How will this work the coaches get calls based on there kids that will wrestle in it? Is it state champs only or do 2nd and third go and practice with them? Looks like a hella team this year

I think the highest returning placer goes. No seniors allowed I believe

Why would there not be wrestle offs? Just curious.

We just had them!

We just had them!

Perhaps, but don't weights change pretty quickly? What about cases where a stud wants to go to a different class? Not to mention freestyle/GR are completely different styles.

At 145 there are 2 juniors, 1 sophmore and the rest seniors.  J. Lampe of course would go, but do they take the next highest placer not a senior?

Team Kentucky's line-up from 106 - 152 is filthy.

It's a folkstyle dual tournament, and they get 5 lbs.  However, I would think the final say is up to the coaches.

 

http://www.themat.com/events/default.php?page=default&EventID=28385

Team Ky NHSCA or Fargo ?? Two completely different entities,

NWCA/USA Wrestling National Scholastic Duals

Knowlings Fieldhouse - Wabash College

Crawfordsville, IN April 11-13, 2013

Neither. It's a folkstyle duals tournament.

When will the roster be posted and are they taking two teams again this year

When will the roster be posted?

Team Ky invites.

 

106.

Vega   10  FC

Bender  9 StX

Scaggs  10  Dixie

 

113.

Boston  11 Wood

Hernadez  11  HC

 

120.
Blackwell   11  UC

Austin       10  CHCO

Whalen

 

126.

Ervin      11  UC

Shirky     10  OC

Heidorf    9   TR

 

132.

Fausz     11  CC

Wilkerson  11  OC

Gilkey       11  CWC

 

138.

Perez      11 LC

Kahl      11 TR

 

145.

Lampe    11  StX

Jackson   11 DX

Belk        10  RY

 

152.

Lampe      10 StX

Jones       11 WV

Gahafer     11 UC

 

160.

Courtney     11  Wood

Moore         11  Moore

 

170.

Meiman      9  RY

Turner       11  CC

 

182.

Matthews    10  CC

Morrow        11  Wayne

Saunders     11  BCTE

 

195.

Miller         10   Scott

Thompson     11  CN

 

220.

Meyers         10  CC

Mattingly      11  JH

Mueller         9   SK

 

HWT.

Young       9   LAF

Lawson      11   NELSON

Johnson      10  DX

When and where are the practice for team ky?

Yeah it's real dirty

Yeah it's real dirty

Is this academically based also?  Based on GPA's?

Hahahahah that's Hillarious

Hahahahah that's Hillarious

Hahahahah that's Hillarious

Hahahahah that's Hillarious

What's so funny?  Wildblueeyes has a legitimate question. 

Really , obviously the kids who are chosen are passing or they wouldn't be picked because they wouldn't have been eligible at state ,

A chess match , a spelling bee or a math quiz to determine the roster of a wrestling dual , yeah that a perfectly legit question , just kidding I guess it could be I thought someone was messing around ,

Team Kentucky is not an academic team.  Its a wrestling team.  GPA has no factor in Team Kentucky.  It has to do with placement at state and I believe chanllengers at each wt. class.

Thanks GOO, I knew it was a wrestling team! I just thought maybe they took top grades into consideration too

Just giving ya a little bit of a hard time WBE.  

 

It would be interesting though to have a Team Ky in each wt. class according to their GPA. 

 

Maybe not a team that actually comptetes but a team on paper.  Each wt. class would have 3 representatives according to GPA of those that competed in the Regional tourney.  1st team,   2nd Team, Honerable Mention.

 

Not a bad idea Wildblueeyes.

I like the spelling bee , I couldn't have won a match but Shear is an English teacher he would have been national champ , I did have way better grades than him in science though , English and math so boring science and history awesome and interesting , history is so much fun some people never learn from it

Goo - They use to do that, but that is another thing the KHSAA has done away with.  I think they should honor the student-athletes.  It takes a lot of hard work to wrestle and still keep a good GPA.  I know my son is up many nights late getting his work done.  Wrestling teaches a great work ethic. 

Maybe this is something that the KWCA can run with?

 

How about it KWCA people? What do you think? This seems like something that would or should be right down their alley.  Supporting the student athlete is probably more important than supporting the state placers.

 

OK now I have hijacked a thread.  Sorry.

Seriously ,Team Kentucky = the wrestling dual team is a wrestling team that tries to put together a good team to represent the state in a national wrestling Dual tournament everyone picked ibviously has passing grades , why the drama and no I'm

Not concerned about grades because my son has very very good ones But its a sport that athletes have to be passing in school to compete in what kind of people would put grade restrictions or take a spot from a kid with lower grades who's only joy in life may be wrestling , and perhaps someone may be training extra hard and slacked of on his work a bit but is still

Passing so someone now comes up with the idea of giving his spot to someone who may not be training as hard but has a better grade ,

seriously that's demented

I think what they are saying is to have an academic all state team. This team wouldn't actually compete as the state national team. It would just be an honor they received similar to an academic all American in college.

