I was putting money down on it, one if not two of those guys will be on his side of the bracket so he will have to beat one of them to be in the finals. He can but I feel much safer saying he finishes somewhere between 3-5th at state.

And Union does have some great lightweights as do other schools. If I tried breaking down every weights class I would just release a version of the Brakeman reports lol I only compared UC and CC-

It's all good I wasn't really ragging on you. And I'm a bit lost sometimes , I went to Connor lol but there is probably about ten schools in KY that could be cougars , yes you sound about right Woods should indeed make top eight , depending on his match with Belk he goes out a 1 or 2 , and he pinned last go around , as for Eli I see your point but he has wrestled some

Good kids probably without ? A better schedule than any you mentioned and done well , including a win against a wrestler that would easily beat everyone at 182 in KY , Garret Connor , who signed with Ruetgers , he broke his rib in the match with Marhews , funny seeing Hiero ranked 1st and everyone putting Eli down around four or so when their matches are so close , Eli actually won in a lot of people's eyes at duals he had 5 that wasn't awarded to him , but it is what it is .

So looking at your breakdown then giving CC some

Points at 45 ,CC wins end of story , in the bag ,lol

And you have some

Weights wrong , of course :)

I

Hear Belk has improved and Woods looked very good at The Hammer, may be one of the better matches at reg 6 , But Chamberle / Mathews WILL be the best , Mayhews 3rd time could be the Charm at home at CC , the pressure is actually on Hiero his SR yr and on enemy territory , my dogs are barkin and ATM is pushing SAM out the Door to head to the Gym , good luck to everyone , best of luck to the lifelong srs ,Jones Canter Steph Kevin Hiero Rieric Keeton Woods and the rest .

Just finished reading the final Brakeman reports and showing some love for Kevin Cooper and both Myer brothers. Our boys up north are handing it to top kids in Ohio.

Stephan has wins over both Davis (4 @ 152 D1) and Globke (1 @160 D1)

Kevin holds a win over Davis as well. Also holds win over Kowal (9 @145 D1)

Austin pin over Boyd (2 @220 D3) and Ross kid (3 @220 D2)

 

I'm sure there is more but these kids were mentioned by name in the report!

 

Mathews also holds a win over Connor (3 @182 D1)

 

Some cool stuff! Mpire I know I missed some of the wins but this was just some snap shots of what I read.

Yes Heimkreiter the ross 220 was ranked lower but has moved up as I told those haters he would , he's tough , steph beat Globke twice Kowal and Schramm at gmva and Ford as well as Davis in OT all ranked kids I believe , I know Kevin beat Davis and Kowal at coaches both in OT , and Austin beat Jennings and Nye who is ranked , so yes the ky boys did well I am sure there is more who did some damage but I watched Kevin Stephen and Austin as well as the cc guys close ,

Nice of Brakeman to notice he always spoke highly of my boys good luck to him

On the other hand after beating at least one kid ranked in either state every week if not two over the last month or so , Bucksman dropped SAM off intermat , top 20 kind of sad really , Stephen will go out a 3 timer with 3 fargo AA and some

Others with more wins against top kids than over half those ranked , it's all good though , he proved what he had to this yr and every yr . Congrats to all the Ky kids who represented this yr .

my bad on Boykin I knew that he was in region 5 at the time I typed that I was trying to figure out seeding for this weekends N Oldham mustang classic with Parriman, Wilbanks, Boykin,A Macintosh, Fultz, B Jones, Eric Pina, Co Portman, and Barrett thats almost as tough as the Dragon !  

 

Region 6 is just as tough as 4 and they do have 5

 

L Jones

D Turner

B Jones

J Meiman

D Hicks

 

do those 5 lol not easy either but thanks for reading and replying !

 

I'll take a stab at Region 6. 1.Jones 2.Turner 3.Meiman 4.Jones   Should be a good one.

my bad on Boykin I knew that he was in region 5 at the time I typed that I was trying to figure out seeding for this weekends N Oldham mustang classic with Parriman, Wilbanks, Boykin,A Macintosh, Fultz, B Jones, Eric Pina, Co Portman, and Barrett thats almost as tough as the Dragon !  

 

 

I'll take a stab at Region 6. 1.Jones 2.Turner 3.Meiman 4.Jones   Should be a good one.

I would agree and Hicks who may not even make it (I repeat may not)  just beat Fultz from R-4 you seem knowledgeable on the 170's how would you seed these 11 guys ? ... I'm doing my best and I'll give my seeding the way I'd do it anyway in a few hours

 

DJ Parriman,Eric Pina,Sam Wilbanks, Marlon Tornelli, Trevor Fultz, Sean Barrett, Brennon Boykin, Braden Jones, Zack Mitchell and Collin Portman, Alex Macintosh those 11 are all at the Mustang Saturday

I was thinking about that seeding.  It's going to be interesting (if everyone wrestles).

 

1. Barret

2. Parriman

3. Fultz

4. Macintosh

5. Wilbanks

6. Boykin

7. Torriente

8. Pina

9. Jones

10. Mitchell

 

Wilbanks is the wildcard in the seeding.  There is absolutly no way they finish in this order, but from what I know from the head-to-heads involved with these wrestlers this will probably be the seeding. 

We have the same 1-2 although I don't think Barrett will win it.. jmho but with his wins over Parriman and Macintosh you almost have to seed him 1.  I'm like you though i truly believe that 8 of these guys could win it. It's just whoever gets hot or if a few guys don't wrestle just to rest or heal up for regionals.

 

 

Yes Wilbanks is definately the wildcard because he's been out most of the season. I gave Jones a higher seed because he finished runner up there last year and I'm sure they take that into consideration. He lost to Wilbanks in the final 6-4 . Boykin finished 3rd

 

For this years seeds I have them as follows

 

 
1. Barrett Southern - beat A Macintosh and Parriman
2. Parriman McCreary - beat Boykin
3. Boykin Eastern beat Braden Jones and finished 3rd last year Mustang
4. Sam Wilbanks Moore Won Mustang last year
5. Braden Jones Boone Co finished runner up last year defeated Zack Mitchell
6. Trevor Fultz Trinity beat A Macintosh twice this year
7. Marlon Torrienti Seneca beat Braden Jones beat Pina lost to Zack Michell and Pina
8. Alex Macintosh Oldham County lost to fultz twice defeated Boykin and Eric Pina
9. Eric Pina defeated Torriente lost to macintosh and Torriente
10. Zack Mitchell defeated Toriente
11. Collin Portman North Oldham lost to Torriente

The head to head wins play the largest role in seeding the tournament.  Fultz has a good record and two wins over Mac so that's why I have him so high.  Boykin has 4 losses on the year and three of those guys happen to be in this tournament, so that is why I have him so low.  Like I said, there is no way they finish in the order I have them seeded. Considering the weather and some teams will be resting studs all these guys might not wrestle anyway.  Teams will be jockying for seeds at region this weekend, so if your stud has nothing to gain (seeding wise) there really is no point in wrestling him this weekend.

very true about guys sitting guess I'll find out in the early morning . I'll say you know your wrestling I can tell that. I'm impressed. I'm a Boykin fan but only 2 of those guys are in the tourney that he lost to. Parriman when he was out of gas and Macintosh. His other 2 came against Chamblee from SK and Nathan Ogg from Henry Clay and yes I knew that without looking it up lol. He's one of my favs and sleepers.

He lost to Barrett in the semis at JCTC.  He was up in the third, made a mistake and got stuck.  Chamblee was his first match of the year and it was at 182.  I'm a fan too.

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