Exactly. You would have to combine my last two posts to get it.  Im jut brainstorming and thinking out loud.

Most states do that at the state tournament!

Goo maybe the KWCA could pick up on that, great idea!  Hopefully someone will see this and run with it.

 

Mprie, I know what Team Ky is, my son was on there last year as a middle schooler.  I didn't know if gpa's were involved on the hs level beacuse of the name of the tournament "scholastic" dual. 

I also think this is a great idea. Someone please submit it to me in writing (nothing major) so I can propose at our next meeting in April.

 

Send it to: [email protected]

So what if a kid is 2nd or 3rd on the list then what does he do. Like what is his purpose or is there 2 teams or what

Last year we took 2 full teams "Blue & Red" and some extras. Everyone got 4-5 matches if i'm not mistaken.

I didn't think or wouldn't no k they would let a jr high kid on a national team at least not the 1st team other sates do not so in keeping with national rules I wouldn't think it was allowed but its good for ky , and passing grades would be apart of being on the team because they are picked by the state placers not picking an argument scholastic awards are great and a goal worthy of great wrestlers and students , my sons always got their academic awards in jr high at oac state , now I could care less I just want tem to destroy everyone , I don't care if they throw some ds on it lol , ATM has pretty much straight AA just kidding and Sam has one problem class ap calculus I don't even know what it is hahahahah,

Mpire, KY has a Middle School Team KY just like HS does. A red team and a blue team. They wrestles at National Duals in Danville Illinois. Coach Efron (sp) from STX and Ranger along with a a great bunch of other coaches coach the teams. I wasn't saying my son was on the high school Team KY.

Oh , ok well this is the High School forum , my kids were on Team Ky last it as well and they didn't tell me about any jr high kids on the team so it threw me .

Doubt my boy is on the team this yr think he has his sights set on Fargo so he will be doing state and central regionals , and hopefully another regional ,

Scholastic is the official term for high school folk style btw

We calls it wrasslin , and when the boys wrassle at school we call it play wrasslin , and from now on When ATM wrestles just call it 187 ,

I call it Wrasslin myself, blame Mickey Walls for that. I was hoping to clear up the apparent confusion over "scholastic duals"

Where is this held ? Just curious because my grandson is on the team

Is the list the only wrestlers that get to paraticipate

I received the proposals and we will discuss this at our next meeting. Thank you for taking the time to do them.

A great looking dual team ,3rd place last yr was pretty impressive but on a good day this team could do even better .

My grandson Austin Jackson is on this team and is going just needs a ride could any one help out ?

My grandson Austin Jackson is on this team and is going just needs a ride could any one help out ?

Mr. Jackson, I am Jon Belk Sr.  My son, Jon Belk Jr. and Jackson wrestle each other.  We would be happy to give him a ride.

Has the wrestlers on the list been notified?

Could someone PLEASE give me some contact information?  My son is on the list, but we haven't received any information.  We have asked our coach, but he doesn't have any info either.  Time is getting short!

Pm Chris mccoy or Keith Smith

Do you have contact for Keith Smith?  I have no idea how to PM anyone...sorry.  Thanks!!

Anyone from the lexington area going? I have a son needing a ride

Anyone know how to contact Whalen or Hernandez if they are going?

Were leaving nky at11:00 if you can't find anyone closer

This Pat Miller, I am taking my son John Hernandez and Mike Whalen up. My number is 407-222-0007.

Good luck to all the kids headed out today and for those who wrestled last week as well keep it up two tough weeks of wrestling in a row !!!!

3rd place last yr for team ky a great showing , a very strong team again with both of its undefeated wrestlers from last yr and the ow Brock returning after winning national titles last week , tough Indiana and Illinois teams it should be interesting !!!!!!

Is there a list of wrestlers from team KY someone would be willing to post?

It's all on Trackwrestling.com 

Looks like everyone made weight.

^{No Boston ?    No Kentucky Red in some of the upper middle weights ..... surprising low turnout.........Best of luck Team Kentucky !} 

Round 1:

KYblue: 72, OHtitan: 3

INgold: 63, KYred: 3

Round 2:

KYblue: 52, In renegade: 18

KYred: 37, OH1030: 33

Great job today Kentucky Blue and Red....WOW.......KY Blue is 4-0 with a BIG win over PA in first round of GOLD Pool.......You can do it guys !

Kentucky Red is impressive as well with some quality wins.......

 

I got a feeling KY Blue brings back the Championship !

I love that this event is on track for anyone who can't attend. Looks like Kentucky is doing real well. I didn't see a lot of state champs from other states competiting which Is kind of a let down. I would one day like to see a Kentucky All-stars vs Ohio all-stars square off like they do in basketball.

The competition at Scholastic Duals is often a little odd because there are no seniors allowed, which knocks out a lot of state champs. There is not a lack of competition there.

Great job today Kentucky Blue and Red....WOW.......KY Blue is 4-0 with a BIG win over PA in first round of GOLD Pool.......You can do it guys !

Kentucky Red is impressive as well with some quality wins.......

I got a feeling KY Blue brings back the Championship !

I love that this event is on track for anyone who can't attend. Looks like Kentucky is doing real well. I didn't see a lot of state champs from other states competiting which Is kind of a let down. I would one day like to see a Kentucky All-stars vs Ohio all-stars square off like they do in basketball.

Oh geez, here we go. I love Kentucky wrestling. It's better than people think from the traditional wrestling states. Our best guys can hang with and beat the best from anywhere especially Ervin and Myers. Just look at the recent individual results.

However, if you took the best from Pa or Ohio it wouldn't be close in a dual. All you can do is wrestle the team across the mat so congrats to Ky Blue and Red. Great job.

Oh geez, here we go. I love Kentucky wrestling. It's better than people think from the traditional wrestling states. Our best guys can hang with and beat the best from anywhere especially Ervin and Myers. Just look at the recent individual results.

However, if you took the best from Pa or Ohio it wouldn't be close in a dual. All you can do is wrestle the team across the mat so congrats to Ky Blue and Red. Great job.

Oh geez here we go ???????    There are some of the best from PA and Ohio on their teams.....Don't really know how to take that comment......Blackwell, Ervin,Fausz, Courtney , Lampe brothers and Myers, Whalen etc.etc have gone with the best in the nation the past few weeks.....Not only do they compete, THEY BELONG !

 

MANY All Americans on Team Kentucky Red and Blue !

Oh geez here we go ??????? There are some of the best from PA and Ohio on their teams.....Don't really know how to take that comment......Blackwell, Ervin,Fausz, Courtney , Lampe brothers and Courtney, Whalen etc.etc have gone with the best in the nation the past few weeks.....Not only do they compete, THEY BELONG !

Which is why I said they "hang with and beat the best." Let's not get carried away though. Top to bottom in a 14 match dual against the best from Ohio we win 3-4 matches. Doesn't denigrate us it just recognizes the excellence in others.

Just added Myers our National Champ in my last post.......Ervin, Myers,Boston(not at duals) and Blackwell  ....all National Champs not including our Senior class of studs....Shirkey, Heirdorf and on and on.....Team Kentucky is loaded.......PA and Ohio BRING IT !......Just sayin' !!!!!

Ky Blue

Oh team ??

Ind Gold

I'll team

Pa in gold round

Ind beat Ill I believe and team Ky defeats Pa ,

Te KY has the bye in the morn th

Team Ky blue has probably the best team in the tourney Gold Pool round 3 in Illinios outsiders.  They have four state champs, 2 runner ups, and 3 third place finishers on their team and the rest are low placers. 

Ind gold and the ill team are very tough . Some of our kids are simply out of shape to much so !!!!!

Great tournament Ky ends up in fourth ,a good run ,Brock becomes a two time OW !!!saw some tough tough matches and some different match ups I'm sure with the + 5 with some going up others down , noticed Logan jones seemed to have aged yrs in just one last yr he looked like a kid now he looks like a College wrestler , Mueller is getting bigger for sure just some things I noticed Hvy got hurt did not wrestle today unions Hvy filled in gave it a go giants studs but inj def out ,good kid , all good kids , the last dual seemed to wear everyone out I guess a long week and two for some had its toll on a lot of kids an coaches ," I like to see everyone intense from beginning to end " not blasting anyone at all a wonderful job by everyone perhaps after the loss to Indy some hearts just were not in it , cannot be this way when the kids have done so well but it's understandable , great job to everyone on both teams a great time a great yr , you meet kids you automatically like , I like them all but Wyatt Courtney and Dominic Lampe are my kind of kids nothing to do with wrestling just kids I feel I could bs with and cheer for tell and coach from the stands like Trevor Thompson and kids on our own team , unimportant meaningless to most just if you notice personality those guys are standup , as are other just these Gus do it with a smile and a laugh , Shaun Fausz as well I notice when I take pics of all the kids Hes only one who looks straight in the camera with a smile , not a ham , just his way something to be said for that , ,

Looooobg two weeks for some if the coaches but but I'm sure they wouldn't trade it for anything , I wouldn't !!!!

Now lets send some boys to Fargo and come back with some AA plaques ,

Cool match Belk and an Ohio kid ultimate Ot Belk rides him out kid throws down from the bottom ,,,,,thick jacked up kid but duhhhhh Belks on top and he likes to throw down too hahahahaha

Funny ref breaks up the fight " Belk did not start it either " and says hey this is supposed to be a friendly exhibition match ... I lost it every and any win or match at nat duals is fierce , gotta love the enthusiasm ,

I've been following along on track wrestling , great job red and blue !

What happened to Caleb Austin, I noticed he wrestled the first day , then Mike Whalen filled in that spot on day 2, hopefully the boys stayed injury free.

National duals are great to watch, neat to see kids from different schools work together.

Lots of good showings from Kentucky kids. Been to the duals the last two years and although we finished 4th this year still a pretty good showing out of 20 teams. I was especially impressed again this year by Trey, Brock and Austin. Everybody had tough matches, tough kids and everybody contributed. Good matches for the red team as well. Hope we keep competing like the last couple years. I have heard comments from the stands the last two years about how good our teams have been and Kentucky wrestling being better than people realized. Good work boys!

Trae had an awesome match with a PA kid got in trouble right away and fought it off and came back picking him apart as he went , very impressed by him and he is a cool kid as well having fun as he does it .Brock Dominated and is on point and at a different level than most well coached well trained well disciplined he's a machine ,what every wrestler and coach should strive for !! !!!!

Every kid on the team gave it their all some did seem to fade or not be 100% some wrestled two weeks in a row with less than a week to prepare others were simply stepping up to this level getting their feet set against this caliber of comp . Good intensity , perhaps a practice with all the kids together as they did last yr at Trinity could have created a bit more and gave coaches a chance to see how things were looking and what to look for as well as let the kids bond and get that dual mentality ,last dual some intensity seemed to go away hated to see some kids getting down and sluggish because a total W was out of reach I think some wins could have been majors or better and a few more points picked up even a couple wins would have been possible I think the mind is a great weapon when it feels defeated the body will follow , just my opinion , a few more points maybe even as many a ten for us and a few less for them makes it a different outcome at least to me and some looking at scores ,

Great tournament Ky ends up in fourth ,a good run ,Brock becomes a two time OW !!!saw some tough tough matches and some different match ups I'm sure with the + 5 with some going up others down , noticed Logan jones seemed to have aged yrs in just one last yr he looked like a kid now he looks like a College wrestler , Mueller is getting bigger for sure just some things I noticed Hvy got hurt did not wrestle today unions Hvy filled in gave it a go giants studs but inj def out ,good kid , all good kids , the last dual seemed to wear everyone out I guess a long week and two for some had its toll on a lot of kids an coaches ," I like to see everyone intense from beginning to end " not blasting anyone at all a wonderful job by everyone perhaps after the loss to Indy some hearts just were not in it , cannot be this way when the kids have done so well but it's understandable , great job to everyone on both teams a great time a great yr , you meet kids you automatically like , I like them all but Wyatt Courtney and Dominic Lampe are my kind of kids nothing to do with wrestling just kids I feel I could bs with and cheer for tell and coach from the stands like Trevor Thompson and kids on our own team , unimportant meaningless to most just if you notice personality those guys are standup , as are other just these Gus do it with a smile and a laugh , Shaun Fausz as well I notice when I take pics of all the kids Hes only one who looks straight in the camera with a smile , not a ham , just his way something to be said for that , ,

Looooobg two weeks for some if the coaches but but I'm sure they wouldn't trade it for anything , I wouldn't !!!!

Now lets send some boys to Fargo and come back with some AA plaques ,

Cool match Belk and an Ohio kid ultimate Ot Belk rides him out kid throws down from the bottom ,,,,,thick jacked up kid but duhhhhh Belks on top and he likes to throw down too hahahahaha

Funny ref breaks up the fight " Belk did not start it either " and says hey this is supposed to be a friendly exhibition match ... I lost it every and any win or match at nat duals is fierce , gotta love the enthusiasm ,

Belk did get a little scrappy that last match. 

It was fun

He asked me if he should of started dropping elbows.  I say no rampage, you should not of.

Hammer fists from the top position quick and still out of range , that's just what I was thinking

maybe a anaconda choke.  He asked me did Meyers see that?  I told him you did and loved it. 

I did , ultimate OT with all that goes with it a great match and everyone seemed fired up I don't think the Ohio guys like losing to KY boys but it happens .

Saw some great wrestling the last two weeks I think everyone learned that off season wrestling isn't off season and only the best off the best show up its a much higher caliber of wrestling all around , the rules seemed different at both tournys I saw in Virginia Beach kids basically wrestled way out of bounds college stuff I guess , I think the two weeks took its toll on some and may have actually kept others sharp ,Glad I could

Make both tournys a great finish for Stephens HS career seeing him unleash his arsenal picks trips throws slide byes I saw him hit it all and he worked all positions this tourny taking a loss from what obviously was a mistake And a bad match as far as choices and wrestling goes then come back firing getting hurt and wrestling the smartest I have ever seen him wrestle to get another win and surpass what he did at nat last yr in a tougher field of SRs , got to see Austin battle two weeks in a row showing some endurance and desire and got to see him shut up all the haters taking out three state runner ups and more placers as well as some highly ranked kids , saw him tested hard bloodied and tired and saw him come through simply wanting it more than the next guy . Also saw some kids get some air time and saw him pin the majority of kids he wrestled , got to see Brock show how its done see Trae get his butt kicked one period and come back for a win saw some of our own kids battle hard being beat up over a couple weeks , saw Courtney make some

Mistakes but get some key pins when the team was getting beat up saw some kids out of their league but still battling hard saw a few kids missing ????? Meiman and Boston were sorely missed but opened up spots for others , surprised more srs didn't hit the tournys but I guess it was a long yr or career for some ,

Belks match I thought the locking hands was cheap as it looked like a shot and he didn't have time to release a quick call but he won ,

I thought Trae was stuck for sure but he came back and got the pin , I saw Fausz lose one I know he could have won easily just a scrambling awkward match and he looked a bit undersisesd 5 + is a lot , saw some guys gas who wouldn't have duiring the yr showing me they didn't prepare properly , saw my son go undefeated two yrs in a row in season and out going undefeated in two nat tournys in a row two yrs in a row , and saw another who made it possible

For him to do become an AA every yr he wrestled in HS , a good yr and career for one son. The biggest tournament in the world is still ahead this yr and looking forward to next yr more and more .

Some great people and fans In wrestling , also some dumb ones , I enjoy the pic of my son on the mat in defeat as his opponent arrogantly gestures ,And the comments and remarks made at and after state towards two kids who just the yr before were complimented so much on their sportsmanship , beating the best of the best giving everyone what they wanted only to get dumped on by classless people who do not understand the sport but learned how a champion reacts to a defeat last week even if it is ignored by most , 220 becomes the most desolate class in ky history haters will remark how weak it is to avoid giving credit to someone who dominates it , idiots will say its champion ran by staying in his own class while khsaa athletes of the yr run from him and people who post degrading pics of kids making gestures after matches while showing others in defeat will have nothing to show or post about except beatings and how classless the Man dishing out their beatings is because ATM is the Man and nothing is forgotten or forgiven ,

Thanks for the inspiration , none of your wrestlers can compare none ever will an Austin is going to embarrass your team your wrestlers and your coaches for allowing it , and no one can or will do a thing about it

And ranger I may be setting in the stands or somewhere Mat side and not in the corner like a coach as you said But don't fool yourself you could never and will never be able to coach or train a wrestler like Austin you could

Move to Sr Paris train your whole team there three times a day home school

Them all and still couldn't create an Austin ,

You dumped on your own champs for a pat on the back from a team coach and state that laughs and mocks you . Your records are Austin's Stephen is your schools first ever sr AA and you can take all the kids you want to graham or anywhere else and kiss up to them ,

Your comment about being able to coach my kid while I set in the stands was arrogance and stupidity at its best in thinking you could actually coach an Austin or coach him

Better than me you have shown your complete lack of knowledge about him myself and the sport , stick to the little guys

Two kids from Campbell were wrestling with a torn Meniscus - Matthews 182 lb. and Turner 170 lb. - you guys are both fighters - way to hang in there through all your matches - GREAT job guys!!!!!!!

Is there a list of the wrestlers representing team ky at fargo?

Is there a list of the wrestlers representing team ky at fargo?

Nonsensical rants for weeks , ok , thought I just posted about nationals nat duals and Fargo , and the kids I saw at the tournaments particularly my own and their teammates ,

As for nonsensical , everyone who read your post about not letting refs determine matches and so as so being your friend couldn't understand your reasoning for even posting not even your own schools coaches wrestlers and parents , when you could have simply not commented at all , evidently refs can control outcomes of matches at times and your schools wrestlers have had many determine theirs this season across the river where your good friend is king lol .

All I need to know about someone is they obviously chose to side against my kid when he was obviously wronged , all because he is bandwagon jumping sycophant out for a pat on the back from the big dogs up north ,

As for the taunt about you being able to coach my kid while I have to sit in the stands I could write volumes but I will only say I have coached him more and know him better than anyone probably ever will and am far more capable of doing so than yourself . But it's easy to coach when all you have to do is set there and watch a force of nature do its thing and I haven't bragged at all lately haven't even started , some people seem to have a strange sense of what accomplishment is in the sport or how to deal with wins and losses ,

I posted more about Team Ky and the kids at Nat than anyone else because I have discovered most people are timid when it comes to posting ,I am not, and I tried to post about all the kids I saw at these tournaments and perhaps give some people the feel of how these tournys are through my own eyes or perspective I have talked to many who would not do things as I do but do appreciate the acknowledgment of their kids accomplishments and enjoy some nonsensical ramblings particularly when nothing is going on or being said on the forums ,

You as a mod let people post pics of my kid while someone who barely beat him posed arrogantly while rather than simply shake hands as my kids had done till that point , then I read where everyone blasted my other son for doing the same , just making sure everything is understood , its not over by a long shot not with you or the other haters outside or inside CC ,

As for bragging ATM becomes CC first ever three timer next yr running away and being an undefeated Soph with two nat titles and two undefeated runs at nat duals , I don't have to Brag or tell you where he needs to be ranked as I dd before his fresh yr although I was only kidding then I knew where he would end up , didn't realize he would do as well as he did and had no clue someone so close to his or their own school would take the other side of an obvious wrong done against them but its all good and will be even better in July I suspect ATM to capture an AA and if he doesn't oh well he ha two more shots and will be a double AA then I will write a book on a few sites .

Team ky looked great to me until the last dual I call it as I see it many kids collapsed and lost their momentum , Brock, Justin Lampe , Austin , seemed to be ready for more and not want it to end , Shawn fought hard but i think he got flustered and taken out of his game due more to wrestling kids not only good but obviously bigger , Trae battled hard not sure he was totally fired up at tournys end or not Miller wrestled well and is better than most know Im nit sure how many top level tournys he has done but with some strength he could be very very good , The other lightweight were beast at times vegas is very impressive and the other lightweight kid seemed a bit out of his league but fought very hard and I enjoyed talking to him he quickly asked what he did wrong and that shows his intelligence and will to improve , Turner looked good and improving knowing he was hurt says a lot still find it hard to figure out what he is thinking when he wrestles perhaps that is his style "no set style " , Mathews looked great for most of the beginnings of his matches I think his conditioning was off as he fell off as the matches went on I know he had a tough go last week but when I saw him at NHSCA he seemed to be himself but I did not see all or even a whole match he wrestle last week You cannot expect to hang with guys at that level when your nor at your best shape , the Hvy was very impressive with huge potential once again a big ky boy shows there are studs at all classes in KY. I hear some jr high kids handled their business out west , congrats to them .

The second half of your post above is fabulous. We need more of that, especially in the off season. More recognition of the efforts of kids competing nationally and their success is great.

Rants about me siding against Stephen does nothing productive for the sport, our program, or Stephen. Trust me I received no pat on the back for my opinion on the questionable call. Jordan could care less what my opinion is on that match. It is what it is. We all have our opinion what the right call was, but either way it doesn't change the outcome so it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

Wow..enough of the personal attacks. Nothing wrong with french celebrating after putting the nail in the coffin. Well deserved. Congrats team ky!

The only posts I have made until today lately were like the second half of my post, and you being at CC siding against Stephen when the rest of the state and most of the buckeye state did not says everything anyone needs to know about you .

The nail in the coffin ??? If you mean CCs it was shut before Stephens match if your dumb enough which you are , to mean Stephen ,then that coffin was never shut after two yrs of beating the best in ky losing by a point to someone he handled easily earlier in the yr I think he just awoke from the dead and snatched an AA while someone stayed home !!!!!!

As for celebrating you your pic and your team are tacky an ATM will use your wrestlers for nails if they don't hide like every one else from Louisville did from him this yr , remember someone for whatever you wish but remember who beat who how bad and who did what , an remember Austin will beat the hell out of anyone wearing an x by a lot more than one or six as Stephen did in a real tournament ,lol

And remember nothing wrong with celebrating when Austin looks at your coaches and laughs and flashes his own sign to the crowd as the trainers are helping kids from x of the mat next yr

Seriously showboating after a one point win lover someone who has done ten times what you have ever done in the sport and obviously continues to is kind if ignorant particularly when he leaves a brother behind like Austin , I have some pics for you and I will have more shortly !!!!

OK call me stupid.  Everyone else does.  But celebrating when you win your first state championship is expected.  It's what I enjoy most in the state finals.  To see a kid that excited over a simple sporting event that ultimately means little to the rest of his life is very enjoyable.   I know people say "act like you've been there", he couldn't he was never there before.  I know if I would have won a state title I would have looked like a fool out there celebrating.  (oh wait a minute that's actually no different than I normally act) Oh well you know what I mean.  And doing it against someone you were not suppose to beat?? oh man.  Just think if you had the opportunity to wrestle Dan Gable in his prime and you knew you were the underdog and somehow you beat him in the NCAA finals.  WOW you would be more excited about that than if you pinned your way through another wt. class. 

 

Unfortunately in our great sport to succeed it must be at the cost of someone else (the one who lost).  With that said I also enjoy watching how the second placer acts after his loss.  I greatly admire those that can walk off the mat with class after a loss. (Which I saw happen in that match). 

 

As for the picture.  Take it for what it is.  Its a picture of this kids most exciting moment so far in his young life.  He will have many more moments that will top this one, but at this point its his greatest moment.  And his parents were lucky enogh to get this time frozen in time, and want to show the world the moment and how proud they are of their little child.

 

As usual these are the rantings of GOO nothing more and nothing less, and in the grand sceme of things mean very little to anyone.  GOO OUT>

Well goo they should have used the picture of their child celebrating not mine on the mat in despair , you seem to miss the point WE were never like that WE would

Never do that my boys would have never done that , in all honesty Stephen would have helped his opponent up of the mat as he did Cooper when he beat him , that's class something you and some others seem to have overlooked about Stephen Austin and the sport and something X ,whoever wildcat is , if its Frenchs parents or whoever it is ,know little about , it will never happen again after the garbage at state and on this site use a pic of your own kid not mine , of course the best pictures are taken at the best tournaments , I see Stephen standing on the podium at nationals a SR All American thats a much bigger statement and much more

Meaningful pic than any i have seen on this site ,regardless of the busted hand he got at state before the match with French and the shoulder he injured in his match to place and still going on , while some kids stayed home afraid to test the bigger waters . Act like you have been there I think thats what every coach tells their kids and what i always told my own sons .but obviously few have been there as I saw a lot of showboating , and I haven't seen some go anywhere else ,

Well Austin is going where he or no one else in Ky has gone before a place Stephen has been already , on two podiums in North Dakota , then he will set his sights on another title for Ranger and Goo and CC ti enjoy . and he will act as his opponents have ,the picture is funny now but it should be changed maybe to a rabbit Hole ,

And wildcat this is a thread about Team KY ,LOL I have only seen one kid in your pic representing the state lately and its mine ,

As for the idiotic blasts by people from x about Austin his class and him not doing anything , dream on there isn't a lightweight middleweight or Hvy weight in the history of X or Louisville who could touch what he has done or will do , picture that and picture him dominating for two more years as I gloat in the stands while I'm taki g pics of kids laying on the mat as he makes ignorant cocky gestures and I post them ,

Team Ky did very well Illinois came with two very tough teams Indiana with a couple and one very tough team , Ohio brought four or five teams , not sure why they were in such dissaray ,seems a couple coaches could have got together and made an A Team , Ky could probably take three teams if they wanted I think the kids would come out but it would be hard to have three deep competitive in this tourny , saw some big Boys from Colorodo and elsewhere ,Pa had some studs but obviously not their best , great facilities , cool cops much thanks for not giving me a ticket for driving down a one way street lol have to take care of the tourists .

Well heck Mpire you were only going one way on that one way street. 

 

Either that or they saw you were one of us Kentucky people and figured you couldn't read anyway.

 

Hey ignorance is bliss.  which is why I am always blissfull.  

I'm always hiding everyone hates me and is out to get me lol , my windows are so tinted I can't see

Nonsensical rants for weeks , ok , thought I just posted about nationals nat duals and Fargo , and the kids I saw at the tournaments particularly my own and their teammates ,

As for nonsensical , everyone who read your post about not letting refs determine matches and so as so being your friend couldn't understand your reasoning for even posting not even your own schools coaches wrestlers and parents , when you could have simply not commented at all , evidently refs can control outcomes of matches at times and your schools wrestlers have had many determine theirs this season across the river where your good friend is king lol .

All I need to know about someone is they obviously chose to side against my kid when he was obviously wronged , all because he is bandwagon jumping sycophant out for a pat on the back from the big dogs up north ,

As for the taunt about you being able to coach my kid while I have to sit in the stands I could write volumes but I will only say I have coached him more and know him better than anyone probably ever will and am far more capable of doing so than yourself . But it's easy to coach when all you have to do is set there and watch a force of nature do its thing and I haven't bragged at all lately haven't even started , some people seem to have a strange sense of what accomplishment is in the sport or how to deal with wins and losses ,

I posted more about Team Ky and the kids at Nat than anyone else because I have discovered most people are timid when it comes to posting ,I am not, and I tried to post about all the kids I saw at these tournaments and perhaps give some people the feel of how these tournys are through my own eyes or perspective I have talked to many who would not do things as I do but do appreciate the acknowledgment of their kids accomplishments and enjoy some nonsensical ramblings particularly when nothing is going on or being said on the forums ,

You as a mod let people post pics of my kid while someone who barely beat him posed arrogantly while rather than simply shake hands as my kids had done till that point , then I read where everyone blasted my other son for doing the same , just making sure everything is understood , its not over by a long shot not with you or the other haters outside or inside CC ,

As for bragging ATM becomes CC first ever three timer next yr running away and being an undefeated Soph with two nat titles and two undefeated runs at nat duals , I don't have to Brag or tell you where he needs to be ranked as I dd before his fresh yr although I was only kidding then I knew where he would end up , didn't realize he would do as well as he did and had no clue someone so close to his or their own school would take the other side of an obvious wrong done against them but its all good and will be even better in July I suspect ATM to capture an AA and if he doesn't oh well he ha two more shots and will be a double AA then I will write a book on a few sites .

Team ky looked great to me until the last dual I call it as I see it many kids collapsed and lost their momentum , Brock, Justin Lampe , Austin , seemed to be ready for more and not want it to end , Shawn fought hard but i think he got flustered and taken out of his game due more to wrestling kids not only good but obviously bigger , Trae battled hard not sure he was totally fired up at tournys end or not Miller wrestled well and is better than most know Im nit sure how many top level tournys he has done but with some strength he could be very very good , The other lightweight were beast at times vegas is very impressive and the other lightweight kid seemed a bit out of his league but fought very hard and I enjoyed talking to him he quickly asked what he did wrong and that shows his intelligence and will to improve , Turner looked good and improving knowing he was hurt says a lot still find it hard to figure out what he is thinking when he wrestles perhaps that is his style "no set style " , Mathews looked great for most of the beginnings of his matches I think his conditioning was off as he fell off as the matches went on I know he had a tough go last week but when I saw him at NHSCA he seemed to be himself but I did not see all or even a whole match he wrestle last week You cannot expect to hang with guys at that level when your nor at your best shape , the Hvy was very impressive with huge potential once again a big ky boy shows there are studs at all classes in KY. I hear some jr high kids handled their business out west , congrats to them .

As for Turner's style - I think it's because he has only been wrestling since 8th grade - he is not a lifetimer like most kids - I think it's pretty impressive what he has accomplished - Qualified for State 8th - 10th grade - placed 5th at state this year - very athletic kid - has started for Varsity football since sophmore year - very few sophs get to play let alone start

Good kid seemed to get better as the year went on and the off season tournys will help him for sure ,Think CC returns a lot with him Mathews Fausz Austin Sparh Maggard and the rest ,I think he is the sole Placer who will be a Sr next yr ,if I'm not mistaken .

I know A couple that start,  Meyers, Belk, Meiman, Woolf.  All start varsity football.  I am sure it is more.

Woolf could be a monster , heard the Connor 8 th grade kid is headed to la Salle another great wrestler from ky as well , that s(k$ .nice recruiting

Probably all backs / linebacker wrestler mentality skill what does Woolf play

Inside linebacker.

That's what I figured

Not many lightweights play my boy played when he weighed 112 , lots of excuses from both sports to avoid the other , proud of all those that do both !!!!

Miller from Scott plays both... Middle linebacker, and tight end..

Of course ATM and Miller both played pee wee for "The Colerain Cardinals"!!!  Just sayin..... LOL

Yeah ,the boys told me that , a great pee wee league and Colerain had the baddest HS team in the country for a yr or so Byrds Goodman Revels , and a bunch more I can't remember ,

Mr Simpson hahahahah

When is fargo and is there a roster for team ky

I believe it's Around July 15 - mid July - May 17 Central Reg I believe and SW reg in Atlanta ?? Not sure but some kids are going I think the team is required to do central reg as most / many were not at state , Jayce Carr , Shauwn Fausz , Austin Myers , are all I know that are planning to go for sure , Hopefully a lot more are going , a long trip for doublers or kids just doing one style ,a different world much bigger tournament than most imagine and a bit tougher as well. Still an awesome experience the regionals should give kids an indication of wether they should try for Fargo or not ..

Central Regionals are in Indianapolis this year.

Thanks for the info mpire and good luck to your son and all the rest going